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Stuck in another damn HARDLEY parade...

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Troy the Troll - 24 Apr 2006 04:03 GMT
So I go for a ride, and just as I start up a nice canyon road near the
house, what is happening? An entire parade of Hardleys is coming from a side
road ( must have been a big chrome polishing convention or something), and
headed up the same canyon I am. As I draw closer to the side road, they stop
and wait for me and the cages behind me, and after we pass, they continue
filing out onto the road behind us.

Damn. I've done this before, but its been awhile, so I have hope. Stupid me.
Stuck behind a FatMan/IdiotGlide/UltraStupid or whatever other silly names
they call these things, I am stunned by the demeanor of the rider in front
of me, who, at the breakneck speed of 25 mph, is requiring several course
corrections per corner.

Lets set the stage, its a marked 35mph road which twists and turns its way
out of the Front Range back into the mountains, and is nice for many miles.
The road, taken at twice the posted speed, is an excellent sportbike road.
Taken 10mph under the speed limit, it is a stunning location to watch two
wheeled ineptitude.

This guy leans the Hardley a degree...maybe 2. Realizing that at the
breakneck speed of 25 mph he might actually move closer to one side of the
road or another doing this...he then straightens up the bike. Goes another
30 feet. Dips the bike a degree or two again...comes vertical again. Repeat
as necessary...corner after corner.

In several corners this technique doesn't keep him where he wants to be, and
he drifts wide. Rather than using degree angles 3 and 4, he slows down to 15
mph to negotiate the deadly and thrilling corners. Except now of course we
all might as well be WALKING.....

I wanted to puke. 5 miles up the road and 15 minutes later I take the first
dirt road I can find and ride up some canyon I haven't seen in forever just
to be somewhere else. Lets here it for adventure bikes allowing us to do
this...if I had the sv on its race tires, I wouldn't have attempted this
"escape from idiots" maneuver.
gamblinrodger@netscape.net - 24 Apr 2006 12:13 GMT
> So I go fishing and....

(snip)

0.5 on the patented troll-o-meter.  Take it to RMH if you're SO pissed
off.
Troy the Troll - 24 Apr 2006 15:06 GMT
>> So I go fishing and....
>
> (snip)
>
> 0.5 on the patented troll-o-meter.  Take it to RMH if you're SO pissed
> off.

What are you talking about, trolling? There was a parade, I got stuck in it,
it was irritating, and it has happened before. If it bothers you, too bad.
And who the hell is RMH and what do they have to do with sportbikes?
willarush@netscape.net - 24 Apr 2006 17:36 GMT
> >> So I go fishing and....
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> What are you talking about, trolling?

Heh.  Goooooooood one.  Much better than your first effort.

Here's yer hook back.
Binder Dundat - 24 Apr 2006 17:54 GMT
> What are you talking about, trolling? There was a parade, I got stuck in it,
> it was irritating, and it has happened before. If it bothers you, too bad.
> And who the hell is RMH and what do they have to do with sportbikes?

Rec.motorcycle.harley? You could go there and troll the Harley riders
to find out why they like to do their relaxing slow putt down the road
instead of pretending the road is a racetrack.

Trolls want attention and you call yourself "Troy the Troll" and wonder
why you get accused of trolling?

Personally, I ride my own ride, and if somebody starts overtaking me
because he wants to violate the law and play Rickey Racer on public
roads, I will pull over and let him go by, hoping a cop will pull him
over.

But the Harley guys you're complaining seem to have already yielded to
you. Some of them got out of your way and let you go by, didn't they?

I have been out for a ride on my sportbike on roads where I knew there
would be a cop waiting for speeders and I let the Harley riders go
ahead of me. Some of those guys were riding faster than the speed limit
on that scenic road, but they didn't get stopped.

They passed cars where they found them, too, over the double yellow
line, just like a sport rider would. And they were riding a variety of
Harleys, from dressers to Sportsters.

A lot of Harley riders are very aware of what's going on behind them
and they will see me coming for a mile back and they will move over.
Other times, it's a woman riding and she's worried she can't keep up
with her male friend and she's concentrating on what's ahead and not
watching her mirrors that much.

I came up behind a parade of Harleys once and was passing them all at
90 MPH when I saw I wasn't going to get by the whole bunch due to
oncoming traffic.

As I tried to duck into the parade, a female rider moved over to block
me. I doubt that she did it intentionally though. I dropped into the
parade behind her and then finished my passing when it was clear.

