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Motorcycle Forum / General / Sportbikes / April 2005After watching the races today....
I wanna go out and buy a bigger suzuki! > I wanna go out and buy a bigger suzuki! The liter version is actually quite tiny this year actually. The bike that actually fits me like a glove (at least in the showroom) is the 636. Makes the R1 feel like a Goldwing. Maybe you can catch a race and have him give you some tips while he's signing your poster. >> I wanna go out and buy a bigger suzuki! > > The liter version is actually quite tiny this year actually. The bike that > actually fits me like a glove (at least in the showroom) is the 636. Makes > the R1 feel like a Goldwing. I like sportbikes. I have to admit it. But while my 750 isn't "modern" any more, its still a better machine than I am a rider, and fast enough to keep fast bikes in range for what passes for racetracks here in Colorado anyway. > Maybe you can catch a race and have him give you some tips while he's > signing your poster. Who? Mladin? I cheer for the local boys more...particularly Yates. >>>I wanna go out and buy a bigger suzuki! >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Who? Mladin? He'd be the one dusting everybody Rossi style...even those on superior Italian equipment. > I cheer for the local boys more...particularly Yates. I'm a fan of his high kicking style. >>>Maybe you can catch a race and have him give you some tips while he's >>>signing your poster. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > He'd be the one dusting everybody Rossi style...even those on superior > Italian equipment. Yeah but today it wasn't like he was the only one. Suzuki's swept the superbike at Barber yesterday, finished 1-3 today, and captured world superbike as well. Dem zook's are going pretty good...and I like the new 1000 except for the silly looking pipe which is easily fixed. >> I cheer for the local boys more...particularly Yates. > > I'm a fan of his high kicking style. Yeah...I was hoping he would find some backmarker to drop kick myself. > Yeah but today it wasn't like he was the only one. Suzuki's > swept the superbike at Barber yesterday, finished 1-3 today, > and captured world superbike as well. Is Doo-catty's WSB dominance over? I wish I was a champion---I'd choose Suzuki! What about Max Neukirchner getting launched straight up into the air in Round 1? I never saw anybody fly like that! And they said it was because he was pushing on cold tires, his wahoo! turned into an endo... And it sounded like everybody is limited to just running Pirelli tires in WSB, all they could do was chose A, B, C, or dual tread compound. The A compound might overheat and get slippery, so some were using B compounds hoping they would heat up quick enough to catch the fast guys on soft tires? Wazzup with that one brand that isn't exactly a "spec tire"? Is that some kind of graft to support the Pirelli family and keep tire prices for private citizens high because the factory's main output is making race tires for that one series? Enquiring minds want to know... > Wazzup with that one brand that isn't exactly a "spec tire"? Is that > some kind of graft to support the Pirelli family and keep tire prices > for private citizens high because the factory's main output is making > race tires for that one series? > > Enquiring minds want to know... Spec series suck....ANY spec series suck...but you can argue that its cheaper for the regular guy I suppose....not that its true...but at least we could ARGUE about it. > >>>I wanna go out and buy a bigger suzuki! > >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I'm a fan of his high kicking style. Sheesh, I was telling my girlfriend, that they need a Rossi to stop Malidin. Also, Rossi would need to be on a K5 too, or he will fall by the wayside. The new K5 is way out there ahead of the bikes.. Dam, I want one. Yeah, I know, I can't even get close to the potential of my bikes, and one expert told me a new K5 will make me slower, but I still want one.. :) :) ceh 2001 GSX R1000 2003 RC51 (64 & fast) > Sheesh, I was telling my girlfriend, that they need a Rossi to stop Malidin. > Also, Rossi would need to be on a K5 too, or he will fall by the wayside. He's used to winning on equipment that's commonly believed to be inferior. > The new K5 is way out there ahead of the bikes.. When piloted by the likes of Mat Mladin, Aaron Yates and Ben Spies, yup. Still, you're probably right that the new GSXR is the best of the bunch on these AMA and WSB tracks right now. > Dam, I want one. Yeah, I know, I can't even get close to the potential of my > bikes, and one expert told me a new K5 will make me slower, but I still want > one.. :) :) I don't blame you. They're tempting. :)  SignatureJamin Kortegard popular sportbike / popular car "Hokey 600s and trackday usability are no match for a good literbike at your side, kid." - Michael >> I wanna go out and buy a bigger suzuki! