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RZ-350, new top end working great

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Bob Nixon - 25 Jun 2007 19:20 GMT
It cost over $1000.00 but after my 100 mile ride Sunday I pulled the
plugs and they looked clean with just a light tan on the insulators. I
did push the redline once on a Freeway on ramp but those pipes won't
let it go much over 10,000RPM. It it just kinda dies out. Kind of a
built in rev limiter, The rings seem broke in now, with no visible
smoke running it in the garage and my friend tailing me said he he
didn't see any smoke even when I accellerated but did smell the
classic 2 stroke, of course. My canyon ride was my 1st with the thumb
rear brake and it works great or not too sensitive, just a subsitute
for the lack of compression braking so typical of a two stroke.The
bike seemed the handle a bit lighter, especially in the really tight
stuff than the Sprint but the front brake is not up to todays
standards (future HHpads may help). Parking and moving it around is a
snap compared to the 500+ lb Sprint, so that and getting the rear
brake was my biggest improvement (post deer accident), Vibration is
not bad at all for a twin. If I reach down and feel the motor it
vibrates more than the bars, seat and pegs would indicate.They must be
rubber mounted or something.

Bob Nixon, RZ-350, Chandler, AZ.
Jamin - 25 Jun 2007 21:00 GMT
> It cost over $1000.00 but after my 100 mile ride Sunday I pulled the
> plugs and they looked clean with just a light tan on the insulators. I
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> vibrates more than the bars, seat and pegs would indicate.They must be
> rubber mounted or something.

Sounds like you've got it sorted out, Bob. Good to hear!

The thumb brake sounds cool. Cable or hydraulic? Didn't Mick Doohan use a
thumb brake after banging up his legs pretty badly?

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Bob Nixon - 26 Jun 2007 16:25 GMT
> > It cost over $1000.00 but after my 100 mile ride Sunday I pulled the
> > plugs and they looked clean with just a light tan on the insulators. I
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The thumb brake is hydraulic and bolts into the banjo fitting where
the rear reservoir used to fit; now I have two brake fluid reservoirs
on the handle bar. No light for the thumb brake thought the light
still works on the foot brake. If someone is tailing me I have to
feather the front brake when I use the thumb brake when setting up my
corner speeds. Eventually as I get more used to the lack of
compression braking; I won't need to rely on the thumb brake except
for wet weather, sand and such.
Jamin - 26 Jun 2007 17:16 GMT
> The thumb brake is hydraulic and bolts into the banjo fitting where
> the rear reservoir used to fit; now I have two brake fluid reservoirs
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> compression braking; I won't need to rely on the thumb brake except
> for wet weather, sand and such.

That reminds me of a product I saw online recently. Hydraulic pressure
switch for brake light activation:

http://www.woodcraft-cfm.com/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=12773

I know what you mean about wanting to flash the brake if someone's trailing
you. I frequently do that when I'm in front of someone on a ride, especially
if I know the road and they don't, or if I happen to see a road hazard they
can't see yet.

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~kurt - 27 Jun 2007 02:02 GMT
> corner speeds. Eventually as I get more used to the lack of
> compression braking; I won't need to rely on the thumb brake except
> for wet weather, sand and such.

Yea, I was really surprised how strange it was approaching a turn on
my RS-125.  With no engine braking, the corner was sneaking up on me quicker
than I expected.

- Kurt
tomorrow@erols.com - 25 Jun 2007 22:41 GMT
> It cost over $1000.00 but after my 100 mile ride Sunday I pulled the
> plugs and they looked clean with just a light tan on the insulators. I
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> vibrates more than the bars, seat and pegs would indicate.They must be
> rubber mounted or something.

Wheelie good news!

Iirc, the bars are rubber mounted.  You might want to consider EBC
full-floater brake rotors, in conjunction with HH pads, and of course
- if you don't already have them, teflon/braided stainless steel
lines.  In my experience with racing EX500s with 2-piston calipers,
the EBC full-floaters made a bigger difference braking feel and power
than anything else.   Of course, with a Yamaha, you have LOTS of early-
model FZR600 front fork set-ups to choose from if you care to swap out
the entire front-end.  Even a TZ250 front end from around that time is
likely to be a direct bolt-on.

Glad to hear the bike is running so well.  Are you using synthetic 2-
stroke oil?  I found that to be an amazing improvement in smoke-free
riding and minimizing carbon deposits on plugs, piston crowns, and
exhaust ports.
Bob Nixon - 26 Jun 2007 16:13 GMT
On Jun 25, 2:41 pm, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor...@erols.com> wrote:

> > It cost over $1000.00 but after my 100 mile ride Sunday I pulled the
> > plugs and they looked clean with just a light tan on the insulators. I
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> the entire front-end.  Even a TZ250 front end from around that time is
> likely to be a direct bolt-on.

Like all big metros, we had plenty of MC salvage yards then there is a
whole network of parts, just for the RZ series, like aftermarket
stinger pipes and such.

> Glad to hear the bike is running so well.  Are you using synthetic 2-
> stroke oil?  I found that to be an amazing improvement in smoke-free
> riding and minimizing carbon deposits on plugs, piston crowns, and
> exhaust ports.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for the tips, Tim and yes I use full synthetic T2 in the oil
tank.
Andy Burnett - 26 Jun 2007 05:45 GMT
Bob Nixon <bigrex2005@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1182795649.545673.255630
@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

> It cost over $1000.00 but after my 100 mile ride Sunday I pulled the
> plugs and they looked clean with just a light tan on the insulators.

Congratulations!  Sounds like a ton of fun lies ahead.  Like Tim said,
Yamahas are pretty good parts-bin engineering bikes and bits and pieces of
other bikes often bolt right on.

I've taken a sudden interest in breathing new life into older machinery.  I
may have something a little wierd to report about my ST1100 in a few weeks.

ab
Bob Nixon - 26 Jun 2007 16:15 GMT
On Jun 25, 9:45 pm, Andy Burnett
<tzri...@DONTEVENTHINKABOUTSPAMMINGyahoo.com> wrote:
> Bob Nixon <bigrex2...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1182795649.545673.255630
> @z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
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> ab

Thanks, Andy. I'll be looking forward to your report.
Albrecht - 26 Jun 2007 18:37 GMT
>I did push the redline once on a Freeway on ramp but those pipes won't
>let it go much over 10,000RPM. It it just kinda dies out. Kind of a
>built in rev limiter

The angle of the baffle cone, diameter and length of the stinger and the
restrictor of the silencer can be used to limit RPM.

If you wanted to uncork it, you could safely get 72 horsepower at 12.5 K.
 
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