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Andrew - 23 Aug 2006 04:56 GMT
One of the Ohio Crew riding with Saddlebags is in desperate need of a
rear tire for a 2002 goldwing.  I have searched online for a Honda
Dealer in Kamloops, or a motorcycle dealer in Kamloops.  There appears
to be nothing there, at least on Google.  They should be pulling in
there tomorrow morning.

Any help out there for an AMS'er / fellow Reekyite?
Anyone know of a place that will have a rear tire?  Or any MC store in
or around Kamloops?

Please respond on this thread.

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Polarhound - 23 Aug 2006 05:20 GMT
> One of the Ohio Crew riding with Saddlebags is in desperate need of a
> rear tire for a 2002 goldwing.  I have searched online for a Honda
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Please respond on this thread.

Kamloops Yamaha at 250-828-2750 (could be 2790)
Rivercity Cycle at 250-377-4320
Gold Wing Road Riders Association Kamloops - Kirk Elliott kelliott@ocis.net
Andrew - 23 Aug 2006 05:24 GMT
>> One of the Ohio Crew riding with Saddlebags is in desperate need of a
>> rear tire for a 2002 goldwing.  I have searched online for a Honda
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Rivercity Cycle at 250-377-4320
> Gold Wing Road Riders Association Kamloops - Kirk Elliott kelliott@ocis.net

Gracias, I just left Saddle a voicemail with this info!
You rock Polarhound!

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BrianNZ - 23 Aug 2006 05:29 GMT
> Gracias, ???????

The Mexicans have won.....hahahahaha........
Andrew - 23 Aug 2006 05:34 GMT
>> Gracias, ???????
>
> The Mexicans have won.....hahahahaha........

Could be the Spaniards...

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BrianNZ - 23 Aug 2006 05:37 GMT
>>> Gracias, ???????
>>
>> The Mexicans have won.....hahahahaha........
>
> Could be the Spaniards...

No-one expects the inquisition.....  :)
Paul Elliot - 24 Aug 2006 16:46 GMT
>>> Gracias, ???????
>>
>> The Mexicans have won.....hahahahaha........
>
> Could be the Spaniards...

Cubans

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Pete M - 23 Aug 2006 06:06 GMT
>> One of the Ohio Crew riding with Saddlebags is in desperate need of a
>> rear tire for a 2002 goldwing.  I have searched online for a Honda Dealer
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Gold Wing Road Riders Association Kamloops - Kirk Elliott
> kelliott@ocis.net

Couple more possblities  if those don't pan out... never been to any but
they're listed in a book I have...

Midnight Motorcycle
314 Mt Paul Way
Kamloops
250.256.7442

Power Sport Sales and Service
106C Tranquille
Kamloops
250.376.7883

Stalzer Custom Cycles
6-1157 12th St
Kamloops
250.376.1727

Can't be a large deal, Kamloops is a fairly big place. Actually, when I pass
thru it, it seems like it's never going to end.

Now, if you were talking someplace like Horsefly or Likely....  could be a
different problem... :o)

P.
Joe - 23 Aug 2006 12:20 GMT
If none of the other options work out, remind the rider that a 2002 Goldwing
could possibly accept a normal car tire on that rim.  Not 10% sure of the
size, but if the rear tire is similar to the Valkyrie I've got, there are
LOTS of choices.

Wouldn't be the best answer for them, but it has been done by many by choice
so it's at least somewhat accepted to be a safe option.
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Bob Mann - 23 Aug 2006 13:59 GMT
>One of the Ohio Crew riding with Saddlebags is in desperate need of a
>rear tire for a 2002 goldwing.  I have searched online for a Honda
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>Please respond on this thread.

Canada 411 is the phone book online.
Thee are 21 listings under motorcycles for the immediate area.

Try any of these:
http://tinyurl.com/s3d7x

Leads to:

http://canada411.yellowpages.ca/searchBusiness.do?action=homeSearch&start=1&srch
type=category&Se=smp&directoryId=186350&provinceId=BC&cityId=KAMLOOPS&categoryNa
me=&showMsgBox=1&what=Motorcycle&Dir=186350&sType=simpleSearch&hbxhint=1&step=fi
nd&categoryId=00887600&city=Kamloops

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daniel.bannon@gmail.com - 23 Aug 2006 16:21 GMT
Good that all the folks rallied for resources, between AMS and Reeky.