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Maybe you can catch a race and have him give you some tips while he's > signing your poster. I will second the vote on the 636. Moved from the RC51 to a 03 636 late last year and it was a huge improvement for me. Lap times came down consistantly in the two dates I got out before the season was over here in Michigan (mid-October). I con't think of any reason to take the 51 back out on the track after riding the 636. John 03 ZX6R 636 (track only) 02 VFR 00 RC51 > I wanna go out and buy a bigger suzuki! During one of the heat races, there was a guy who almost bit it coming out of a turn. (Forgive the vagueness of this as I only caught part of the race and didn't know who it was or in what turn. I only know he was riding a white/red/black bike.) Anyway, he was coming on the gas when he crossed what looked like a black, tar line in the track, which caused the rear to spin then catch, almost throwing him off. The announcer stated that "oh, the back tire lost traction cause they make so much power" or some bull like that. I'm sitting in my living room talking to the TV, "He lost traction cause he hit hot tar!" BTW, this same thing happened to another rider on a Yamaha in the next race. In fact, in the same corner if I recall. My question, why do track operators use tar to fix the cracks in the pavement? While it's no biggie for cars, it can be hell for a bike. Isn't there something else that can be used to seal blacktop without being like ice? SignatureTroy D. Hilton 2003 SV1000S > My question, why do track operators use tar to fix the cracks in the > pavement? While it's no biggie for cars, it can be hell for a bike. Isn't > there something else that can be used to seal blacktop without being like > ice? The tar you are referring to, if Barber it was, isn't really tar. I rode all over that "tar" looking stuff last September at Barber and I think its just a pavement seam, which you can REALLY see on TV, its not really a rubber tar snake like say populates Mid-Ohio. But it isn't hard to spin up nearly anything if you are leaned over far enough, my first highside save was on an FZR400, lots of lean angle and itsy bitsy power can still sling you to the moon. > The tar you are referring to, if Barber it was, isn't really tar. I rode all > over that "tar" looking stuff last September at Barber and I think its just > a pavement seam, which you can REALLY see on TV, its not really a rubber tar > snake like say populates Mid-Ohio. I agree. The middle turn of the esses always makes my a.s pucker as I slide over those tar snakes. > > My question, why do track operators use tar to fix the cracks in the > > pavement? While it's no biggie for cars, it can be hell for a bike. Isn't [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > FZR400, lots of lean angle and itsy bitsy power can still sling you to the > moon. Ah. Looked like tar from my sofa. Must have been purely coincidental that it happened just as he crossed the line. Oh well, I learned something new today. thanks. SignatureTroy D. Hilton 2003 SV1000S > Ah. Looked like tar from my sofa. Must have been purely coincidental that > it > happened just as he crossed the line. Oh well, I learned something new > today. thanks. Yeah...one of the main reasons I just LOVE traveling around to different tracks is to know itsy bitsy details like that...I think its neat. Barber is great, maybe it ain't Laguna, but its national caliber for sure, if you get the chance...its worth it... > I'm sitting in my living room talking to the TV, "He lost > traction cause he hit hot tar!" I had the same thought, but it wouldn't be tar sealing the joints between sections of rolled blacktop, it would be a thin sealer coat that wouldn't have the viscous shearing problem of tar... The reason your motorbike moves around on hot tar is because the top surface shears at an angle in relation to the bottom surface that's stuck to the paving material... A sealer coat will just dry and have reasonable traction, even for motorbikes crossing it at a high lean angle with a lot of throttle... The back straight of Willow Springs used to look just like Barber. There were three sections of blacktop rolled flat and compacted and the sections were sealed with a dark sealer. It looked a little scary to novices like me, but nobody ever slid out on the sealer, and the pavement bleached lighter and lighter in the sun until you could hardly see the difference between sealer and blacktop... A squirrel I once rode with demonstrated how easy it was to make the rear end of his Honda step out under power. All he had to do