Can Anyone recommend a powerfull/agile/comfortable two-up tourer?
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Damien Sawyer - 20 Jun 2005 01:36 GMT Hi,
I'm looking to trade in my 1997 Ducati 750SS on something 1/ more powerful 2/ more comfortable for two people touring
I don't suppose someone could recommend anything to look at? I'm looking at the CBR1100XX (see my other post 3 minutes ago) however (amongst other things) am nervous that I'm going to miss the agility of the smaller bike. My 'favourite' riding is along the lines of quick runs through tight alpine type twisties (well... whoose isn't?)
I've been a bit Ducati obsessed for the past 10 years... but am thinking that I might turn my eyes to other manufacturers.
Thanks in advance for any advice :-)
Damien Sawyer
Phil - 20 Jun 2005 02:09 GMT Not good for 2 up touring, but Aprilia Tuono comes to mind. Especially if you want agility in tight twisties. However, the engine is a twin, and while counterbalanced and smooth, you feel power pulses quite clearly. Quite a bit cheaper to maintain than a Ducati, and more comfy than a CBR1100XX in my mind. - Phil
> Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Damien Sawyer _Bob_Nixon - 20 Jun 2005 04:26 GMT >Not good for 2 up touring, but Aprilia Tuono comes to mind. Especially if >you want agility in tight twisties. However, the engine is a twin, and >while counterbalanced and smooth, you feel power pulses quite clearly. >Quite a bit cheaper to maintain than a Ducati, and more comfy than a >CBR1100XX in my mind. - Phil What a clueless response from Phil. The Tuono has little wind protection and is basically a stripped down race replica; aka Mille. This guy asked about touring bikes and you come back with a "CITY houligan bike". And dude, all the priller 60 degree (Rotax)twins are paint shakers. At least you could have suggested the Futura as it is a purpose built Sport Tourer?
>> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> Thanks in advance for any advice :-) Aprilia Futura, Triumph Sprint ST, Honda VFR, Ducati ST4s & ST3s, Honda XX, Yamaha FJR-1300, Honda ST-1300, BMW K1200RS, Kawasaki ZZR-1200, Suzuki SV-1000S, Suzuki Hayabusa 1300. Bob Nixon, Chandler AZ 01 Sprint ST "RED" 45K miles
DaveG - 20 Jun 2005 15:30 GMT > Not good for 2 up touring, but Aprilia Tuono comes to mind. Especially if > you want agility in tight twisties. However, the engine is a twin, and > while counterbalanced and smooth, you feel power pulses quite clearly. > Quite a bit cheaper to maintain than a Ducati, and more comfy than a > CBR1100XX in my mind. - Phil Have you seen a CBRXX?? It's got a big a.s bench seat, it's awesome for two up, and the engine is butter smooth. I've never ridden a Tuono, but it looks like an RSV with no body work- so I'm sure I could ride one two up all day... as long as I'm running from an apocalyptic army of demons.
>> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >> Damien Sawyer G C - 20 Jun 2005 02:34 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Damien Sawyer ZG1000 (GTR1000) any year after '95. It aint a Duc but it does 2 up well. They are inexpensive and maintenance free as a bike can be. There is a reason I still have a Duc and the Kawi. (Though the 900 is well ahead of the 750 when it comes to grunt. Still gets it's a.s handed to it by modern 600s.)
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Jim S - 20 Jun 2005 03:28 GMT There seems to be a lot of interest in this: http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/machine/models/model.jsp?model=r1200st
I rode one at a recent open house, and was very impressed. Not overpowering but extremely do-able for two up stuff. We took it over one of the local goat-trails and got on it fairly aggressively, it just did what we asked. I like that in a bike. The suspension is by far the most stable in high speed turns ( even on bumpy, nasty roads) that I have ever ridden. The best.
My spouse enjoyed the ride, too. We own a 1994 R1100Rs and found that the ST put to rest anything we don't particularly like about the RS. So when we win the lottery, we'll get one. Silver , I guess. I would look at Yamaha FJR 1300, Ducati ST4, and even the BMW R1200GS (the new one).
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PC Paul - 27 Jun 2005 16:44 GMT > There seems to be a lot of interest in this: > http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/machine/models/model.jsp?model=r1200st [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I would look at Yamaha FJR 1300, Ducati ST4, and even the BMW R1200GS (the > new one). This is a far better option for comfortable touring: http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/machine/models/model.jsp?model=r1200rt
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saddlebag@aol.com - 27 Jun 2005 23:49 GMT >> There seems to be a lot of interest in this: >> http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/machine/models/model.jsp?model=r1200st [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > This is a far better option for comfortable touring: > http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/machine/models/model.jsp?model=r1200rt From the looks of it, the reviews I read, and all the nifty features I would have been the first to agree with you...then I rode one. I'll take an ST4 or Sprint ST any day thank you very much.
Tweak - 28 Jun 2005 13:01 GMT > > This is a far better option for comfortable touring: > > http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/machine/models/model.jsp?model=r1200rt > > From the looks of it, the reviews I read, and all the nifty features I > would have been the first to agree with you...then I rode one. I'll take > an ST4 or Sprint ST any day thank you very much. The R1200RT? Have not ridden one yet, but it does indeed read like the ticket.
Might be different for me coming off the ST1100 as opposed to the ST4.
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PC Paul - 28 Jun 2005 17:42 GMT >>> There seems to be a lot of interest in this: >>> http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/machine/models/model.jsp?model=r1200st [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > would have been the first to agree with you...then I rode one. I'll take > an ST4 or Sprint ST any day thank you very much. Well hell! What do I know about comfort? I'm still riding a '77 R100RS with a Corbin Gunfighter saddle. ;-)
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DaveG - 20 Jun 2005 15:48 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Thanks in advance for any advice :-) Personally, I think the CBRXX is a great GT bike, and the ZZR1200 you mentioned in your other post is very well respected in that department as well. Essentially, there are many to choose from- so one question to ponder is how much do you want to spend? Because I can find new VFR's for under $8000 (but it will not pull like the others listed), and the XX is no longer being sold in the US so you may be able to find some deals on it also. The FJR is a bitch to get your hands on, there is a wait list typically so there will be very little bargaining involved in that purchase. The K1200S sure does feel sweet when I sit on her, but she's also somewhere around $16,000. More to add to the list: Triumph Sprint ST, Aprilia Futura (as Bob mentioned), and the Ducati ST3 or ST4s. I guess all one can do is put together a list of bikes and there features- or lack of- and compare to a list of what you want, everything from price down to the looks of the bike. Good luck.
DaveG
Andrew - 20 Jun 2005 18:52 GMT >>Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > DaveG So I saw the MZ 1000 at the dealer a week or so ago. It can give the Sprint a run for it's money on comfort. It is a bit weaker on protection, and it has the parallel twin, which is not as nice as a triple, IMO. I didn't ride it, but I did sit on it and it was comfy, with a nice bench seat.
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