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RealMart - 25 Oct 2008 17:49 GMT
Watched the BBC coverage of qualifying from Valencia this afternoon.

While their bloke in the paddock was interviewing either Stoner or
Hayden at the end of qualifying, you could see Dani Pedrosa in the
background, chatting to the Spanish tv chap.

He had a big smile on his face and the two were obviously sharing some
sort of joke. Not at all the image of Pedrosa that we're fed by the
English-speaking media.

I wonder if Pedrosa just comes across as humourless because he is so
wary of journalists who describe him as, well, humourless? It could
quickly become a self-fulfilling prophecy; interviewed in a foreign
language by a journalist you don't trust, it would be hard to be
forthcoming and effusive.

I know that Daijiro Kato was always made out to be quiet and reserved
by the western media, but I saw  him clowning about on stage during
the "Suzuka Eve" festival celebrations before the eight hour, chatting
animatedly to the crowd while wearing comedy shades, etc. He was
obviously a very different character to his home fans than the the
Kato that was presented via the international press.
DaveW - 27 Oct 2008 04:35 GMT
>Watched the BBC coverage of qualifying from Valencia this afternoon.
>
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>language by a journalist you don't trust, it would be hard to be
>forthcoming and effusive.

So, you think Dani is the happy-go-lucky type, and his image is some
kind of media conspiracy? I don't buy it. I've seen enough interviews,
and he comes across as someone who just can't seem to appreciate or
enjoy the success he's had so far. The kid's got talent, but that
doesn't make him likeable.

He's no Rossi.
Carl Sundquist - 27 Oct 2008 04:58 GMT
>>Watched the BBC coverage of qualifying from Valencia this afternoon.
>>
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>
> He's no Rossi.

It seems like somebody tuned into the Spanish side of things would have a
true sense about it. Have Noyes or Mamola made a comment either way?
T3 - 27 Oct 2008 15:19 GMT
>> He's no Rossi.

Who is?

> It seems like somebody tuned into the Spanish side of things would have
> a true sense about it. Have Noyes or Mamola made a comment either way?

I don't know for sure, but I get the feeling Dani would act a "little"
more human if Puig wasn't always in the picture. Is it me, or does that
guy come off like the Emperor and Dani a young Sith apprentice?
Beav - 27 Oct 2008 16:36 GMT
>>> He's no Rossi.
>
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> more human if Puig wasn't always in the picture. Is it me, or does that
> guy come off like the Emperor and Dani a young Sith apprentice?

You're not the only one.

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Mark N - 28 Oct 2008 05:22 GMT
> "T3" wrote
>> "Carl Sundquist" said:
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>
> You're not the only one.

Pooch is all business, and I'm sure that's how he lays it down to Dani,
everything not focused on winning is distraction. And what personality
'Bert's got is bad, all bad, so maybe Dani figures none at all is better
than that. And maybe he just doesn't feel all that comfortable doing the
PR thing, especially during a race weekend.

The one brief exchange I had with him was at Laguna last year, before a
practice session on Friday, he was sort of sneaking into the garages
around the back way and I happened to be standing back there. I said
something supportive and he seemed kind of surprised, expecting all
Americans to sh.t on him about the Estoril thing, so he glanced at me,
mumbled thank you and shuffled by, looking at the ground. Looked like a
kid after a spanking or something.
Greg Campbell - 28 Oct 2008 08:13 GMT
> The one brief exchange I had with him was at Laguna last year, before a
> practice session on Friday, he was sort of sneaking into the garages
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> mumbled thank you and shuffled by, looking at the ground. Looked like a
> kid after a spanking or something.

Miserable, unhappy people seldom excel at anything.  The mindset you
describe is really rather dysfunctional.  Until he ditches Puig, and
grows a little, he'll never have the emotional grounding to win the
championship.  IMO, natch!
Champ - 28 Oct 2008 10:03 GMT
>>>> It seems like somebody tuned into the Spanish side of things would have a
>>>> true sense about it. Have Noyes or Mamola made a comment either way?
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>than that. And maybe he just doesn't feel all that comfortable doing the
>PR thing, especially during a race weekend.

