I can't really afford to keep so many bikes -- but
they're hard to get rid of because I like them.
For instance, my '82 Exciter 250; single cyl thumper,
except its exhaust sound is more like a pop than a thump.
This thing is so light and easy to manage that it's my
preferred scoot for short errands. It's also real fun
to ride... but really, something's wrong with the world
if I'd rather take a 25-year-old 250 than a full dress
Harley Electra Glide.
I just spend hours getting the little Yamaha in shape
for sale, and then realized I really don't want to let
it go, despite its 80 kph cruising speed: it'll do 90
if I push it, and even a bit more under protest.
Still, common sense says I should sell it while
the selling's good; at its age something's bound
to break sooner than later, and that's why I bought
the '06 LS650 (which right now is sitting unused
in a shed by a blueberry field). Well, with its stock
muffler it sounds more like a Singer sewing machine
than a motorcycle -- what's the fun of a thumper
if it doesn't thump?
Then there's the Honda CM400T. There's no place for it in
my current bike fleet, but it's there (uninsured) anyway...
because it feels something like a Brit twin in miniature.
Furthermore, I've got a collection of dirt bikes which
I picked up last winter at off-season prices with the idea
of making a few bucks. The problem is that I bought types
I like (mostly enduros and 1 trials), and now it's a pain
to let them go. I should have bought dirt bikes I wasn't
interested in, such as motocross.
Meanwhile I got the VW trike running (but not road legal
yet, so for the time being I've just been riding it
around paths in the blueberry field). This thing is such
a blast that all my other machines are likely to become
lonely and neglected.
And as if that all wasn't enough, someone got me excited
about the new (ie, Hinckley) Bonneville. Is this ever gonna end?
Mebbe I need a 12-step group...
[me]: "I'm Sean and I'm a compulsive motorcycle hoarder."
[many voices]: "Hi Sean!"
Sean_Q_
Jeff Mayner - 27 Jun 2007 07:14 GMT
>I can't really afford to keep so many bikes -- but
> they're hard to get rid of because I like them.
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
>
> Sean_Q_
Absolutely nothing wrong with you. :-)
chateau.murray@btinternet.com - 27 Jun 2007 13:10 GMT
> I can't really afford to keep so many bikes -- but
> they're hard to get rid of because I like them.
<snip familiar tale>
> And as if that all wasn't enough, someone got me excited
> about the new (ie, Hinckley) Bonneville. Is this ever gonna end?
> Mebbe I need a 12-step group...
>
> [me]: "I'm Sean and I'm a compulsive motorcycle hoarder."
> [many voices]: "Hi Sean!"
*Waves*
"You can never have too many motorcycles"
Let's see now. The garage is full, hosuing as it does the BMW, Ducati,
400 Four, SL125 and my son's little 125. And so my 250 lives outside.
Now what do I do? Buy another 250, in large lumps, and a non-running
400 Four.
Thumper - 27 Jun 2007 19:19 GMT
>> I can't really afford to keep so many bikes -- but
>> they're hard to get rid of because I like them.
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> Now what do I do? Buy another 250, in large lumps, and a non-running
> 400 Four.
I'll take the 400 Four

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The Older Gentleman - 28 Jun 2007 19:36 GMT
> I'll take the 400 Four
Over my dead, cold body ;-)
It's this one, btw:
http://members.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=bike-push
er
Nice, huh?

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pltrgyst - 28 Jun 2007 22:21 GMT
>> I'll take the 400 Four
>
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>
>Nice, huh?
Gorgeous.
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Thumper - 27 Jun 2007 19:18 GMT
>I can't really afford to keep so many bikes -- but
> they're hard to get rid of because I like them.
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
>
> Sean_Q_
Life's a bitch, ain't it?