In '04, a guy with a GL1800 shredded a tire outside Hyder, Alaska
(HyderSeek event).  He had a tire driven up via Prince George or
similar.  While expensive, it got there and between half-a-dozen
helpers with tools we got it mounted.  Can't imagine how much towing
would have cost.

Where there is will, there is a way.

Cautionary-tale portion of this story: M Squared (Saddle's buddy) was
not happy about this tire, the day we had lunch at Fat Smitty's out in
Kitsap: it felt wrong, traction was off, something like that.  Much
like Jamin's unwillingness to ride on a plugged sport tire, he probably
should have turned around and had the dealer mount a fresh one.

Before starting a thousand mile journey, make sure all bases are
covered.

(End of lecture).

-=DRB=-

> One of the Ohio Crew riding with Saddlebags is in desperate need of a
> rear tire for a 2002 goldwing.  I have searched online for a Honda
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Please respond on this thread.
Andrew - 23 Aug 2006 17:34 GMT
> Good that all the folks rallied for resources, between AMS and Reeky.
>
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>
> -=DRB=-

I really think Mountain to Sound should not have rented him the bike
with the tire in that condition.

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Jamin - 23 Aug 2006 19:19 GMT
> I really think Mountain to Sound should not have rented him the bike
> with the tire in that condition.

Probably true. I saw the tire, and yeah it was looking kind of worn in the
middle.

However, I also think Saddle's buddy should have inspected his ride better
before leaving the rental place.

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Andrew - 23 Aug 2006 19:31 GMT
>> I really think Mountain to Sound should not have rented him the bike
>> with the tire in that condition.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> However, I also think Saddle's buddy should have inspected his ride better
> before leaving the rental place.

I got a hold of Mountain to Sound and talked with Brenda, she is trying
to track them down now.  I sent her all the info everyone has posted
about shops in Kamloops, hopefully this will not ruin their trip.
Thanks again to everyone who responded.

Saddle called me from Mt. Robson last night, I looked on Google Earth,
and it looked like the middle of nowhere.

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Jamin - 23 Aug 2006 20:17 GMT
> I got a hold of Mountain to Sound and talked with Brenda, she is trying
> to track them down now.  I sent her all the info everyone has posted
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Saddle called me from Mt. Robson last night, I looked on Google Earth,
> and it looked like the middle of nowhere.

You are a very kind and caring person, Andrew. I already know that and
sometimes you STILL surprise me! :)

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Andrew - 23 Aug 2006 21:31 GMT
>> I got a hold of Mountain to Sound and talked with Brenda, she is trying
>> to track them down now.  I sent her all the info everyone has posted
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> You are a very kind and caring person, Andrew. I already know that and
> sometimes you STILL surprise me! :)

Awwww...shucks.  :)

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Daniel Bannon - 24 Aug 2006 02:51 GMT
>> I got a hold of Mountain to Sound and talked with Brenda, she is trying
>> to track them down now.  I sent her all the info everyone has posted
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>You are a very kind and caring person, Andrew. I already know that and
>sometimes you STILL surprise me! :)

Agreed <grumble>.

Let's pour bronze on Deerslayer and mount him in the front yard.

Anyone have a front yard I can borrow?
Andrew - 24 Aug 2006 04:17 GMT
>>> I got a hold of Mountain to Sound and talked with Brenda, she is trying
>>> to track them down now.  I sent her all the info everyone has posted
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Anyone have a front yard I can borrow?

Let's have no more discussion of any of you mounting me!

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Andrew - 23 Aug 2006 21:31 GMT
>>> I really think Mountain to Sound should not have rented him the bike
>>> with the tire in that condition.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Saddle called me from Mt. Robson last night, I looked on Google Earth,
> and it looked like the middle of nowhere.

Latest update:
Brenda found a shop to replace the tire in Kamloops.
Now she's just trying to get in touch with the Ohio crew.

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Mutton - 23 Aug 2006 21:42 GMT
> Saddle called me from Mt. Robson last night, I looked on Google Earth, and
> it looked like the middle of nowhere.

