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Motorcycle Forum / General / Motorcycles / October 2007Bugger.....
Having a sore shoulder is keeping me off bikes......damned annoying. I haven't been for a ride for a week, with the last one being a short ride on the KTM with every bump in the road giving me grief. I had to admit defeat and head home. But, it's better than dealing with what a mate had to in the weekend........... ........................................................ " Hi lads Was out for a wee ride on the way to Taupo race track when the unthinkable happened… The Triangular linkage that holds the suspension dogbones to the swingarm and shock sheared in half while I was doing about 120-140kph around a sweeping left hander. a.s felt like it dropped out of the bike like it dropped into a pothole. Bikes rear just slipped away and I was on my a.s sliding across the oncoming traffic and into a banking. Bike hit nose first and I stopped in the grass a meter before the banking. Lucky for me there was nothing coming at the time. Shortly after a semi and trailer rolled on by… gulp! Worst of it, looks like no insurance, cos I’m a knob and didn’t send in the forms 6 mths ago when I got the quote. Bugger! But…. At least I’m not injured, or dead! For those of you with Aprilias, this is not the first link to fail. So check yours! And anyone else with photos and vid clips from the weekend, please email to me in high res. Ta. Cheers ................................................................................ Not a good look! Oh well, he can go park the '06 wreck next to his '04 wreck (trackday bin.....again, no insurance) > ButŠ. At least I¹m not injured, or dead! I'm glad you came out of it alive. Shall I air-mail you my flame-retardant suit? Clearly your mishap was your own damn fault, by the attitudes of the flamers on this ng. }: )  SignatureTimberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml It's easy to say a war is so important your neighbor should go fight it for you. >> ButŠ. At least I¹m not injured, or dead! > > I'm glad you came out of it alive. Shall I air-mail you my > flame-retardant suit? Clearly your mishap was your own damn fault, by > the attitudes of the flamers on this ng. }: ) nah, it wasn't me, it was a mate......after looking into it a bit more, so far three '04 or later model Aprilias have had this linkage breaking happen (that the Aprilia forum guys know of).....the earlier models had 'beefier' linkages and seem to be OK (but I'm taking mine off for a crack test and maybe get some steel ones made up!?) Is it worth risking the bikes reputation over the saving of a few grams of weight?....not from where I'm sitting! Maybe they are designed to be too track oriented and can't handle the punishment the road can hand out......... >>> But. At least I¹m not injured, or dead! >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >'beefier' linkages and seem to be OK (but I'm taking mine off for a >crack test I dare not ask .... >and maybe get some steel ones made up!?) > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Maybe they are designed to be too track oriented and can't handle the >punishment the road can hand out......... SignatureClick here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ >>>> ButŠ. At least I¹m not injured, or dead! >>> I'm glad you came out of it alive. Shall I air-mail you my [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I dare not ask .... Well, I either look for a pair of buttocks on the metal surface. :) OR I take the bits to the local NDT man so he can do Dye pen. for me. Dye penetrant inspection (DPI), also called liquid penetrant inspection (LPI), is a widely applied and low-cost inspection method used to locate surface-breaking defects in all non-porous materials (metals, plastics, or ceramics). Penetrant may be applied to all non-ferrous materials, but for inspection of ferrous components magnetic-particle inspection is preferred for its subsurface detection capability. LPI is used to detect casting and forging defects, cracks, and leaks in new products, and fatigue cracks on in-service components. >> and maybe get some steel ones made up!?) >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> Maybe they are designed to be too track oriented and can't handle the >> punishment the road can hand out......... >>>>> But. At least I¹m not injured, or dead! >>>> I'm glad you came out of it alive. Shall I air-mail you my [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >casting and forging defects, cracks, and leaks in new products, and >fatigue cracks on in-service components. I knew the options, I just wasn't sure of your selection :-) SignatureClick here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ >>>>>> ButŠ. At least I¹m not injured, or dead! >>>>> I'm glad you came out of it alive. Shall I air-mail you my [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > I knew the options, I just wasn't sure of your selection :-) I can't smell anything yet......... >I take the bits to the local NDT man so he can do Dye pen. for me. > >Dye penetrant inspection (DPI), also called liquid penetrant inspection >(LPI), or FPI - fluorescent penetrant inspection, because a fluorescent light is used to see the cracks. SignatureTurby the Turbosurfer >>> ButŠ. At least I¹m not injured, or dead! >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Maybe they are designed to be too track oriented and can't handle the > punishment the road can hand out......... Can't remember what model you have. >>>> ButŠ. At least I¹m not injured, or dead! >>> I'm glad you came out of it alive. Shall I air-mail you my [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Can't remember what model you have. 2002 RSV-R.......the model with the carbon fibre, Ohlins goodies and OZ wheels. >Having a sore shoulder is keeping me off bikes......damned annoying. I >haven't been for a ride for a week, with the last one being a short ride >on the KTM with every bump in the road giving me grief. You should