After it was all over, it was *over*, I didn't try to start an Us
versus Them *war* over my own mistake.
Troy the Troll - 25 Apr 2006 01:40 GMT
>> What are you talking about, trolling? There was a parade, I got stuck in
>> it,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> to find out why they like to do their relaxing slow putt down the road
> instead of pretending the road is a racetrack.

I tried that years ago...it was boring. Not a sense of humor among the whole
lot.

> Trolls want attention and you call yourself "Troy the Troll" and wonder
> why you get accused of trolling?

No...someone else called me ttt and I liked it....people superficial enough
to actually BELIEVE it because they don't pay attention is still surprising.

> Personally, I ride my own ride, and if somebody starts overtaking me
> because he wants to violate the law and play Rickey Racer on public
> roads, I will pull over and let him go by, hoping a cop will pull him
> over.

I do the same. And I haven't done much in the way of "Ricky Racing" for
quite some time. But I know people who do. Some of them are splattered or
dead of course, but thats pretty much par for the course I figure.

> But the Harley guys you're complaining seem to have already yielded to
> you. Some of them got out of your way and let you go by, didn't they?

No. They were waiting at an intersection, didn't pull out in front of me,
but came in behind me. I caught the two or three in front of me within 100
yards and got stuck there.

> After it was all over, it was *over*, I didn't try to start an Us
> versus Them *war* over my own mistake.

My beef primarily lies with the fact that every time it happens, I am
stunned by the raging incompetence displayed at speeds well under the speed
limit. Not that idiot stunna squidlings don't do the same thing, except in a
different way, but holy crap, you would have thought that SOMEONE would have
taught them to ride, SOMETIME.
Bryan - 25 Apr 2006 02:59 GMT
> My beef primarily lies with the fact that every time it happens, I am
> stunned by the raging incompetence displayed at speeds well under the
> speed limit. Not that idiot stunna squidlings don't do the same thing,
> except in a different way, but holy crap, you would have thought that
> SOMEONE would have taught them to ride, SOMETIME.

Funny that.  I rode up to Alta Sunday, my goal was to just ride smooth, no
brakes.  I could have passed anything, anytime in Little Cottonwood.  But
why?

Smooth, controlled, nothing to prove here.

I can't believe they didn't wave you to pass, you know a little lane
sharing...

Bryan
Troy the Troll - 25 Apr 2006 03:36 GMT
> I can't believe they didn't wave you to pass, you know a little lane
> sharing...
>
> Bryan

It wouldn't have worked...there were other cages they had trapped in their
parade so they would have had to let me pass as well, and non local cagers
around here aren't any more polite than this Hardley brigade appeared
competent.
_Bob Nixon_ - 24 Apr 2006 18:29 GMT
>>> So I go fishing and....
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>it was irritating, and it has happened before. If it bothers you, too bad.
>And who the hell is RMH and what do they have to do with sportbikes?

Troy! See what this group is turning into? It's filled with Harley
lovers, so politically correct that they'll even defend the gross riding
style="cattle herd"  & incompetent="neophyte50 year olds" riding  you
just described-:(

It's a sick upside down people  we Mercans are becoming.

Bob Nixon,"riding with a prosthetic leg & going on 61"
01 Sprint ST "RED" 53K "bought original"
Chandler,AZ with 330+ days of sunshine per year.
"life if dealing with the cards one is dealt and not whining about it"
http://bigrex.net/pictures/TTF-11-26-05/Bob_TTF_11-26-05.jpg
http://bigrex.net/pictures
Steve Mackay - 24 Apr 2006 19:56 GMT
>>>> So I go fishing and....
>>> (snip)
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> It's a sick upside down people  we Mercans are becoming.

<gasp> Amazing that some of us respect other riders. Try it sometime,
you may get the same in return.

> Bob Nixon,"riding with a prosthetic leg & going on 61"
> 01 Sprint ST "RED" 53K "bought original"
> Chandler,AZ with 330+ days of sunshine per year.
> "life if dealing with the cards one is dealt and not whining about it"
> http://bigrex.net/pictures/TTF-11-26-05/Bob_TTF_11-26-05.jpg
> http://bigrex.net/pictures

I see you still can't figure out how to properly do a sig.
_Bob Nixon_ - 25 Apr 2006 01:06 GMT
>>>>> So I go fishing and....
>>>> (snip)
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
><gasp> Amazing that some of us respect other riders. Try it sometime,
>you may get the same in return.

