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The demise of Reeky

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Sean_Q_ - 23 Jun 2008 08:32 GMT
Well friends, it's been a great ride... but it seems Usenet is in
decline, and may soon fade away as the big ISP's discontinue service
one by one.

I hope someone sets up www.reeky.blog or something while there's
still time, so we can all meet again, some sunny day.

Sean_Q_
'99 FLH
Jack Hunt - 23 Jun 2008 10:33 GMT
>but it seems Usenet is in
>decline, and may soon fade away

www.giganews.com  You'll have to pay a few cents a day for it, or
www.supernews.com ditto.

Change your news server from news.yourISP.com to one of those and you'll never
even notice when a few short sighted ISPs drop the alt.* newsgroups.  My ISP has
never had good coverage of reeky or anything else on Usenet.  The commercial
providers are much better at it.

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Jack
Sean_Q_ - 23 Jun 2008 16:40 GMT
> Change your news server from news.yourISP.com to one of those and you'll never
> even notice when a few short sighted ISPs drop the alt.* newsgroups.  My ISP has
> never had good coverage of reeky or anything else on Usenet.  The commercial
> providers are much better at it.

True, but how many people (and in our case, riders) are going to pay for
Usenet service? Newsgroups also wither away for lack of participants,
and it seems more are leaving than joining. r.m.victory for instance
has about zero posting volume; the Tolkien groups that used to be very
lively a few years ago are almost moribund.

I know people who are fairly savvy about the WWW and yet have never even
heard of Usenet. (Some even think the Web *is* the Internet).

Usenet, and Reeky in particular may or may not disappear but could
well decline to the point where it's the sole abode of cranks, trolls
and spammers unless new people join -- and yet it's hard to attract
newcomers when (1) the service is obscure, (2) it needs special client
software and (3) costs money!

SQ
Andrew - 23 Jun 2008 17:36 GMT
>> Change your news server from news.yourISP.com to one of those and you'll
>> never
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>
> SQ

I think most of us already do.
I pay 10 euros a year for text only newsgroups.
http://news.individual.net

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St. John Smythe - 23 Jun 2008 18:46 GMT
> I think most of us already do.
> I pay 10 euros a year for text only newsgroups.
> http://news.individual.net

Me, too.  Earthlink had gotten too unreliable.
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The Older Gentleman - 23 Jun 2008 21:00 GMT
> True, but how many people (and in our case, riders) are going to pay for
> Usenet service?

For 10 bucks a year? Depends how tight they are.

> Newsgroups also wither away for lack of participants,
> and it seems more are leaving than joining. r.m.victory for instance
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I know people who are fairly savvy about the WWW and yet have never even
> heard of Usenet. (Some even think the Web *is* the Internet).

I've encountered this as well. Bizarre.

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Bruce Richmond - 24 Jun 2008 01:10 GMT
> > Change your news server from news.yourISP.com to one of those and you'll never
> > even notice when a few short sighted ISPs drop the alt.* newsgroups.  My ISP has
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> SQ

You can see from my address that I posted through Deja and I now post
through Google.  It works fine for me and it's free.  I have seen some
slams at people for posting through Google.  Granted, some of the
people using the service may be lacking, but I think the service is
fine.  What's the problem with it, anyone?

Bruce
S'mee - 24 Jun 2008 01:20 GMT
> > > Change your news server from news.yourISP.com to one of those and you'll never
> > > even notice when a few short sighted ISPs drop the alt.* newsgroups.  My ISP has
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Even OE express is a more usuable, tunable tool than Google...

<ducks runs>
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Keith
Robert Bolton - 26 Jun 2008 07:21 GMT
>> > Change your news server from news.yourISP.com to one of those and you'll never
>> > even notice when a few short sighted ISPs drop the alt.* newsgroups.  My ISP has
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>people using the service may be lacking, but I think the service is
>fine.  What's the problem with it, anyone?

If I remember correctly, Google uses Printed Quotable encoding.
Outlook Express fails to add attribute markers when replying to the PQ
encoding.  That's not necessarily Googles fault, but it is a problem.
All of those threads containing fried attributes are Google-OE
exchanges.

Robert
Ed Cregger - 27 Jun 2008 08:16 GMT
>>> > Change your news server from news.yourISP.com to one of those and
>>> > you'll never
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Robert

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Reeky is changing - not dying. Though, for some folks that liked it the way
it was, there is little difference between changing and dying.

Ed Cregger
S'mee - 28 Jun 2008 02:17 GMT
> >>> > Change your news server from news.yourISP.com to one of those and
> >>> > you'll never
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Makes you feel bad for them, know what I mean? Things chage and you
either accept it or end up bitter, lonely, drinking too much and
sitting in your cabin cleaning guns and eating MRE's every day.
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Keith
Jeff Mayner - 23 Jun 2008 20:09 GMT
>>but it seems Usenet is in
>>decline, and may soon fade away
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> --
> Jack

news.datemas.de

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The Older Gentleman - 23 Jun 2008 11:54 GMT
> Well friends, it's been a great ride... but it seems Usenet is in
> decline, and may soon fade away as the big ISP's discontinue service
> one by one.
>
> I hope someone sets up www.reeky.blog or something while there's
> still time, so we can all meet again, some sunny day.

www.news.individual.net

Costs about 12 bucks for a year. No binary ngs, but who cares?

