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Motorcycle Forum / General / Harley / September 2008Torque Bulletin ?
Shirley a round of Young's Double Chocolate Stouts for everyone that's gathered here tonight, while I pick at the collective knowledge base. It appears that my compensating sprocket nut may have loosened due to general abuse of the entire drivetrain, hell the entire motorcycle if the truth were told<g>, and while perusing the manual for the torque value I found the following: "Used sprocket nut: apply two drops of red loctite to threads, hand tighten in clockwise direction. Insert primary drive locking tool on top strand of primary chain. Tighten engine compensating sprocket nut to 75 ft-lbs. Mark a straight line on the engine compensating sprocket nut, continuing the line over onto the sprocket cover. Tighten the engine compensating sprocket nut an additional 45 to 50 degrees." IIRC wasn't there a bulletin about an update to the torque process? A higher torque value, more additional degrees after torque value was attained, something? Anybody else remember something about this? Also would you go ahead and remove the nut, & re-loctite it, or just torque it down to specs, whatever that may turn out to be? Go ahead and get another Stout from Shirley, if you can get Kickstart to leave her alone long enough, while I contemplate if I want to risk death and/or serious injury by not unhooking the battery when I start working on it.  SignatureLarry 2006 FLHTC <snip> > IIRC wasn't there a bulletin about an update to the torque process? A > higher torque value, more additional degrees after torque value was > attained, something? Anybody else remember something about this? There's this one, but it doesn't apply to yours. Anything else I can not help you with? <g> Also, it's a negative on those part #s for the Deuce sliders, thanks for looking, and the offer. ++++++++++++++++ M-1170 Compensating Sprocket Torque Procedure May 27, 2005 Purpose This Bulletin documents a torque and turn-of-nut procedure for tightening the engine compensating sprocket. This procedure improves the clamp load on this assembly and replaces the present tighten-to-torque procedure. Motorcycles Affected All 2003 through 2005 Touring, Softail, and Dyna model motorcycles including CVO models with Twin-Cam engines. Production vehicles began using this procedure May, 2005. Dealer Action Update all service literature and notify service technicians. To assure this procedure is used, insert this Service Bulletin number in the TORQUE VALUES tables in Section 6.1 SPECIFICATIONS of the Service Manuals covering Touring, Softail and Dyna models for model years 2003 through 2005. >it's a negative on those part #s for the Deuce sliders, thanks for looking, >and the offer. No problem. Sorry I didn't have anything that'd help. SignatureLarry DOF# 29, SLOB# 14, BS# 249 Dickhead# 1, Rat Bastard# 1 > IIRC wasn't there a bulletin about an update to the torque process? A > higher torque value, more additional degrees after torque value was [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > while I contemplate if I want to risk death and/or serious injury by not > unhooking the battery when I start working on it. Can't help you with the service bulletin. I didn't keep up with Twinkie stuff 'cuz I didn't envision owning one until recently. But I'm kind of a picky a.shole about stuff like this and if it was me I'd much prefer to pull the nut, clean it and the shaft real thoroughly, let it dry, and use the factory recs whatever they turn out to be. It won't take you another five minutes and you'll have the peace of mind of knowing it's right. I'll absolutely cobble sh.t together by the side of the road when I need to, but if I'm at home and I'm going to pull all the stuff off that you need to in order to get that far in, I'd damn sure do all the little stuff right while I'm in there. YMM, of course, V. -- spunky hussein That'sJustHowIRoll tuna > But I'm kind of a picky a.shole about stuff like this and if it was me I'd > much prefer to pull the nut, clean it and the shaft real thoroughly, let > it dry, and use the factory recs whatever they turn out to be. It won't > take you another five minutes and you'll have the peace of mind of knowing > it's right. <Bevis voice> Hehehehe, he said pull the nut, clean it and the shaft, hehehehe.</Bevis voice> Done properly, cleaned, primed, and loctited. Thanks for the advice. Peace of mind , & in less than five minutes. What a deal. SignatureLarry DOF# 29, SLOB# 14, BS# 249 Dickhead# 1, Rat Bastard# 1 > Shirley a round of Young's Double Chocolate Stouts for everyone Why does that somehow sound synonymous with Hershey Squirts? <snippage re: Larry's nut> You can't trade it on an '09 with a loose nut? 112 >> Shirley a round of Young's Double Chocolate Stouts for everyone > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > 112 Can't trade it for an '09 anyways. It's too soon after getting the motor built for Boots to believe that it would be the right thing to do. Wish I'd married a dumb blonde, instead of a sharp one.<sfsf> SignatureLarry DOF# 29, SLOB# 14, BS# 249 Dickhead# 1, Rat Bastard# 1 >>> Shirley a round of Young's Double Chocolate Stouts for everyone >> Why does that somehow sound synonymous with Hershey Squirts? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > built for Boots to believe that it would be the right thing to do. Wish I'd > married a dumb blonde, instead of a sharp one.<sfsf> Oh, no. Trust me on this. Marrying a dumb anything (in my case redhead) is just not worth the problems it brings. Seriously. Trust me. Be glad you got a sharp one. Worth their weight in gold, they are. -- spunky hussein TradedTheDumbOneForASmartOne tuna > Oh, no. Trust me on this. Marrying a dumb anything (in my case redhead) > is just not worth the problems it brings. Seriously. Trust me. > > Be glad you got a sharp one. Worth their weight in gold, they are. I'll third that emotion and buy everyone in the thread a round or 4 of their favorite fluid. If it wasn't for hooking up with someone smarter than I, you prolly would not be putting up with this sorry Slug. Now if I was a Fundamentalist Mormon, I might be putting bids in on Boots.. (The proceeds to Eddie of course) I am sure I can find you a dumb one around here somewhere Larry. SignatureNemo BS#220 EKIII PGR "When you come to a fork in the road....Take it." Yogi Berra > I'll third that emotion and buy everyone in the thread a round or 4 > of their favorite fluid. If it wasn't for hooking up with someone [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > (The proceeds to Eddie of course) > I am sure I can find you a dumb one around here somewhere Larry. I'll pass on the dumb one. I know how lucky I am to have married *way* above my station in life. I just wish that I could get away with something, anything, just once in life. She's too damn smart for me, & can tell when I'm full of sh.t just by looking at me, and I can lie very well. Afterall, I'm the one that once convinced a crowd that there are such things as feral midgets.<g> SignatureLarry DOF# 29, SLOB# 14, BS# 249 Dickhead# 1, Rat Bastard# 1 > I'm the one that once convinced a crowd that there are such things as > feral midgets.<g> There's not? >> I'm the one that once convinced a crowd that there are such things as >> feral midgets.<g> > > There's not? I know I seen them lil' f.ckers in my garden. SignatureNemo BS#220 EKIII PGR "When you come to a fork in the road....Take it." Yogi Berra > "Nemo" <nemo@mailbug.com> wrote in message news:_WYCk.603$4K3.304@newsfe13.iad... >> I'll third that emotion and buy everyone in the thread a round or 4 >> of their favorite fluid. If it wasn't for hooking up with someone >> smarter than I, you prolly would not be putting up with this sorry Slug. >> >> Now if I was a Fundamentalist Mormon, I might be putting bids in on Boots.. >> (The proceeds to Eddie of course) >> I am sure I can find you a dumb one around here somewhere Larry. >> -- >> Nemo BS#220 EKIII PGR > > I'll pass on the dumb one. I know how lucky I am to have married *way* above my station in life. Nobody's gonna argue that point. <sfsf> SignatureJohn - same here > Shirley a round of Young's Double Chocolate Stouts for everyone that's > gathered here tonight, while I pick at the collective knowledge base. It [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > while I contemplate if I want to risk death and/or serious injury by not > unhooking the battery when I start working on it. You must remove the compensator nut and clean out all traces of the previous Locktite so the compensator nut tightens down correctly. I have a junk crank I thread the nut onto to be sure it bottoms out completlely. You must also remove all oil from the nut and shaft for the new application of Locktite to be effective. Apply two drops of red to the inside of the nut and 2 drops on the shaft threads. I have a big electric impact that runs the nut down to 150 ft lbs very nicely. Never had one come loose (done plenty this way) (very hard to get back off after this treatment). Save the Youngs for someone who can appreciate it, make mine a Rum & Coke SignatureRyder Rick < > > You must remove the compensator nut and clean out all traces of the > previous Locktite so the compensator nut tightens down correctly. I have a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Save the Youngs for someone who can appreciate it, make mine a Rum & Coke Thanks for the advice. Shirley, rum & coke over here please. SignatureLarry DOF# 29, SLOB# 14, BS# 249 Dickhead# 1, Rat Bastard# 1 "LarryInEastTn" <Eff _ Ewe@calmcast.nerd> wrote in message > Shirley a round of Young's Double Chocolate Stouts for everyone that's > gathered here tonight, while I pick at the collective knowledge base. Hmmm, excellent choice, tks for the beer. > It appears that my compensating sprocket nut may have loosened due to > general abuse of the entire drivetrain, hell the entire motorcycle if the > truth were told<g>, After watching you disappear into hi-speed turns on the Dragon, this is no surprise. You ride it like you're on a Huyabusa. H-D's were not meant for that. Have you considered a Harley-Davidson MV Agusta? > After watching you disappear into hi-speed turns on the Dragon, this is no > surprise. You ride it like you're on a Huyabusa. H-D's were not meant for > that. Have you considered a Harley-Davidson MV Agusta? If it's got two wheels, and will turn, it's meant to be ridden like that.