How long you gonna ride a sportbike?
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debiannabi - 21 May 2007 17:37 GMT Since I hooked into a sportbike - 1996 Yamaha YZF600R, I never looked back any types of bike. Now I upgraded to new R1. I'm middle of 30s, riding sportbike since 2002.
Things hasn't changed is people are coming and going. Mostly young bikers who picked up sportbikes, goes through mishap and accidents before the end of summer, then give it up. Either got scared or serious injury or piled up traffic law violations.
Traffic cops love us. They just like to give us tickets at any moment. LOL. General public, especially people around us have biased eyes.
I'm in good shape. Couldn't find a good riding buddies in new place but I'll ride sportbike as long as I can. Recently, I've upgraded all the riding gears - from gloves to suit. Going to a racing school soon to upgrade my skills.
The situation isn't look bright. I might stop riding on the street and become a weekend track day biker or racer.
To ride a sportbike on the open road in a beautiful day feels so good. Cutting through the air like a blade sometimes, faces the breeze and see the beautiful scenery, the hot summer night fever in a cities - sportbiker gathering place. I missed it sometimes.
I live in a small town. After the sunset, wild animals are risky part so I don't ride in night.
Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s? Hmm... most bikers see that way.
proehling - 21 May 2007 19:22 GMT > Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s? > Hmm... most bikers see that way. Uh, 63 here and just retired as a track instructor three years ago. Still riding my '99 Honda VFR and have no intentions of trading it in at any time in the foreseeable future.
Ya wanna become old at 35 it's up to you, Bunkie, but a lot of us prefer to continue enjoying life for the duration.
timeOday - 21 May 2007 19:52 GMT >>Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s? >>Hmm... most bikers see that way. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Ya wanna become old at 35 it's up to you, Bunkie, but a lot of us prefer to > continue enjoying life for the duration. You can't deny his observation about demographics though - even if you're an outlier (which you are).
Anyways, many riders of non-sportbikes (even - gasp - cruisers!) would attest that they do enjoy them, and have not given up on life.
I think Debiannabi is actually on your side, though - he just wants somebody to tell him he can beat the odds and keep riding sportbikes.
Jamin - 22 May 2007 05:54 GMT > I think Debiannabi is actually on your side, though - he just wants > somebody to tell him he can beat the odds and keep riding sportbikes. One sure way to NOT beat the odds is to not even try. Everyone gets to decide for themselves when they want to give up. For me, it's never.
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asd;lkfasdkfln - 21 May 2007 20:43 GMT >> Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s? >> Hmm... most bikers see that way. > > Uh, 63 here and just retired as a track instructor three years ago. Still > riding my '99 Honda VFR and have no intentions of trading it in at any > time in the foreseeable future. I'm almost your age. I can ride a sportbike no problem And yes at very high speeds...... ;)) But at about 2 hours it becomes painful shoulders, butt, neck, arms, legs, knees, wrists. It is the nature of the riding position. And I am in decent shape 'sport' is just that.........2 hours at a time. sport / touring is the next step FJ1300 / ST1300 etc...
Brian
Davecbrf3 - 22 May 2007 00:36 GMT > >> Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s? > >> Hmm... most bikers see that way. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Brian I'm 52 and ride a CBR1000RR. Its great for insurance rates! ;)
Albrecht - 24 May 2007 01:01 GMT >I'm almost your age. >I can ride a sportbike no problem >And yes at very high speeds...... ;)) >But at about 2 hours it becomes painful >shoulders, butt, neck, arms, legs, knees, wrists. It is the nature of the >riding position. I'm older than any of you guys. And I know sportbike riders that are ten years older than me and they WILL NOT quit riding canyons until the coroner hauls them out of the San Gabriels dead.
Bursitis, carpal tunnel syndrome, golfer's elbow, tennis elbow, cervical stenosis, lumbar stenosis, flat feet, weakness of the interosseous muscles in the loud handle twister... and sciatica. (1)
I've got 'em all, and my nuts ache too.