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oasysco - 23 Jun 2008 13:16 GMT
> Well friends, it's been a great ride... but it seems Usenet is in
> decline, and may soon fade away as the big ISP's discontinue service
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Sean_Q_
> '99 FLH

Usenet and listserv were two of the original Internet services. Blogs,
wikis, etc are newer. Social networking has become the norm with
facebook, myspace, etc. Texting over phones is taking the place of IM.

I remember the days before the commerical internet of the 90's,
Google, Deja, etc when you had to use specialized search engines more
akin to FTP than Google to find usenet groups and how most of them
were academic in nature and in foreign languages.

With all the space and management requirements for usenet, it wou;dn't
surprise me to see ISP's drop it. My ISP still has usenet, but has
only carried 55,000 groups even though there are 5 or 10x that amount.
Some ISPs have agreed recently to cut out NGs related to or used for
child porn.

So it seems the trend is away from usenet not towards it.

Usenet will never go away entirely, but as fewer and fewer ISPs carry
them, usenet may fade back into what they once were: SIGs housed at
universities that you had to hunt down to find.

Greg
Precision - 23 Jun 2008 19:15 GMT
On Jun 23, 3:32 am, Sean_Q_ <nos...@no.sapm> wrote:
> Well friends, it's been a great ride... but it seems Usenet is in
> decline, and may soon fade away as the big ISP's discontinue service
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Sean_Q_
> '99 FLH

Usenet and listserv were two of the original Internet services. Blogs,
wikis, etc are newer. Social networking has become the norm with
facebook, myspace, etc. Texting over phones is taking the place of IM.

I remember the days before the commerical internet of the 90's,
Google, Deja, etc when you had to use specialized search engines more
akin to FTP than Google to find usenet groups and how most of them
were academic in nature and in foreign languages.

With all the space and management requirements for usenet, it wou;dn't
surprise me to see ISP's drop it. My ISP still has usenet, but has
only carried 55,000 groups even though there are 5 or 10x that amount.
Some ISPs have agreed recently to cut out NGs related to or used for
child porn.

So it seems the trend is away from usenet not towards it.

Usenet will never go away entirely, but as fewer and fewer ISPs carry
them, usenet may fade back into what they once were: SIGs housed at
universities that you had to hunt down to find.

Greg

yeah. yeah. we might fade back into what we once were too Greg.

Good post.

P
Lew - 23 Jun 2008 21:29 GMT
On 23 Jun 2008, oasysco wrote in
news:c906b3bb-6f50-4245-84c6-7c5d290d2a88@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.co
m

> Usenet will never go away entirely, but as fewer and fewer ISPs
> carry them, usenet may fade back into what they once were: SIGs
> housed at universities that you had to hunt down to find.
>
> Greg

As a veteran of newsgroups since 1996 (and owner of a 1995 Nighthawk
750), I wouldn't mind seeing Usenet fade back to what it was in the
90s - the glory years for Usenet and motorcycles!

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Jack Hunt - 24 Jun 2008 02:22 GMT
> I wouldn't mind seeing Usenet fade back to what it was in the
>90s - the glory years for Usenet and motorcycles!

Anybody heard from Janice Chung lately?

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Jack
S'mee - 24 Jun 2008 04:24 GMT
> > I wouldn't mind seeing Usenet fade back to what it was in the
> >90s - the glory years for Usenet and motorcycles!
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> --
> Jack

I'm too young <cough> to know her or of her.
~= Moike =~ - 24 Jun 2008 07:41 GMT
> > > I wouldn't mind seeing Usenet fade back to what it was in the
> > >90s - the glory years for Usenet and motorcycles!
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I'm too young <cough> to know her or of her.

No, but I have everything she ever wrote archived.  And lots of
Flashes' stuff as well.  And other wonderful gems from rec/ba,moto

As far as reeky goes...

This is my 18 year old 'Wilsons' police style leather jacket.  I
proudly wear my tailored jean vest over top of it carrying my club
patch,  The club I've been proud to be a member of for the last nine
years.  The club has OG roots all the way back to 1953.  Our motto?
"It's not what you ride, it's that you ride."  Chapters in Santa Cruz,
San Francisco, and SLO.

http://www.badcatracing.com/jacket1.jpg

This is what's under that vest, it's been there since the OG KoTM
Artie (rest his soul) cranked out the original run of the biggies back
around 1993.  It's the -first- Motorcycle Club I was in, and even to
this very day I'm damn proud to fly it's colors.

http://www.badcatracing.com/jacket1.jpg

Salad days are salad days for a reason, times change and you reflect
back on how good you had it back then.

-Mike- 'Hardcore'
Steve T - 23 Jun 2008 23:40 GMT
:Well friends, it's been a great ride... but it seems Usenet is in
:decline, and may soon fade away as the big ISP's discontinue service
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
:Sean_Q_
:'99 FLH

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