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Why I love traffic cops Part V

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Saddlebag - 28 Mar 2006 04:15 GMT
UNION | Two Union police officers thought they had an impaired driver
- glossy, bloodshot eyes, slurred speech, the smell of alcohol -
when they stopped him on Old Springfield Road for driving 40 mph in a
25 mph zone.

Then they learned it was Montgomery County sheriff's Maj. John Brands,
a childhood neighbor of one of the officers.

They did not ask him to leave the vehicle or give him a sobriety test.

Instead, Officers James Johnston and Jeffrey Smith let Brands drive
home.

Once he was safely home, the officers chatted with him in his driveway
and Brands suggested they apply for a job with the sheriff's office.

Johnston took Brands up on his offer.

"Is it professional courtesy or negligence of duty?" Tim Apolito,
coordinator of Community Relations for the University of Dayton's
Criminal Justice Studies program, asked of the officers' actions - or
inactions.

"It's a hard question to answer because you weren't there," Apolito
said

"You didn't have an alcohol test on the guy. You can't pass judgment
unless the matter is investigated."

The Sept. 18 matter was investigated by Union police and the sheriff's
office.

The Union probe found its officers acted improperly and should have
tested Brands' sobriety; they didn't because of Brands' rank in the
sheriff's office.

The sheriff's office found Brands' conduct improper because he drove
"excessive speeds" after drinking.

The sheriff's report also said, though Brands picked a poor time to
recruit, that did not violate sheriff's policy.

The "unwritten code," Apolito called it: "Giving a fellow officer a
break."

It's rarely documented.

Two reports - and a key memo - give a rare glimpse into the
practice.
Jerry - 28 Mar 2006 10:41 GMT
> UNION | Two Union police officers thought they had an impaired driver
> - glossy, bloodshot eyes, slurred speech, the smell of alcohol -
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> Two reports - and a key memo - give a rare glimpse into the
> practice.

This happens all them time.

Jerry
JM Destin Rogers - 28 Mar 2006 22:21 GMT
Why just traffic cops?  The greatest strength of any department is their
officers.  Conversely, the greatest Achilles heel of any department is
their personnel.

*****************

Former Police Officer to be Sentenced
Posted: 3/26/2006 5:48:06 PM

Former Memphis Police officer John Vaughan, who pleaded guilty to charges of
federal drug conspiracy, will be sentenced on Monday.

Full story:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?M23722FDC
JM Destin Rogers - 28 Mar 2006 22:37 GMT
Ex-deputy pleads in porn case
Iannone faces prison after more than 1,800 images of children found on
computer
Kristen Rasmussen | PensacolaNewsJournal.com
March, 28, 2006  

A former Escambia County deputy who served time in North Carolina for lewd
contact over the Internet with a teenage girl now faces up to five years in
state prison on similar charges here.

Michael Charles Iannone, 67, pleaded no contest on Monday to 1,861 counts of
possession of obscene material.

Full story:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?D2E725FDC
JM Destin Rogers - 28 Mar 2006 22:47 GMT
Former Hinsdale police chief headed to prison
By Associated Press
March 26, 2006          

PITTSFIELD, Mass. - The former police chief of Hinsdale was sentenced to
three months in prison after pleading guilty to multiple charges of fraud
and theft.

Full story:

http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/03262006/south_of/94660.htm
~kurt - 29 Mar 2006 03:49 GMT
> The "unwritten code," Apolito called it: "Giving a fellow officer a
> break."
>
> It's rarely documented.

Hey, it is all about who you know.  That is life.

- Kurt
Brian - 29 Mar 2006 04:00 GMT
>> The "unwritten code," Apolito called it: "Giving a fellow officer a
>> break."
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> - Kurt

I have to agree with you there, and it's not just the police letting off
the police.

When my younger brother was in the military, we were heading back to
camp after a night on the town and got pulled over for speeding. When
the cop asked for ID my brother gave him his army ID....no breathaliser
test, no worries about the lack of warrant and rego, he was just told to
slow down and have a nice night.

Another day the guy driving was doing a series of doughnuts in roadworks
(been drinking, broad daylight) and someone must have phoned the cops.
We were pulled over at the next town, the army ID comes out....a quick
discussion with the cop about being stationed in Singapore (he was
ex-military!), and on our way.

It's not what you know, but who you know.....and when youv'e been in a
'gang' as big as the police or military, sometimes you don't even know
they are your friends until you need their help.
James_ - 29 Mar 2006 04:23 GMT
>>> The "unwritten code," Apolito called it: "Giving a fellow officer a
>>> break."
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> as big as the police or military, sometimes you don't even know they are your
> friends until you need their help.