>And I am in decent shape >'sport' is just that.........2 hours at a time. >sport / touring is the next step >FJ1300 / ST1300 etc... The longest recent sport bike ride I went on took 15 hours to cover 400 miles through serious twisties with crosswinds to make it interesting.
400 miles on a Sunday is just about right to me.
(1) Every sport rider should know what it means when one butt cheek hurts and pain radiates down the same leg to the ankle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciatica
Andrew - 24 May 2007 01:05 GMT >>I'm almost your age. >>I can ride a sportbike no problem [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > pain radiates down the same leg to the ankle. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciatica Yeah I have that from my deer wreck in 01. I actually am more comfortable now in the hunched over position. I have ridden a couple of cruisers that made my back really hurt. The best my back ever feels is on a sunny day with the heat beating down on my back, while i'm stretched out over the tank.
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Albrecht - 24 May 2007 01:30 GMT >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciatica > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >The best my back ever feels is on a sunny day with the heat beating down on >my back, while i'm stretched out over the tank. You might also consider wrapping plastic or rubber sheet around your waist to retain warm moisture. I discovered the therapeutic benefits of moist heat accidentally.
Doctors recommend applying ICE to reduce the inflammation of recent injuries and tell sufferers not to apply heat.
I followed their recommendations and got no relief.
Then I found that MOIST HEAT relaxed muscle spasm and relieved the pain. I was wearing a leather weight lifter's belt to support my back, and the belt made me sweat around the waist and that really helped relieve the pain of my pinched nerve.
If I can get into a jacuzzi or hot tub after a long ride or stand under a shower with the hot water running on my back, I get relief that way.
Another way is to wrap a towel around an electric heating pad and turn it up all the way. If my neck hurts from supporting the weight of a heavy motorcycle helmet, I wrap the towel and heating pad around a 1-liter plastic bottle or whatever is handy.
If it's my back that's hurting, I apply the moist heat by laying on the wet towel and heating pad.
TroytheTroll - 24 May 2007 01:40 GMT > Bursitis, carpal tunnel syndrome, golfer's elbow, tennis elbow, cervical > stenosis, lumbar stenosis, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I've got 'em all, and my nuts ache too. Yeah, but thats because you are always wandering around being "curious" and all.
> The longest recent sport bike ride I went on took 15 hours to cover 400 > miles > through serious twisties > with crosswinds to make it interesting. > > 400 miles on a Sunday is just about right to me. I consider a tank of gas usually sufficient. Then I switch bikes and go use another one for something else. Variety is the spice of life!!
Jim S. - 24 May 2007 05:50 GMT "Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33665@uwe>
Bursitis, carpal tunnel syndrome, golfer's elbow, tennis elbow, cervical
> stenosis, lumbar stenosis, > flat feet, weakness of the interosseous muscles in the loud handle > twister... > and sciatica. (1) oh yeah.. multiple sclersosis, herniated disks at c4-c7, arthritis both hands, knees, high BP, carpal tunnel, deer mangled right wrist, bad attitude. Did I say I was near sighted, too? Jim
Albrecht - 24 May 2007 13:56 GMT >oh yeah.. >multiple sclersosis, herniated disks at c4-c7, arthritis both hands, knees, >high BP, carpal tunnel, deer mangled right wrist, bad attitude. >Did I say I was near sighted, too? >Jim I'll see your high BP and nearsightedness and raise you benign prostate hyperplasia and type 2 diabetes...
Ain't it a bitch being trapped in an all-to-human human body, waiting to see what goes out of whack next?
Jim S. - 29 May 2007 03:46 GMT "Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33665@uwe> > I'll see your high BP and nearsightedness and raise you benign prostate
> hyperplasia and type 2 diabetes... > > Ain't it a bitch being trapped in an all-to-human human body, waiting to > see > what goes out of whack next? It is a little unnerving sometimes.
