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How long you gonna ride a sportbike?

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debiannabi - 21 May 2007 17:37 GMT
Since I hooked into a sportbike - 1996 Yamaha YZF600R, I never looked
back any types of bike. Now I upgraded to new R1. I'm middle of 30s,
riding sportbike since 2002.

Things hasn't changed is people are coming and going. Mostly young
bikers who picked up sportbikes, goes through mishap and accidents
before the end of summer, then give it up. Either got scared or
serious injury or piled up traffic law violations.

Traffic cops love us. They just like to give us tickets at any moment.
LOL. General public, especially people around us have biased eyes.

I'm in good shape. Couldn't find a good riding buddies in new place
but I'll ride sportbike as long as I can. Recently, I've upgraded all
the riding gears - from gloves to suit. Going to a racing school soon
to upgrade my skills.

The situation isn't look bright. I might stop riding on the street and
become a weekend track day biker or racer.

To ride a sportbike on the open road in a beautiful day feels so good.
Cutting through the air like a blade sometimes, faces the breeze and
see the beautiful scenery, the hot summer night fever in a cities -
sportbiker gathering place. I missed it sometimes.

I live in a small town.  After the sunset, wild animals are risky part
so I don't ride in night.

Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s?
Hmm... most bikers see that way.
proehling - 21 May 2007 19:22 GMT
> Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s?
> Hmm... most bikers see that way.

Uh, 63 here and just retired as a track instructor three years ago. Still
riding my '99 Honda VFR and have no intentions of trading it in at any time
in the foreseeable future.

Ya wanna become old at 35 it's up to you, Bunkie, but a lot of us prefer to
continue enjoying life for the duration.
timeOday - 21 May 2007 19:52 GMT
>>Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s?
>>Hmm... most bikers see that way.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Ya wanna become old at 35 it's up to you, Bunkie, but a lot of us prefer to
> continue enjoying life for the duration.

You can't deny his observation about demographics though - even if
you're an outlier (which you are).

Anyways, many riders of non-sportbikes (even - gasp - cruisers!) would
attest that they do enjoy them, and have not given up on life.

I think Debiannabi is actually on your side, though - he just wants
somebody to tell him he can beat the odds and keep riding sportbikes.
Jamin - 22 May 2007 05:54 GMT
> I think Debiannabi is actually on your side, though - he just wants
> somebody to tell him he can beat the odds and keep riding sportbikes.

One sure way to NOT beat the odds is to not even try. Everyone gets to
decide for themselves when they want to give up. For me, it's never.

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asd;lkfasdkfln - 21 May 2007 20:43 GMT
>> Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s?
>> Hmm... most bikers see that way.
>
> Uh, 63 here and just retired as a track instructor three years ago. Still
> riding my '99 Honda VFR and have no intentions of trading it in at any
> time in the foreseeable future.

I'm almost your age.
I can ride a sportbike no problem
And yes at very high speeds...... ;))
But at about 2 hours it becomes painful
shoulders, butt, neck, arms, legs, knees, wrists. It is the nature of the
riding position.
And I am in decent shape
'sport' is just that.........2 hours at a time.
sport / touring is the next step
FJ1300 / ST1300 etc...

Brian
Davecbrf3 - 22 May 2007 00:36 GMT
> >> Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s?
> >> Hmm... most bikers see that way.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Brian

I'm 52 and ride a CBR1000RR.  Its great for insurance rates! ;)
Albrecht - 24 May 2007 01:01 GMT
>I'm almost your age.
>I can ride a sportbike no problem
>And yes at very high speeds...... ;))
>But at about 2 hours it becomes painful
>shoulders, butt, neck, arms, legs, knees, wrists. It is the nature of the
>riding position.

I'm older than any of you guys. And I know sportbike riders that are ten
years older than me and they
WILL NOT quit riding canyons until the coroner hauls them out of the San
Gabriels dead.

Bursitis, carpal tunnel syndrome, golfer's elbow, tennis elbow, cervical
stenosis, lumbar stenosis,
flat feet, weakness of the interosseous muscles in the loud handle twister...
and sciatica. (1)

I've got 'em all, and my nuts ache too.

