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Motorcycle Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / September 2008It lives!!!!!
My K7 GSX-R 1000 I picked up at the auctions finally lives. After iks post about security systems and new Suzukis I jumped on Perth Street Bikes to see if I could find the key for it. As luck would have it the previous owner contacted me and he still had both keys. Saving me $2300 for a new ecu and lockset. : ) I was a happy camper. Today my radiator arrived from the states and I installed it. After addding coolant it fired up first push of the button and purred. So now all I need is a headlight, my plastics from Hong Kong and maybe a rear subframe and it should be on the road. Can't wait. I reckon it is about 4 weeks away. After a country ride on the Triumph this week I've decided to get rid of it and keep the gixxer. It just fits me better and the Trumpy kills my wrists after 50kms. Fraser > It just fits me better and the Trumpy kills my wrists after 50kms. LOL! Wait till u see what the GSXR does to ya wrists then! Bloke I raced with has one, he only does short shots as it f.cks his wrists, the leaning angle on them. >> It just fits me better and the Trumpy kills my wrists after 50kms. > LOL! Wait till u see what the GSXR does to ya wrists then! Bloke I > raced with has one, he only does short shots as it f.cks his wrists, > the leaning angle on them. Way better fit for my body type on the gixxer. Horses for courses and all that. The gixxer is a lot lower as well. You really perch on the Daytona. Plus I miss the mid range stonk of the Blackbird and the Suzuki should have that in spades. Fraser >My K7 GSX-R 1000 I picked up at the auctions finally lives. After iks >post about security systems and new Suzukis I jumped on Perth Street >Bikes to see if I could find the key for it. > As luck would have it the previous owner contacted me and he still had both keys. Saving me $2300 >for a new ecu and lockset. : ) Is that suzuki's quote? > I was a happy camper. Today my radiator arrived from the states and I installed it. A lot cheaper than a aussie dealer? >and maybe a rear subframe and it should be on the road. Subframe? you know Maggie then? Can't wait. I reckon it is about 4 weeks away. > After a country ride on the Triumph this week I've decided to get rid >of it and keep the gixxer. It just fits me better and the Trumpy kills >my wrists after 50kms. What Trumpy? Johno Beer? > What Trumpy? Fraser's a 675 Date-owner.  SignatureClem >> What Trumpy? >> > Fraser's a 675 Date-owner. Owning a Daytona 675 is OK, but riding one takes a committed masochist. regards, CrazyCam >>> What Trumpy? >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > regards, > CrazyCam Are you under 6' ? >>>> What Trumpy? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> CrazyCam > Are you under 6' ? Well under. I used to be 5'10" before the operation. regards, CrazyCam >>>>> What Trumpy? >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > regards, > CrazyCam I have ridden one for some distance but I have long limbs and stall much taller than you , perhaps if you use top gear and stay moving it will ease the wrists ? >>>>>> What Trumpy? >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > taller than you , perhaps if you use top gear and stay moving it will > ease the wrists ? Mate, I can't even sit on a Daytona in the showroom, which is why I have the Street Triple. I can do the curled up leg bit, since I've got the Daytona pegs fitted, but having the hands that far forward and down is way too much for me. I can understand that most folk riding them are younger, fitter and bendier than I am...... not a big ask! .....but even at that, I still reckon that doing a 1,000kms in a day would require serious amounts of masochism. I can imagine, from how the Striple goes, that the Daytona is a really nice sports bike, but it'll never, sensibly, be called a sports/tourer. :-) regards, CrazyCam >>>>>>> What Trumpy? >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > I can imagine, from how the Striple goes, that the Daytona is a really > nice sports bike, but it'll never, sensibly, be called a sports/tourer. :-) I concurr. At 5'10" as well the riding position is truly awful for me. That is the main reason I am getting rid of it. Fraser > I can understand that most folk riding them are younger, fitter and > bendier than I am...... not a big ask! .....but even at that, I still > reckon that doing a 1,000kms in a day would require serious amounts of > masochism. If your weight is on your wrists, then you're doing it wrong. SignatureToosmoky Work to ride, Ride to Work... http://users.tpg.com.au/smokey61 >> I can understand that most folk riding them are younger, fitter and >> bendier than I am...... not a big ask! .....but even at that, I still >> reckon that doing a 1,000kms in a day would require serious amounts of >> masochism. > > If your weight is on your wrists, then you're doing it wrong. Thanks mate, but I have a wife to tell me that sort of stuff. regards, CrazyCam >>> I can understand that most folk riding them are younger, fitter and >>> bendier than I am...... not a big ask! .....but even at that, I still [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > regards, > CrazyCam And they seem to have the knack to do it so well! Johno <under the thumb> Stout mate? tis Southwark <snip> > Stout mate? tis Southwark Cheers, mate. BTW I had a bottle of the Coopers "hi-octane" ale yesterday (7.5%), and it was very nice. regards, CrazyCam > >> I can understand that most folk riding them are younger, fitter and > >> bendier than I am...... not a big ask! .....but even at that, I still [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks mate, but I have a wife to tell me that sort of stuff. My lovely wife's crook back means that she's not getting much use out of her Hyosung GT650R. After looking at the website pix of the GT650R and GT650S, it seems to me that replacing the clip-ons with riser bars should be quite doable: http://www.hyosung.com.au/Products/GT650R.html http://www.hyosung.com.au/Products/GT650S-Tourer.html Swapping the screen, handlebar brackets, upper brake line, clutch & throttle cables should do the trick. Now I just have to get her to test ride a GT650S before I start spending