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Motorcycle Forum / General / Sportbikes / June 200505 Ninja oil change, is it hard?
I am handy and regularly change my truck oil. Just called shop and they want $70 for an oil change with filter. Couple of questions: 1) Does Grease Monkey do bikes? If so, anyone done it? 2) How hard is it to change it myself? Any special tools needed? thanks. chris > I am handy and regularly change my truck oil. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > chris It's easy and definitely cheaper than $70.00 Which ninja?  SignatureAndrew 00 Daytona 00 Speed Triple RCOS #7 ZX-6R I'll try it then. Any words of wisdom? For the group's info, Grease Monkey does NOT do motorcycles, I called. chris > ZX-6R > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > chris Make sure to put some oil on the new filter's gasket. I always stick with OEM filters, but many do not. Your choice. It's an easy job, you'll have it done in 20 minutes. SignatureAndrew 00 Daytona 00 Speed Triple RCOS #7 >> ZX-6R >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >I always stick with OEM filters, but many do not. Your choice. >It's an easy job, you'll have it done in 20 minutes. The Buell takes five minutes and I use a Walmart cage filter.:-) Regards Mike >>>ZX-6R >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Mike It takes longer than 5 minutes just to get the oil to stop dripping out of the crankcase for me. I use about 4 qts. I just warm it up, turn it off, drain it, plug it, replace the filter, fill it, done. Does your Buell take less oil? Smaller crankcase? Oil cooler? Or do you just not let it drip as long as I do? SignatureAndrew 00 Speed Triple 00 Daytona RCOS #7 >>>>ZX-6R >>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Does your Buell take less oil? Smaller crankcase? Oil cooler? >Or do you just not let it drip as long as I do? The Buell runs less then 2.5 Qts. The drain plug is attached to my frame right before the swing arm. Take a pair of pliers squeeze the clip,pull the plug out of the rubber hose and drain the oil into a one gallion jug. While that is draining I pull the filter, fill up the new filter with oil and reinstall. This will be about the time I put the drain plug back in its rubber hose. Throw in 2.5 QTs and I am done. I could just as well throw in a set of new plugs as well and it wouldn't take any longer.:-) Now changing out a belt is a tough job versus a chain. Good thing the belt can last up to say 60,000 miles.:-) Now lets talk valve adjustments.:-) Regards Mike >>> ZX-6R >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > The Buell takes five minutes and I use a Walmart cage filter.:-) You mean like they use in those paint mixer engines? Geez, I never woulda guessed in trilliion years!!! > Regards > > Mike On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:36:54 GMT, "Yanni c\)k" <yann452@wandoo.fr> wrote: >>>> ZX-6R >>>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >You mean like they use in those paint mixer engines? Geez, I never woulda >guessed in trilliion years!!! That Walmart filter is one of the best filters out there. Regards Mike > That Walmart filter is one of the best filters out there. Reference please..... >> That Walmart filter is one of the best filters out there. > >Reference please..... SuperTech filters (Wal marts brand name) are made by Champion Laboratories who make Mobil One and Bosch filters and also some automaker brands. Go here and it will tell you a little about them http://www.yft.org/tex_vfr/tech/oilfilter.htm although this isn't where I got the original info about this filter. It rated very high in a compro against other more expensive filters. In fact it was better then most of them. At $2.00 a pop you can't go wrong or you can pay $4.00 and get a junk Fram filter. Regards Mike >>> That Walmart filter is one of the best filters out there. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://www.yft.org/tex_vfr/tech/oilfilter.htm I noticed a blurb on supertech switching over to the Ecore filter design, and some people bitching about it, but once they cut it open they were happy that it didn't look like a Fram inside. Some people seem to have a beef with Ecore, but its still a Champion made product so I'm not sure what the whining is all about. >> That Walmart filter is one of the best filters out there. > >Reference please..... Oh and nice to see you came back home in one piece. How was your vacation? Regards Mike >>> That Walmart filter is one of the best filters out there. >> >>Reference please..... > > Oh and nice to see you came back home in one piece. How was your > vacation? 