Larry xlax Lovisone - 21 May 2007 23:39 GMT > Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s? > Hmm... most bikers see that way. I'm 58 and still prefer excitement in my ride... BTW we ain't bikers... we are riders... big difference Jr. Pudknocker... http://farm1.static.flickr.com/221/508020052_909872c927_o.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/347907426_0cb1e0277d_o.jpg
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saddlebag - 22 May 2007 00:14 GMT On May 21, 6:39 pm, "Larry xlax Lovisone" <nette...@combogusinfocast.net> wrote:
> I'm 58 and still prefer excitement in my ride... BTW we ain't bikers... we are > riders... big difference Jr. Pudknocker Odd, Debi doesn't sound like Demi?
Andrew - 22 May 2007 01:17 GMT > On May 21, 6:39 pm, "Larry xlax Lovisone" > <nette...@combogusinfocast.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Odd, Debi doesn't sound like Demi? That's what I was thinking. Isn't Debian a linux distro?
I will ride sportbikes until I can't ride no more.
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Jamin - 22 May 2007 05:40 GMT > I will ride sportbikes until I can't ride no more. Same here. I might very well ride other bikes in addition to sportbikes, but I don't plan to ever give them up. Hell, I met a guy at a gas pump, I think somewhere in CA on one of my trips, after chasing him through the countryside for about 30 minutes. He was fast and smooth, much smoother than me, and riding a Ducati racer (916 or similar). When we took off our helmets at the gas station, I was amazed to see he was about 70 years old.
Good reality check. It can be done. You just have to want it bad enough.
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Jim S. - 24 May 2007 05:46 GMT "Larry xlax Lovisone" <netters2@combogusinfocast.net> ... BTW we ain't bikers...
Yeah, you would never catch me wearing a denim vest with a flying skull and spandex shorts. ewwww. Jim Stinnett (55 year old and counting...not pedaling since 1967) R1 NX250 R1100RS
Jamin - 24 May 2007 20:35 GMT > Yeah, you would never catch me wearing a denim vest with a flying skull and > spandex shorts. We wouldn't catch you only because you ride so fast!
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jm s - 25 May 2007 06:05 GMT >> Yeah, you would never catch me wearing a denim vest with a flying skull and >> spandex shorts. > > We wouldn't catch you only because you ride so fast! I have slowed down a bit since my misfortune in the mist. So perhaps I need to find a nice deer free place to wick it up again. Sears Point, Thunderhill, Buttonwillow? Yes, of course!
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TroytheTroll - 21 May 2007 23:49 GMT > Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s? > Hmm... most bikers see that way. AMS doesn't represent "most bikers". Around here, people are riding sportbikes with 1 leg, collecting social security and suffering from various degree's of Alzheimers.
Youngsters around here are in their 40's.
tomorrow@erols.com - 22 May 2007 00:21 GMT > Since I hooked into a sportbike - 1996 Yamaha YZF600R, I never looked > back any types of bike. Now I upgraded to new R1. I'm middle of 30s, > riding sportbike since 2002.
> Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s? > Hmm... most bikers see that way. Well, first off, sportbikes are not exclusively race replicas. You can ride any bike on the street at a sporting pace, and even if you exclude all touring-specific, sport-touring specific, cruising, and pure dirtbikes as not being sportbikes for the street, you are still left with a lot of motorcycles to choose from besides pure roadracing style streetbikes.
I would argue that for most street sport riders, it is both safer and more enjoyable - not to mention probably faster from point to point - to ride something OTHER than a pure race rep on the street. The ability to keep your head and eyes up with less effort reduces stress and fatigue, and the comparative ease with which you can monitor the back door lends another favorable aspect to a street-oriented sporting ride.
Besides, if you are riding fast enough and hard enough to exploit the inherent advantages of a pure race replica on the public streets (i.e., the front weight bias and the ability to get out of the wind blast behind a tiny race replica full fairing, while hanging off and dragging knees) you probably SHOULDN'T be riding on the public streets!
