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Oh what fun it is to shop Ebay... especially when you win an $2000 HRC Swingarm for $214 delivered... Merry Christmas Mr.RC45... What under the tree for your bike??? http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/Mr.RC45HRCSwingarm.JPG Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 http://www.reeky.org/gallery/xlax > Oh what fun it is to shop Ebay... especially when you win an $2000 HRC Swingarm > for $214 delivered... Merry Christmas Mr.RC45... What under the tree for your > bike??? > http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/Mr.RC45HRCSwingarm.JPG Nice deal, but what's the benefit over the stock one. Lighter? Stronger? Both? > Nice deal, but what's the benefit over the stock one. Lighter? > Stronger? Both? There are many HRC kit swingarms however what they share in common is a different attach point for the pro link arm and double titanium pinch bolts... this affords the shock a more one to one ratio for rigors of WSB racing... I'll have to complete an engineering study... with the help of Tony Foale's book... in order to know what to machine for the successful mating of my current Ohlins... The holy grail of HRC swingarms are 98 to 99 models which are gold in color because they are cast Magnesium which weights in at only 8.2 pounds... mine is unfortunately a 96 made out of aluminum... so it weights 11.8 pounds or about the same as stock... so no weight savings this time... I'd sheets m' drawers if I ever came across an genuine HRC magnesium swingarm... I keep a special fund on standby just in case... HRC twin bolt... http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/HRCSwingarm.JPG Stock RC45 single bolt... http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/pics11-3-03/bigimages/RC45NL5AxleModSide.JPG Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 http://www.reeky.org/gallery/xlax > The holy grail of HRC swingarms are 98 to 99 models which are gold in > color because they are cast > Magnesium which weights in at only 8.2 pounds... mine is unfortunately a > 96 made out of aluminum... so it > weights 11.8 pounds or about the same as stock... so no weight savings > this time... Okay, not to put a damper on a great buy, but really, what does 3.6 pounds gain you? You could get on the treadmill, and take a dump, and that will get you 3.6 pounds. I just don't understand the quest to shave off 3.8 oz through titanium bolts.... > Okay, not to put a damper on a great buy, but really, what does 3.6 pounds > gain you? You could get on the treadmill, and take a dump, and that will > get you 3.6 pounds. > > I just don't understand the quest to shave off 3.8 oz through titanium > bolts.... If it was just 3.8 oz. it wouldn't make any difference. But by the time you go through every part on the bike with a view towards saving weight, it can add up to a significant weight difference. *Especially* if it's unsprung weight that you're saving! Pete >> The holy grail of HRC swingarms are 98 to 99 models which are gold in >> color because they are cast [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I just don't understand the quest to shave off 3.8 oz through titanium > bolts.... The ones that go the last mile, are the lightest, and fastest. But if hes not racing, then yea...  Signature1984 RZ350 > Okay, not to put a damper on a great buy, but really, what does 3.6 pounds > gain you? You could get on the treadmill, and take a dump, and that will get > you 3.6 pounds. Up side of reducing the weight of your suspension components... is that it will allow the suspension to react quicker to the surface irregularities... the down side is a harsher ride... and I would gladly trade comfort for control any day... Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 http://www.reeky.org/gallery/xlax > > Okay, not to put a damper on a great buy, but really, what does 3.6 pounds > > gain you? You could get on the treadmill, and take a dump, and that will get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > side is a harsher ride... and I would gladly trade comfort for control any > day... Couldn't you get the same improvement in sprung to unsprung weight by just increasing the sprung weight of the bike and/or rider ? I think this is the approach that Harley took. > Nice deal, but what's the benefit over the stock one. Lighter? > Stronger? Both? There are many HRC kit swingarms however what they share in common is a different attach point for the pro link arm and double titanium pinch bolts... this affords the shock a more one to one ratio for rigors of racing... I'll have to complete an engineering study... with the help of Tony Foale's book... in order to know what to machine for the successful mating of my