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WD40 - 28 Mar 2006 23:40 GMT
What kind of modification is required on a fairing if I want to buy frame
sliders because I don't want to hurt my baby you know what I mean. Thanks.
WD40 - 28 Mar 2006 23:53 GMT
forgot to mention the baby I have is a 2003 Yamaha R6

> What kind of modification is required on a fairing if I want to buy frame
> sliders because I don't want to hurt my baby you know what I mean. Thanks.
Stephan Rose - 28 Mar 2006 23:54 GMT
>What kind of modification is required on a fairing if I want to buy frame
>sliders because I don't want to hurt my baby you know what I mean. Thanks.

Well you are gonna have to hurt it!!! Ok...maybe.

Depends on the bike and on the sliders.

Some bikes you can mount sliders without needing to cut a hole in the
fairing.

Some bikes you can't.

Also some sliders are mounted with a bracket that relocates the slider
in such a way that you don't need to cut the fairing such as the
sliders on my bike, see picture below for an example:

http://www.somrek.net/DSC_0025.jpg

As you see the slider is mounted on a bracket and no fairing needed to
be cut.

Another pic here from the other side:

http://www.somrek.net/DSC_0031.jpg

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Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6
WD40 - 29 Mar 2006 00:00 GMT
Those are very nice pics. I have the same bike but blue. What is the name of
the company your sliders made from?

>>What kind of modification is required on a fairing if I want to buy frame
>>sliders because I don't want to hurt my baby you know what I mean. Thanks.
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> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
Stephan Rose - 29 Mar 2006 00:04 GMT
>Those are very nice pics. I have the same bike but blue. What is the name of
>the company your sliders made from?

Thank you, as far as the company goes. I honestly don't know. The bike
came with those sliders when I bought it. I will check tomorrow
morning if I can find any kind of part number, sticker, logo, anything
on them and if I do, I will let you know.

Oh by the way if you could, please put responses at the bottom not at
the top. =)

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Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6
P.Roehling - 29 Mar 2006 00:09 GMT
> What kind of modification is required on a fairing if I want to buy frame
> sliders because I don't want to hurt my baby you know what I mean. Thanks.

You generally have to cut holes in the fairing for the sliders to protrude
through. (Sliders that hide under the fairing won't do you much good.)
Note: not all bikes were designed with slider installation in mind. It's
almost an impossible job on some bikes.

Pete
Troy the Troll - 29 Mar 2006 00:35 GMT
> What kind of modification is required on a fairing if I want to buy frame
> sliders because I don't want to hurt my baby you know what I mean. Thanks.

Why would your baby ever require sliders? You plan on throwing the child
from a moving car?
Bryan - 29 Mar 2006 01:58 GMT
> What kind of modification is required on a fairing if I want to buy frame
> sliders because I don't want to hurt my baby you know what I mean. Thanks.

I just cut holes in f4i for sliders, it isn't hard.  You just need to be
careful.

But I don't think the Yamaha require any cutting, you can get an "offset"
slider.  I've seen them on R1s.

Bryan
Stephan Rose - 29 Mar 2006 10:07 GMT
>> What kind of modification is required on a fairing if I want to buy frame
>> sliders because I don't want to hurt my baby you know what I mean. Thanks.
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>But I don't think the Yamaha require any cutting, you can get an "offset"
>slider.  I've seen them on R1s.

Yup I have those on my R6 as well. Just no idea yet who actually makes
them =)
G C - 29 Mar 2006 14:42 GMT
>>>What kind of modification is required on a fairing if I want to buy frame
>>>sliders because I don't want to hurt my baby you know what I mean. Thanks.
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> Yup I have those on my R6 as well. Just no idea yet who actually makes
> them =)

The 1st time you lay down on the offset sliders, you will wish you cut
the fairing. They are weak. The force exerted on a standard slider
(which sometimes fail) are multiplied by the offset adapter. Those are
really only good if you knock it over in the garage. (And they will bend
then, too)
Slders don't always save your plastic. My last low side was going
swimmingly until the bike hit the rumble strip and started to flip.
Bad things happen. Either have the ability to repair or have good ins.

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Stephan Rose - 29 Mar 2006 16:07 GMT
>>>>What kind of modification is required on a fairing if I want to buy frame
>>>>sliders because I don't want to hurt my baby you know what I mean. Thanks.
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>swimmingly until the bike hit the rumble strip and started to flip.
>Bad things happen. Either have the ability to repair or have good ins.

That is my concern honestly as well with those sliders, though I have
to say when I looked at how these were installed, I was reasonably
impressed. The offset actually is not that far and they are very
strongly reinforced from behind and they appear to be connected to the
frame and engine at multiple points.

I don't see a simple drop in the garage bending these.

Nothing of course can protect a bike from hitting an object in a low
side and flipping. At least we don't have speed bumps or rumble strips
here =)

Really around here where I live, I am more worried about guard rails
in the event of a low side than the low-side itself. Most the roads
are country roads so chances are good that the bike wouldn't spend
much time, if even any, sliding on the asphalt. It would end up in the
grass rather quickly unless of course there is a guard rail in the way
ready to stop the bike...and me. That is why on many of the guard
rails here you find foam padding around the posts so riders don't cut
off their legs or other body parts...

http://www.somrek.net/DSCF0037.jpg

On the other hand the way I see it, if you actually adhere to speed
limits, the road signs warning you of the sharp turn ahead and lower
your speed to the posted limit for the turn accordingly, chances of a
low-side are reasonably non-existant without external influences such
as oil / excessive gravel or such.

Bottom line, repair ability, insurance, frame sliders, all are great.
Riding safely and like a sane person is better.
 
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