money... BTH >> I can understand that most folk riding them are younger, fitter and >> bendier than I am...... not a big ask! .....but even at that, I still >> reckon that doing a 1,000kms in a day would require serious amounts of >> masochism. > > If your weight is on your wrists, then you're doing it wrong. Tell us how to do it right. Fraser In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:22:44 +0800 >>> I can understand that most folk riding them are younger, fitter and >>> bendier than I am...... not a big ask! .....but even at that, I still [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Tell us how to do it right. THe spine is a rope. to keep the shoulders up you have to brace the spine to make it a braced rope. If you just tense the back muscles then it might pull the shoulders back but it will pull the back ino a curve and most of the body will still be forward. So you engage the core muscles - abs and obliques and corset - to stabilise the lower back in neutral spine position so it's not overarched and the spinal erector muscles have something to pull against to keep the upper body where it's supposed to be. You then brace the hips in neutral position by using the lower abs and hip flexors and upper quads so the legs help to position and stabilise the torso. The end result is holding the upper body up the way you are supposed to rather than leaning on your hands and putting silly steering inputs in. (And the ability to hold the body straight and where you want it without putting too much weight on your hands while bracing the hips and steering straight has other uses....) Zebee >In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:22:44 +0800 >>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > >Zebee Or you just ride ridiculously fast so air pressure takes the weight off your wrists. Works for me. >>THe spine is a rope. to keep the shoulders up you have to brace the >>spine to make it a braced rope. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Or you just ride ridiculously fast so air pressure takes the weight > off your wrists. Works for me. Well.... when you have a bike, anyway..... <evil wicked grin> betty, running away PS does that really work? And does it help with the shoulder twinges, or are they just a consequence of me being old and arthritic? Wrists be fine, lower back be fine.... shoulders seem stuffed... > "Kevin Gleeson" <kevinglee...@imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message > > Or you just ride ridiculously fast so air pressure takes the weight > > off your wrists. Works for me. > PS does that really work? Yes, and on a naked bike it requires lower speeds than a faired bike JL >> "Kevin Gleeson" <kevinglee...@imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > JL In fact, on a sufficiently powerful naked bike, it is possible to achieve a complete sense of weightlessness. [1] SignatureRegards Andrew [1] Sometimes followed by a complete sense of death. > In fact, on a sufficiently powerful naked bike, it is possible to > achieve a complete sense of weightlessness. [1] Oh yeah, I remember that ... shortly followed by a complete sense of ambulancedness. -----sharks >> In fact, on a sufficiently powerful naked bike, it is possible to >> achieve a complete sense of weightlessness. [1] > > Oh yeah, I remember that ... shortly followed by a complete sense of > ambulancedness. That's only a transient state; once the morphine takes effect, the sense of weightlessness returns. >>>THe spine is a rope. to keep the shoulders up you have to brace the >>>spine to make it a braced rope. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Well.... when you have a bike, anyway..... <evil wicked grin> I'm coming to Canberra to steal an SV and turbocharge it. >betty, running away >PS does that really work? And does it help with the shoulder twinges, or are >they just a consequence of me being old and arthritic? Wrists be fine, lower >back be fine.... shoulders seem stuffed... Oh yes, it works. And it sorta goes in reverse at certain speeds that we won't talk about here. >>>>THe spine is a rope. to keep the shoulders up you have to brace the >>>>spine to make it a braced rope. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > I'm coming to Canberra to steal an SV and turbocharge it. HA! (gee, that was a snappy comeback, hey?) >>betty, running away >>PS does that really work? And does it help with the shoulder twinges, or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Oh yes, it works. And it sorta goes in reverse at certain speeds that > we won't talk about here. LOL, touche! <muttering> On Sep 22, 5:38 pm, Kevin Gleeson <kevinglee...@imagine-it.com.au> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:02:19 +1000, "bikerbetty" > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > Oh yes, it works. And it sorta goes in reverse at certain speeds that > we won't talk about here. Well given that I only recently came back from a ride day at Eastern Creek (pointed statement for any police orificers that may be viewing) - I can tell you that on a X Raptor the relevant speeds are ~130 and about 220-230 (tucked in in the latter case - much lower I would expect if you were silly enough to sit up) JL On Sep 22, 5:38 pm, Kevin Gleeson <kevinglee...@imagine-it.com.au> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:02:19 +1000, "bikerbetty" > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Oh yes, it works. And it sorta goes in reverse at certain speeds that > we won't talk about here. Well given that I only recently came back from a ride day at Eastern Creek (pointed statement for any police orificers that may be viewing) - I can tell you that on a X Raptor the relevant speeds are ~130 and about 220-230 (tucked in in the latter case - much lower I would expect if you were silly enough to sit up) JL So... at those "other speeds" which shall never be mentioned, is the wrist pain from leaning on the wrists, or desperately hanging on and hoping they're not snapped off by your own body weight as it tries to fly off the back of the bike??? betty, not ever likely to find out for herself > On Sep 22, 5:38 pm, Kevin Gleeson <kevinglee...