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Mike - 24 Aug 2006 19:44 GMT
$8000.00 retail. 650 Vtwin. 77 HP weighing in the mid 300s.  They have
a lighter race version too. No FI though. It has Ohlins on the rear.
Don't know about the forks. Perhaps Showa?

http://www.fischer1.com/

Specs:

http://www.fischer1.com/fischer-mrx-motorcycle-specifications-2006.htm

All in all looks like a nice first effort.

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BryanUT - 24 Aug 2006 23:59 GMT
> $8000.00 retail. 650 Vtwin. 77 HP weighing in the mid 300s.  They have
> a lighter race version too. No FI though. It has Ohlins on the rear.
> Don't know about the forks. Perhaps Showa?
>
> http://www.fischer1.com/

Who makes the motor?  I am willing to bet it is a Chinese sv 650 clone.

Bryan
Mike - 25 Aug 2006 01:09 GMT
>> $8000.00 retail. 650 Vtwin. 77 HP weighing in the mid 300s.  They have
>> a lighter race version too. No FI though. It has Ohlins on the rear.
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>
>Bryan

I think it is made by Suzuki. Not sure though. It says it puts out 77
hp. That sound about right for an SV? Still a nice bike and not priced
too bad. Cost as much as that Korean 650 I saw in Cycle world. Maybe a
little more. The Ohlins shock is a nice touch though.

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Jamin - 25 Aug 2006 01:28 GMT
> I think it is made by Suzuki. Not sure though. It says it puts out 77
> hp. That sound about right for an SV? Still a nice bike and not priced
> too bad. Cost as much as that Korean 650 I saw in Cycle world. Maybe a
> little more. The Ohlins shock is a nice touch though.

HP figures vary, but stock they put out mid to high 60s, I believe, and you
can tune them to around mid 70s. At least that's what I've been told by some
reliable SV tuner type people.

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_Bob_Nixon - 25 Aug 2006 07:02 GMT
>> I think it is made by Suzuki. Not sure though. It says it puts out 77
>> hp. That sound about right for an SV? Still a nice bike and not priced
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>can tune them to around mid 70s. At least that's what I've been told by some
>reliable SV tuner type people.

The new FI'd SV's are running about 73 RWHP Jamin. They may have
hopped this one up a bit for the press release. I like it, personally.

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Jamin - 25 Aug 2006 18:14 GMT
> The new FI'd SV's are running about 73 RWHP Jamin. They may have
> hopped this one up a bit for the press release. I like it, personally.

Good to know. That's about the same RWHP as a moderately tuned carbureted
model, I believe.

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Denise Howard - 26 Aug 2006 07:06 GMT
> > The new FI'd SV's are running about 73 RWHP Jamin. They may have
> > hopped this one up a bit for the press release. I like it, personally.
>
> Good to know. That's about the same RWHP as a moderately tuned carbureted
> model, I believe.

Yeah, my 2000 model (carbureted) with a jet kit, pipe and some
dyno-tuning makes ~73 RWHP.

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Jamin - 28 Aug 2006 08:46 GMT
> Yeah, my 2000 model (carbureted) with a jet kit, pipe and some
> dyno-tuning makes ~73 RWHP.

That's what Karri wants to do to her 2002 SV650S.

On a related note, we just installed her Woodcraft rearsets today, replacing
the somewhat bent OEM units. Well, I installed them as she kept me company
and handed me tools from the workbench, and brought cold beer into the
garage. How romantic, eh? :)

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Steve Mackay - 25 Aug 2006 15:19 GMT
>>> $8000.00 retail. 650 Vtwin. 77 HP weighing in the mid 300s.  They have
>>> a lighter race version too. No FI though. It has Ohlins on the rear.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> I think it is made by Suzuki. Not sure though.

Nope. It's made by Hyonsung. The motor was designed by the same guy who
designed the SV650 motor iirc.
tomorrow@erols.com - 25 Aug 2006 22:30 GMT
Cool!

