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Motorcycle Forum / General / Motorcycles / February 2010You thought that saftey bike was stupid
You remember that abomination? Seatbelts on motorcycles indeed...how stupid can you get? Well the EU might just top that... http://backroadsrider.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/saferider%e2%80%a6-rider-safety-t he-eu-way/ <boggle> it really is true, they keep making better idiots, that or they are trying to top the stupidity over here.(US) -- Keith I weep for the species. On Feb 8, 5:36 am, "The Last Neanderthal" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I weep for the species. Take comfort in your sheep. > You remember that abomination? Seatbelts on motorcycles indeed...how > stupid can you get? Well the EU might just top that... http://backroadsrider.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/saferider%e2%80%a6-rider- safety-the-eu-way/ > <boggle> > > it really is true, they keep making better idiots, that or they are > trying to top the stupidity over here.(US) To be honest, I applaud some of the research ideas, and I can't see anything that says it's going to become law in five years' time.  SignatureBMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com On Feb 8, 8:00 am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > > You remember that abomination? Seatbelts on motorcycles indeed...how > > stupid can you get? Well the EU might just top that... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > To be honest, I applaud some of the research ideas, and I can't see > anything that says it's going to become law in five years' time. Maybe you missed the line that stated, "...the European Commission would like SafeRider to become mandatory on all new road bikes within five or six years." > On Feb 8, 8:00 am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older > Gentleman) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > would like SafeRider to become mandatory on all new road bikes within > five or six years." I repeat: "I can't see anything that says it's going to become law in five years' time." What the EC "would like" is a long way from being the same thing. SignatureBMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com > I repeat: "I can't see anything that says it's going to become law > in five years' time." What the EC "would like" is a long way from > being the same thing. Except and unless someone foments a crisis. Signature.. Be Seeing You, .. Chuck Rhode, Sheboygan, WI, USA .. Weather: http://LacusVeris.com/WX .. 25° — Wind E 6 mph — Sky overcast. >> I repeat: "I can't see anything that says it's going to become law >> in five years' time." What the EC "would like" is a long way from >> being the same thing. > >Except and unless someone foments a crisis. It's lot like you what causes unrest. SignatureClick here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/ Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:25:33 -0500, .p.jm. wrote: >>Except and unless someone foments a crisis. > It's lot like you what causes unrest. You must be from the Ministry of Housinge. Signature.. Be Seeing You, .. Chuck Rhode, Sheboygan, WI, USA .. Weather: http://LacusVeris.com/WX .. 27° — Wind NE 21 mph — Sky overcast. Snow; freezing fog. > > I repeat: "I can't see anything that says it's going to become law > > in five years' time." What the EC "would like" is a long way from > > being the same thing. > > Except and unless someone foments a crisis. You mean like the government or some damned ambulance chasing prick? > To be honest, I applaud some of the research ideas, and I can't see > anything that says it's going to become law in five years' time. I recall a time when airbags were a luxury safety feature and only available as an expensive option. SignatureRCOS #7 IBA# 11465 http://imagesdesavions.com > > To be honest, I applaud some of the research ideas, and I can't see > > anything that says it's going to become law in five years' time. > > I recall a time when airbags were a luxury safety feature and only > available as an expensive option. Wow mister...you must be really old. "S'mee" <stevenkeith2@hotmail.com> wrote in news:b8d5b7a7-b342-40e5-9470- 43a27f07a164@k2g2000pro.googlegroups.com: >> ÿI recall a time when airbags were a luxury safety feature and only >> available as an expensive option. > > Wow mister...you must be really old. Of course not. Only pointing out that once an item is delcared "for safety" it won't be long before the gubment makes it mandatory. SignatureRCOS #7 IBA# 11465 http://imagesdesavions.com > "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:b8d5b7a7-b342-40e5-9470- > 43a27f07a...@k2g2000pro.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Of course not. Only pointing out that once an item is delcared "for > safety" it won't be long before the gubment makes it mandatory. well that was said of condoms and they haven't made those mandatory...yet. Likely they haven't tried that one yet is enforcement. > > To be honest, I applaud some of the research ideas, and I can't see > > anything that says it's going to become law in five years' time. > > I recall a time when airbags were a luxury safety feature and only > available as an expensive option. You have a point. I mean, ABS is mandatory on cars now in Europe (the same in the US, I assume?). OTOH, who remembers the attempts to make leg protectors mandatory on EU bikes? SignatureBMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com On Feb 10, 12:09 am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > > > To be honest, I applaud some of the research ideas, and I can't see > > > anything that says it's going to become law in five years' time. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You have a point. I mean, ABS is mandatory on cars now in Europe (the > same in the US, I assume?). Yes, though WHY is beyond me... > OTOH, who remembers the attempts to make leg protectors mandatory on EU > bikes? heh, no. But at least you didn't have some damned fool in governemtn suggest seatbelts on motorcycles. THAT is a good stardard to go by...if they think of things like that they are an idiot. > You have a point. I mean, ABS is mandatory on cars now in Europe (the > same in the US, I assume?). Donno. Haven't paid enough attention to all that to know. Still have to wonder how much longer before an OnStar-like system becomes mandatory. SignatureRCOS #7 IBA# 11465 http://imagesdesavions.com > > You have a point. I mean, ABS is mandatory on cars now in Europe (the > > same in the US, I assume?). > > Donno. Haven't paid enough attention to all that to know. Still have to > wonder how much longer before an OnStar-like system becomes mandatory. Allowing for the post 1999 vehicles...every vehicle I own can rebuilt from the ground up. For that matter I can put a all new motor in the pickup (I keep it for when I find a broken harley on the road). <GR&R> it's a treefity wit' a turbohydromatic 400. I have access to a mo' betta' trans that's rebuilt. sheit metal? Heck I can buy all new everything...that truck could out last the sphinx. On star? ON STAR!?! WTF do I need that sh.t for? "S'mee" <stevenkeith2@hotmail.com> wrote in news:131bad1a-68f8-41aa-9676- e98a22f27702@t34g2000prm.googlegroups.com: > everything...that truck could out last the sphinx. On star? ON STAR!?! > WTF do I need that sh.t for? Because, soon enough, it will be illegal to go anywhere without it... SignatureRCOS #7 IBA# 11465 http://imagesdesavions.com > "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:131bad1a-68f8-41aa-9676- > e98a22f27...