@imagine-it.com.au> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > they're not snapped off by your own body weight as it tries to fly off the > back of the bike??? Well both and neither ! :-) Below 130 if you're not following Zebee's advice then yes you can get wrist pain (although the riding position on the X Rap isn't at all hard on the wrists anyway - well at the moment - that may change with the rearsets). Above 220, yes you're hanging on for dear life - at 250(1) even tucked down it's getting scarily strong > betty, not ever likely to > find out for herself JL 1 Which is pretty much flat stick with the stock gearing, and with the new higher ratios the straight at Eastern Creek isn't long enough to find out about any faster even assuming it's able to pull above that (it now has more rpm left but I suspect would take a lot of runway to go above it) >> On Sep 22, 5:38 pm, Kevin Gleeson <kevinglee...@imagine-it.com.au> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > now has more rpm left but I suspect would take a lot of runway to go > above it) Makes my 148 flat chat seem paltry ! :) >> Above 220, yes you're hanging on for dear life - at 250(1) even tucked >> down it's getting scarily strong >> 1 Which is pretty much flat stick with the stock gearing, and with the >> new higher ratios the straight at Eastern Creek isn't long enough to >> find out about any faster even assuming it's able to pull above that >> (it now has more rpm left but I suspect would take a lot of runway to >> go above it) > Makes my 148 flat chat seem paltry ! :) 148 flat is a bit ordinary for a modern 250. Ally's 10yr old GPX with lots of Km's on it was good for 160+ Are you scrunching yourself down(1) and knees in to get out of the wind ? It's worth at least 10K on a low HP bike ! Sometimes more. JL 1 known as "tucking in" nothing to do with putting the kids to bed >>> Above 220, yes you're hanging on for dear life - at 250(1) even >>> tucked down it's getting scarily strong [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > 1 known as "tucking in" nothing to do with putting the kids to bed My VTR was only good for about 150 flat out with me on it. Fraser On Sep 23, 11:35 am, Fraser Johnston <fra...@cjmanagement.com.au> wrote: > >>> Above 220, yes you're hanging on for dear life - at 250(1) even > >>> tucked down it's getting scarily strong [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > My VTR was only good for about 150 flat out with me on it. Time to lose weight ? JL > On Sep 23, 11:35 am, Fraser Johnston <fra...@cjmanagement.com.au> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > JL No kidding. I'm 95kg at the moment. I should be 80. I need to get back on the bike I have to pedal. Or buy a Harley and push it everywhere. Fraser >> On Sep 23, 11:35 am, Fraser Johnston <fra...@cjmanagement.com.au> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Fraser No ute? Johno >>> On Sep 23, 11:35 am, Fraser Johnston <fra...@cjmanagement.com.au> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Johno Nope. But I do have a bike trailer coming. Fraser >>> Above 220, yes you're hanging on for dear life - at 250(1) even >>> tucked down it's getting scarily strong [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > 1 known as "tucking in" nothing to do with putting the kids to bed To be honest I can't recall, *now* when I go fast I definitely tuck myself in but way back then (pre-stack) I was a bit more gung ho I guess. I presume 28.5 is "low HP" :) I'm 65Kg and about 170cm tall. >>>> Above 220, yes you're hanging on for dear life - at 250(1) even >>>> tucked down it's getting scarily strong [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> Are you scrunching yourself down(1) and knees in to get out of the >> wind ? It's worth at least 10K on a low HP bike ! Sometimes more. >> 1 known as "tucking in" nothing to do with putting the kids to bed > > To be honest I can't recall, *now* when I go fast I definitely tuck > myself in but way back then (pre-stack) I was a bit more gung ho I > guess. I presume 28.5 is "low HP" :) By modern standards yes. In the 50's that would be a good middleweight :-) > I'm 65Kg and about 170cm tall. Yes I recalled you being relatively small and light, that's why I asked whether you'd tucked in (as opposed to casting nasturiums about having gotten porky :-) Wind drag is a big issue for low HP bikes - after about 120Km/hr or so you lose a lot of your top speed to drag - hence a even a little flyscreen will make more difference on a 125 or 250 than it does for a larger bike. Put it this way, on a mid 80's 750 cruiser (ie modest HP - 50 or so HP I guess and no fairing). 10Kg and tucking in made 40Km/hr difference to the top speed - I could get 210 (flat stick with a tailwind and a long road) with my face on the tank and feet on the rear pegs. My father weighed 10Kg more and would only hunch down - he could only get 170 JL >>>>> Above 220, yes you're hanging on for dear life - at 250(1) even >>>>> tucked down it's getting scarily strong [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Wind drag is a big issue for low HP bikes - after about 120Km/hr or so > you lose a lot of your top speed to drag Try wearing a smaller frock with less frills. (I used to go drag racing but could never get enough traction in those high heels). N/ >> Yes I recalled you being relatively small and light, that's why I >> asked whether you'd tucked in (as opposed to casting nasturiums about [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Try wearing a smaller frock with less frills. ??? I'm sure there's a point to your aspersions but it's lost on me - in what particular way am I being "girly" JL >>> Yes I recalled you being relatively small and light, that's why I >>> asked whether you'd tucked in (as opposed to casting nasturiums about [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > ??? I'm sure there's a point to your aspersions but it's lost on me - in > what particular way am I being "girly" Well, you are admitting to riding "low HP bikes", and everybody knows what happens to a bloke who does that. ;-) regards, CrazyCam > >>> Yes I recalled you being relatively small and light, that's why I > >>> asked whether you'd tucked in (as opposed to casting nasturiums about [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Well, you are admitting to riding "low HP bikes", and everybody knows > what happens to a bloke who