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GB - 26 Sep 2008 10:43 GMT
I finally got off my arse and re-regoed my ZZR250 (the one that's
been sitting in the shed for nigh on 3.5 years) last week. I've a
question about the tyres on it.

2003 model ZZR250, I think it's probably still wearing the tyres
it shipped with. The bike has just under 13,000Kms on it, and the
tyres still have plenty of meat on them.

Do I need to put new tyres on it just 'cos they're old and have
been sitting for a while, or are they likely to be OK? I'm about to
hand the bike over to a newbie to learn on.

TIA,

GB
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Boxer - 26 Sep 2008 10:48 GMT
> I finally got off my arse and re-regoed my ZZR250 (the one that's
> been sitting in the shed for nigh on 3.5 years) last week. I've a
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>
> GB

Old tyres bad.

New tyres good.

Boxer
Yeebok - 26 Sep 2008 11:04 GMT
>> I finally got off my arse and re-regoed my ZZR250 (the one that's
>> been sitting in the shed for nigh on 3.5 years) last week. I've a
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> Boxer

I think as a recent learner, any doubts about tyres would've worried me.
If you're an experienced rider and a bit unsure of them yourself I am
sure the newbie would appreciate fresh ones. :)
Fraser Johnston - 26 Sep 2008 16:01 GMT
>> I finally got off my arse and re-regoed my ZZR250 (the one that's
>> been sitting in the shed for nigh on 3.5 years) last week. I've a
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> New tyres good.

New tyres worse than bad for the first 100ks.

Fraser
Nev.. - 27 Sep 2008 04:23 GMT
>>> I finally got off my arse and re-regoed my ZZR250 (the one that's
>>> been sitting in the shed for nigh on 3.5 years) last week. I've a
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> Fraser

rubbish

Nev..
'07 XB12X
Bill_h - 27 Sep 2008 04:35 GMT
>>> New tyres good.
>>
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>Nev..
>'07 XB12X

Why, oh exalted one?

Bill
Zebee Johnstone - 27 Sep 2008 05:29 GMT
In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:35:48 +1000

>>>> New tyres good.
>>>
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> Why, oh exalted one?

Because it doesn't take 100km to bed in new tyres.  All you are doing
is getting rid of the mould release which happens quite quickly.

Zebee
Zebee Johnstone - 27 Sep 2008 05:29 GMT
In aus.motorcycles on 27 Sep 2008 04:29:20 GMT

> Because it doesn't take 100km to bed in new tyres.  All you are doing
> is getting rid of the mould release which happens quite quickly.

gah.  mold release.

It's about shaping, not fungi.

Zebee
Jeff R. - 27 Sep 2008 05:46 GMT
> In aus.motorcycles on 27 Sep 2008 04:29:20 GMT
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> Zebee

Don't fuss.
"Mould" is fine in this country.  Preferable, actually.

--
Jeff
Moike - 28 Sep 2008 13:05 GMT
> In aus.motorcycles on 27 Sep 2008 04:29:20 GMT
>> Because it doesn't take 100km to bed in new tyres.  All you are doing
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> Zebee
er... "Mould" is correct for both senses.

Moike
bill_h - 27 Sep 2008 07:40 GMT
>In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:35:48 +1000
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>Zebee

I wasn't sure if Nev was arguing with the principle (1), or the
distance. 100 ks is often quoted, but I've always thought considerably
less.

Bill

and wondering which tangent he was wandering along.
Nev.. - 27 Sep 2008 06:12 GMT
>>>> New tyres good.
>>> New tyres worse than bad for the first 100ks.
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>
> Why, oh exalted one?

Because his statement is rubbish.  Tyre manufacturers do recommend that
you should take it easy for the first 100km.  It's not because the tyres
are bad, and it has not much to do with release agent.  It's because the
bike will handle differently (better) with new tyres than it handled
with old tyres, but the rider will have slowly adjusted their riding
over the life of the tyre to suit the worn tyre.  Taking it easy for
100km gives the rider some time to adjust to the sudden improvement in
the way the bike behaves with new tyres.

Nev..
'07 XB12X
Kevin Gleeson - 27 Sep 2008 11:31 GMT
>>>>> New tyres good.
>>>> New tyres worse than bad for the first 100ks.
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>Nev..
>'07 XB12X

Have they stopped covering the things in silicone while they are
stored? That's the reason I always had for taking it easy as the tyres
were slippery at first. I usually only gave them 20km then hooked into
it anyway.
namidos - 26 Sep 2008 10:58 GMT
> 2003 model ZZR250, I think it's probably still wearing the tyres
> it shipped with. The bike has just under 13,000Kms on it, and the
> tyres still have plenty of meat on them.

the tyres have been replaced, factory ones do not last 13000 k without wear
(i had 2 zzr259)
GB - 26 Sep 2008 21:20 GMT
> the tyres have been replaced, factory ones do not last 13000 k without
> wear (i had 2 zzr259)

I bought the bike with, literally, 100Km on the clock. I rode it
around on the tyres I bought it with for 12,750Km, and then 'shedded'
it when I got the YZF. I've never put tyres on it and they still
have plenty of tread on them. Maybe you're a faster rider than I
am! :-)

GB
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atec77 - 26 Sep 2008 11:27 GMT
>  I finally got off my arse and re-regoed my ZZR250 (the one that's
> been sitting in the shed for nigh on 3.5 years) last week. I've a
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>
> GB
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Damien - 26 Sep 2008 12:34 GMT
>  I finally got off my arse and re-regoed my ZZR250 (the one that's
> been sitting in the shed for nigh on 3.5 years) last week. I've a
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>
> GB

My old CBR600 had tyres like that. They were good to look at, but about
the only thing good about riding on them was they taught me a lot about
how to handle a bike when the rear has just let go unexpectedly...unless
that sounds like you're idea of fun (and trust me, it isn't really as
fun as it sounds, especially at 80kph in the wet), then do the safe and
sensible thing and get yourself some new tyres.
Fraser Johnston - 26 Sep 2008 16:00 GMT
>  I finally got off my arse and re-regoed my ZZR250 (the one that's
> been sitting in the shed for nigh on 3.5 years) last week. I've a
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> been sitting for a while, or are they likely to be OK? I'm about to
> hand the bike over to a newbie to learn on.