~kurt - 22 May 2007 05:08 GMT > I'm in good shape. Couldn't find a good riding buddies in new place > but I'll ride sportbike as long as I can. Recently, I've upgraded all I keep trying to get rid of the bikes. I know they are no good for me. I keep going to the track - keep crashing. People on the streets keep trying to run over me with their big SUVs (seriously, you would not believe what some of the indigenous personnel with their big fancy chromed out SUVs will try to pull in this place as they are leaned way back in their seat, up against the window , shucking and jiving on the cell phone, imagining they are in some rap video cruising down the highway like a gangsta).
I haven't been able to put the ad in the paper to get rid of them though.... I guess this is what heroine must be like.
- Kurt
T.D. Hilton - 23 May 2007 13:43 GMT <snip>
> Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s? > Hmm... most bikers see that way. That's crap. I'm 39 and have been riding sportbikes since I was 17. I have no intention of stopping unless my body simply can't take it anymore, or I'm a danger to myself. I'd like to have a nice cruiser but I'll never get rid of the sportbike.
Bob Nixon - 23 May 2007 16:24 GMT [...]
> Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s? > Hmm... most bikers see that way. This is total bull or at least from an AMS perspective like Troy stated. I'm the one legger he was talking about and I just changed bikes to a smaller, lighter old RZ-350 but it's still a sport bike and will prolly beat most new 600's up to 60 MPH. IOW, I wouldn't be caught dead riding a heavy, low slung, slow, cruiser bike of any brand. I started riding 50cc Honda step-thoughts when I graduated from HS in 1963 and am now closing in on 62 years old. I consider a 700lb + fully loaded cruiser to be more like a car than a bike. Goldwings are so heavy they even have a reverse gear;)
And dude, bikes are not cheap to operate. Many 600cc sport bikes only get in the 30-MPG range, with tires lasting only 3 to 5K and typically run $300.00 per set. Maintenance costs are generally higher than cars as well. Sport bikes particulary in the USA are used for mostly recreational purposes.
MHF - 24 May 2007 23:55 GMT >Since I hooked into a sportbike - 1996 Yamaha YZF600R, I never looked >back any types of bike. Now I upgraded to new R1. I'm middle of 30s, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >I'm in good shape. Couldn't find a good riding buddies in new place >but I'll ride sportbike as long as I can. You make it sound like riding a sportbike is some amazing physical feat. Try playing full court basketball at 45 against twenty somethings. Now that takes physical stregnth and endurance. Ridng *any* motorcycle on the street takes very little in the strength and endurance department. Very little. You have out of shape old guys and girls riding everyday. Put them on a basketball court and they wouldn't last five minutes. IMO there is no age limit for riding a sport bike. If you can get out of bed and you are breathing that should be enough to ride. The breathing portion is the most important part.
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saddlebag - 25 May 2007 00:22 GMT > >Since I hooked into a sportbike - 1996 Yamaha YZF600R, I never looked > >back any types of bike. Now I upgraded to new R1. I'm middle of 30s, [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > should be enough to ride. The breathing portion is the most important > part. Riding one around the neighorhood sure. Bring that Buell of yours down to Tennessee sometime and we'll see how you feel at the end of the day.
MHF - 25 May 2007 01:49 GMT >> >Since I hooked into a sportbike - 1996 Yamaha YZF600R, I never looked >> >back any types of bike. Now I upgraded to new R1. I'm middle of 30s, [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >down to Tennessee sometime and we'll see how you feel at the end of >the day. Oh puhleeze Saddle. I work construction and play full court basketball fer cryin out loud. I walk\run continually all day every day when I check\shoot grades and do layout. I don't sit in an office and get out of shape. Riding a street bike is something I do when I don't want to break a sweat. It is about as hard as Fishing.
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BrianNZ - 25 May 2007 01:54 GMT >>>> Since I hooked into a sportbike - 1996 Yamaha YZF600R, I never looked >>>> back any types of bike. Now I upgraded to new R1. I'm middle of 30s, [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > https://secure.responseenterprises.com/minutemanhq/?a=856 Whats the furtherest youv'e ridden in one go?
You may find that your 'natural' fitness doesn't help when you are stuck in the same position all day. How far do you get on the Buell before comfort becomes an issue?.....Nice soft seat?....no annoying vibrations?.......no high speed wind blast?......no inclement weather to chill you?
