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Motorcycle Forum / General / Sportbikes / October 2004Power Commander Question
I installed a PCIII USB a couple months ago and I finally have the time to play around with some different maps. Only problem is I don't own a lap top. To move the unit to my PC, I would have to completely uninstall it. That involves removing the entire tail, gas tank and throttle bodies. Way to much work !!! Seeing as I may have to do it dozens of times until I'm happy with the map. Why isn't there a quick disconnect between the PCIII harness and the unit it's self ? Has anybody tried installing some kind of plug in between ? There must be a good reason it didn't come with one ... But I can't think of what that might be. Any info would be much appreciated ! Graham 03' ZX6R >> I installed a PCIII USB a couple months ago and I finally have the >> time to play around with some different maps. Only problem is I [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> Graham >> 03' ZX6R not being familiar with the unit this may be totally off base, but it's my understanding you use the laptop to transfer the power maps to the unit....if so could you use a jumpdrive ?...a 512M flash drive is only $40 or so, and should hold more than one map....It's a USB device so the should mate right up if the PCIII is connected with a USB cable. > I installed a PCIII USB a couple months ago and I finally have > the time to play around with some different maps. Only problem [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Seeing as I may have to do it dozens of times until I'm happy > with the map. One solution that works, if you donn't have the USB version, is to pick up a cheap Palm Pilot on ebay; they go for under $30 many times. With the normal PCIII (serial connection), you can load maps into the Palm device from the PC then take it out to the garage to load the map into the PCIII at the bike. Even though I have a laptop, I go the Palm route, as I can just carry it in the tank bag and load maps on the road, if need be. -Keith '03 Blackbird How do you connect the Palm to the PCIII? What cabling scheme do you have in place? Damn good idea. > > I installed a PCIII USB a couple months ago and I finally have > > the time to play around with some different maps. Only problem [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > -Keith > '03 Blackbird > How do you connect the Palm to the PCIII? What cabling scheme > do you have in place? > Damn good idea. Power Commander sells a serial adapter for use between the standard Palm HotSync cable and the PCIII. That and the Palm software available from Power Commander, are all it takes. DO NOT connect the HotSync cable directly to the PCIII without the adapter; doing so will destroy the Palm and maybe the PCIII (according to the Power Commander web page). -Keith '03 Blackbird That's awesome. I didn't know you could do this. But, I thought it was your own hack. You can still have the props though. > > How do you connect the Palm to the PCIII? What cabling scheme > > do you have in place? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -Keith > '03 Blackbird Can you alter the maps using the Palm, for example, if at the track and an adjustment is needed? > That's awesome. I didn't know you could do this. But, I thought it was > your own hack. You can still have the props though. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -Keith > > '03 Blackbird > Can you alter the maps using the Palm, for example, if at the > track and an adjustment is needed? No, the app in the Palm can't do anything besides download the tune. You could set up a number of maps with minor modifications and put them in the Palm (at least as many as the Palm memory will hold) for later download at the track. Not a perfect solution, but mabye better than lugging a PC to the track. -Keith '03 Blackbird btw: the adapter is just a null modem connector. >That's awesome. I didn't know you could do this. But, I thought it was >your own hack. You can still have the props though. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> -Keith >> '03 Blackbird --- Remove x's to send. > btw: > the adapter is just a null modem connector. Are you positive about that; I believe it is more than that. Power is present on the connector at the PCIII; the Power Commander adapter cuts that line so that power is not sent up the cable to the Palm Pilot. The Power Commander adapter is dirt cheap; I'd buy it and not risk the equipment. -Keith '03 Blackbird How about someone destroy a $8.00 PowerCommander adapter so that the rest of us can "reverse engineer" build one. > > btw: > > the adapter is just a null modem connector. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -Keith > '03 Blackbird well; I'm looking at it -- it looks exactly like a NULL MODEM adapter I had already purchased for my laptop... (different application) In fact, I'm not sure which is which at this point.... it's not stamped with "palm" or "powercommander" - just "null modem" I can't tell the difference.. They both have 9 pins (well; less 2 on each side, so 7 actual pins, but a db9 connector) and are male on both ends.... you can get a null modem adapater cheaper than you can from dynojet.. maybe someone that needs one should call them and ask if it's a null modem or something special... I'd bet it's nothing special. >> btw: >> the adapter is just a null modem connector. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >-Keith >'03 Blackbird --- Remove x's to send. >well; I'm looking at it -- it looks exactly like a NULL MODEM adapter I had >already purchased for my laptop... (different application) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >someone that needs one should call them and ask if it's a null modem or >something special... I'd bet it's nothing special. Pin the thing out with a VOM and see what connects to what.. |
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