was lean the bike over and use too much throttle. That's probably what we really saw at Barber today, those 600's have about 100+ horsepower, my squirrely friend's Honda probably had only 40 horsepower... And then Miguel's last ditch podium attempt that made *his* rear wheel step out couldn't be blamed on the sealer. He wasn't on the sealer. Miguel's engine probably puts out around 200 horsepower and it just overpowered the hot rear tire... > A sealer coat will just dry and have reasonable traction, even for > motorbikes crossing it at a high lean angle with a lot of throttle... Krusty wins the prize for someone who hasn't been there and actually run a bike across it....now that patch right before leading out onto the back straightaway...THAT looked real scary up close and personal last fall but it didn't even show up well on TV, you DAMN...you are diving right onto it, banked over and on the brakes, and it looks like a sudden ice patch right where you want it the least....but the big boys were all running through it full bore....I'm just a chicken.... > Krusty wins the prize for someone who hasn't been there > and actually run a bike across it....now that patch right [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > boys were all running through it full bore....I'm just > a chicken.... I learned from talking to pro racers that they don't look at dangerous obstacles and fear them, like we armchair adventurers do. No, they look at dangerous obstacles with the intent to overcome them, or they don't see any problem at all... Back in the late 60's, motorcycle roadracers couldn't get on a real road course at all. We couldn't get on Willow, Riverside, or Laguna Seca. We had to run on converted dragstrips, using the return roads and racing through parking lots where cars had parked and dripped on the pavement we were going to race on... I remember watching pro racers who would eventually make it to Europe and race in GP's riding within inches of a wooden fence studded with 4 X 4's every few feet. I asked one racer if those 4 X 4's in the fence didn't scare him. He said, "What fence?" At another track which was enclosed by corrugated iron sheeting, another pro racer was asked if riding so close to the steel wall didn't scare him. He said, "What wall?" He just didn't see it. And then there was the little track tour of Barber that one of the Hayden boys took us on today. He didn't even name the turns by number. Numbers just didn't matter to him, what did matter to him was where passing might be possible... > I wanna go out and buy a bigger suzuki! Must not read....Tivo awaits...no more newsgroup reading today. SignatureAndrew 00 Daytona 00 Speed Triple >I wanna go out and buy a bigger suzuki! Maladin, then the next 4 were Suzuki's. F*ck Honda & Yammihopper! Kwak is part of Zuk now, so I won't dis them. Anyone look at Suzuki's cars & their prices these days? Makes Honda's $$ look like a German cage. Way over priced/overrated IMHO. I wouldn't own a Yammi or Honda if it were given to me -:) Trumpets, Zuks & Kwak's are the only way to go. <Fight expected -:)> PS. Larry X, comparing an 11 year old RC-45 with 'Steve's smoothie Daytona triple is just plain dumb. IOW, no matter how much machining, & $$ you throw at your RC, it's still an 11 year old has been, Admittedly the Daytona's a never was but it still blows your RC in the weeds. Watch it, Steve's a danm good pilot Plane or bike too -:) PSS. Thanks for all the kudos during my deer strike phase, could've just as easily been you, don't-cha-know;) Bob Nixon, Chandler AZ-deer strike recovery-(completed) 01 Sprint ST "RED" 45K miles 03 GSXR 1000 "SILVER" 7K RIP (deer slain) > I wouldn't own a Yammi or Honda if it were given to me -:) Now you sound like Larry...except the Honda part... > PSS. Thanks for all the kudos during my deer strike phase, could've > just as easily been you, don't-cha-know;) Hard to hit a deer on a fenced in road course.....now....groundhogs and those little marmot things which seem to like it here out West? Different story. >> I wouldn't own a Yammi or Honda if it were given to me -:) > >Now you sound like Larry...except the Honda part... Not really, he doesn't even care for Honda inlines. >> PSS. Thanks for all the kudos during my deer strike phase, could've >> just as easily been you, don't-cha-know;) > >Hard to hit a deer on a fenced in road course.....now....groundhogs and >those little marmot things which seem to like it here out West? Different >story. Not you, Larry's primarily a street rider. Bob Nixon, Chandler AZ-deer strike recovery-(completed) 01 Sprint ST "RED" 45K miles 03 GSXR 1000 "SILVER" 7K RIP (deer slain) >>I wouldn't own a Yammi or Honda if it were given to me -:) > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > those little marmot things