1 week sitting around the in-laws. Yeech. 1 week sitting around my moms. Yeech. 3 days in Washington DC to see some museums or for my cage to be stolen. Better. 1 week in Ocean city sitting around the condo while the wife and kids played in the water. Yeech. I'm doing something more interesting next year, I'm tired of wasting vacation just so everyone else can have fun. And I'm taller than Saddle, I could look down on his bushy eyebrows so I've got a good inch or two in height on him. He made lewd suggestions about your sexual proclivities by the way, and suggested we should try and contact your wife and warn her. I of course listened intently but insulted no fellow AMS'ers. > And I'm taller than Saddle, I could look down on his bushy eyebrows so I've > got a good inch or two in height on him. All that driving apparently made him delerious. > He made lewd suggestions about your > sexual proclivities by the way, and suggested we should try and contact your > wife and warn her. There are many good reasons to contact his wife and warn her, but how he chooses to massage his weenie isn't one of them. > I of course listened intently but insulted no fellow > AMS'ers. Except all the gun toting AMS'rs. He said none of you would have the cojones to meet with him. Said he'd take yer guns and stick em so far up your backsides that you'd have to use you uvulas to cock them! At last, your back to pick on. Later I'll repost the pic of you sitting on the Duc for your "album of dreams." But first I have a date with the wife to watch "Meet the Foeckers." >> I of course listened intently but insulted no fellow AMS'ers. > > Except all the gun toting AMS'rs. He said none of you would have the > cojones to meet with him. Said he'd take yer guns and stick em so far up > your backsides that you'd have to use you uvulas to cock them! Saddle! How dare you fabricate after the extravagant meal I purchased to bribe your silence! > At last, your back to pick on. Said the fly to the spider.... >Later I'll repost the pic of you sitting on the Duc for your "album of >dreams." But first I have a date with the wife to watch "Meet the >Foeckers." I've already got it. I didn't realize I was reaching that hard for the floor on it. And it wasn't comfortable, I don't know how in the hell you put 30K miles on it...it felt as lousy a seating position as my old 929, which is to say, more comfortable than alot of sportbikes but nothing to write home to momma about. I couldn't sit all the way through meet the fockers but my wife liked it. > I couldn't sit all the way through meet the fockers but my wife liked it. In the end they turned the hardened conservative prick into a liberal love weenie. Everyone can appreciate that. >> I couldn't sit all the way through meet the fockers but my wife liked it. > > In the end they turned the hardened conservative prick into a liberal love > weenie. Everyone can appreciate that. No...YOU might appreciate it...like I said, I wasn't amused well enough to sit through the whole thing. >>> I couldn't sit all the way through meet the fockers but my wife liked it. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >No...YOU might appreciate it...like I said, I wasn't amused well enough to >sit through the whole thing. There are not many movies I can sit through nowadays then again I like the old black and white flicks. I like a good western as well. Regards Mike >I like a good western as well. > Regards > > Mike Yup. Like the Star Wars series, a wonderful western. Hey Mike, wanna guess what my best mileage has been on the camry to date? Got 7500 miles on it, collected one warning ticket in Kansas doing a non stop, Ocean City Maryland to Denver run ( 32 hours ) and its still as good as new. By this point in time on those two Fords I had a blown tranny, 3 clutches replaced, a bad fuel pump on the Ranger, and 2 assembly issues ( broken wiring harness and poor vacuum line placement ) which required dealer repair. So far, the Camry has broken....well...nothing! And my gas mileage? Go ahead...guess. I got my best mileage back in flatlander country with those ridiculous speed limits, call it a steady 60-70 mph through Pennsylvania, down to Maryland to Virginia, through Washington DC to Ocean City...some of that was even 55 mph crap. 2.4L 4 cylinder. Automatic. No real enthusiastic runs to redline just for fun, just plain jane ol' traveling. >>>> That Walmart filter is one of the best filters out there. >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >And I'm taller than Saddle, I could look