Why should I? This ain't tennis or golf were talking about but a
potentially deadly mode of transport or sport. Seems YOUR cruiser riding
pals are the worst offenders in THINKING before taking the necessary
steps (training & riding strategy) to prevent their own death, injury or
just respecting other folks out on the road, while riding in 1 mile
parade formation and having the gall to expect others give their huge
"slow moving" unbroken trains the right of way..

>> Bob Nixon,"riding with a prosthetic leg & going on 61"
>> 01 Sprint ST "RED" 53K "bought original"
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>I see you still can't figure out how to properly do a sig.

I'll do my sig as I please there Mr. Haldley Abelson lover; in a sport
bike group.

Bob Nixon,"riding with a prosthetic leg & going on 61"
01 Sprint ST "RED" 53K "bought original"
Chandler,AZ with 330+ days of sunshine per year.
"life if dealing with the cards one is dealt and not whining about it"
http://bigrex.net/pictures/TTF-11-26-05/Bob_TTF_11-26-05.jpg
http://bigrex.net/pictures
Bryan - 25 Apr 2006 02:10 GMT
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:56:39 GMT, Steve Mackay <steve_mackay@hotmil.com>

<snip sig etiquette bs>

Bob has NEVER top posted!  His sig is well within norm...

Now if you want to do a SPELL check, go for it.

Sheeesh.  I'll ride with Bob anytime and I hope I get the chance.

Bryan
Steve Mackay - 25 Apr 2006 02:52 GMT
>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:56:39 GMT, Steve Mackay <steve_mackay@hotmil.com>
>
> <snip sig etiquette bs>
>
> Bob has NEVER top posted!

Never claimed he did.<shrug>

> His sig is well within norm...

To a clueless newbie, sure... A proper SIG shouldn't show up when
replying. It's simple... <minus sign><minus sign><space><CR><CR>

> Now if you want to do a SPELL check, go for it.

Naah.

> Sheeesh.  I'll ride with Bob anytime and I hope I get the chance.
>
> Bryan

For the most part, I don't have a problem with Bob. But when he goes in
to cowardly, rapid lap dog mode, is when he is irritating.

Signature

This is a sig with a proper delimiter.

Bryan - 25 Apr 2006 03:08 GMT
> To a clueless newbie, sure... A proper SIG shouldn't show up when
> replying. It's simple... <minus sign><minus sign><space><CR><CR>

Hehe. Touche, you are one anal, old fart a.shole...  Please give us a lesson
on the in /outs of regular expressions...

Please forgive Bob for not remembering some bizarre ascii sequence.   You
must be French.

Bryan
Steve Mackay - 25 Apr 2006 03:59 GMT
>> To a clueless newbie, sure... A proper SIG shouldn't show up when
>> replying. It's simple... <minus sign><minus sign><space><CR><CR>
>
> Hehe. Touche, you are one anal, old fart a.shole...  

Old fart, not quite yet :)
a.shole maybe.
Anal, definitely not.

Just bostin' bobbie's chops. He gives it out enough, he certainly
deserves to get it in return.

> Please give us a lesson
> on the in /outs of regular expressions...

That's not regular expression. And I've given out enough lessons for
today :)

> Please forgive Bob for not remembering some bizarre ascii sequence.   You
> must be French.

Not much. IIRC an 1/8th. Mostly Irish and American Indian.
_Bob Nixon_ - 25 Apr 2006 07:09 GMT
[....]

>For the most part, I don't have a problem with Bob. But when he goes in
>to cowardly, rapid lap dog mode, is when he is irritating.

Cowardly!  Your chicken sh.t SOB a.s would be DEAD if you'd been through
half of what I have, you know nothing, never experienced anything tough
in your life, looser;)

Bob Nixon,"riding with a prosthetic leg & going on 61"
01 Sprint ST "RED" 53K "bought original"
Chandler,AZ with 330+ days of sunshine per year.
"life if dealing with the cards one is dealt and not whining about it"
http://bigrex.net/pictures/TTF-11-26-05/Bob_TTF_11-26-05.jpg
http://bigrex.net/pictures
Steve Mackay - 25 Apr 2006 13:34 GMT
> [....]
>
>> For the most part, I don't have a problem with Bob. But when he goes in
>> to cowardly, rapid lap dog mode, is when he is irritating.
>
> Cowardly!

Yup, you hide behind your computer being the rabid lap dog.