current Ohlins... The holy grail of HRC swingarms are 98 to 99 models which are gold in color because they are cast Magnesium which weights in at only 8.2 pounds... mine is unfortunately a 96 made out of aluminum... so it weights 11.8 pounds or about the same as stock... so no weight savings this time... I'd sheets m' drawers if I ever came across an genuine HRC magnesium swingarm... I keep a special fund on standby just in case.. HRC twin bolt... http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/HRCSwingarm.JPG Stock RC45 single bolt... http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/pics11-3-03/bigimages/RC45NL5AxleModSide.JPG Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 http://www.reeky.org/gallery/xlax > > Nice deal, but what's the benefit over the stock one. Lighter? > > Stronger? Both? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I'd sheets m' drawers if I ever came across an genuine HRC magnesium swingarm... > I keep a special fund on standby just in case.. I'm surprised you haven't machined your own magnesium swingarm in the BLS yet! -- Rayvan >> > Nice deal, but what's the benefit over the stock one. Lighter? >> > Stronger? Both? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >I'm surprised you haven't machined your own magnesium swingarm in the >BLS yet! I was thinking the same thing!!! Come on larry, I am dissapointed now!!! =) I would be happy to make the model for ya ;) >>Nice deal, but what's the benefit over the stock one. Lighter? >>Stronger? Both? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I'd sheets m' drawers if I ever came across an genuine HRC magnesium swingarm... > I keep a special fund on standby just in case.. Is it a good idea to put a hunk of magnesium so close to an engine? Could you achieve similar weight savings with titanium? > Is it a good idea to put a hunk of magnesium so close to an engine? > > Could you achieve similar weight savings with titanium? There have been a number of successes producing whole engines out of magnesium... Titanium piece that size would be prohibitly expensive even for Honda... Larry L 94 RC45 #2 Have a wheelie NICE day... Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life... If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust... V4'S are music to the seat of my pants... 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk... Yank and bank your brains loose... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/ http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/ http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 http://www.reeky.org/gallery/xlax Strictly speaking magnesium-aluminum alloy - about 2/3 the weight of real aluminum. (Aluminium in the UK and other parts of the Commonwealth) I believe the titanium we see more and more of is also alloyed with aluminum but I could be wrong. As for machining magnesium alloys - best left to the experts :) Rob >> Is it a good idea to put a hunk of magnesium so close to an engine? >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2 > http://www.reeky.org/gallery/xlax >>>Nice deal, but what's the benefit over the stock one. Lighter? >>>Stronger? Both? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Is it a good idea to put a hunk of magnesium so close to an engine? Hehe... most aviation turboshaft/turboprop engines have magnesium gear boxes... so, yeah... it's no biggie... > Could you achieve similar weight savings with titanium? Not practically. Ti6-4 isn't lighter than Aluminum 7075. It's 66% heavier while being about twice as strong. It's also expensive, and MUCH harder to work with, plus it has a terrible tendency for galvanic corrosion and sensitivity to heat treatment. SignatureSteve Keith - in reverse order of procurement: 2003 GSXR750 - Track Queen 2002 Blue Daytona - Retired from track duty after low-side 1983 GS1100ED (GS2) - eBay, rode it to PHX from San Jose via the PCH - sweet! 1993 GSX1100F Fat Kat 1983 GS1100ED (GS1) My wife says: "Buell rhymes with Stool" >Oh what fun it is to shop Ebay... especially when you win an $2000 HRC Swingarm >for $214 delivered... Merry Christmas Mr.RC45... What under the tree for your >bike??? >http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/Mr.RC45HRCSwingarm.JPG Hahaha nice pic!!! I like that =) >Oh what fun it is to shop Ebay... especially when you win an $2000 HRC Swingarm >for $214 delivered... Merry Christmas Mr.RC45... What under the tree for your >bike??? >http://www.fox302.com/userdata/netters2/files/ShopPics/Mr.RC45HRCSwingarm.JPG Nothing. The Buell is perfect just the way it is.:-) $2000.00 swing arm? Come on Larry. that piece is no nicer than the one Erik designed fpr the Cyclone.:-) Regards Mike |
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