>And I am in decent shape
>'sport' is just that.........2 hours at a time.
>sport / touring is the next step
>FJ1300 / ST1300 etc...

The longest recent sport bike ride I went on took 15 hours to cover 400 miles
through serious twisties
with crosswinds to make it interesting.

400 miles on a Sunday is just about right to me.

(1) Every sport rider should know what it means when one butt cheek hurts and
pain radiates down the same leg to the ankle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciatica
Andrew - 24 May 2007 01:05 GMT
>>I'm almost your age.
>>I can ride a sportbike no problem
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> pain radiates down the same leg to the ankle.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciatica

Yeah I have that from my deer wreck in 01.
I actually am more comfortable now in the hunched over position.
I have ridden a couple of cruisers that made my back really hurt.
The best my back ever feels is on a sunny day with the heat beating down on
my back, while i'm stretched out over the tank.

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Albrecht - 24 May 2007 01:30 GMT
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciatica
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>The best my back ever feels is on a sunny day with the heat beating down on
>my back, while i'm stretched out over the tank.

You might also consider wrapping plastic or rubber sheet around your waist to
retain warm moisture.
I discovered the therapeutic benefits of moist heat accidentally.

Doctors recommend applying ICE to reduce the inflammation of recent injuries
and tell sufferers not to apply heat.

I followed their recommendations and got no relief.

Then I found that MOIST HEAT relaxed muscle spasm and relieved the pain. I
was wearing a leather weight lifter's belt to support my back, and the belt
made me sweat around the waist and that really helped relieve the pain of my
pinched nerve.

If I can get into a jacuzzi or hot tub after a long ride or stand under a
shower
with the hot water running on my back, I get relief that way.

Another way is to wrap a towel around an electric heating pad and turn it up
all the way. If my neck hurts from supporting the weight of a heavy
motorcycle helmet, I wrap the towel and heating pad around a 1-liter plastic
bottle or whatever is handy.

If it's my back that's hurting, I apply the moist heat by laying on the wet
towel and heating pad.
TroytheTroll - 24 May 2007 01:40 GMT
> Bursitis, carpal tunnel syndrome, golfer's elbow, tennis elbow, cervical
> stenosis, lumbar stenosis,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I've got 'em all, and my nuts ache too.

Yeah, but thats because you are always wandering around being "curious" and
all.

> The longest recent sport bike ride I went on took 15 hours to cover 400
> miles
> through serious twisties
> with crosswinds to make it interesting.
>
> 400 miles on a Sunday is just about right to me.

I consider a tank of gas usually sufficient. Then I switch bikes and go use
another one for something else. Variety is the spice of life!!
Jim S. - 24 May 2007 05:50 GMT
"Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33665@uwe>

Bursitis, carpal tunnel syndrome, golfer's elbow, tennis elbow, cervical
> stenosis, lumbar stenosis,
> flat feet, weakness of the interosseous muscles in the loud handle
> twister...
> and sciatica. (1)

oh yeah..
multiple sclersosis, herniated disks at c4-c7, arthritis both hands, knees,
high BP, carpal tunnel, deer mangled right wrist, bad attitude.
Did I say I was near sighted, too?
Jim
Albrecht - 24 May 2007 13:56 GMT
>oh yeah..
>multiple sclersosis, herniated disks at c4-c7, arthritis both hands, knees,
>high BP, carpal tunnel, deer mangled right wrist, bad attitude.
>Did I say I was near sighted, too?
>Jim

I'll see your high BP and nearsightedness and raise you benign prostate
hyperplasia and type 2 diabetes...

Ain't it a bitch being trapped in an all-to-human human body, waiting to see
what goes out of whack next?
Jim S. - 29 May 2007 03:46 GMT
"Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33665@uwe> > I'll see your high BP and
nearsightedness and raise you benign prostate
> hyperplasia and type 2 diabetes...
>
> Ain't it a bitch being trapped in an all-to-human human body, waiting to
> see
> what goes out of whack next?

It is a little unnerving sometimes.
Larry xlax Lovisone - 21 May 2007 23:39 GMT
> Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s?
> Hmm... most bikers see that way.