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Albrecht - 27 Jun 2007 19:44 GMT
>And as if that all wasn't enough, someone got me excited
>about the new (ie, Hinckley) Bonneville.
I get more excited by the America cruiser with its 270-degree crankshaft.
Most of the traditional British four-stroke cycle straight two cylinder
engines had a crank angle of 360 degrees, which means that both pistons have
to be in the same position and move in same direction all the time.
This leads to a working cycle every 360°.
The mechanical balance of this design is no better than that of a similar
displacement one-cylinder engine, because the forces of both cylinders add up.
The advantage is that the firing is regular, with one cylinder firing each
revolution of the crankshaft.
Basically, with a ~270 degree crank design twin cylinder engine when the
number one piston is at zero velocity at top dead center, piston number two
is at or near its maximum velocity.
Rod length and crankshaft stroke can vary this exact 90 degree point but that
length is insignificant compared to the more effective rotational momentum
impulse changes that are actually turning the crankshaft.
This makes the engine crankshaft impulse delivery smoother compared to a
standard 360 degree crankshaft twin where both pistons are at TDC and BDC
together, even though they are on equally spaced "rocking couple" power
strokes.
Additionally, the exhaust sound also changes from two equally spaced notes,
into two close pulses like that of an Italian Ducati motorcycle for example.
A road tester from a motorcycle magazine was under the impression that the
reason for the 270 degree crank was to give the engine a funky sound and a
pulsing power delivery like a V-twin.
He was amazed that the America engine ran so much smoother than the
Bonneville.
Sean - 28 Jun 2007 04:49 GMT
> A road tester from a motorcycle magazine was under the impression that the
> reason for the 270 degree crank was to give the engine a funky sound and a
> pulsing power delivery like a V-twin.
>
> He was amazed that the America engine ran so much smoother than the
> Bonneville.
I'll keep that in mind... however, I'd also want the bike
to have some character.
Sean_Q_
Albrecht - 28 Jun 2007 14:06 GMT
>> He was amazed that the America engine ran so much smoother than the
>> Bonneville.
>
>I'll keep that in mind... however, I'd also want the bike
>to have some character.
Character? What's in a word?
I was walking through the airport once when a Hari Krishna came prancing up
to me and said, "You are the most distinguished looking gentleman that I have
seen here all day!"
I said, "You're right, I have gotten old and wrinkled and gnarly over the
years."
He was so stunned by my character he didn't even try to offer to "give" me a
copy of his guru's book...
"Character" is simply the combination of qualities or features that
distinguishes one person, group, or thing from another.
Motorcyclists have long used the term "character" to describe the nuisances
of owning this or that gnarly motorcycle that only seems to start when *it*
wants to, or only gives you a ride when *it* is in the mood.
Some riders would even say, "That bike has so much character, it takes a
character to ride it."
As the sport of motorcycle riding has grown in popularity, the riding public
has become less tolerant of gnarly character, and even the Hells Angeles have
been known to bathe.
Sonny Barger once said that a Gold Wing was a better motorcycle, but he sold
Harleys and therefore had to ride one and put up with its character.
My friend who was the president of a local British bike owners club once told
me that Japanese motorcycles had no character, that they were "like
appliances".
But he went shopping for a Kawasaki to replace his Cagiva-Ducati that he rode
because his BSA's were too unreliable for daily transportation.
And, in closing, consumers will *always* be looking for some unique and
distinctive character in whatever appliances they buy.
This inherent characteristic of consumers guarantees that some entrepreneur
will always be ready to provide mass-produced appliances that seem to
distinguish one consumer from another and enhance their social status---at
least from their own viewpoint.
Sean - 28 Jun 2007 16:54 GMT
Thanks for your comments...
> Character? What's in a word?
Perhaps I should have said "interesting design flaws"?
Sean_Q_
Albrecht - 28 Jun 2007 17:50 GMT
>Thanks for your comments...
>
>> Character? What's in a word?
>
>Perhaps I should have said "interesting design flaws"?
Then ask the two clowns at Mythbusters or the gnarly dude at OC Choppers to
build you a "custom" motorcycle...
The Older Gentleman - 28 Jun 2007 19:36 GMT
> Additionally, the exhaust sound also changes from two equally spaced notes,
> into two close pulses like that of an Italian Ducati motorcycle for example.
Copied from that XS650 website....

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Cam Penner - 29 Jun 2007 04:09 GMT
> And as if that all wasn't enough, someone got me excited
> about the new (ie, Hinckley) Bonneville. Is this ever gonna end?
> Mebbe I need a 12-step group...
I know a guy who can hook you up with a Triumph fix...

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