Nope! That would be Boksburg, South Africa....officially the middle of
nowhere!.....Actually we're about 20 km's west of Johannesburg!

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Daniel Bannon - 24 Aug 2006 02:58 GMT
>> Saddle called me from Mt. Robson last night, I looked on Google Earth, and
>> it looked like the middle of nowhere.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Mutton
>05 Fireblade, the Black One.

Hope it isn't the a.s-end of nowhere: that would be worse ;-)

Say: isn't the Namib Desert 2K Km or so NW of your location?  Now THAT
may be  the a.s-end of nowhere.

Speaking of, I'm reading on Wikipedia the Namib Desert is about 80
million years old.  I think my riding boots are about that old, too.
The boots stink.  Q: does the Namib Desert stink as bad as the boots?

Today's imponderable: now back to whatever it is people like me do on
a summer's eve.

Except it's winter in the Namib Desert...<sigh>
Mutton - 29 Aug 2006 21:16 GMT
>>> Saddle called me from Mt. Robson last night, I looked on Google Earth,
>>> and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Say: isn't the Namib Desert 2K Km or so NW of your location?  Now THAT
> may be  the a.s-end of nowhere.

Dead Right! The Namib Desert is not tooo far away...about 1200km due West of
Johannesburg.
Only thing worse than being in the arse-end of nowhere, is passing through
it!!

Mutton
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Robert Striemer - 24 Aug 2006 00:20 GMT
>>> I really think Mountain to Sound should not have rented him the bike
>>> with the tire in that condition.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Saddle called me from Mt. Robson last night, I looked on Google Earth, and
> it looked like the middle of nowhere.

Anywhere beyond the 48 states is the middle of nowhere to an American.
"Camalhoops" is in fact a small city. Very nice. Lots of big, clean
beautiful turqoise mountain lakes, hotsprings, orchards, vineyards, etc.
near by. Daytime temps around in the 90s this time of year. You can
houseboat around Shuswap Lake for a weeks and not see it all. Trail ride,
hike, swim - great beaches, golf, salmon and trout fishing etc.  Its not the
end of the world. You guys should get out of the States now and then - and I
don't mean Iraq. They will have had no trouble getting a tire for the Wing.

Rob
Tweak - 24 Aug 2006 14:10 GMT
> >>> I really think Mountain to Sound should not have rented him the bike
> >>> with the tire in that condition.
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>
> Anywhere beyond the 48 states is the middle of nowhere to an American.

Typical.

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Saddlebag - 28 Aug 2006 04:06 GMT
> Anywhere beyond the 48 states is the middle of nowhere to an American.
> "Camalhoops" is in fact a small city. Very nice. Lots of big, clean
> beautiful turqoise mountain lakes, hotsprings, orchards, vineyards, etc.
> near by.

Agreed. Unfortunately, when we discovered the left side of the tire was
bald we were across the street from Mt Robson (the highest peak in the
Canadian Rockies) ~350 km away from "Camalhoops". And of course that
evening would be the only one during the trip that it rained like hell.
TroytheTroll - 28 Aug 2006 04:23 GMT
> Unfortunately, when we discovered the left side of the tire was
> bald we were across the street from Mt Robson (the highest peak in the
> Canadian Rockies) ~350 km away from "Camalhoops". And of course that
> evening would be the only one during the trip that it rained like hell.

Mt Robson RULZ!!
Saddlebag - 28 Aug 2006 04:19 GMT
> > I really think Mountain to Sound should not have rented him the bike
> > with the tire in that condition.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> However, I also think Saddle's buddy should have inspected his ride better
> before leaving the rental place.

OK, but the fact he didn't perform a 150 point inspection on a bike he
paid a grand for doesn't negate their neglegence in this matter. When
you rent a car do you typically check brake pad wear or do you expect
some minimal level of maintenance would be preformed before they put
your life at undue risk?

IMO, for them to expect that he spend of part of his vacation doing
their f.cking maintenance is obscene. You noticed Grumpy split the
scene leaving the old lady to take up for him. That guy's never gotten
outta bed so early in his life!  Must be nice being the only game in
town.