I'm 58 and still prefer excitement in my ride... BTW we ain't bikers... we are
riders... big difference Jr. Pudknocker...
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Yank and bank your brains loose...
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saddlebag - 22 May 2007 00:14 GMT
On May 21, 6:39 pm, "Larry xlax Lovisone"
<nette...@combogusinfocast.net> wrote:

> I'm 58 and still prefer excitement in my ride... BTW we ain't bikers... we are
> riders... big difference Jr. Pudknocker

Odd, Debi doesn't sound like Demi?
Andrew - 22 May 2007 01:17 GMT
> On May 21, 6:39 pm, "Larry xlax Lovisone"
> <nette...@combogusinfocast.net> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Odd, Debi doesn't sound like Demi?

That's what I was thinking.
Isn't Debian a linux distro?

I will ride sportbikes until I can't ride no more.
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Jamin - 22 May 2007 05:40 GMT
> I will ride sportbikes until I can't ride no more.

Same here. I might very well ride other bikes in addition to sportbikes, but
I don't plan to ever give them up. Hell, I met a guy at a gas pump, I think
somewhere in CA on one of my trips, after chasing him through the
countryside for about 30 minutes. He was fast and smooth, much smoother than
me, and riding a Ducati racer (916 or similar). When we took off our helmets
at the gas station, I was amazed to see he was about 70 years old.

Good reality check. It can be done. You just have to want it bad enough.

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Jim S. - 24 May 2007 05:46 GMT
"Larry xlax Lovisone" <netters2@combogusinfocast.net> ... BTW we ain't
bikers...

Yeah, you would never catch me wearing a denim vest with a flying skull and
spandex shorts.
ewwww.
Jim Stinnett (55 year old and counting...not pedaling since 1967)
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NX250
R1100RS
Jamin - 24 May 2007 20:35 GMT
> Yeah, you would never catch me wearing a denim vest with a flying skull and
> spandex shorts.

We wouldn't catch you only because you ride so fast!

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jm s - 25 May 2007 06:05 GMT
>> Yeah, you would never catch me wearing a denim vest with a flying skull and
>> spandex shorts.
>
> We wouldn't catch you only because you ride so fast!

I have slowed down a bit since my misfortune in the mist. So perhaps
I need to find a nice deer free place to wick it up again.
Sears Point, Thunderhill, Buttonwillow? Yes, of course!
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TroytheTroll - 21 May 2007 23:49 GMT
> Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s?
> Hmm... most bikers see that way.

AMS doesn't represent "most bikers". Around here, people are riding
sportbikes with 1 leg, collecting social security and suffering from various
degree's of Alzheimers.

Youngsters around here are in their 40's.
tomorrow@erols.com - 22 May 2007 00:21 GMT
> Since I hooked into a sportbike - 1996 Yamaha YZF600R, I never looked
> back any types of bike. Now I upgraded to new R1. I'm middle of 30s,
> riding sportbike since 2002.

> Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s?
> Hmm... most bikers see that way.

Well, first off, sportbikes are not exclusively race replicas.  You
can ride any bike on the street at a sporting pace, and even if you
exclude all touring-specific, sport-touring specific, cruising, and
pure dirtbikes as not being sportbikes for the street, you are still
left with a lot of motorcycles to choose from besides pure roadracing
style streetbikes.

I would argue that for most street sport riders, it is both safer and
more enjoyable - not to mention probably faster from point to point -
to ride something OTHER than a pure race rep on the street.   The
ability to keep your head and eyes up with less effort reduces stress
and fatigue, and the comparative ease with which you can monitor the
back door lends another favorable aspect to a street-oriented sporting
ride.

Besides, if you are riding fast enough and hard enough to exploit the
inherent advantages of a pure race replica on the public streets
(i.e., the front weight bias and the ability to get out of the wind
blast behind a tiny race replica full fairing, while hanging off and
dragging knees) you probably SHOULDN'T be riding on the public
streets!
~kurt - 22 May 2007 05:08 GMT
> I'm in good shape. Couldn't find a good riding buddies in new place
> but I'll ride sportbike as long as I can. Recently, I've upgraded all

I keep trying to get rid of the bikes.  I know they are no good for me.
I keep going to the track - keep crashing.  People on the streets keep
trying to run over me with their big SUVs (seriously, you would not believe
what some of the indigenous personnel with their big fancy chromed out
SUVs will try to pull in this place as they are leaned way back in their
seat, up against the window , shucking and jiving on the cell phone,
imagining they are in some rap video cruising down the highway like a gangsta).