down on his bushy eyebrows so I've >got a good inch or two in height on him. Heck I pictured Saddle at about 6'4" 220. > He made lewd suggestions about your >sexual proclivities You are using big words here Troy. You mean he made inclinations?:-) > by the way, and suggested we should try and contact your >wife and warn her. LOL! You better email her because if Saddle was too call she would hang up so fast he wouldn't get a word in edge wise. She is aware of his ultra leftist leanings.:-) > I of course listened intently but insulted no fellow >AMS'ers. You sure you were not sound asleep?:-) Regards Mike >>And I'm taller than Saddle, I could look down on his bushy eyebrows so >>I've >>got a good inch or two in height on him. > > Heck I pictured Saddle at about 6'4" 220. Nah...more like 5'4".....I had to help boost him onto his Kawi when he rode away. >> He made lewd suggestions about your >>sexual proclivities > > You are using big words here Troy. You mean he made inclinations?:-) Insinuations? >> by the way, and suggested we should try and contact your >>wife and warn her. > > LOL! You better email her because if Saddle was too call she would > hang up so fast he wouldn't get a word in edge wise. She is aware of > his ultra leftist leanings.:-) Saddle seemed like a pretty regular guy, although he did express to me an unhealthy interest in farm animals while we were eating, requiring me to walk over and look at them while he tried to feed some of them his ice cream cone. Big sign saying "Please don't feed the animals anything except the food in the dispensers" and here is this bike gear clad guy trying to stuff an ice cream cone into a goats mouth. The goat refused to accept the offer. Even he suspected saddle's political agenda methinks. >> I of course listened intently but insulted no fellow >>AMS'ers. > > You sure you were not sound asleep?:-) It took 3 hours to drive there to meet him, I was pretty awake the whole time. > Big sign saying "Please don't feed the animals anything except the > food in the dispensers" and here is this bike gear clad guy trying to stuff > an ice cream cone into a goats mouth. Saddle, I wouldn't recommend trying this with the grizzlies at the zoo here when you come to visit. They like ice cream. I think they might even like biker. SignatureJamin Kortegard popular sportbike / popular car "Hokey 600s and trackday usability are no match for a good literbike at your side, kid." - Michael >>Big sign saying "Please don't feed the animals anything except the >>food in the dispensers" and here is this bike gear clad guy trying to stuff [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > when you come to visit. They like ice cream. I think they might even like > biker. Yeah, but nature hasn't given them a taste for my Kevlar and Carbon Fiber shell...yet anyways. I see that sharks seem to really be taking a liking to people down in Florida. Musta overfished the area and left the poor critters no other choice. >1) Does Grease Monkey do bikes? If so, anyone done it? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >chris A monkey could do it, which is why shop monkeys want to charge you $70: it's easy money. Paying someone to do it is lunacy, unless you're - very lazy - wealthy - an idiot not to be trusted with ANY tools 1. Find replacement filter somewhere. My Blackbird and ZX6R take the same filter, come to find out, not uncommon in the bike world these days. Addenda: 1a: buy cordless drill and/or t-handle wrenches to make removing fairing panels a breeze. Kawasakis use allen heads for fairing bolts, last I checked. 2. Recon situation, decide how tough it is to remove the filter (varies bike to bike). If you have an "'05 Ninja" and it's anything like my '03 ZX6R, the filters's easily accessible in front of the exhaust header, so it's a non-issue. 3. I use a monkey wrench (appropriately enough) to remove oil filters: I could give a sh.t if it's damaged coming off. In fact that tends to make the job quicker. 4. Reinstalling, I'd use hand-tightening or the barest pressure on said monkey wrench. Maybe 10 ft/lbs torque, not much more. There are special filter wrenches to do the job with more élan; my way's dirt-simple. If you had a Triumph Daytona, I'd say break out the heavy weapons 'cause Deerslayer's continually welds itself to the bike, making filter removal challenging. '----------------------------------------------------- ' Daniel Bannon ' NW WA State, U.S.A. ' 2003 ZX636B Hercusaki, 1999 CBR1100XX '----------------------------------------------------- |
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