Ya know Jamin, I seem to recall you had a lot of spare room in your
garage...
Jamin - 28 Aug 2006 08:39 GMT
> OK, but the fact he didn't perform a 150 point inspection on a bike he
> paid a grand for doesn't negate their neglegence in this matter. When
> you rent a car do you typically check brake pad wear or do you expect
> some minimal level of maintenance would be preformed before they put
> your life at undue risk?

100% agreed. If it were my rental shop, that tire wouldn't have been on the
bike. It wasn't you pal's duty to check the tires or anything else for that
matter. His bike should have been in perfect working order.

Speaking for myself, however, I probably would have given some parts of the
bike at least a look before taking off for a week into the Canadian Rockies.
Maybe it's my suspicious nature, but I don't want to find out the hard way
that Grumpy sent me out the door with a bike that obviously needs work. It
would have been less trouble overall if someone had looked at the tire the
morning you guys picked the bikes up.

It sure made me think that if I ever go somewhere and ride a bike that's not
mine, I'm going to check it over good before I hit the road.

> IMO, for them to expect that he spend of part of his vacation doing
> their f.cking maintenance is obscene. You noticed Grumpy split the
> scene leaving the old lady to take up for him. That guy's never gotten
> outta bed so early in his life!  Must be nice being the only game in
> town.

I'm guessing the game isn't so lucrative, which is why there's not much
competition.

> Ya know Jamin, I seem to recall you had a lot of spare room in your
> garage...

That's all I need. A bunch of guys like you two, visiting from all over the
country, showing up at my door at 9am every weekend. Pretty soon I'd have to
change my name to Grumpy! ;)

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Saddlebag - 28 Aug 2006 11:31 GMT
> I'm guessing the game isn't so lucrative, which is why there's not much
> competition.

Or bike people don't like being tied up with a bidness that sucks away
their summers. I would think that the 90k mile Goldwing I rode had
probably used 7 sets of tires (at 12k miles per set) at $400 after
mounting that's $2800. The bike itself new probably cost $18000. Throw
in another $2000 for oil changes, brake pads, 26k valve adjustments
etc. over the miles that gives a whopping $22800 on the red side of the
ledger. Now, charging $1080 every 2k miles (and I'm sure most who rent
don't ride anywhere near that far) nets one $45000. Not altogether bad
jack for a little elbow grease and some garage space. And at 90k miles,
that Goldwing still felt like it was fresh off the showroom floor. Now
let's multiply this by 20 bikes and compare it to what we make running
off to work for the man every morning; I do believe that with a little
Google advertising this bidness could definitely put some sushi on the
table. And by 10 am you could be back in the bed until it's time to go
to the bank and count your money.
Robert Striemer - 28 Aug 2006 19:11 GMT
So how did your bud manage (at Mt. Robson)? What did he do about the tire?
And what did Grumpy do for him on return?

Rob

>> I'm guessing the game isn't so lucrative, which is why there's not much
>> competition.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> table. And by 10 am you could be back in the bed until it's time to go
> to the bank and count your money.
Saddlebag - 28 Aug 2006 23:29 GMT
> So how did your bud manage (at Mt. Robson)? What did he do about the tire?

Andrew got ahold of Mrs Grumpy and she sprung for the tire at a Honda
dealer in Kamloops. He nursed it gently to Kamloops in the rain.

> And what did Grumpy do for him on return?

Grumpy hid, but his wife agreed to pay all the Canadian long distance
phone calls it took to get it straightened out, but she didn't seem to
care about the lost vacation time he spent doing THEIR job.
Andrew - 28 Aug 2006 23:35 GMT
>> So how did your bud manage (at Mt. Robson)? What did he do about the tire?
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> phone calls it took to get it straightened out, but she didn't seem to
> care about the lost vacation time he spent doing THEIR job.

Mrs. Grumpy is a friend / ex-coworker of mine.
She is a complete sweetheart.
She's probably pissed as hell at Grumpy for his laziness (not changing
out a tire) causing this.

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Saddlebag - 29 Aug 2006 01:08 GMT
> >> So how did your bud manage (at Mt. Robson)? What did he do about the tire?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> She's probably pissed as hell at Grumpy for his laziness (not changing
> out a tire) causing this.