which seem to like it here out West? Different > story. We had a racer hit a deer during a SuperMotard race a few years ago out at Bremerton Raceway. I just heard about it, I didn't see it, and I don't know the outcome. SignatureAndrew 00 Daytona 00 Speed Triple RCOS #7 > PS. Larry X, comparing an 11 year old RC-45 with 'Steve's smoothie > Daytona triple is just plain dumb. IOW, no matter how much machining, > & $$ you throw at your RC, it's still an 11 year old has been, > Admittedly the Daytona's a never was but it still blows your RC in the > weeds. Watch it, Steve's a danm good pilot Plane or bike too -:) Pard... you can't deny the fact that Steve would go quicker down the bendy bits or on a track with Mr.RC45 than he ever could on that Daytona 3 legged horse... Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 >> PS. Larry X, comparing an 11 year old RC-45 with 'Steve's smoothie >> Daytona triple is just plain dumb. IOW, no matter how much machining, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > bendy bits or on a track with Mr.RC45 than he ever could on that > Daytona 3 legged horse... Is that an offer to ride? You're probably right. The Daytona is a pig, and I look like the gimp (Pulp Fiction) humping a pig on the Daytona... http://tinyurl.com/7hk6e 235# fully geared means I need every single one of the 137 ponies available... ;-) The Daytona handles well, but one can tell it's 40# heavier than the rest of the liter bike pack... Steve > Is that an offer to ride? I'll have to check your bank account first... you understand... 8-) Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 >> Is that an offer to ride? > > I'll have to check your bank account first... you understand... 8-) Bank account, shmank account... how 'bout a home equity line of credit... ;-) SignatureSteve Keith - in reverse order of procurement: 2002 Blue Daytona 1983 GS1100ED (GS2) - eBay, rode it to PHX from San Jose via the PCH - sweet! 1993 GSX1100F Fat Kat 1990 GSX600F Lil' Puss 1983 GS1100ED (GS1) My wife says: "Buell rhymes with Stool" > Bank account, shmank account... how 'bout a home equity line of credit... I'll hold Debra as collateral... she can work off the cost on the Lathe and Mill turning out parts... and for a break she can unwind on Mr.RC45... Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 >> Bank account, shmank account... how 'bout a home equity line of >> credit... > > I'll hold Debra as collateral... she can work off the cost on the > Lathe and Mill turning out parts... and for a break she can unwind on > Mr.RC45... You gots yourself a deal, mister... ;-) Steve >I wanna go out and buy a bigger suzuki! Mercy fatboy... the way you pack pounds on... you need a bigger bike and them some... pretty soon you'll need a Buell just to start your butt moving... 8-) Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 >>I wanna go out and buy a bigger suzuki! > > Mercy fatboy... the way you pack pounds on... you need a bigger bike and > them some... pretty soon you'll need a Buell just to start your butt > moving... 8-) Nah...I've never using my raging fat bastardlyness as an excuse to buy a bigger bike...I've gotten used to looking like a monkey humping a football...bike speaking. I like thems that dance, and little bikes still dance better than bigger bikes. > >>I wanna go out and buy a bigger suzuki! > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > football...bike speaking. I like thems that dance, and little bikes still > dance better than bigger bikes. Sheesh, I saw those races too. The little gixxer clearly out classed the other bikes. I would have like to see ALL the racers on 05 gixxer 1000s. Then we would have had a race... ;) ceh 2001 GSX R1000 2003 RC51 (64 & fast) > > "Larry xlax Lovisone" <netters2@combogusinfocast.com> wrote in > message [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > the other bikes. I would have like to see ALL the racers on 05 gixxer > 1000s. Then we would have had a race... ;) Heck Coleman, 25 or 26 WERE on zukes...what more do you want? ;-) SignatureTweak > Heck Coleman, 25 or 26 WERE on zukes...what more do you want? Excuse me for butting in Howard but what you want is the GSVR not the out dated GSXR... Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 > > Heck Coleman, 25 or 26 WERE on zukes...what more do you want? > > Excuse me for butting in Howard but what you want is the GSVR not the out dated > GSXR... Remember reading in RRW a few months back the question of why the GSVR (and all the attendant money) when their lap times were only a few tenths better than the GSXRs. No good answer. Maybe they had a bunch of castings left over from the Calvacade (sp?)