does that. ;-) <Grin> Indeed. JL > >>> Yes I recalled you being relatively small and light, that's why I > >>> asked whether you'd tucked in (as opposed to casting nasturiums about [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > regards, > CrazyCam Calling BTH, Calling BTH Spirrited defence required here! Calling BTH SteveB > > Well, you are admitting to riding "low HP bikes", and everybody knows > > what happens to a bloke who does that. ;-) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > SteveB Oh no, he's quite right. If I didn't have a wife to help me look I'd *never* be able to find my penis! BTH >>>Well, you are admitting to riding "low HP bikes", and everybody knows >>>what happens to a bloke who does that. ;-) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Oh no, he's quite right. If I didn't have a wife to help me look I'd > *never* be able to find my penis! Don't know about that, I'm sure you'd manage. It's just that it's much more fun with the domestic assistance ... Cheers Goaty Signature_--_|\ John Lamp - in beautiful downtown Highton / \ IRC:Goaty@aus.moto DoD#:1906 Ulysses#:10185 Vulcan Nomad \_.--._/ Phone: 0409 512 254 v mailto:John.Lamp@gmail.com Fax: 03 5227 2151 Hear no Evo, See no Evo, Fear no Evo >>>> Yes I recalled you being relatively small and light, that's why I >>>> asked whether you'd tucked in (as opposed to casting nasturiums >>>> about having gotten porky :-) This bit -> >>>> Wind drag is a big issue for low HP bikes - after about 120Km/hr or >>>> so you lose a lot of your top speed to drag <- >>> Try wearing a smaller frock with less frills. Got that response above, logical to me. Then again I've had about 4 hours sleep in the last 2 days so .. >> ??? I'm sure there's a point to your aspersions but it's lost on me - >> in what particular way am I being "girly" [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > regards, > CrazyCam I get the feeling the word "Drag" frequently in the sentence (as highlighted) and the references to frocks go quite well together. >>> Yes I recalled you being relatively small and light, that's why I >>> asked whether you'd tucked in (as opposed to casting nasturiums about [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > ??? I'm sure there's a point to your aspersions but it's lost on me - in > what particular way am I being "girly" Drag? Frock? Heels? Another espresso sir? On Sep 24, 9:01 am, Nigel Allen <"dna at edrs dot remove this com dot au"> wrote: > >>> Yes I recalled you being relatively small and light, that's why I > >>> asked whether you'd tucked in (as opposed to casting nasturiums about [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Drag? Frock? Heels? Far too subtle for the likes of me. You were confusing me with the witty people on this forum. I'm as subtle as a brick through a window (and usually about as pleasant :-). > Another espresso sir? Certainly, make it a doppio ristretto please JL > On Sep 24, 9:01 am, Nigel Allen <"dna at edrs dot remove this com dot > au"> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Certainly, make it a doppio ristretto please Ahhh..... A man after my own blood pressure :) N/ >>> Yes I recalled you being relatively small and light, that's why I asked >>> whether you'd tucked in (as opposed to casting nasturiums about having [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > ??? I'm sure there's a point to your aspersions but it's lost on me - in > what particular way am I being "girly" I just saw it as a transparent device to introduce the "drag" pun. I respect that sorta' behaviour! SignatureClem > To be honest I can't recall, *now* when I go fast I definitely tuck > myself in but way back then (pre-stack) I was a bit more gung ho I > guess. I presume 28.5 is "low HP" :) I'm 65Kg and about 170cm tall. You need to find some of those kilos that Fraser is trying to lose. BTH >> To be honest I can't recall, *now* when I go fast I definitely tuck >> myself in but way back then (pre-stack) I was a bit more gung ho I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > BTH He's welcome to them. : ) Fraser >>> To be honest I can't recall, *now* when I go fast I definitely tuck >>> myself in but way back then (pre-stack) I was a bit more gung ho I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Fraser Send it over, been trying to put weight on for years. There should be room in George's shed for it if you don't want to post it. In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:47:53 +1000 > 148 flat is a bit ordinary for a modern 250. Ally's 10yr old GPX with > lots of Km's on it was good for 160+ Ahh memories. Crawling behind the clocks on the Infamous MZ and burying the tacho in the red, watching the speedo needle hit the stop.... Downhill. Was probably about 140kmh. Zebee > In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:47:53 +1000 >> 148 flat is a bit ordinary for a modern 250. Ally's 10yr old GPX with [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Zebee I well remember traveling into Wellington from Lower Hutt years ago on the Rg , 4 leading shoe after market brake and a "race" port jobby with a pair of chambers and drop bars with the tacho into the red and "just" making the 100mph... well thrashed and great fun > In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:47:53 +1000 > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Was probably about 140kmh. Well it's quicker than a Bantam then ! Slow 250 2 strokes from the 50's & 60's - beats walking ! :-) Wasn't there an aftermarket expansion pipe and CV carb kit you could get that made the MZ a lot quicker ? JL (I don't care when your MZ was actually made it's still a 50's design !) Wasn't there an aftermarket expansion pipe and CV carb kit you could get that made the MZ a lot quicker ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "made the MZ a lot quicker "... does not compute. [1] Why would you own an MZ if you wanted to travel quicker? Is there a scenerio where people who have the disposable-income to buy and fit go-faster bits but are confined to riding MZs? (since the Berlin Wall came down?) SignatureClem [1] It's about the same as BMW contesting the SBK Superbikes!! > Wasn't there an aftermarket expansion pipe and CV carb kit you could > get that made the MZ a lot quicker ? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Is there a scenerio where people who have the disposable-income to buy and > fit go-faster bits but are confined to riding MZs? Err yes it's the 70s or 80's and you live on the wrong side of the Berlin wall, or you're a nutter in Oz :-) > (since the Berlin Wall came down?) Ahh see now there's the assumption - I'm talking about history lessons back in the era when Zebee owned the bike JL (although you'd still be better off with the Jap smokers of the time) In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:03:59 +1000 > Ahh see now there's the assumption - I'm talking about history lessons > back in the era when Zebee owned the bike It was an 84 but I had it in the early 90s. Excellent commuter because of the zero maintenance including enclosed chain, and it took me to Melbourne, Sydney, Lismore, Brisbane. Indeed regular trips to a contracting job at Lismore from Adelaide where what finally made me sell it - 1000km days at redline slipstreaming trucks (or not if it was wet...) were getting tiring. Zebee > Wasn't there an aftermarket expansion pipe and CV carb kit you could > get that made the MZ a lot quicker ? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > fit go-faster bits but are confined to riding MZs? > (since the Berlin Wall came down?) I first learned on a "real" MZ 250 - The Trophy (although god only knows why it was called that. It looked more like my mother's bloody hoover. I just found one: http://classic-motorcycles.com/mz_trophy.html Classic! N/ >> Wasn't there an aftermarket expansion pipe and CV carb kit you could >> get that made the MZ a lot quicker ? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I just found one: http://classic-motorcycles.com/mz_trophy.html Maybe there was a trophy for the poorest taste in motorcycle design ? > Classic! Naw that's the GPZ900 JL >> Wasn't there an aftermarket expansion pipe and CV carb kit you could >> get that made the MZ a lot quicker ? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > N/ And here I was thinking my ex wife was the ugliest thing I've seen.. I am now revising that opinion. >Wasn't there an aftermarket expansion pipe and CV carb kit you could >get that made the MZ a lot quicker ? >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >"made the MZ a lot quicker "... does not compute. [1] >Why would you own an MZ if you wanted to travel quicker? dunno, there's some strange folk out there... >Is there a scenerio where people who have the disposable-income to buy and >fit go-faster bits but are confined to riding MZs? >(since the Berlin Wall came down?) http://www.bmzrc.net/ Seems to be the pommie version of bucket racing. Bill (proud past owner of an ETZ 250) In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 23 Sep 2008 05:33:06 -0700 (PDT) > Well it's quicker than a Bantam then ! well a Bantam was at best a 175, so you'd hope so! > Slow 250 2 strokes from the 50's & 60's - beats walking ! :-) 125, 150 or 175. Still slow though. Good little commuters in heavy traffic though and the one I commuted on for a bit would do the 80kmh on Main North Road without difficulty. Rindinging frantically. > Wasn't there an aftermarket expansion pipe and CV carb kit you could > get that made the MZ a lot quicker ? THey race them in pommy land (or did a few years ago) so yes. You could get them ported and polished and a chamber and bigger carbs. And put the 300cc barrels on too. > JL > (I don't care when your MZ was actually made it's still a 50's > design !) Damn right. Piston port 2 stroke, simplest motor there is. MZs are tough little buggers designed to be maintained by the village blacksmith and to be willed to your children. A solid reliable beastie that would run at redline all day and the only maintenance needed was to give it a new sparkplug for Christmas and promise it you'd do the points. Zebee > MZs are tough little buggers designed to be maintained by the village > blacksmith and to be willed to your children. Who will look at it askance, and then put it with Granny's china figurines in a back shed for a decade until the guilt about throwing it out recedes enough to give it St Vinnies JL > > MZs are tough little buggers designed to be maintained by the village > > blacksmith and to be willed to your children. > > Who will look at it askance, and then put it with Granny's china > figurines in a back shed for a decade until the guilt about throwing > it out recedes enough to give it St Vinnies There was a glass jug in the news the other day that someone bought for 25 quid at a 'getting rid of granny's junk' sale. it was then thougth to be a 18th century French thing and was resold for 200,000. turns out the astute person who bought it knew it was from the tenth century, there may be six more like it and they are hoping to get 2 million or more at auction. Not likely for a 250MZ though. Theo > > > MZs are tough little buggers designed to be maintained by the village > > > blacksmith and to be willed to your children. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Not likely for a 250MZ though. Nor likely that the owner of an MZ is likely to be hoarding 10th C glass jugs either. More likely a collection of those jam jars that became drinking glasses once you'd emptied them. Or to put it another way the adjective "parsimonious" is more likely than "aesthete"... JL >>>> MZs are tough little buggers designed to be maintained by the village >>>> blacksmith and to be willed to your children. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > JL LOL :) >On Sep 22, 5:38 pm, Kevin Gleeson <kevinglee...