have titled this thread "Bagger", not "Bugger" - 'cause that's what you need. Come on. You know you want one. ;) -- Home page: http://xidos.ca >>Having a sore shoulder is keeping me off bikes......damned annoying. I >>haven't been for a ride for a week, with the last one being a short ride [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Come on. You know you want one. ;) He said 'bugger the bagger' :-) SignatureClick here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ >> Having a sore shoulder is keeping me off bikes......damned annoying. I >> haven't been for a ride for a week, with the last one being a short ride [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Come on. You know you want one. ;) I must admit that while I was browsing through the 'Bike Trader' looking for a trail bike for my older boy (they grow fast once they hit their teens!) I was stopping and checking out the Harleys. The new 1200 Sportster looks good in black, and the new 'custom' as pretty cool as well....but for a mere 15K NZ there is a guy importing late '80's 1340's......ex cop bikes and the big tourers with panniers. A lot of bike for the $.....but for another 3-4k I'm looking at the first of the 'Fat Boys', which I've always had a soft spot for. I don't know how smooth these older bikes are (vibration wise). This bloody torn rotator cuff in the shoulder is getting looked at in a week by the specialist, if he doesn't have a 'quick fix' I might as well start looking at V8 cars again! The hip replacement has been approved by ACC as well but it's no good getting that done until I can use my arm for crutches/walking stick again. Moam , moan, bloody moan.....see what happens when I don't get my motorcycling fix!! :) Maybe I have hit that age/physical level to warrant a Harley (Ural with sidecar?).....a bit sooner than I was expecting. >>> Having a sore shoulder is keeping me off bikes......damned annoying. I >>> haven't been for a ride for a week, with the last one being a short ride [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >Maybe I have hit that age/physical level to warrant a Harley (Ural with >sidecar?).....a bit sooner than I was expecting. Maybe you could get a nice RV ??? :-) Something with those nice slide-out walls, and a cute little 'dinnette for 2' table, and a microwave you can fit 2 whole cups of coffee in at one time ? :-) Yes, Brian, this could be you !!!! http://www.markandninaswedding.com/images/Honeymoon/Mark%20in%20RV.jpg Watch those twisties !!!!! SignatureClick here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ <snip> >> Maybe I have hit that age/physical level to warrant a Harley (Ural with >> sidecar?).....a bit sooner than I was expecting. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Watch those twisties !!!!! Yeah, baby, just imagine the endangerment I could cause with that! It would be a hit with the other guys.......a big saving on motels, carrying spare petrol etc..... The microwave would have to go.....Iv'e never trusted them since I found you could get 'microwave leakage detectors' many years ago. (Call me paranoid). The problem with RV's is that they cost as much as my house! ><snip> >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >would be a hit with the other guys.......a big saving on motels, >carrying spare petrol etc..... And the money you could make renting out the shag-bag ! SignatureClick here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ ><snip> >>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >you could get 'microwave leakage detectors' many years ago. (Call me >paranoid). The problem with RV's is that they cost as much as my house! You rent yourself out as the chase vehicle/rest area. Think income. If these guys can afford to bin their bikes and get new ones they can pitch in for your costs. SignatureBob Mann Sex is like air; it's not important unless you aren't getting any >I don't know how smooth these older bikes are (vibration wise). This >bloody torn rotator cuff in the shoulder is getting looked at in a week >by the specialist, if he doesn't have a 'quick fix' I might as well >start looking at V8 cars again! There IS no quick fix for a torn RC. It needs to be repaired and immobilized for at least 3 weeks followed by a fair bit of rehab. (That's for a partial tear) That's once you actually work your way to the front of the queue. If you're lucky, it won't be torn, just abraded, and they can fix it in a week. That's what I had. Well, that and arthritis. That's why I had to trade the K100RS for a Harley in the first place. SignatureBob Mann Sex is like air; it's not important unless you aren't getting any > Having a sore shoulder is keeping me off bikes......damned annoying. I > haven't been for a ride for a week, with the last one being a short > ride on the KTM with every bump in the road giving me grief. I had to > admit defeat and head home. But, it's better than dealing with what a > mate had to in the weekend........... I know all about shoulder pain. Have a doc look at it and do as much therapy as possible before even considering surgery. Not sure if you've got a bad rotator cuff or if you have shoulder impingement like I did but believe me, it'll never be the same after surgery. One thing though, after all the PT I've had, my shoulder actually feels better after a long ride. Something about the vibrations maybe? Dunno but it does. Therapy first, surgery last (if at all!). > ........................................................ > " Hi lads [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Not a good look! Oh well, he can go park the '06 wreck next to his '04 > wreck (trackday bin.....again, no insurance) >> Having a sore shoulder is keeping me off bikes......damned annoying. I >> haven't been for a ride for a week, with the last one being a short [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > rotator cuff or if you have shoulder impingement like I did but believe me, > it'll never be the same after surgery. The GP reckons it's a torn rotator cuff that should heal itself in a couple of weeks....that was a couple of months ago and it's just steadily got worse. If I keep my arm below my shoulder it's not too bad, but something as simple as reaching out for a jug of water, I get a shooting pain.....not always though.....a real confidence sapper!. The specialist will have a look at the x-rays to make sure it's not something else..... I buggered it by loading the Aprilia onto my ute after the chain had snapped......me and a mate were doing well, but it slipped off tha plank when it as almost on the tray, so I just put my shoulder into it and gave it a final shove......with a big ouch! Even with anti-inflam pain killers I haven't had a decent nights sleep since. > One thing though, after all the PT I've had, my shoulder actually feels > better after a long ride. Something about the vibrations maybe? Dunno but it > does. > > Therapy first, surgery last (if at all!). Well there goes my 'quick fix' idea then! :) I'm not too keen on doing exercises that hurt.....some say, no pain, no gain, while others say if it hurts, I could be doing more damage, with others saying acupuncture is the answer......I'm easily confused so I'll just leave it to the specialist and follow his call. >>> Having a sore shoulder is keeping me off bikes......damned annoying. I >>> haven't been for a ride for a week, with the last one being a short [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >but something as simple as reaching out for a jug of water, I get a >shooting pain.....not always though.....a real confidence sapper!. I had a related problem, and they gave me something that looked like a bra on backwards - an adjustable strap thing that locked my shoulders back, and forced all movement of the shoulders to almost cease. That, coupled with an anti-inflammatory RX, let the muscles have time to heal without getting constantly rubbed. Totally irritating to wear, but it did the trick in a few weaks. SignatureClick here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ >>>> Having a sore shoulder is keeping me off bikes......damned annoying. I >>>> haven't been for a ride for a week, with the last one being a short [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > have time to heal without getting constantly rubbed. Totally > irritating to wear, but it did the trick in a few weaks. That sounds good.....Anything has to be better than how it is. I might need two, one for the shoulder, one for the saggy man boobs! :) >>> Having a sore shoulder is keeping me off bikes......damned annoying. I >>> haven't been for a ride for a week, with the last one being a short [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >but something as simple as reaching out for a jug of water, I get a >shooting pain.....not always though.....a real confidence sapper!. Your GP's an idiot. Tendons don't heal themselves, they have to be held together and allowed to heal with no pressure on them. (The RC is tendons) The nature of a tendon is that it pulls apart. That's the way it's designed. The muscle contracts and pulls on the tendon. That's why it and the muscle roll up into a little ball if you tear the tendon right through. The more you have chroonic inflammation in the tendon, the easier it will tear. The longer you work it while it's torn, the more it will tear. >The specialist will have a look at the x-rays to make sure it's not >something else..... Can't see tendons on an X-Ray. You need an MRI. >I buggered it by loading the Aprilia onto my ute after the chain had >snapped......me and a mate were doing well, but it slipped off tha plank [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >others saying acupuncture is the answer......I'm easily confused so I'll >just leave it to the specialist and follow his call. If it's strained or abraded therapy will help but if it's torn, only surgery will help followed by therapy. If it's abraded you still need surgery to clean it up and possibly open up the acromion (the bone the tendons pass through) That takes far less time to heal and therapy isn't really needed. SignatureBob Mann Sex is like air; it's not important unless you aren't getting any > >> Having a sore shoulder is keeping me off bikes......damned annoying. I > >> haven't been for a ride for a week, with the last one being a short [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > others sayingacupunctureis the answer......I'm easily confused so I'll > just leave it to the specialist and follow his call. Try with acupuncture with two points LU 10 and one cun below ST 36 this may solve the problem in 2 minutes if theacupuncturist is a professional Khalil >Even with anti-inflam pain killers I haven't had a decent nights sleep >since. Man, you need better drugs. SignatureTurby the Turbosurfer >> Even with anti-inflam pain killers I haven't had a decent nights sleep >> since. > > Man, you need better drugs. I've spent the last 7 weeks recovering from a completely ruptured Achilles tendon. I find copious quanties of single-malt is far superior to any anti-inflammatory on the market. > The Triangular linkage that holds the suspension dogbones to the > swingarm and shock sheared in half while I was doing about 120-140kph > around a sweeping left hander. Trying to figure this out... in NZ you drive on the left hand side of the road IIRC. So if wiping out on a sweeper results in sliding on a straight course tangential to the curve of the road at that point, on a left sweeper you'd slide on a long diagonal across the road, and right through the path of oncoming traffic as the writer mentions later on (!) Sean_Q_ >> The Triangular linkage that holds the suspension dogbones to the >> swingarm and shock sheared in half while I was doing about 120-140kph [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sean_Q_ yep.....He was lucky no one was coming in the other lane! Troy The Troll has posted some pics for me over in a.m.sportsbike of the broken linkage if your'e keen for a look........... |
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