@t34g2000prm.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Because, soon enough, it will be illegal to go anywhere without it... Then I wont give damn..MAKE me. Go ahead and try, I've been dodging unenforcable and illegal laws for decades and I refuse to change my ways. From bootlegging to the comstock laws it's been a family traditon. Anyway if it isn't OEM they can't force it on you. That's called precident...I've vehicle right now that they can't force me to change. Adding a nanny from GM isn't going to happen and I'll bury the first bastard that tries...for that matter if I want a new car and it has onstar, then I'll go to another dealer OR I'll disable it...with cutting torch in necessary and if the government doesn't like it they can watch the steel circle and wait for the camera flash. Or in simple terms "over their dead bodies I'll have onstar or anything like it in/on ANY vehicle I own" >You remember that abomination? Seatbelts on motorcycles indeed...how >stupid can you get? Well the EU might just top that... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >it really is true, they keep making better idiots, that or they are >trying to top the stupidity over here.(US) "A SafeRider prototype system which will include satellite navigation, speed limit mapping and warning, curve speed warning and collision detection is to be fitted to nine " The follow-up step to that is an auto-govern / auto-speed-limiter throttle over-ride to make SURE you don't speed, and to auto-generate a speeding ticket if you try, ala 'red light cameras'. Perhaps auto-reporting to your insurance company , to put them on alert to raise your rates by 500 %. SignatureClick here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/ Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm > "A SafeRider prototype system which will include satellite navigation, > speed limit mapping and warning, curve speed warning and collision > detection is to be fitted to nine " Satnav is commonplace. Speed limit mapping is already being installed in cars. So is collison detection. 'Curve speed warning' as a new one on me. But all of these strike me as being particularly useful safety aids. SignatureBMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com >> "A SafeRider prototype system which will include satellite >> navigation, speed limit mapping and warning, curve speed warning and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > But all of these strike me as being particularly useful safety aids. They'd be kind of pointless in the US--many states don't allow headsets or helmet speakers and I can't see where having the thing shout out its warnings loud enough to be heard over traffic would be particularly beneficial--all I need when I'm in the middle of dodging a truck is some loud alarm going off. > They'd be kind of pointless in the US--many states don't allow headsets or > helmet speakers Really? I didn't know that. So bike-to-bike intercoms are illegal in these states? I neither use nor particularly like the things, but that strikes me as daft. SignatureBMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com >> They'd be kind of pointless in the US--many states don't allow >> headsets or helmet speakers > > Really? I didn't know that. So bike-to-bike intercoms are illegal in > these states? Yep. Some allow one speaker but not two. Oddly they all seem to allow earplugs. Yet another example of the US attempting to enforce puritanical values--can't have those nasty bikers listening to music, oh, no. > I neither use nor particularly like the things, but that strikes me as > daft. Many of our laws are daft. I believe the same is true of many of our legislators. > >> They'd be kind of pointless in the US--many states don't allow > >> headsets or helmet speakers [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Many of our laws are daft. I believe the same is true of many of our > legislators. Yep they wont even let cage drivers wear helmets even though it has been proven wearing helmets save lives of cagers not just motorcycles. We wont even get into why they seem to think their is a problem with a proper 6 point restraint system for all passengers...it's for the children! > Many of our laws are daft. I believe the same is true of many of our > legislators. Ain't it just the same the world over :-/ SignatureBMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com On Feb 9, 12:16 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > > Many of our laws are daft. I believe the same is true of many of our > > legislators. > > Ain't it just the same the world over :-/ I think some of them get elected just to keep them off the streets...pity, it fails miserably. On Feb 8, 12:46 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > > "A SafeRider prototype system which will include satellite navigation, > > speed limit mapping and warning, curve speed warning and collision [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > But all of these strike me as being particularly useful safety aids. Yes, but then again you are a goooood sheep aren't you? 8^) It's all bad ideas frankly. > On Feb 8, 12:46 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older > Gentleman) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Yes, but then again you are a goooood sheep aren't you? 8^) It's all > bad ideas frankly. Even satnav and speed trap (speed limit) warnings? Nah. SignatureBMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com On Feb 9, 12:13 am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > > On Feb 8, 12:46 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older > > Gentleman) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Even satnav and speed trap (speed limit) warnings? Nah. The ones here are all mobile and last I checked the gatso's have been tried...and failed. Public ire killed them. > On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 05:36:21 -0800 (PST), "S'mee" > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Perhaps auto-reporting to your insurance company , to put them on > alert to raise your rates by 500 %. That was already tried and FAILED so dangerously they never tested it on an actual road. |
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