@imagine-it.com.au> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] >betty, not ever likely to >find out for herself At silly speeds you tend to have to hang on like hell and it becomes quite physical. I did a run from Horsham to Adelaide in 1984 and was cruising at a pretty constant 240km/h (apart from towns) and that seemed to be OK on wrists. Faster than that and you started to have to wrestle the bike and pull yourself back onto it. > Well given that I only recently came back from a ride day at Eastern > Creek (pointed statement for any police orificers that may be viewing) I'm not sure the police could actually mount any sort of case based merely on heresay they read on usenet and no evidence. Nev.. '07 XB12X >> Well given that I only recently came back from a ride day at Eastern >> Creek (pointed statement for any police orificers that may be viewing) > > I'm not sure the police could actually mount any sort of case based > merely on heresay they read on usenet and no evidence. As a deeply cynical and mistrusting soul I'm not about to allow the opportunity to arise... JL >> Well given that I only recently came back from a ride day at Eastern >> Creek (pointed statement for any police orificers that may be viewing) > > I'm not sure the police could actually mount any sort of case based > merely on heresay they read on usenet and no evidence. Well, maybe not for speeding. regards, CrazyCam > > I'm not sure the police could actually mount any sort of case based > > merely on heresay they read on usenet and no evidence. > Well, maybe not for speeding. The Fed police can pick you up for suspicion of anything at all, and hold you for 4 days without notifying any of your family. After they release you uncharged, and you tell your wife where you've been, they can jail you. Theo Psst, I've got a dozen phone SIM cards in my desk. > > > I'm not sure the police could actually mount any sort of case based > > > merely on heresay they read on usenet and no evidence. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > release you uncharged, and you tell your wife where you've been, they > can jail you. Indeed, it's supposedly anti-terrorist, but they don't actually have to prove you have contact with or links to terrorists, they don't even need a *reasonable suspicion* (which is a specific legal test) or even any grounds at all, they just have to assert that they (the Feds) think you're a terrorist. Noice, welcome to the CCCP down under. > Psst, I've got a dozen phone SIM cards in my desk. I hope you don't have a cousin in England JL (ahh you'll be fine, you've got the right skin colour) > > Psst, I've got a dozen phone SIM cards in my desk. > > I hope you don't have a cousin in England > > JL > (ahh you'll be fine, you've got the right skin colour) Yes indeed. I was considering sending my Sims to Mick Keelty as a gift to "get them off the street and make us all safer". Mick wanted a 100 point identity check (cheque, Czech?) for SIM cards to get us all safe. He didn't seem to be aware that there are 23,000 mobile phones, complete with SIM cards, lost every week in OZ. :-) You really gotta laugh. Theo > Yes indeed. > I was considering sending my Sims to Mick Keelty as a gift to "get > them off the street and make us all safer". Mick wanted a 100 point > identity check (cheque, Czech?) for SIM cards to get us all safe. He > didn't seem to be aware that there are 23,000 mobile phones, complete > with SIM cards, lost every week in OZ. :-) Hasn't there _always_ been a 100 point identity check to register a SIM card in Australia? Nev.. '07 XB12X Nev.. is of the opinion: >> Yes indeed. >> I was considering sending my Sims to Mick Keelty as a gift to "get [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Hasn't there _always_ been a 100 point identity check to register a SIM > card in Australia? When I got a pre-paid account back around 2002, all I had to do was call up a number and give my name and whatnot -- and there was no verification or anything as far as I can tell. It always struck me as a little... thin. Obviously, if you're getting a post-paid account it's a bit different, since there's credit checks and whatnot to be done, but they just want enough info to make sure that you're at least marginally capable of paying what they're asking, it's not a 100 point check. - Matt > Nev.. is of the opinion: >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > to make sure that you're at least marginally capable of paying what they're > asking, it's not a 100 point check. Ok so my use of the term '100 point check' was taken too literally. A photo drivers licence, a credit card and/or a utility bill with your name and address on it is 'a 100 point check' in whatever terminology you wish to use. Nev.. '07 XB12X > When I got a pre-paid account back around 2002, all I had to do was call up > a number and give my name and whatnot -- and there was no verification or > anything as far as I can tell. It always struck me as a little... thin. It's still that way in Fiji. I went to the phone shop and asked for a SIM, then was somewhat startled when all they wanted was $20 and no ID. It doesn't work in my phone back here, though. BTH >> Yes indeed. >> I was considering sending my Sims to Mick Keelty as a gift to "get [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Hasn't there _always_ been a 100 point identity check to register a SIM > card in Australia? No only bank accounts and other financial products JL >>> Yes indeed. >>> I was considering sending my Sims to Mick Keelty as a gift to "get [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > No only bank accounts and other financial products That's a legal requirement for them, but it doesn't mean other industries don't require similar amounts of ID. When I got a prepaid phone back around 1999/2000 I had to produce -the equivalent of- 100 points of ID at the Telstra shop. Nev.. '07 XB12X >>>> Yes indeed. >>>> I was considering sending my Sims to Mick Keelty as a gift to "get [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Nev.. >'07 XB12X Seeing as it is you Nev, we can understand why :) Johno Beer mate? >>>> Yes indeed. >>>> I was considering sending my Sims to Mick Keelty as a gift to "get [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > When I got a prepaid phone back around 1999/2000 I had to produce -the > equivalent of- 100 points of ID at the Telstra shop. bought a vodafone sim card and $18 credit ($20 all up) from woolies last week....activated it via vodaphone voice recognition, name, address and nsw driver lic. no. supplied......up and running.....:^) > Nev.. > '07 XB12X >>>>> Yes indeed. >>>>> I was considering sending my Sims to Mick Keelty as a gift to "get [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >last week....activated it via vodaphone voice recognition, name, address > and nsw driver lic. no. supplied......up and running.....:^) I switched over to prepaid about a year ago after 20 years of contract. I've used