I haven't been able to put the ad in the paper to get rid of them though....
I guess this is what heroine must be like.

- Kurt
T.D. Hilton - 23 May 2007 13:43 GMT
<snip>

> Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s?
> Hmm... most bikers see that way.

That's crap. I'm 39 and have been riding sportbikes since I was 17. I have
no intention of stopping unless my body simply can't take it anymore, or I'm
a danger to myself. I'd like to have a nice cruiser but I'll never get rid
of the sportbike.
Bob Nixon - 23 May 2007 16:24 GMT
[...]

> Sportbikes are for lates 10s and early 30s?
> Hmm... most bikers see that way.

This is total bull or at least from an AMS perspective like Troy
stated. I'm the one legger he was talking about and I just changed
bikes to a smaller, lighter old RZ-350 but it's still a sport bike and
will prolly beat most new 600's up to 60 MPH. IOW, I wouldn't be
caught dead riding a heavy, low slung, slow, cruiser bike of any
brand. I started riding 50cc Honda step-thoughts when I graduated from
HS in 1963 and am now closing in on 62 years old. I consider a 700lb +
fully loaded cruiser to be more like a car than a bike. Goldwings are
so heavy they even have a reverse gear;)

And dude, bikes are not cheap to operate. Many 600cc sport bikes only
get in the 30-MPG range, with tires lasting only 3 to 5K and typically
run $300.00 per set. Maintenance costs are generally higher than cars
as well. Sport bikes particulary in the USA are used for mostly
recreational purposes.
MHF - 24 May 2007 23:55 GMT
>Since I hooked into a sportbike - 1996 Yamaha YZF600R, I never looked
>back any types of bike. Now I upgraded to new R1. I'm middle of 30s,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>I'm in good shape. Couldn't find a good riding buddies in new place
>but I'll ride sportbike as long as I can.

You make it sound like riding a sportbike is some amazing physical
feat. Try playing full court basketball at 45 against twenty
somethings. Now that takes physical stregnth and endurance. Ridng
*any* motorcycle on the street takes very little in the strength and
endurance department. Very little.  You have out of shape old guys and
girls riding everyday.  Put them on a basketball court and they
wouldn't last five minutes.  IMO there is no age limit for riding a
sport bike. If you can get out of bed and you are breathing that
should be enough to ride. The breathing portion is the most important
part.

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saddlebag - 25 May 2007 00:22 GMT
> >Since I hooked into a sportbike - 1996 Yamaha YZF600R, I never looked
> >back any types of bike. Now I upgraded to new R1. I'm middle of 30s,
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> should be enough to ride. The breathing portion is the most important
> part.

Riding one around the neighorhood sure.  Bring that Buell of yours
down to Tennessee sometime and we'll see how you feel at the end of
the day.
MHF - 25 May 2007 01:49 GMT
>> >Since I hooked into a sportbike - 1996 Yamaha YZF600R, I never looked
>> >back any types of bike. Now I upgraded to new R1. I'm middle of 30s,
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>down to Tennessee sometime and we'll see how you feel at the end of
>the day.

Oh puhleeze Saddle.  I work construction and play full court
basketball fer cryin out loud. I walk\run continually all day every
day when I check\shoot grades and do layout.  I don't sit in an office
and get out of shape. Riding a street bike is something I do when I
don't want to break a sweat. It is about as hard as Fishing.

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BrianNZ - 25 May 2007 01:54 GMT
>>>> Since I hooked into a sportbike - 1996 Yamaha YZF600R, I never looked
>>>> back any types of bike. Now I upgraded to new R1. I'm middle of 30s,
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
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Whats the furtherest youv'e ridden in one go?