2007 Fischer motorcycle, mrx650a    $7,999.00

GP front end, includes Ohlins Superbike front forks, ultra-light cast
wheels, and complete Brembo radial mount front brake package. includes
necessary spacers and hardware, installed if purchased with MRX.
$4,999.00

Passenger kit, includes seat, footpegs, additional heat shield, and
comes with all brackets and hardware   $299.00

US Freight (The Fischer MRX comes crated with some set-up required)
$399

Total:  $13,696

Unfortunately, I just bought an '07 Ducati S4Rs for less than a
thousand dollars more than that, out the door.

Damn.   Timing is everything in this life!
BryanUT - 26 Aug 2006 00:53 GMT
> US Freight (The Fischer MRX comes crated with some set-up required)
> $399
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>
> Damn.   Timing is everything in this life!

Sheeesh, Tim now I really want to buy that Duc (inspite of the fact the
marketing dweebs call it "entry level", morons).

Don't get me wrong, I LIKE the idea of an American Sport Bike.  But this
ain't no American bike.  Hell, people  pay a premium for H-D.  I'd like to
see an American sourced engine and frame.  I will accept out sourced brakes,
shocks, forks.

I can dream.

Bryan
Mike - 26 Aug 2006 01:51 GMT
>> US Freight (The Fischer MRX comes crated with some set-up required)
>> $399
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>
>Bryan

The frame is American

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Mike

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Stephan Rose - 26 Aug 2006 02:17 GMT
>>> US Freight (The Fischer MRX comes crated with some set-up required)
>>> $399
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
>The frame is American

*rolls eyes*

Mike, when someone comes out with a complete bike, with every
significant component designed ***AND PRODUCED*** in the US, I will be
willing to call it an American Bike...

Until then...it isn't an american bike.

So they put together a frame, big friggin deal.

Give me drawings of an engine with all the necessary and I can put a
frame around it in an afternoon. It isn't all that terribly
difficult...especially when there are plenty of existing bikes to look
at for inspiration...

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Mike - 26 Aug 2006 18:07 GMT
>>>> US Freight (The Fischer MRX comes crated with some set-up required)
>>>> $399
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>significant component designed ***AND PRODUCED*** in the US, I will be
>willing to call it an American Bike...

So what do you call a Jap bike made here?

Regards

Mike

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tomorrow@erols.com - 26 Aug 2006 18:21 GMT
> >>>> US Freight (The Fischer MRX comes crated with some set-up required)
> >>>> $399
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>
> So what do you call a Jap bike made here?

Well, if it's made with imported steel, imported engine and
transmission subassemblies, imported electrical parts, imported brake
and suspension parts, in a production line made up of imported tooling,
by a company that is foreign owned, for which the majority of the
profits go to foreign investors, I would call it a foreign motorcycle.

I bought a BMW car that was assembled in South Carolina.  It was a
German car.   I currently own a Chevy truck that was assembled in
Mexico.  It's an American truck.

The bike in question in this thread strikes me as a Chinese motorcycle.
Steve Mackay - 26 Aug 2006 03:27 GMT
>> US Freight (The Fischer MRX comes crated with some set-up required)
>> $399
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Bryan

Well, Buells now have their frames made here in the USA. Used to be
built in Italy IIRC. So the motor/tranny/frames are produced here. But
probably not what you're looking for :)
Mike - 26 Aug 2006 19:24 GMT
>>> US Freight (The Fischer MRX comes crated with some set-up required)
>>> $399
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>built in Italy IIRC. So the motor/tranny/frames are produced here. But
>probably not what you're looking for :)

Steve lets get the record straight for the kiddies in here.  All
Buells from 2002 on down had frames made in America. It was when the
Firebolt arrived when Verlicchi was building frames for Buell in
Italy. The nice trellis chrome moly Buell frame was made here and if
it were up to me they would still be building a tube framed model.

Regards

Mike

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