~kurt - 25 May 2007 02:28 GMT > You may find that your 'natural' fitness doesn't help when you are stuck > in the same position all day. How far do you get on the Buell before That is why I found backroads with some twisties less fatiguing than a highway - I can move around a little here and there.
I really need another bike - one that I can just point in a direction and get lost on for a few weeks. Something with some ground clearance, the ability to hold saddlebags, gets good mileage, and that you can be on for 600 miles at a time with no problems.
- Kurt
TroytheTroll - 25 May 2007 02:37 GMT >> You may find that your 'natural' fitness doesn't help when you are stuck >> in the same position all day. How far do you get on the Buell before [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ability to hold saddlebags, gets good mileage, and that you can be on > for 600 miles at a time with no problems. Oh heck, I use my trackbike for that kinda duty.
~kurt - 25 May 2007 13:01 GMT > Oh heck, I use my trackbike for that kinda duty. My track bike is a real torture rack. The street bike is just a bit better.
- Kurt
BrianNZ - 25 May 2007 02:37 GMT >> You may find that your 'natural' fitness doesn't help when you are stuck >> in the same position all day. How far do you get on the Buell before > > That is why I found backroads with some twisties less fatiguing than > a highway - I can move around a little here and there. Good point. Luckily down here even the main roads are twisty (with some exceptions). I'd hate to ride a sportsbike on long flat roads for hours on end.
> I really need another bike - one that I can just point in a direction and > get lost on for a few weeks. Something with some ground clearance, the > ability to hold saddlebags, gets good mileage, and that you can be on > for 600 miles at a time with no problems. > > - Kurt Looks like it's GS BMW time for you!
I find the hardest part is getting the time off work/family to get away on my own. Maybe in 10 years.........
~kurt - 25 May 2007 13:03 GMT > Looks like it's GS BMW time for you! I read the recent SportRider article on the Ducati Multistrada MTS 1100S with great interest.... But yea, some of the BMWs are on my mind.
- Kurt
Jamin - 25 May 2007 03:06 GMT > That is why I found backroads with some twisties less fatiguing than > a highway - I can move around a little here and there. Interstates are killers. I'd rather do 400 miles of twisty roads than 200 miles of interstate.
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Andrew - 25 May 2007 03:09 GMT >> That is why I found backroads with some twisties less fatiguing than >> a highway - I can move around a little here and there. > > Interstates are killers. I'd rather do 400 miles of twisty roads than 200 > miles of interstate. I agree
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TroytheTroll - 25 May 2007 04:23 GMT >> That is why I found backroads with some twisties less fatiguing than >> a highway - I can move around a little here and there. > > Interstates are killers. I'd rather do 400 miles of twisty roads than 200 > miles of interstate. Me too. But MAN can you cover ground on the silly things.
Jamin - 25 May 2007 07:59 GMT > Me too. But MAN can you cover ground on the silly things. Yeah... almost like somebody PLANNED it that way. ;)
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TroytheTroll - 25 May 2007 14:16 GMT >> Me too. But MAN can you cover ground on the silly things. > > Yeah... almost like somebody PLANNED it that way. ;) Isn't it wild how that works?
Jamin - 25 May 2007 03:07 GMT > I really need another bike - one that I can just point in a direction and > get lost on for a few weeks. Something with some ground clearance, the > ability to hold saddlebags, gets good mileage, and that you can be on > for 600 miles at a time with no problems. Try an R1! Works for me... ;)
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tomorrow@erols.com - 25 May 2007 15:29 GMT > > I really need another bike - one that I can just point in a direction and > > get lost on for a few weeks. Something with some ground clearance, the > > ability to hold saddlebags, gets good mileage, and that you can be on > > for 600 miles at a time with no problems. > > Try an R1! Works for me... ;) Or a Ducati 998R. NIce little touring rig when you slap some saddlebags on it. Just like goin' fishin'. Great for little 800 mile blast on the interstate, too.........
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