> Your chicken sh.t SOB a.s would be DEAD if you'd been through
> half of what I have, you know nothing, never experienced anything tough
> in your life, looser;)

See, this is where your ignorance and arrogance gets in the way. You
know NOTHING about me.
picachorider@yahoo.com - 27 Apr 2006 03:47 GMT
> [....]
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> half of what I have, you know nothing, never experienced anything tough
> in your life, looser;)

Oh, I don't know.  I'm pretty sure I've been through half of what you
have, and it sure made me looser.  You, otoh, seem to have gotten
considerably tighter!
Steve Mackay - 25 Apr 2006 02:45 GMT
>>>>>> So I go fishing and....
>>>>> (snip)
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Why should I?

Why should *ANYONE* show respect to some pathetic, whiny a.s bitch such
as you?

> This ain't tennis or golf were talking about but a
> potentially deadly mode of transport or sport.

Wow, give 'lil bobbie a medal for over stating the obvious.

> Seems YOUR cruiser riding
> pals are the worst offenders in THINKING before taking the necessary
> steps (training & riding strategy) to prevent their own death, injury or
> just respecting other folks out on the road, while riding in 1 mile
> parade formation and having the gall to expect others give their huge
> "slow moving" unbroken trains the right of way..

You're just a stereotyping. The fact of the matter is every group of
rider has it's good and bad ones. One of the guys I ride with, his
favorite saying.. "Sportbike guys just get in my way". And it's entirely
true in his case.

But you're too f.cking pig headed and bigoted to realize not every
Hardley rider matches your lame a.s stereotype.

The mind is a parachute bobbie, it doesn't work until it's open.

>>> Bob Nixon,"riding with a prosthetic leg & going on 61"
>>> 01 Sprint ST "RED" 53K "bought original"
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I'll do my sig as I please there Mr. Haldley Abelson lover; in a sport
> bike group.

Here's a hint...
http://www.netmeister.org/news/usenet/usenet.html#SECTION00064000000000000000
4 simple characters would fix your sig.

On a more civil note, I'm glad to see a Triumph 675 racing at RA this
past weekend, I wish I could have made it there.

I hope they let the 675s in Thunderbike, and FX.

http://www.ccsracing.us/results/2006/042306%20ASRA%20Rd%20Am.htm
Tweak - 25 Apr 2006 13:34 GMT
> On a more civil note, I'm glad to see a Triumph 675 racing at RA this
> past weekend, I wish I could have made it there.

Alright, now you have hit my hot button topic.

RA.  What is RA?  Would that be Road America or Road Atlanta?
Signature

Tweak

Steve Mackay - 25 Apr 2006 13:34 GMT
>> On a more civil note, I'm glad to see a Triumph 675 racing at RA this
>> past weekend, I wish I could have made it there.
>>
> Alright, now you have hit my hot button topic.
>
> RA.  What is RA?  Would that be Road America or Road Atlanta?
Road America
Troy the Troll - 25 Apr 2006 01:41 GMT
> It's a sick upside down people  we Mercans are becoming.

Thats because the average Americun is gettin browner by the minute Bob!
Bryan - 25 Apr 2006 02:14 GMT
>> It's a sick upside down people  we Mercans are becoming.
>
> Thats because the average Americun is gettin browner by the minute Bob!

Proper UKRM spelling is "Merkin", or so I hope.  Please correct my
misspelling.

Bryan
P.Roehling - 24 Apr 2006 21:00 GMT
> 0.5 on the patented troll-o-meter.  Take it to RMH if you're SO pissed
> off.

Uh, his nom-de-post *is* Troy the Troll . . . and he's welcome to post here
all he wants to.

Besides, I was once caught behind a procession of geriatric Hardley riders
who were proceeding so slowly that they were actually holding up a loaded
school bus on a mountain road.

You can't get a lot slower than that unless you're at a dead stop.

Pete
gamblinrodger@netscape.net - 24 Apr 2006 22:30 GMT
> > 0.5 on the patented troll-o-meter.  Take it to RMH if you're SO pissed
> > off.
>
> Uh, his nom-de-post *is* Troy the Troll . . . and he's welcome to post here
> all he wants to.

'Course he is; this is Usenet.  How many Harley riders does he expect
to rehabilitate with his rant in AMS?    But, he hasn't the balls to
confront the objects of his ire where they hang in the cyberworld.
Maybe he's just a LITTLE troll.

> Besides, I was once caught behind a procession of geriatric Hardley riders
> who were proceeding so slowly that they were actually holding up a loaded
> school bus on a mountain road.
>
> You can't get a lot slower than that unless you're at a dead stop.