That military thing sure doesn't work around the towns near bases. At least not
when I was in.
Stephan Rose - 29 Mar 2006 10:10 GMT
>>>> The "unwritten code," Apolito called it: "Giving a fellow officer a
>>>> break."
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>That military thing sure doesn't work around the towns near bases. At least not
>when I was in.

Still holds true today, I have plenty of friends who are / were in the
military and got busted plenty times for speeding and such by the
police. One guy I even know lost rank because he got busted for DUI.

In all cases it was near whatever base they were stationed at.
Saddlebag - 29 Mar 2006 12:24 GMT
> >That military thing sure doesn't work around the towns near bases. At least not
> >when I was in.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> In all cases it was near whatever base they were stationed at.

Not all cops were in the military gang. All cops are in the cop gang.
Enjoy tithing them next time your a few mph over the limit and know
that they are really there "serving and protecting" you dummies.

Meanwhile, freedom fighters like Phil Scott will be thumbing his nose
at the man while you sissies give up your milk money to the
neighborhood bully.
P.Roehling - 29 Mar 2006 22:24 GMT
> UNION | Two Union police officers thought they had an impaired driver
> - glossy, bloodshot eyes, slurred speech, the smell of alcohol -
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> They did not ask him to leave the vehicle or give him a sobriety test.

It's not just cops that get special treatment. One night back when I was
teaching at the University of California, a Uni-Cop caught me on the way to
class doing an honest twenty over the limit, but instantly cut me loose when
he discovered that I was an instructor who was late to class. Frankly, I was
surprised to be let off.

Pete
Stephan Rose - 29 Mar 2006 22:57 GMT
>> UNION | Two Union police officers thought they had an impaired driver
>> - glossy, bloodshot eyes, slurred speech, the smell of alcohol -
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>he discovered that I was an instructor who was late to class. Frankly, I was
>surprised to be let off.

Couple years back when I still had my mustang, in my car-squid days, I
was racing a camaro down US1 in Florida. Doing around 110 mph on a
60mph highway.

In front of me are 3 cars in this configuration...

  *

*

  *

So 1 car in left lane, 2 cars in right lane, I am approaching in left
lane. Barely enough space between the cars to switch lanes.

I didn't even let off the gas...I passed all 3 cars via 2 lane
switches around the middle car at my constant 110 mph..

Unfortunatly for me, the guy in the left lane happened to be an
unmarked undercover cop....took him a few seconds to realize WTF just
happened and recover from shock to turn on his lights.

I pulled over...he got out the car. Introductions were not necessary,
nor was asking me the usual "Do you know why I pulled you over". We
simply skipped those steps.

He actually sort of didn't really know what to say. On one hand, he
really wanted to be mad at me and scream at me. On the other hand, he
couldn't wipe the bigass grin off his face from watching that move I
had just pulled. He visibly was having problems there and was at a
total loss for words...

After a 10 minute chat....I drove home. He let me off...which actually
was the right decision on his part as it marked the end of my
car-squid days. I thought to myself, even the slighest mistake in that
move and all 4 cars would have ended up in one big heap. And I am
never gonna be lucky enough to ever get off something like that again.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6
Saddlebag - 30 Mar 2006 00:21 GMT
> It's not just cops that get special treatment. One night back when I was
> teaching at the University of California, a Uni-Cop caught me on the way to
> class doing an honest twenty over the limit, but instantly cut me loose when
> he discovered that I was an instructor who was late to class. Frankly, I was
> surprised to be let off.

I've told this story before, but I'll tell it again anyway. Twice last
year after a worker buddy of mine got a new ZX-10 he was pulled over by
Dayton cops. The first time he actually was given the ticket. He called
his brother on the force and the cop "lost" it. A few weeks later he
was pulled over again and written a ticket. The cop said he had a right
to contest the ticket in court at which time ZX-10 guy says "yeah I
know, officer xxx is my brother. The cop looked at him and says "Well
why didn't you say so before I wasted all this time writing this up?"
Afterwhich he tore up the ticket and told him to ride safely.

How many times do you suppose THAT kind of treatment is given to Joe
taxpayer?

You probably lucked out because his radar didn't latch the reading.
P.Roehling - 30 Mar 2006 02:01 GMT
>> It's not just cops that get special treatment. One night back when I was
>> teaching at the University of California, a Uni-Cop caught me on the way
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> You probably lucked out because his radar didn't latch the reading.

No, I got off because I was a professor. The *students* are the ones who get
the tickets.
I figure that it all balances out in the long run, as I've got one or two
tickets over the years that I *didn't* deserve!

Pete
Saddlebag - 30 Mar 2006 03:30 GMT
> >> It's not just cops that get special treatment. One night back when I was
> >> teaching at the University of California, a Uni-Cop caught me on the way
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> No, I got off because I was a professor.

I see, "uni-cop" didn't initially register.
 
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