All I can tell you that she barked at Mike that she would have "taken
the same trip on the same tire." Jamin can verify. She was apologetic
in a forced sorta way, but was hardly what I'd call a consumer
advocate. I hope she made Grumpy sleep in the van.
Andrew - 29 Aug 2006 01:26 GMT
>>>> So how did your bud manage (at Mt. Robson)? What did he do about the tire?
>>> Andrew got ahold of Mrs Grumpy and she sprung for the tire at a Honda
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> in a forced sorta way, but was hardly what I'd call a consumer
> advocate. I hope she made Grumpy sleep in the van.

Bummer.

You should have had someone cut the tire with a hacksaw and gotten a
cross section to show her.

That sucks man.
Hope it didn't ruin the trip.

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Saddlebag - 31 Aug 2006 02:44 GMT
> >>>> So how did your bud manage (at Mt. Robson)? What did he do about the tire?
> >>> Andrew got ahold of Mrs Grumpy and she sprung for the tire at a Honda
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> That sucks man.
> Hope it didn't ruin the trip.

Listenin to Mikey bitch for a few hours "ruin the trip" surely you
jest? Are these the faces of misery?

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Jamin - 29 Aug 2006 03:18 GMT
> All I can tell you that she barked at Mike that she would have "taken
> the same trip on the same tire." Jamin can verify. She was apologetic
> in a forced sorta way, but was hardly what I'd call a consumer
> advocate. I hope she made Grumpy sleep in the van.

The impression I got from her demeanor was that she thought Mike (your pal)
was full of crap on making the call that the tire needed to be replaced.

I think her point that either one of them (her or Grumpy) would have taken
that trip on that tire is completely irrelevant, anyway. Hell, I'll eat 1
week old pizza. Doesn't mean I'm going to serve it to a guest, much less a
paying customer.

But then Grumpy comes across as a "my way or the highway" kind of guy, so I
don't think this attitude should be too surprising.

Saddle, if I had a couple of spare Goldwings I would have gladly loaned them
to you. Heh heh... "couple of spare Goldwings"... :)

Maybe it's time to buy a truck and haul your Duc out here next time? To hell
with the rentals. You could make it out here in a day and half, driving
interstates. You'd need an extra bit of time off, but hassle factor would be
way way down, and cash outlay would be more in your favor I bet.

Or... ride the FJR cross country! That's what it's made for! :)

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Daniel Bannon - 29 Aug 2006 04:46 GMT
>Saddle, if I had a couple of spare Goldwings I would have gladly loaned them
>to you. Heh heh... "couple of spare Goldwings"... :)
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Or... ride the FJR cross country! That's what it's made for! :)

Did I miss a trip report, too?

C'mon, yah ornery Ohio cuss: give us the high-and-lowlights!  Figure
Smitty burgers must be in the former category.
Saddlebag - 29 Aug 2006 12:05 GMT
> >Saddle, if I had a couple of spare Goldwings I would have gladly loaned them
> >to you. Heh heh... "couple of spare Goldwings"... :)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> C'mon, yah ornery Ohio cuss: give us the high-and-lowlights!  Figure
> Smitty burgers must be in the former category.

I had to come home, go to bed, then go to work. I'll write something up
once my internal clock gets rewound.
Saddlebag - 29 Aug 2006 12:03 GMT
> > All I can tell you that she barked at Mike that she would have "taken
> > the same trip on the same tire." Jamin can verify. She was apologetic
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Or... ride the FJR cross country! That's what it's made for! :)

Yeah, but then I'd need a new tire!  Besides, I don't have your
ironbutt.  Speaking of which, I do believe you could be the first R1
ironbutt dude on the planet.  Maybe too late to be Nicky, but you may
yet find a place in MC immortality...
Jamin - 29 Aug 2006 21:25 GMT
>> Or... ride the FJR cross country! That's what it's made for! :)
>
> Yeah, but then I'd need a new tire!

Not if you started off with a fresh one. Just think of all the fun roads to
get lost on!

> Besides, I don't have your
> ironbutt.  Speaking of which, I do believe you could be the first R1
> ironbutt dude on the planet.  Maybe too late to be Nicky, but you may
> yet find a place in MC immortality...