I was held up by a bunch of sportbike riders once on my way up to
Alice's.  Of course, they at least had the good grace to be embarassed
when they saw me in their mirrors.  They sped up, but they were still
holding me up.  Bastards wouldn't move over, either.  Goddamn slowass
sportbikers!
Mike - 24 Apr 2006 23:28 GMT
>> > 0.5 on the patented troll-o-meter.  Take it to RMH if you're SO pissed
>> > off.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>holding me up.  Bastards wouldn't move over, either.  damn slowass
>sportbikers!

LOL!

Regards

Mike

http://www.geocities.com/mfell2112/Dodge_Ram.html
P.Roehling - 25 Apr 2006 01:01 GMT
> 'Course he is; this is Usenet.  How many Harley riders does he expect
> to rehabilitate with his rant in AMS?

Uh, why would Troy want to "rehabilitate" anyone? Then he'd have one less
target.

>  But, he hasn't the balls to
> confront the objects of his ire where they hang in the cyberworld.

Sorry, but it doesn't take any "balls" to post on usenet with a psudonym.
Just a mild sense of humor and a willingness to stick a pin in a few
over-inflated egos.

> Maybe he's just a LITTLE troll.

No, over the years he's proven to be pretty good at his job. He netted
*you*, after all.

>> Besides, I was once caught behind a procession of geriatric Hardley
>> riders
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I was held up by a bunch of sportbike riders once on my way up to
> Alice's.

Everybody knows how sport-bikers are always blocking Harley riders. Happens
every day . . .

Pete
Troy the Troll - 25 Apr 2006 01:45 GMT
>> 'Course he is; this is Usenet.  How many Harley riders does he expect
>> to rehabilitate with his rant in AMS?
>
> Uh, why would Troy want to "rehabilitate" anyone? Then he'd have one less
> target.

You betcha!

> Everybody knows how sport-bikers are always blocking Harley riders.
> Happens every day . . .

Is that the excuse the factory Buell people are using now? "IF THOSE DAMN
SUZUKI PRIVATEERS WOULD JUST LET US BY WE COULD CHASE SOME HONDA
PRIVATEERS!"
picachorider@yahoo.com - 27 Apr 2006 03:38 GMT
> > Maybe he's just a LITTLE troll.
>
> No, over the years he's proven to be pretty good at his job. He netted
> *you*, after all.

Bet he threw him back, too!
P.Roehling - 27 Apr 2006 21:22 GMT
>> > Maybe he's just a LITTLE troll.
>>
>> No, over the years he's proven to be pretty good at his job. He netted
>> *you*, after all.
>
> Bet he threw him back, too!

Probably. Troy's an old pro at this sort of thing.

Pete
picachorider@yahoo.com - 27 Apr 2006 03:41 GMT
> > I was held up by a bunch of sportbike riders once on my way up to
> > Alice's.
>
> Everybody knows how sport-bikers are always blocking Harley riders. Happens
> every day . . .

How did you know that Rodger was riding a Harley?  Were you with him?
P.Roehling - 27 Apr 2006 21:21 GMT
>> Everybody knows how sport-bikers are always blocking Harley riders.
>> Happens
>> every day . . .
>
> How did you know that Rodger was riding a Harley?  Were you with him?

Well, I *could* be wrong, but there's a certain attitude that frequently
goes along with owning a Harley, and you'll note that Rodger didn't jump
right in here and claim to have been riding a Yamaha . . .  Besides, on the
few occasions when I've seen cruisers blocking traffic they have invariably
been Harleys.

Coincidence? You decide.

Pete (And no, I'm not particularly anti-Harley. My first real bike was an
old Harley 80, and that was clear back in 1960. I have fond memories of
fixing that bike.)
Troy the Troll - 25 Apr 2006 01:44 GMT
>> > 0.5 on the patented troll-o-meter.  Take it to RMH if you're SO pissed
>> > off.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> 'Course he is; this is Usenet.  How many Harley riders does he expect
> to rehabilitate with his rant in AMS?

How silly of you to think I want to rehabiliatate ANYONE. It would be nice
if Hardley riders would learn how to ride a little better than the displays
I usually see. But rehabilitate? Please. Its like trying to unteach stupid.

>But, he hasn't the balls to
> confront the objects of his ire where they hang in the cyberworld.
> Maybe he's just a LITTLE troll.

Whats the point? I'm not a troll. Pay attention already...even some of the
idiot stunna's who pop in here occasionally are smart enough to figure that
out, and most of them are retarded.
Bryan - 25 Apr 2006 02:20 GMT
> Whats the point? I'm not a troll. Pay attention already...even some of the
> idiot stunna's who pop in here occasionally are smart enough to figure
> that out, and most of them are retarded.