You may find that your 'natural' fitness doesn't help when you are stuck
in the same position all day. How far do you get on the Buell before
comfort becomes an issue?.....Nice soft seat?....no annoying
vibrations?.......no high speed wind blast?......no inclement weather to
chill you?
~kurt - 25 May 2007 02:28 GMT
> You may find that your 'natural' fitness doesn't help when you are stuck
> in the same position all day. How far do you get on the Buell before

That is why I found backroads with some twisties less fatiguing than
a highway - I can move around a little here and there.

I really need another bike - one that I can just point in a direction and
get lost on for a few weeks.  Something with some ground clearance, the
ability to hold saddlebags, gets good mileage, and that you can be on
for 600 miles at a time with no problems.

- Kurt
TroytheTroll - 25 May 2007 02:37 GMT
>> You may find that your 'natural' fitness doesn't help when you are stuck
>> in the same position all day. How far do you get on the Buell before
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> ability to hold saddlebags, gets good mileage, and that you can be on
> for 600 miles at a time with no problems.

Oh heck, I use my trackbike for that kinda duty.
~kurt - 25 May 2007 13:01 GMT
> Oh heck, I use my trackbike for that kinda duty.

My track bike is a real torture rack.  The street bike is just a bit
better.

- Kurt
BrianNZ - 25 May 2007 02:37 GMT
>> You may find that your 'natural' fitness doesn't help when you are stuck
>> in the same position all day. How far do you get on the Buell before
>
> That is why I found backroads with some twisties less fatiguing than
> a highway - I can move around a little here and there.

Good point. Luckily down here even the main roads are twisty (with some
exceptions). I'd hate to ride a sportsbike on long flat roads for hours
on end.

> I really need another bike - one that I can just point in a direction and
> get lost on for a few weeks.  Something with some ground clearance, the
> ability to hold saddlebags, gets good mileage, and that you can be on
> for 600 miles at a time with no problems.
>
> - Kurt

Looks like it's GS BMW time for you!

I find the hardest part is getting the time off work/family to get away
on my own. Maybe in 10 years.........
~kurt - 25 May 2007 13:03 GMT
> Looks like it's GS BMW time for you!

I read the recent SportRider article on the Ducati Multistrada MTS 1100S
with great interest....  But yea, some of the BMWs are on my mind.

- Kurt
Jamin - 25 May 2007 03:06 GMT
> That is why I found backroads with some twisties less fatiguing than
> a highway - I can move around a little here and there.

Interstates are killers. I'd rather do 400 miles of twisty roads than 200
miles of interstate.

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Andrew - 25 May 2007 03:09 GMT
>> That is why I found backroads with some twisties less fatiguing than
>> a highway - I can move around a little here and there.
>
> Interstates are killers. I'd rather do 400 miles of twisty roads than 200
> miles of interstate.

I agree

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TroytheTroll - 25 May 2007 04:23 GMT
>> That is why I found backroads with some twisties less fatiguing than
>> a highway - I can move around a little here and there.
>
> Interstates are killers. I'd rather do 400 miles of twisty roads than 200
> miles of interstate.

Me too. But MAN can you cover ground on the silly things.
Jamin - 25 May 2007 07:59 GMT
> Me too. But MAN can you cover ground on the silly things.

Yeah... almost like somebody PLANNED it that way. ;)

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TroytheTroll - 25 May 2007 14:16 GMT
>> Me too. But MAN can you cover ground on the silly things.
>
> Yeah... almost like somebody PLANNED it that way. ;)

Isn't it wild how that works?
Jamin - 25 May 2007 03:07 GMT
> I really need another bike - one that I can just point in a direction and
> get lost on for a few weeks.  Something with some ground clearance, the
> ability to hold saddlebags, gets good mileage, and that you can be on
> for 600 miles at a time with no problems.

Try an R1! Works for me... ;)

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tomorrow@erols.com - 25 May 2007 15:29 GMT
> > I really need another bike - one that I can just point in a direction and
> > get lost on for a few weeks.  Something with some ground clearance, the
> > ability to hold saddlebags, gets good mileage, and that you can be on
> > for 600 miles at a time with no problems.
>
> Try an R1! Works for me... ;)

Or a Ducati 998R.  NIce little touring rig when you slap some
saddlebags on it.  Just like goin' fishin'.  Great for little 800 mile
blast on the interstate, too.........
 
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