? SignatureTweak > Remember reading in RRW a few months back the question of why the GSVR > (and all the attendant money) when their lap times were only a few > tenths better than the GSXRs. It's the V4 advantage... now you know I say inlines are dead and buried... Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 > > Remember reading in RRW a few months back the question of why the GSVR > > (and all the attendant money) when their lap times were only a few > > tenths better than the GSXRs. > > It's the V4 advantage... now you know I say inlines are dead and buried... Advantage? No competitive team in MotoGP is running a V4, just the backmarkers. Gist of the article was that Suzuki would do just as well with an off the shelf GSXR. SignatureTweak > Advantage? Narrow as an arrow engine... Flexless cube block cases... Less internal friction... Lighter crankshaft... Flat torque curve... Broad spread power delivery... Easier to ride on the edge... No competitive team in MotoGP is running a V4, just the > backmarkers. Gist of the article was that Suzuki would do just as well > with an off the shelf GSXR. Negative... Off the shelf GSXR handles like a wheel barrow full of bowling balls compared to the GSVR... face it Tweak... inlines are a step backwards... all the way back to 1939... mercy!!! Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 > No competitive team in MotoGP is running a V4, just the > > backmarkers. Gist of the article was that Suzuki would do just as well [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > compared to the GSVR... face it Tweak... inlines are a step backwards... all the > way back to 1939... mercy!!! Zero would be the number of competitive V4s in MotoGP, AMA, BSB and WSB racing, which includes the GSVR (which is made of leftover Calvacade parts, I still say). Even Honda dumped the V4. That "wheel barrow full of bowling balls" (nice phraseology, BTW) has run off with just about every race it's entered this year. Haven't noticed any V4s giving it any trouble, just a pesky old school V twin from Italy. SignatureTweak > Zero would be the number of competitive V4s in MotoGP, AMA, BSB and WSB > racing, which includes the GSVR (which is made of leftover Calvacade > parts, I still say). Even Honda dumped the V4. V4s are just beginning to capitalize of their advantage whereas Inlines have hit the development wall and have no where to expand... even Jeremy Burgess... Rossi chief wrench... says that the V4 is by far the best engine architect for MotoGp... I predict a day when V4 and V5 will be all you see in MotoGp... no more I3 or I4's... So you may not see it but MotoGp is the battle of engine architects... > That "wheel barrow full of bowling balls" (nice phraseology, BTW) has > run off with just about every race it's entered this year. Haven't > noticed any V4s giving it any trouble, just a pesky old school V twin > from Italy. I know it's not clear now but wait till 2006 when Ducati releases the Desmosedici V4 and see if the field wilts under the V4 advantage... Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 > > Zero would be the number of competitive V4s in MotoGP, AMA, BSB and WSB > > racing, which includes the GSVR (which is made of leftover Calvacade [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I know it's not clear now but wait till 2006 when Ducati releases the > Desmosedici V4 and see if the field wilts under the V4 advantage... Maybe so, Larry. I don't really have a dog in this hunt...I'm just yankin' your chain. It would indeed be nice to see a few more competitive companies in MotoGP, regardless of engine layout. SignatureTweak > Maybe so, Larry. I don't really have a dog in this hunt...I'm just > yankin' your chain. You do have a dog in this hunt because there's a V4 in your future... and Rossi is not helping by making an inline look better than it is... somebody needs to yank his chain... Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 > > Maybe so, Larry. I don't really have a dog in this hunt...I'm just > > yankin' your chain. > > You do have a dog in this hunt because there's a V4 in your future... and Rossi > is not helping by making an inline look better than it is... somebody needs to > yank his chain... There is already one in my garage, attached to the most humdrum, soul sucking motorcycle I have ever owned. It is not helping your case. Maybe I will restore an '80s Calvacade? As to Rossi...are you volunteering? Just take that "mighty" RC and show that punk a thing or two. ;-) SignatureTweak > There is already one in my garage, attached to the most humdrum, soul > sucking motorcycle I have ever owned. It is not helping your case. > Maybe I will restore an '80s Calvacade? Calvacades handle like refrigerators full of bowling balls... it's got to be the worst V4 on the planet... get rid of it and get ready for a real V4... > As to Rossi...are you volunteering? Just take that "mighty" RC and show > that punk a thing or two. If I could get my hands on Rossi's chain I'd jerk the little God Spawn over to Ducati's V4... Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 > > There is already one in my garage, attached to the most humdrum, soul > > sucking motorcycle I have ever owned. It is not helping your case. > > Maybe I will restore an '80s Calvacade? > > Calvacades handle like refrigerators full of bowling balls... Just like a gixxer, then? Man, I DO need one of these. > it's got to be the > worst V4 on the planet... get rid of it and get ready for a real V4... Larry Larry...I said maybe I should restore one of them. The V4 I currently own is a ST1100. > > As to Rossi...are you volunteering? Just take that "mighty" RC and show > > that punk a thing or two. > > If I could get my hands on Rossi's chain I'd jerk the little God Spawn over to > Ducati's V4... Mighty big talk. You would have to catch Mr. Rossi's chain first, a task for which I think your vintage RC is overmatched. SignatureTweak > Larry Larry...I said maybe I should restore one of them. The V4 I > currently own is a ST1100. Copy the maybe... ST is a 360 degree crank V4 and you ought to see Andy Burnett ride the wheels off his ST1100... mercy... Andy is able to break the hearts of about 85% of the Sportriders out west on their latest Motor of Deaths... > Mighty big talk. You would have to catch Mr. Rossi's chain first, a > task for which I think your vintage RC is overmatched. Negative... RC30s are vintage... RC45s are still state of the art... Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 > > Larry Larry...I said maybe I should restore one of them. The V4 I > > currently own is a ST1100. > > Copy the maybe... ST is a 360 degree crank V4 and you ought to see Andy Burnett > ride the wheels off his ST1100... mercy... Andy is able to break the hearts of > about 85% of the Sportriders out west on their latest Motor of Deaths... Now we all know what that is about. When I can catch, pass and leave someone at the track who is riding a 03-04 gixxer 1k, it ain't the SV that gets the credit. Some of those guys I could leave riding my trusty GS850L. > > Mighty big talk. You would have to catch Mr. Rossi's chain first, a > > task for which I think your vintage RC is overmatched. > > Negative... RC30s are vintage... RC45s are still state of the art... A really nice RC30 just sold on the WERA board. ~6k miles and very clean. SignatureTweak > Sheesh, I saw those races too. The little gixxer clearly out classed > the other bikes. I would have like to see ALL the racers on 05 gixxer > 1000s. Then we would have had a race... ;) I remember the Suzuki challenge final that took place at Riverside International Raceway on a rainy Sunday about 1988 or 1989. That was the closest big bore sportbike race I ever saw, because they were all on GSXR-1100's... Then it started raining so hard the 750 Gixxer riders had to take a vote whether they wanted to risk it, racing in a downpour, or should they just vote to let the series win go to the guys with the most points from the previous race. I think that's what they did settle on... Back during the late 1980's, Suzuki sponsored a GSXR BOX STOCK series to promote sales of GSXR-750's and 1100'sby paying contingency money. I dunno what happened to the series, maybe Suzuki sold enough Gixxers, ya think? The series paid money to the top finishers, there were Suzuki challenge races at all the club events, and the winners would get to go to Road Atlanta. Other brands of motorbike could enter the box stock races, but only the Suzukis would get into the money, so there were more and more Suzukis... The owner of Willow Springs International Raceway was always a blowhard and a thorn in the side of racing. He said that he'd been the one who thought up the Suzuki challenge races and that he had thought up Formula USA all by himself, too. He said that he wouldn't allow any more Suzuki challenge races to be held on his track if the final event wasn't held there too. He said the same thing about Formula USA races, that he had all the rights to those races... A whole bunch of political sh.t went down, people from the various clubs all got shuffled around, and I lost track of what was happening with the Suzuki challenge races, whether they still are happening or not... Some famous name riders, like Doug Polen and Kevin Schwantz were very successful in box stock Suzukis and moved up the professional ladder to stardom. But the average private roadracer found himself spending about $10,000 to buy a $4500 motorcycle and run it for a season, just to wind up with a motorcycle that was worth $2500 at the end of the season, the points money wasn't enough to pay back their investment... |
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