Hehe. good one Troy, "I am not a Troll."  Perhaps you need to change the
sig.?

Something like, "Troy, the underbridge dweller."  Sheesh.

Bryan
Saddlebag - 28 Apr 2006 00:54 GMT
> > Whats the point? I'm not a troll. Pay attention already...even some of the
> > idiot stunna's who pop in here occasionally are smart enough to figure
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Something like, "Troy, the underbridge dweller."  Sheesh.

So you've seen his portraits?:

http://www.members.aol.com/saddlebag/TTT1.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/saddlebag/TTT2.jpg
Troy the Troll - 28 Apr 2006 01:47 GMT
>> > Whats the point? I'm not a troll. Pay attention already...even some of
>> > the
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> http://www.members.aol.com/saddlebag/TTT1.jpg
> http://www.members.aol.com/saddlebag/TTT2.jpg

I like it.
Jamin - 30 Apr 2006 21:37 GMT
>> So you've seen his portraits?:
>>
>> http://www.members.aol.com/saddlebag/TTT1.jpg
>> http://www.members.aol.com/saddlebag/TTT2.jpg
>
> I like it.

Good pics Saddle. Perfect timing on whipping those out. :)

Troy, that's Andrew climbing on your head in the 2nd shot, I believe.

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Jamin
"I don't want a pickle..."

Larry xlax Lovisone - 25 Apr 2006 02:21 GMT
> I was held up by a bunch of sportbike riders once on my way up to
> Alice's.  Of course, they at least had the good grace to be embarassed
> when they saw me in their mirrors.  They sped up, but they were still
> holding me up.  Bastards wouldn't move over, either.  Goddamn slowass
> sportbikers!

I'm one of those sportbike riders who frequents Alices... and the rule of the
road is... fast movers don't follow slow movers... so why didn't you pull the
trigger on your throttle and pass???

Larry L
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humanid - 28 Apr 2006 16:21 GMT
>> So I go fishing and....
>
> (snip)
>
> 0.5 on the patented troll-o-meter.  Take it to RMH if you're SO pissed
> off.

What's a Harley guy doing reading this newsgroup? I
posted this from the net to Rec Motorcycles, where it went
over pretty well. Some of them accused me of trolling too,
but it's damn funny so take your sensibilities elsewhere.

I raced a Harley today and after some really hard riding I managed to PASS the guy. I was riding on one of those really, really
twisting sections of canyon road with no straight sections to speak of and where most of the curves have warning signs that say "15
MPH".

I knew if I was going to pass one of those monsters with those big-cubic-inch motors, it would have to be a place like this where
handling and rider skill are more important than horsepower alone.

I saw the guy up ahead as I exited one of the turns and knew I could catch him, but it wouldn't be easy. I concentrated on my
braking and cornering. three corners later, I was on his fender. Catching him was one thing; passing him would prove to be another.

Two corners later, I pulled up next to him as we sailed down the mountain. I think he was shocked to see me next to him, as I nearly
got by him before he could recover. Next corner, same thing. I'd manage to pull up next to him as we started to enter the corners
but when we came out he'd get on the throttle and outpower me. His horsepower was almost too much to overcome, but this only made me
more determined than ever.

My only hope was to outbrake him. I held off squeezing the lever until the last instant. I kept my nerve while he lost his. In an
instant I was by him. Corner after corner, I could hear the roar of his engine as he struggled to keep up. Three more miles to go
before the road straightens out and he would pass me for good.

But now I was in the lead and he would no longer hold me back. I stretched out my lead and by the time we reached the bottom of the
canyon, he was more than a full corner behind. I could no longer see him in my rear-view mirror.

Once the road did straighten out, it seemed like it took miles before he passed me, but it was probably just a few hundred yards. I
was no match for that kind of horsepower, but it was done. In the tightest section of road, where bravery and skill count for more
than horsepower and deep pockets, I had passed him. though it was not easy, I had won the race to the bottom of the canyon and I had
preserved the proud tradition of another of America's best bikes.

I will always remember that moment. I don't think I've ever pedaled so hard in my life. And some of the credit must go to Schwinn,
as well. They really make a great bicycle...
gamblinrodger@netscape.net - 30 Apr 2006 21:53 GMT
> >> So I go fishing and....
> >
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>
> What's a Harley guy doing reading this newsgroup?