Telstra, Optus and Vodaphone. No credit check, just your address. They don't care. If you are paying fr the calls before they use them, why would they? I even got a Telstra pre-paid while I was in credit default on the contract after I got back from Britain and was broke and couldn't pay my phone bill which had blown out to silly proportions. You give them money, they'll give you a SIM. > > Yes indeed. > > I was considering sending my Sims to Mick Keelty as a gift to "get [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Hasn't there _always_ been a 100 point identity check to register a SIM > card in Australia? If you're opening a new account with a phone service provider they will certainly want you to prove that the bill will not go to nowhere. Nothing to do with a SIM card though. They just want you to prove that you are giving them a real address and that iit is yours. I have about 25-30 mobile phones all registered to me (as the account holder). I hand them out to whom I see fit. When I want some more SIM cards I call my mobile provider and say "I've got no SIM cards", a half dozen arrive in the mail next day. When I want to activate one I email the SIM card number, and the phone number I want it attached to, to my provider and it is working in half an hour. I have a stack of old SIMs in desk. Last month one of our guys had a phone stolen from his car (Duhh!), I had a spare handset and it took all of five minutes to cancel the old SIM card, block the old handset, activate the new SIm with the old phone number and send him on his way. Did all that without getting out of my chair. Theo > Last month one of our guys had a phone stolen from his car (Duhh!), I > had a spare handset and it took all of five minutes to cancel the old > SIM card, block the old handset, activate the new SIm with the old > phone number and send him on his way. Did all that without getting out > of my chair. That's great service - can't possibly be Telstra, surely ? JL > > Last month one of our guys had a phone stolen from his car (Duhh!), I > > had a spare handset and it took all of five minutes to cancel the old [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That's great service - can't possibly be Telstra, surely ? Yup Telstra. It's not difficult to deal with Telstra and be treated reasonably. I get an assigned Telstra rep, and an assigned mobilenet rep, both of who regularly contact me, and I ahve their emails and direct phone numbers. We're on a corporate plus plan where all calls between the office and the 25 odd phones are free both ways as well as all calls between those mobiles. All you have to do is spend $2500 a month, and have more than 20 mobiles. OK, that last bit may not be for everyone. Theo ........ All you have to do is spend $2500 a month, and have more than 20 mobiles. OK, that last bit may not be for everyone. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ gNatalie must be close to qualifying! SignatureClem >>> Last month one of our guys had a phone stolen from his car (Duhh!), I >>> had a spare handset and it took all of five minutes to cancel the old [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > reasonably. ....All you have to do is spend $2500 a > month, and have more than 20 mobiles. <sigh> Well I'm pleased to hear that *someone* gets decent service out of Telstra JL <sigh> Well I'm pleased to hear that *someone* gets decent service out > of Telstra Hey; they give service. Just like when a bull "services" a cow! SignatureKnob > <sigh> Well I'm pleased to hear that *someone* gets decent service out >> of Telstra >> >Hey; they give service. Just like when a bull "services" a cow! Yup, I've been 'serviced' by Telstra... > Yup, I've been 'serviced' by Telstra... Haven't we all? <waddles away bowlegged>... SignatureToosmoky Work to ride, Ride to Work... http://users.tpg.com.au/smokey61 > >>> Last month one of our guys had a phone stolen from his car (Duhh!), I > >>> had a spare handset and it took all of five minutes to cancel the old [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > JL the company I work for are one of Telstra's largest customers with several hundred of thousands of connections with them and they treat us like total and utter sh.t... >>>>> Last month one of our guys had a phone stolen from his car (Duhh!), I >>>>> had a spare handset and it took all of five minutes to cancel the old [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > several hundred of thousands of connections with them and they treat > us like total and utter sh.t... You're not a customer. You're a competitor that they're being forced to share their infrastructure with so that you can make a profit at they're expense. You should be thankful that they treat you that well. :P Nev.. '07 XB12X >>>>>> Last month one of our guys had a phone stolen from his car (Duhh!), I >>>>>> had a spare handset and it took all of five minutes to cancel the old [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > share their infrastructure with so that you can make a profit at they're > expense. You should be thankful that they treat you that well. :P ..and they're expensive ! Nev.. '07 XB12X I mentioned the war once but I think I got away with it. > the company I work for are one of Telstra's largest customers with > several hundred of thousands of connections with them and they treat > us like total and utter sh.t... Someone at the top needs to arrange to 'forget' to pay the bill. Just one month ought to do it :-) The Australian Government offers a free mediation service that deals with Telstra on behalf of Telstra customers. They're called the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman. I use the TIO with (on?) Telstra quite regularly. GB SignatureMy friend Steve is an atheist. He has a bumper sticker that reads "Honk if you love Jesus". When someone honks, he gives them the finger. >>>> Last month one of our guys had a phone stolen from his car (Duhh!), I >>>> had a spare handset and it took all of five minutes to cancel the old [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] ><sigh> Well I'm pleased to hear that *someone* gets decent service out >of Telstra I've always got decent service out of Telstra. The complaint I have against them is that they are so much more expensive than the other