It might be worth having a little perspective here.  Plenty of riders
have hated the whole PR thing, and have been considered a little
spikey - Lawson is the first example that comes to mind.
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Beav - 08 Nov 2008 22:18 GMT
>>> "Carl Sundquist" said:
>>>
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> than that. And maybe he just doesn't feel all that comfortable doing the
> PR thing, especially during a race weekend.

But it's all part of being in MotoGp. If Pedrosa wasn't interested in doing
the part of the job that keeps the sponsors happy, he should either have
thought about that before beginning his career or be thinking about it now.
Plainly, he hasn't done.

> The one brief exchange I had with him was at Laguna last year, before a
> practice session on Friday, he was sort of sneaking into the garages
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> mumbled thank you and shuffled by, looking at the ground. Looked like a
> kid after a spanking or something.

You must be a real ugly muthafucker :)

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Mark N - 09 Nov 2008 00:47 GMT
> "Mark N" wrote
>> Pooch is all business, and I'm sure that's how he lays it down to Dani,
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> thought about that before beginning his career or be thinking about it now.
> Plainly, he hasn't done.

I hardly think we need be concerned about Pedrosa's relationship with
his team's sponsors. Let's recall that there was a battle over his
services between Repsol and Telefonica when he moved into MotoGP and
Telefonica quite the series when they lost out. And I see no sign of
disenchantment on the part of Repsol so far. Being Spanish is 90% of the
battle, of course, and he's done nothing to embarrass anyone beyond
that. Well, except for that Estoril business, I suppose.

Now, Puig, he's another matter entirely...

>> The one brief exchange I had with him was at Laguna last year, before a
>> practice session on Friday, he was sort of sneaking into the garages
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> You must be a real ugly muthafucker :)

Eh, I look a bit like an older Nicky Hayden, I suppose. Except bigger.
And less friendly...
Beav - 10 Nov 2008 11:28 GMT
>>> Pooch is all business, and I'm sure that's how he lays it down to Dani,
>>> everything not focused on winning is distraction. And what personality
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>
> Now, Puig, he's another matter entirely...

There's nothing I can say about him that's not already been said.

>>> The one brief exchange I had with him was at Laguna last year, before a
>>> practice session on Friday, he was sort of sneaking into the garages
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Eh, I look a bit like an older Nicky Hayden, I suppose. Except bigger. And
> less friendly...

The Kentucky Grand-dad? :-)

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Mark N - 10 Nov 2008 12:48 GMT
> "Mark N" wrote

>> Now, Puig, he's another matter entirely...
>
> There's nothing I can say about him that's not already been said.

And yet somehow one assumes that one day he'll again set for himself a
new and unexpected low...

>> Eh, I look a bit like an older Nicky Hayden, I suppose. Except bigger. And
>> less friendly...
>
> The Kentucky Grand-dad? :-)

Well, Nick is related to Basil Hayden, as I understand it. And I've
always been a very big fan of Old Grand-Dads...
Beav - 15 Nov 2008 23:17 GMT
>>> Now, Puig, he's another matter entirely...
>>
>> There's nothing I can say about him that's not already been said.
>
> And yet somehow one assumes that one day he'll again set for himself a new
> and unexpected low...

That goes without saying.

>>> Eh, I look a bit like an older Nicky Hayden, I suppose. Except bigger.
>>> And less friendly...
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> Well, Nick is related to Basil Hayden, as I understand it. And I've always
> been a very big fan of Old Grand-Dads...

I'm an old grand dad. Apparently :-)

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Switters - 28 Oct 2008 15:42 GMT
> It seems like somebody tuned into the Spanish side of things would
> have a true sense about it. Have Noyes or Mamola made a comment either
> way?

Yes, a few weeks ago, Mamola was talking about doing events and being with
Pedrosa away from the track, and perhaps more importantly away from Puig.  
He said that Pedrosa was having a great laugh and was a really nice guy -
specifically saying that he's completely different to his track-side
persona.

Similar with Stoner I guess.  Many of the UK riders say what a great guy
he is, but he behaves very differently when he's at work.

Much like many people I work with too.
 
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