I know what a troll is, but wtf is a "Harley guy"?
Troy the Troll - 30 Apr 2006 22:39 GMT
>> >> So I go fishing and....
>> >
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>
> I know what a troll is, but wtf is a "Harley guy"?

Someone who thinks a couch on wheels without the ability to out accelerate a
loaded school bus is a good thing.
rides_the_wind - 24 Apr 2006 12:36 GMT
> So I go for a ride, and just as I start up a nice canyon road near the
> house, what is happening? An entire parade of Hardleys is coming from a side
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> of me, who, at the breakneck speed of 25 mph, is requiring several course
> corrections per corner.

Keep in mind that Hardly incompetency is usually calculated in direct
proportion to the recent consumption of alcohol while riding, minus
brain cells remaining :{

> Lets set the stage, its a marked 35mph road which twists and turns its way
> out of the Front Range back into the mountains, and is nice for many miles.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> this...if I had the sv on its race tires, I wouldn't have attempted this
> "escape from idiots" maneuver.
Larry xlax Lovisone - 24 Apr 2006 20:34 GMT
> So I go for a ride, and just as I start up a nice canyon road near the house,
> what is happening?

It is written... the motorcyle world is split among bikers and riders...  and
the open road is the great mixing bowl... so it helps to understand what each
are thinking...

Bikers bring coolness... we all like cool people who nether hope nor
fear too much... who stand slander very well... whom current events
make little or no impression... they are convinced beyond a doubt
that they are right... who will face death with firmness as trees and
animals do...

Riders test coolness... keep your wits over the most demanding
situation... it is by presence of mind in untried emergencies that the
metal of a rider is tested... if you keep your head when all about are
losing theirs... it's possible you have really grasp the situation more
than just grasping handle bars...

Bikers bring comfort... from a easy chair / foots stool to a bike...
forward controls is a logically choice... their bodies lust for comfort
but in a vanity sort of way... being unaware comfortably...

Riders... comfort is a superfluous thing... a softness that will steal
into your life and become the master... being comfortably aware
that luxury consumes more than it produces...

Bikers... mind not how well you ride... but how well they look at
riding... people can say what they will about riding but they cannot
ride just as they will... their looks frequently reveal what their words
are calculated to conceal... relying on a persona which is meant to
suggest that they are not looking for trouble butwould just as soon
toss a gesture your way as not...

Riders... are a loose knit group who have mastered 51% or better of
their motorcycles ability... they don't care how much a person talks
about their riding... if... they will only say it in a few words...

Bikers bring together heart for others in their own community...
always made up for the individuals who bond together by
locking themselves in by locking others out... the road to their
door is narrow but the gate... once accepted... is wide...

Rider's will may become perverse in quickness... lust may grow
from it... give into the lust and habit is born... fail resisting the
habit and it becomes a necessity... like links to a chain... it's a
force holding them fast as slaves...

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
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Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
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Greg O - 24 Apr 2006 23:29 GMT
> So I go for a ride, and just as I start up a nice canyon road near the
> house, what is happening? An entire parade of Hardleys is coming from a
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> allowing us to do this...if I had the sv on its race tires, I wouldn't
> have attempted this "escape from idiots" maneuver.

At least I got a good laugh the other day when I was idleing down the road
at a leisurely pace, listening to some tunes with my XM radio when this
ding-a-ling on a sport bike comes flying by me. A couple miles down the road
he was parked sideways in a ditch full of water, bits of plastic littering
the road.. I stopped, he said he was ok, so I said "see ya" and left!
Silly squids!

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Andrew - 24 Apr 2006 23:59 GMT
>> So I go for a ride, and just as I start up a nice canyon road near the
>> house, what is happening? An entire parade of Hardleys is coming from a
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> the road.. I stopped, he said he was ok, so I said "see ya" and left!
> Silly squids!

That wouldn't have happened had you been listening to Sirius.  :-)

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Saddlebag - 25 Apr 2006 02:34 GMT
> > So I go for a ride, and just as I start up a nice canyon road near the
> > house, what is happening? An entire parade of Hardleys is coming from a
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> the road.. I stopped, he said he was ok, so I said "see ya" and left!
> Silly squids!

I was riding home from work this afternoon listening to my XM radio
maybe a tad above the flow of traffic ~80 mph when I was passed by a
guy on full dresser Harley that must have been pushing the ton. He was
all crouched down with eyes barely over the low windscreen and butt
pushed back in the seat. He seemed to have it pinned for all it was
worth and for a minute I thought about waxing him for giggles, but then
I thought "what the hell, why not let him think he's a sportbiker's
nightmare."