carriers. So at the moment I am on Vodaphone, even though they have sh.t coverage here in Tas. I've just ordered a new phone that I notice can handle dual SIMs. I haven't investigated it, but am hoping that means I can put in a Telstra SIM as well and choose which carrier I call out on. But I'm also thinking that means I'd have to have 2 mobile numbers which I doubt I want to go to. Phone will be here in a week so I'll suss it out then. > I've always got decent service out of Telstra. The complaint I have > against them is that they are so much more expensive than the other [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > mobile numbers which I doubt I want to go to. Phone will be here in a > week so I'll suss it out then. A dual-SIM phone should be able to handle SIMs from 2 different networks simultaneously. Useful for people who need to carry an on-call work phone without the need to carry around two handsets. Nev.. '07 XB12X theo <theo@bekkers.com.au> wrote in news:2319839f-8ee3-4c59-9653- f09bacb5886d@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com: > He > didn't seem to be aware that there are 23,000 mobile phones, complete > with SIM cards, lost every week in OZ. :-) > You really gotta laugh. "I'll give you a thousand bucks, cash, for that phone of yours if you don't report it lost for a week". GB, laughable indeed. SignatureMy friend Steve is an atheist. He has a bumper sticker that reads "Honk if you love Jesus". When someone honks, he gives them the finger. theo <theo@bekkers.com.au> wrote in news:72bc29e1-54ad-4f14-aade- 21a026ded2d6@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com: > The Fed police can pick you up for suspicion of anything at all, and > hold you for 4 days without notifying any of your family. After they > release you uncharged, and you tell your wife where you've been, they > can jail you. Insert the joke about the bloke who gets arrested by american military police for inadvertantly flying his light aeroplane into Area 51. They hold him for 48 hours, interrogate the crap out of him, eventually send him on his way with strict instructions not to return and not to tell anyone where he's been. He returns within 24 hours, this time with his wife on board. "OK, you bastards explain it to her, she won't believe me!" GB SignatureMy friend Steve is an atheist. He has a bumper sticker that reads "Honk if you love Jesus". When someone honks, he gives them the finger. >>> Well given that I only recently came back from a ride day at Eastern >>> Creek (pointed statement for any police orificers that may be viewing) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Well, maybe not for speeding. Or drug use. I'm forever astounded at the ability of high profile media/sports/etc personalities in Australia (and around the world) to use "I was taking illegal drugs and I'm putting myself in rehab" as their excuse for behaviour and yet none of these people seem to ever get charged with drug possession/use. Nev.. '07 XB12X > Or drug use. I'm forever astounded at the ability of high profile > media/sports/etc personalities in Australia (and around the world) to > use "I was taking illegal drugs and I'm putting myself in rehab" as > their excuse for behaviour and yet none of these people seem to ever get > charged with drug possession/use. You referring to Malcolm Turnbull's "confession" yesterday? Theo >> Or drug use. I'm forever astounded at the ability of high profile >> media/sports/etc personalities in Australia (and around the world) to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You referring to Malcolm Turnbull's "confession" yesterday? No. Ben Cousins comes immediately to mind, but there have been others. Nev.. '07 XB12X snip some... >I'm coming to Canberra to steal an SV and turbocharge it. And still have a slow girls bike mate! Johno <hiding from Betty> Beer? Who was asking about Sv's old man? *cough* Bamfy :P > snip some... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Beer? In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:02:19 +1000 >> Or you just ride ridiculously fast so air pressure takes the weight >> off your wrists. Works for me. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > they just a consequence of me being old and arthritic? Wrists be fine, lower > back be fine.... shoulders seem stuffed... Which bit of the shoulders? I found stretching the pecs helped with shoulder difficulties as short pecs were pulling on them, and stretching the traps did too. See http://www.healthline.com/blogs/exercise_fitness/2007/03/nice-neck-stretch.html and http://www.healthline.com/blogs/exercise_fitness/2006/10/fixing-upper-back-and-n eck-pain.html the whole site has a lot of useful information about posture and it leading to pain. Has helped me a lot. The neck stretch was a major factor in dealing with shoulder problems that referred down to my elbow tendons and meant I ended up selling the hack Guzzi... Zebee - who bought the Norge instead so there's a silver (or red or black, but I like the silver) lining. Zebee > In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:02:19 +1000 >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Which bit of the shoulders? The worst bit to touch is the acromion. Lifting with palms down is particularly painful and movement is limited. Not quite so much with palms upwards. It's in both shoulders, although left one is a recent development (and has become worse than right one, which has been hurting for MONTHS) Few months back the GP shrugged and said "arthritis, probably", so I thought no more of it until the left one suddenly flared up (and HOW!) about 6 weeks ago. > I found stretching the pecs helped with shoulder difficulties as short > pecs were pulling on them, and stretching the traps did too. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Zebee Thanks for the stretches Zebee - I dragged my sorry self to a massage therapist who untied some knots and gave me those very same stretches to do. Yep, they've definitely helped wth the shoulder mobility, but so far, no help with the pain. Hoping that will come with time. If not, I'm off to have things seen to when I get back from PI. I know I kid around about being old and arthritic, but this is bloody ridiculo |
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