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Motorcycle Forum / General / Sportbikes / June 2005FZ-1, SV-1000...
I know, totally different bikes. I've been out of street biking for many years and am thinking of getting back into it. Some friends recommend the FZ-1. I believe they're dyed-in-the-wool Yamaha guys and I'm sure that's a great bike. I don't really like the looks of it. A brother figures the SV1000 and its V-Twin would be good for me. Looks better to my eye. I don't have much opportunity to road-test these as it's late in the selling-season where I am and there's not much inventory around. Mostly town and short-haul stuff and it would be almost completely a fun-bike for me (as opposed to a commuter or transportation bike). I would be taking my kids/wife on the back occasionally. Any rec's? >I know, totally different bikes. I've been out of street biking for many >years and am thinking of getting back into it. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Any rec's? Well, I put my money down on sv1000s and have no regrets. FZ-1 looks pretty ugly to me and is not fuel injected like sv. Also, sv is lighter and has v-twin grunt down low which is a boootiful thang. FZ does eventually develop more power on the graph being a four-pot, but practically speaking, you may never ever see it. > Well, I put my money down on sv1000s and have no regrets. FZ-1 looks pretty > ugly to me and is not fuel injected like sv. Also, sv is lighter and has > v-twin grunt down low which is a boootiful thang. FZ does eventually develop > more power on the graph being a four-pot, but practically speaking, you may > never ever see it. To be honest both look ugly for me. I own the FZ-1 for almost 3 months and did not got used to that fairing which totally does not fit the naked bike. Fortunately it is somewhat useful. But instead getting used to 7K+ RPM step by step :-). I have put more than 2000 miles on it so far and this is my first bike ever. I like that 500lb on thy very windy highways up here in Chicago - feel more stable (but for experienced rider not sure if the heavy/light bike for riding in strong winds should be a factor). Someone warned me that it weight might be a problem on the parking lot. It was kind of difficult at the beginning but now I do not have any problems. In fact for me 6' tall and 200lb, the size and the weight are just right. I am a little disappointed by the mirrors - I see more my arms then what is behind me. Finally I set them very "wide" (like in my car) and just missing the rear mirror like in the car and ability to spot the cops behind me. They also could not vibrate. All the suspension, brakes, engine (besides small backfires and instability at 3-4K RPM ) looks superior for me - better from whatever I could expect. But since I am the new learning rider on the first bike I really can not comment. A, > I know, totally different bikes. I've been out of street biking for many > years and am thinking of getting back into it. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Any rec's? If you want to pull the front wheel off the ground at 100 mph the FZ1 is the bike for you. it gets very good reviews. If you want fun around town and will be happy with wheelies under 65 mph or so and like the sound and feel of a twin..then the SV is the way to go. It also gets great reviews. It would be more fun for most people I think than the fz...which most will never need to get out of second gear. Insurance can be a huge issue..check that... the fz is probably going to cost 3x as much to insure as the Sv. If you like riding predominantly under 90 mph the SV 650 gets great reviews.. I it maxes at 125 or 130)..its a hoot up to 90.. and light and also cheap. The fz will have the best suspension. the SV1000 is said to be good but no raves... the sv650 suspension needs a lot of work. I have an SV650 and its a real fun bike...almost everyone who rides one says that... Be sure to get the model with the high mounted bars if you are going to take passengers and want to be comfy on long runs/ Phil Scott One of my buddies who does tons of research and riding, recently got back into street bikes and he chose the SV650. He convinced me to get back into street riding again and I must admit the SV650 is exactly as Phil described it. I personally chose a VFR800, but it was more personal taste than any shortcomings of the SV650... Either way, the bikes now are so much better than when I used to ride 15 years ago, I can hardly believe it. You will not be disappointed with either SV, you might test ride some used ones to get a feel before buying new if that's what you want. Cheers, Joe Ficalora >> I know, totally different bikes. I've been out of street > biking for many [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Phil Scott "Phil Scott" <philscott@philscott.net> wrote in news:d9q42s$ds5$1 @news.tdl.com: > Insurance can be a huge issue..check that... the fz is > probably going to cost 3x as much to insure as the Sv. If you insure with State Farm, they'll be exactly the same, since State Farm bases their rates on displacement. Other than engine size, they don't know a sportbike from a roller skate. ab Yeah - insurance here is all the same for over 500cc. > "Phil Scott" <philscott@philscott.net> wrote in news:d9q42s$ds5$1 > @news.tdl.com: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > ab > Yeah - insurance here is all the same for over 500cc. My insurance at State Farm was quoted 3 times higher than what I am paying elsewhere. State farm by running up rates on non sport bikes is able to have lower rates on crotch rockets. a good deal for crotch rocket riders by comparison and not such a good deal for those riding standard bikes. its net premium that is relevant in the end. Im 100 dollars a year for full coverage on the SV... State farm was well over 300 dollars. Phil Scott > > "Phil Scott" <philscott@philscott.net> wrote in news:d9q42s$ds5$1 > > @news.tdl.com: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > ab >> Yeah - insurance here is all the same for over 500cc. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Im 100 dollars a year for full coverage on the SV... State >farm was well over 300 dollars. Man....I really wanna know how ya'll do that insurance crap. I pay almost 100 a friggin MONTH, nevermind a year.... And my driving record is pretty damn good.... -- Stephan 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6 >>Im 100 dollars a year for full coverage on the SV... State >>farm was well over 300 dollars. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > And my driving record is pretty damn good.... You live in Florida. Move. > You live in Florida. Move. Bullshit.... I live and South Florida. I have State Farm and had a bike stolen after only paying insurance for 6 months (03 R6). I was paying about $24 per/mo for full coverage. I now have an 04 GSXR 750 fully covered for $32 per/mo. State Farm only cares about cc's and if it's turbocharged. Don't get me wrong, bike theft is an everyday occurrence down here but State Farm is the sh.t.... > Bullshit.... I live and South Florida. > I have State Farm and had a bike stolen after only paying insurance for 6 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Don't get me wrong, bike theft is an everyday occurrence down here but State > Farm is the sh.t.... Tried State Farm first but they require to have your cars insured there before they let yours bike added. Not an option for me - prefere Safeco for cars. A. >> You live in Florida. Move. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Don't get me wrong, bike theft is an everyday occurrence down here but > State Farm is the sh.t.... Cool. So there is a solution...even for Florida...and Steve chose to not take advantage of it, and to apparently pay $100/month for a policy which doesn't even include comp. Myself, I use Allstate, but I don't know if they'll even WRITE a policy in Florida....doesn't matter considering its one of those states I wouldn't move to without someone putting a gun to my head. >>> You live in Florida. Move. >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Florida....doesn't matter considering its one of those states I wouldn't >move to without someone putting a gun to my head. What would it take for you to move to Wisconsin?:-) We have good cheese here. Regards Mike > What would it take for you to move to Wisconsin?:-) We have good > cheese here. Lets see...a thriving oil and gas industry? Decent roads all packed into a single county so they be strung together for a mornings ride? Less humidity? Elevation for scenery? Cheap open all week racetracks? >>> You live in Florida. Move. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >take advantage of it, and to apparently pay $100/month for a policy which >doesn't even include comp. I've been thinking of switching to state farm for the past month or so.. Had plans to do so next month when geico runs out.... -- Stephan 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6 >> You live in Florida. Move. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Don't get me wrong, bike theft is an everyday occurrence down here but State >Farm is the sh.t.... I was planning on switching to state farm next month....*sigh*.. -- Stephan 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6 > Man....I really wanna know how ya'll do that insurance crap. I pay > almost 100 a friggin MONTH, nevermind a year.... > > And my driving record is pretty damn good.... We're all nearing 40, if not over!  SignatureAndrew 00 Speed Triple 00 Daytona RCOS #7 >Man....I really wanna know how ya'll do that insurance crap. I pay >almost 100 a friggin MONTH, nevermind a year.... > >And my driving record is pretty damn good.... That's why I sold my R6 and got a real bike. The Yammie has some of the highest claims of any motorcycle. Now I ride a Speed Triple, more room, more vroom, more torque. Capable of handing an R6 it's own a.s any time of day on a real road. $330/year in loverly NYC. They wanted $2000 for the R6. >>Man....I really wanna know how ya'll do that insurance crap. I pay >>almost 100 a friggin MONTH, nevermind a year.... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Now I ride a Speed Triple, more room, more vroom, more torque. And a heck of alot prettier.:-) >Capable >of handing an R6 it's own a.s any time of day on a real road. > >$330/year in loverly NYC. They wanted $2000 for the R6. Thats a no brainer. Regards Mike > "Phil Scott" <philscott@philscott.net> wrote in news:d9q42s$ds5$1 > @news.tdl.com: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > ab FZ-1 2004, 35 years old, only rider, maried, homeowner, Progressive: $360/year. A. >> "Phil Scott" <philscott@philscott.net> wrote in news:d9q42s$ds5$1 >> @news.tdl.com: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > A. duc monster 750 for 6 years with progressive got down to $96 a year.. then this last time it suddenly DOUBLED! no tickets or other changes on my part. inquired and found that they "recatagorised" my bike and also that progressive no longer wants to be the lowest cost provider. switched to farmers to join my home and car. back to around $100. >I know, totally different bikes. I've been out of street biking for many >years and am thinking of getting back into it. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Any rec's? I've never done a tune-up on an SV1000, but I can tell you that cylinder #3's plug is a sumbitch to get at on the FZ. So, you may want to consider that kind of stuff if you do your own wrenching. Or not. It wasn't horrible to do, but a twin must be easier. The SV is also lighter should that be important. The FZ1 tips 500lbs fully loaded in stock trim. I like that for windy highway travelling. I don't find it much to move around in-city either. YMMV. The FZ holds a gallon more fuel, but that shouldn't make a difference given your intended use. I don't think you'll go wrong either way. So if the SV appeals to you, dump your hump on one and see if it fits as nice as it looks. -- John, '95 R1100GS, '02 FZ1, '73 RD350 Miles from where I started Thanks for the responses. 1 black SV-1000 on order. >I know, totally different bikes. I've been out of street biking for many >years and am thinking of getting back into it. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Any rec's? |
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