<g> BTW, there *is* a Busa in my future somewhere along the line. SignatureLarry DOF# 29, SLOB# 14, BS# 249 Dickhead# 1, Rat Bastard# 1 "LarryInEastTn" wrote in message > "Schmoe" wrote in message >> After watching you disappear into hi-speed turns on the Dragon, this is >> no surprise. You ride it like you're on a Huyabusa. H-D's were not meant >> for that. Have you considered a Harley-Davidson MV Agusta? > If it's got two wheels, and will turn, it's meant to be ridden like > that.<g> BTW, there *is* a Busa in my future somewhere along the line. There's probably a Bus in mine. <sfsf> Thanks to all who answered with some advice. Thanks to Dennis @ our local indy shop, In The Wind, for the loan of the primary locking tool. Thanks to Kurt for helping diagnose the problem even though we were 1100 miles apart at the time. Thanks to John Ross for not helping.<g> Thanks to Frito, who sent not one, but two bulletins on the torque procedure. Hell, thanks to everyone who makes this place what it is, the greatest resource of wrenching, drinking, & lying knowledge in all of usenet. Shirley fill the glasses pronto before Schmoe realizes I've lifted his credit card. To the VB&G, and everyone in it.<clink> Thanks. SignatureLarry DOF# 29, SLOB# 14, BS# 249 Dickhead# 1, Rat Bastard# 1 > Thanks to John Ross for not helping.<g> It's what I do best. I'll even not help you keep your beer in your fridge. -- John - that just how I roll. >> Thanks to John Ross for not helping.<g> > >It's what I do best. >I'll even not help you keep your beer in your fridge. I thought that was Kickstarts job? Tom(we are officially out of gas, not a station here has fuel) >>> Thanks to John Ross for not helping.<g> >> It's what I do best. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tom(we are officially out of gas, not a station here has fuel) That is f.cked up! I have a 20 gallon strategic reserve for Hurricane season, guess I better hang on to it. Why are you out of gas there? It's gone down in price around here quite a bit. Soon we will be hijacking tankers, and fighting for fuel in an apocalyptic, bleak world. -- John - remember the Night Rider! >>>> Thanks to John Ross for not helping.<g> >>> It's what I do best. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Why are you out of gas there? It's gone down in price around here quite >a bit. prices aren't bad here, (our loved Governor said he wouldn;t allow price gouging <g>) but it took karen all of 40 miles to find a 10 gl limit to put gas in her car on the way home tonight, my buddy called me from monroe (outside Charlotte) said they were out too, he literally had no gas in his truck, and I just talked to a fellow doing some work here that said his mom called said that 5 stations were out on her 15 mile trip to work in Nashville someplace, friggen funny! well not really cause i wanted to head to the Ozarks for the weekend. Why? because the hurricane caused power outages for the pipeline pumps coming to atlanta (so we are told), and the reserve is 5 days of fuel, funny they don't have back up generators online for the southeasts pipeline feeds! >Soon we will be hijacking tankers, and fighting for fuel in an >apocalyptic, bleak world. man I'm going to need a bigger Aux tank on the bike! On Sep 24, 8:05 pm, m...@nospam.com wrote: > >> Tom(we are officially out of gas, not a station here has fuel) > > prices aren't bad here, (our loved Governor said he wouldn;t allow > price gouging <g>) but it took karen all of 40 miles to find a 10 gl > limit to put gas in her car on the way home tonight, No better up here either Tom, Edna waited in line for an hour to get gas and then they only allowed $20. Hell thats just 4 freaken gal. Road the bike home from work on fumes, guess its parked until gas becomes available. Time to drive the ol pwr stroke, we can still get diesel. Mike caspr >On Sep 24, 8:05 pm, m...@nospam.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >becomes available. >Time to drive the ol pwr stroke, we can still get diesel. its times like this I wish I had bought a diesel, I'd head out to Ar tomorrow, think I'll be passing this trip though >Mike >caspr > I have a 20 gallon strategic reserve for Hurricane season, guess I better > hang on to it. I loaded up 30 gallons worth of cans just as Ike hit figgerin' I'll use it one way or another if things don't turn to sh.t for a while. Between that and keeping the truck filled I figgered I was good for a month. > Soon we will be hijacking tankers, and fighting for fuel in an > apocalyptic, bleak world. Screw the tankers, it's a ruse. Everyone knows the juice is in the bus. Watch out for the scurvy looking dudes in hockey masks and shoulder pads though. The ones with mohawks are especially nasty. 112 aka The Gyro Captain >>> Thanks to John Ross for not helping.<g> >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Tom(we are officially out of gas, not a station here has fuel) plenty here.. in iowa... I save you a couple gallons.... Invisible68 ( oh wait your tank holds like 12 doesn't it...) >>>> Thanks to John Ross for not helping.<g> >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Invisible68 >( oh wait your tank holds like 12 doesn't it...) hehe, thats the so's bike 11.3 or .5 somethin like that |
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