Well, I'm lucky in that I have no physical conditions that prevent me from
riding many miles at a stretch. So then as the ride gets longer it's just a
matter of how much discomfort I'm willing to endure. I still think my R1 is
reasonably comfortable. The Stomp Grips on the tank are a big help, letting
me more easily grip with my legs so I can keep my arms and shoulders
relaxed, which prevents muscle fatigue in my neck and shoulders.

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Saddlebag - 30 Aug 2006 00:11 GMT
> >> Or... ride the FJR cross country! That's what it's made for! :)
> >
> > Yeah, but then I'd need a new tire!
> >
> Not if you started off with a fresh one. Just think of all the fun roads to
> get lost on!

A) Interstates between here and Washington are not fun.

B) I don't get lost, I simply give others an adventure.
Jamin - 30 Aug 2006 01:06 GMT
> A) Interstates between here and Washington are not fun.

Interstates?? Blasphemer! Surely there are bendier, more interesting roads
between here and there.

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Saddlebag - 30 Aug 2006 01:27 GMT
> > A) Interstates between here and Washington are not fun.
> >
> Interstates?? Blasphemer! Surely there are bendier, more interesting roads
> between here and there.

Next time your in Illinois I challenge you to find one.
Jamin - 30 Aug 2006 08:20 GMT
> Next time your in Illinois I challenge you to find one.

I guess I'm spoiled living near mountains. You should move.

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Saddlebag - 30 Aug 2006 22:37 GMT
> > Next time your in Illinois I challenge you to find one.
>
> You should move.

My bowels?
BrianNZ - 30 Aug 2006 23:06 GMT
>>> Next time your in Illinois I challenge you to find one.
>> You should move.
>
> My bowels?

Yes, daily......Is this the 'skat' thread now?

Any comments on consistency, how many pieces of paper for the cleanup?
Jamin - 30 Aug 2006 23:25 GMT
>>> Next time your in Illinois I challenge you to find one.
>>
>> You should move.
>
> My bowels?

And the rest of you, away from the flat part of the country.

Karri and I are probably riding in the mountains this weekend.

MOUNTAINS, I say!

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TroytheTroll - 31 Aug 2006 00:14 GMT
> Karri and I are probably riding in the mountains this weekend.
>
> MOUNTAINS, I say!

In WASHINGTON??!! PLEASE!!!

How many minutes do YOU have to ride to get up above 14,000 feet? I'm
guessing I can do it within 40 minutes, door to mountaintop.

Mountains in Washington....PLEASE.....
Andrew - 31 Aug 2006 00:17 GMT
>> Karri and I are probably riding in the mountains this weekend.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Mountains in Washington....PLEASE.....

Our mountains are taller, since they all start around sea level.
We actually have to go up from 0-12K feet.  You get a mile head start.

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TroytheTroll - 31 Aug 2006 01:02 GMT
>>> Karri and I are probably riding in the mountains this weekend.
>>>
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> Our mountains are taller, since they all start around sea level.
> We actually have to go up from 0-12K feet.  You get a mile head start.

Admitting the disadvantages inherent in your location will not help your
case.
Andrew - 31 Aug 2006 01:22 GMT
>>>> Karri and I are probably riding in the mountains this weekend.
>>>>
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> Admitting the disadvantages inherent in your location will not help your
> case.

Your mountains are tiny, end of story.

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TroytheTroll - 31 Aug 2006 01:25 GMT
>> Admitting the disadvantages inherent in your location will not help your
>> case.
>
> Your mountains are tiny, end of story.

The original challenge was, I can go from garage door to 14,000'+ in 40
minutes. How long does it take you?

Claiming that the mountains in Colorado are tiny is not the answer, in
minutes, the question requires.
Andrew - 31 Aug 2006 01:29 GMT
>>> Admitting the disadvantages inherent in your location will not help
>>> your case.
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> Claiming that the mountains in Colorado are tiny is not the answer, in
> minutes, the question requires.

So your climb is 9K feet?
I can get to 9K feet in 2.5 hrs.  Not too bad.

I live 453 feet above sea level according to my fancy new GPS.
Saddle, Bannon and I made it to 5700 feet in less than 1.5 hours if you
don't count the ferry and the burgers.