Any cracking?

Fraser
GB - 26 Sep 2008 21:22 GMT
Fraser Johnston <fraser@cjmanagement.com.au> wrote in news:6k4boaF609ujU3
@mid.individual.net:
> Any cracking?

Not that I can see.

GB, look if you bastards don't hurry up and give me the answer I want,
   I'm going to insult you all, singularly and collectively, then hire
   a very expensive lawyer to tell me what you're telling me now! :-)
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Moike - 26 Sep 2008 22:59 GMT
> Fraser Johnston <fraser@cjmanagement.com.au> wrote in news:6k4boaF609ujU3
> @mid.individual.net:
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>     I'm going to insult you all, singularly and collectively, then hire
>     a very expensive lawyer to tell me what you're telling me now! :-)
oh, sorry.
<ahem>
No, the old tyres will be fine as long as they still hold pressure.

After all, a learner isn't going to be needing a very sticky tyre on
which to wobble about,

It'll help train the learner to handle dodgy surfaces.

Motorcycling is dangerous anyway, so there's no sense giving a learner a
false sense of security.

It's not *your* arse on the line.

If the tyres are looking a bit tired, a bit of a rub down with armourall
will freshen them up. (don't forget to do the seat and handgrips  as
well, otherwise it'll look odd.

Any of those hit the spot?

Moike
Yeebok - 26 Sep 2008 23:02 GMT
>> Fraser Johnston <fraser@cjmanagement.com.au> wrote in news:6k4boaF609ujU3
>> @mid.individual.net:
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>
> Moike
bahaha ! Lovely!
Knobdoodle - 27 Sep 2008 01:28 GMT
>> Fraser Johnston <fraser@cjmanagement.com.au> wrote in news:6k4boaF609ujU3
>> @mid.individual.net:
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>
> Any of those hit the spot?

Damn;  I was nodding along until your got to the Armourall!
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Boxer - 27 Sep 2008 01:46 GMT
> Damn;  I was nodding along until your got to the Armourall!

Get back to fixing that Trumpet.

Boxer
BT Humble - 29 Sep 2008 23:40 GMT
> Fraser Johnston <fra...@cjmanagement.com.au> wrote in news:6k4boaF609ujU3
> @mid.individual.net:
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>     I'm going to insult you all, singularly and collectively, then hire
>     a very expensive lawyer to tell me what you're telling me now! :-)

Pfft!  Stop being such a nancy!  My CT90 was equipped with 40-year-old
tyres when I bought it, and they're STILL in excellent condition!

(Mainly becuase they're hanging up on the shed wall, as I didn't feel
like using knobby tyres on bitumen).

BTH
George W Frost - 30 Sep 2008 05:31 GMT
GB wrote:
> Fraser Johnston <fra...@cjmanagement.com.au> wrote in news:6k4boaF609ujU3
> @mid.individual.net:
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> I'm going to insult you all, singularly and collectively, then hire
> a very expensive lawyer to tell me what you're telling me now! :-)

Pfft!  Stop being such a nancy!  My CT90 was equipped with 40-year-old
tyres when I bought it, and they're STILL in excellent condition!

(Mainly becuase they're hanging up on the shed wall, as I didn't feel
like using knobby tyres on bitumen).

BTH

Okaaaay
A 40 year old bike
40 tyear old tyres

55 year old rider??
Moike - 30 Sep 2008 05:38 GMT
> GB wrote:
>> Fraser Johnston <fra...@cjmanagement.com.au> wrote in news:6k4boaF609ujU3
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>
> 55 year old rider??

You just don't get it, do you George?

Moike
George W Frost - 30 Sep 2008 09:35 GMT
>> GB wrote:
>>> Fraser Johnston <fra...@cjmanagement.com.au> wrote in
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>
> Moike

Did it take you long to think that reply up Moike ?

Oh, I forgot, you are dislexic and mentally retarded aren't you?
Smeeegles - 30 Sep 2008 12:40 GMT
>>> GB wrote:
>>>> Fraser Johnston <fra...@cjmanagement.com.au> wrote in
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>
> Oh, I forgot, you are dislexic and mentally retarded aren't you?

You really don't get it George.....
George W Frost - 30 Sep 2008 13:48 GMT
>>>> GB wrote:
>>>>> Fraser Johnston <fra...@cjmanagement.com.au> wrote in
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>> Oh, I forgot, you are dislexic and mentally retarded aren't you?
> You really don't get it George.....

OOh, look, there is another one
BT Humble - 30 Sep 2008 23:44 GMT
> Okaaaay
> A 40 year old bike
> 40 tyear old tyres
>
> 55 year old rider??

No, a 35 year old rider.

BTH
George W Frost - 01 Oct 2008 00:09 GMT
>> Okaaaay
>> A 40 year old bike
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>
> BTH

Just a young pup on an old bike?
Johno - 01 Oct 2008 00:58 GMT
>> Okaaaay
>> A 40 year old bike
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>
>BTH

35? sheese, we all took you to be at least.... oh never mind!

Johno

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