About the time he got a couple of football fields ahead of me I noticed
a traffic cop pass the other direction. Guess he must have been late
for doughnuts with the crew because he never bothered to turn around
and give chase.
Bryan - 25 Apr 2006 02:49 GMT
> I was riding home from work this afternoon listening to my XM radio
> maybe a tad above the flow of traffic ~80 mph when I was passed by a
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> for doughnuts with the crew because he never bothered to turn around
> and give chase.

I was riding from Ely NV to Wendover NV on a early morning in late
September.  The cold wind was blowing down my Joe Rocket jacket, I was a
cold.  So I sat up and held my jacket to chest.  50 mph,
a dude on a Harley passes me, smoking a cig behind his big ole fairing.

Well, that does it, f.ck the cold, 90mph, I didn't let him get away, but I
was freezing my a.s off, so I never bothered to pass.  Nothing but dead jack
rabbits on the road.

Harleys have their place.

Bryan
Jerry - 25 Apr 2006 13:04 GMT
>> > So I go for a ride, and just as I start up a nice canyon road near the
>> > house, what is happening? An entire parade of Hardleys is coming from a
[quoted text clipped - 65 lines]
> for doughnuts with the crew because he never bothered to turn around
> and give chase.

>He was all crouched down with eyes barely over the low windscreen and butt
pushed back in the seat.>

This makes Harley riders invisible. Had nothing to do with donuts.

Jerry
ROBERT MILLER - 25 Apr 2006 02:39 GMT
> So I go for a ride, and just as I start up a nice canyon road near the
> house, what is happening? An entire parade of Hardleys is coming from a
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> allowing us to do this...if I had the sv on its race tires, I wouldn't
> have attempted this "escape from idiots" maneuver.

Get a group of people together with 50ccer's and ambush those HD's. I would
love to see the looks, when they would have to creep behind those 50 cc
machines. scooter comuters.
Brian - 25 Apr 2006 21:55 GMT
> So I go for a ride, and just as I start up a nice canyon road near the
> house, what is happening? An entire parade of Hardleys is coming from a side
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> this...if I had the sv on its race tires, I wouldn't have attempted this
> "escape from idiots" maneuver.

This must be a global problem, as it happens down here as well, but our
guys would be riding two abreast as well!

The only answer to this kind of rolling roadblock is to carve them
up....the faster the better.

As far as I'm concerned, riding two abreast just invites passing on the
inside (Hey dude, I was just pulling alongside.....for a second
hahahaha!), as they have already shpown it is acceptable to be two wide
in the same lane.

There are few things more satisfying than watching a bunch of two
wheeled trucks wobbling around as they try to figure out what just went
past (OK,OK, I know blitzing Harleys is as much of a challenge as
picking your nose.....).

The cornering technique you mentioned is also typical.......but what can
you expect from bikes with 'floorboards' instead of footpegs?
Mike - 25 Apr 2006 22:03 GMT
>> So I go for a ride, and just as I start up a nice canyon road near the
>> house, what is happening? An entire parade of Hardleys is coming from a side
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
>The cornering technique you mentioned is also typical.......but what can
>you expect from bikes with 'floorboards' instead of footpegs?

Now these Harley guys would blow Troy and his ilk right into the weeds
in first gear while blind folded.:-)

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29723

Regards

Mike

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AndyL - 26 Apr 2006 00:10 GMT
>>This must be a global problem, as it happens down here as well, but our
>>guys would be riding two abreast as well!
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29723

but they do not jump these days , see the middle pictures ...
Pete - 28 Apr 2006 20:53 GMT
>So I go for a ride, and just as I start up a nice canyon road near the
>house, what is happening? An entire parade of Hardleys is coming from a side
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>this...if I had the sv on its race tires, I wouldn't have attempted this
>"escape from idiots" maneuver.

Shut up stupid
Troy the Troll - 29 Apr 2006 01:08 GMT
>>I wanted to puke. 5 miles up the road and 15 minutes later I take the
>>first
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
> Shut up stupid

Ummmm...I think....NOT.

But thanks for the constructive, well thought out and obviously complicated
response....
sleazy - 28 May 2006 18:10 GMT
>>>I wanted to puke. 5 miles up the road and 15 minutes later I take the
>>>first
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>But thanks for the constructive, well thought out and obviously complicated
>response....

Hey, he's just upset because he was the weaving guy you were
following.  That was the first time he got the bike out of first gear.
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