You still have tiny mountains!

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TroytheTroll - 31 Aug 2006 01:43 GMT
>> The original challenge was, I can go from garage door to 14,000'+ in 40
>> minutes. How long does it take you?
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> So your climb is 9K feet?
> I can get to 9K feet in 2.5 hrs.  Not too bad.

Climb? What do I care what the climb is? Its real easy, I wheel the
motorcycle out the garage door. I start my stopwatch. I ride, and ride, and
ride some more, and about 40 minutes later I arrive at 14,000+ feet,
overlook the majestic plains and Continental Divide, and then go do
something else.

How long does it take you to arrive at similar height, what with your
MOUNTAINS and all?

> I live 453 feet above sea level according to my fancy new GPS.
> Saddle, Bannon and I made it to 5700 feet in less than 1.5 hours if you
> don't count the ferry and the burgers.
>
> You still have tiny mountains!

Your mountains are so insignificant I can't imagine. Sitting in Hayes
KANSAS, 1000' or so,  I ride west on I70 for 1.5 hours and I'm betting I'm
at nearly 6000 feet in elevation. Without a decent MOUNTAIN in sight.

But a 14-teener. THATS a mountain. 40 minutes from the house. And you?
Andrew - 31 Aug 2006 01:54 GMT
>>> The original challenge was, I can go from garage door to 14,000'+ in 40
>>> minutes. How long does it take you?
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>
> But a 14-teener. THATS a mountain. 40 minutes from the house. And you?

We don't have a 14-teener, I have to admit.
We have a couple of 12-ers but that is a 12K vertical climb.
So you get to make a 9K climb at most to your tiny, minuscule,
nano-sized peaks.  I bet they don't even blow up good.
http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/mshnvm/

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TroytheTroll - 31 Aug 2006 02:34 GMT
>> But a 14-teener. THATS a mountain. 40 minutes from the house. And you?
>
> We don't have a 14-teener, I have to admit.

Ah HAH! NOW WE KNOW THE TRUTH!!!! A little thermite and iron eating moon
mice, maybe we can CHANGE IT!!

> We have a couple of 12-ers but that is a 12K vertical climb.
> So you get to make a 9K climb at most to your tiny, minuscule, nano-sized
> peaks.  I bet they don't even blow up good.
> http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/mshnvm/

PLEASE!!

I'm coming up to the PAC NW, I swear. Love your scenery.
Daniel Bannon - 31 Aug 2006 04:54 GMT
>>>> Admitting the disadvantages inherent in your location will not help
>>>> your case.
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>
>You still have tiny mountains!

My cell phone went from 80mph to 0 in 10 feet.  Do I get to join the
clique?

Oh, pardon me: DEERSLAYER'S new cell phone.
Andrew - 31 Aug 2006 05:14 GMT
>>>>> Admitting the disadvantages inherent in your location will not help
>>>>> your case.
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>
> Oh, pardon me: DEERSLAYER'S new cell phone.

Umm...Mrs. Deerslayer's new phone.

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Jamin - 31 Aug 2006 08:32 GMT
> In WASHINGTON??!! PLEASE!!!
>
> How many minutes do YOU have to ride to get up above 14,000 feet? I'm
> guessing I can do it within 40 minutes, door to mountaintop.
>
> Mountains in Washington....PLEASE.....

Yep. Believe it. Some of them are right next to the OCEAN. That's the big
blue thing you landlocked types generally see on maps.

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Saddlebag - 31 Aug 2006 01:29 GMT
> >>> Next time your in Illinois I challenge you to find one.
> >>
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>
> And the rest of you, away from the flat part of the country.

I don't live in Ill ya know. I was just pointing out that the roads
from here to the Pac NW aren't paved in semi-circles. I've got the best
(if not the most scenic) sportbike roads in the states but a few hours
from wherest I seat.

http://www.members.aol.com/saddlebag/saddledrag.jpg

Any questions?

Wanna get out here and make your own comparison? We got good beef and
cheese.
Jamin - 31 Aug 2006 08:33 GMT
> Wanna get out here and make your own comparison? We got good beef and
> cheese.

Yes, someday soon I hope to make that comparison.

I like meat and cheese!

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