Hey, I was wondering if anyone could tell me where to get air for my tires?
I don't want this polluted sh.t that we have to breath, only pure high
quality
stuff to protect the inside of my tires. And how much you think it will
cost,
the pure stuff?
Albrecht - 27 Jun 2007 17:02 GMT
>Hey, I was wondering if anyone could tell me where to get air for my tires?
>I don't want this polluted sh.t that we have to breath, only pure high
>quality
>stuff to protect the inside of my tires. And how much you think it will
>cost,
>the pure stuff?
Ask your tire dealer how much dry nitrogen costs. The discount tire store up
the road has a sign advertising that they will fill your tires with nitrogen.
If you fill your tires with compressed air, you're putting in 80% nitrogen,
and 20% oxygen.
Why buy nitrogen, if you can get it for free?
Some people think that racers use nitrogen because it somehow makes the tires
"run cooler".
Actually, bottled nitrogen is *dry* and the compressed air in most tires has
some moisture in it.
On the racetrack, tires will get hot enough to boil this moisture,turning it
into steam, and raising the tire pressure.
Raising the tire pressure reduces the area of the tire's contact patch.
But, who drives (or rides) hard enough on the street to get their tires over
212 degrees?
Andrew - 27 Jun 2007 18:00 GMT
>>Hey, I was wondering if anyone could tell me where to get air for my
>>tires?
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> over
> 212 degrees?
It would have to be much higher than 212F.
The tire is under pressure, so the boiling point goes up.

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Albrecht - 27 Jun 2007 18:52 GMT
>It would have to be much higher than 212F.
>The tire is under pressure, so the boiling point goes up.
That's true. The BP goes up to 274 degrees at 30 PSIG and 287 at 40 PSIG.
The sulfur that glues strands of rubber together during the vulcanization
process re-melts at 239 degrees F.
I hope you won't tell Mr. Spock, but I have de-vulcanized race compound
Dunlops on Willow Springs...
Andrew - 27 Jun 2007 19:27 GMT
>>It would have to be much higher than 212F.
>>The tire is under pressure, so the boiling point goes up.
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> I hope you won't tell Mr. Spock, but I have de-vulcanized race compound
> Dunlops on Willow Springs...
I've never measured my tire temps after coming off the track.
Lately I've been running SuperCorsa Race SC2's.
I wonder how hot they get out there.
They are gummy and warm as hell, but I don't think they are anywhere close
to 200 degrees.
How hot do tire warmers keep the tires?
Now in F1 they heat the whole wheel in a oven then put on the tires and then
cover the whole wheel in electric warmers. This just started happening last
year, with Renault, and now they all do it.

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Albrecht - 27 Jun 2007 21:50 GMT
>How hot do tire warmers keep the tires?
http://www.sportsbike.com.au/tire_warmers_podium.html
Temperature control by 75*C (167*F) Fixed Temperature Thermostat.
They get tyres to target temperature quickly, usually 15 - 20 minutes.
They get rims to target temperature quickly, usually 20 - 25 minutes.
If you just left your wheels in the sun at Willow Springs in August, they
would get up to 150 degrees in about an hour. Theywould get up to operating
temperature on the warm up lap.
But December and January are a different story. Tire warmers would be nice
for that first practice session in January.
~kurt - 28 Jun 2007 03:09 GMT
> If you just left your wheels in the sun at Willow Springs in August, they
> would get up to 150 degrees in about an hour. Theywould get up to operating
> temperature on the warm up lap.
So, then the question is, should the tire pressure be set while the tires
are baking in the sun, or while they are still in the shade?
- Kurt
Stephan Rose - 27 Jun 2007 19:09 GMT
> Hey, I was wondering if anyone could tell me where to get air for my tires?
> I don't want this polluted sh.t that we have to breath, only pure high
> quality
> stuff to protect the inside of my tires. And how much you think it will
> cost,
> the pure stuff?
Ok WTF is going on?
First license plate bracket...
Then the same moron tries to find some "lemon yellow" or other similar
fag colored helmet...
Now the next guy comes in here looking for PURE AIR for his tires!?!?
And this all in like one week????
Was there like a mass escape at some mental ward I am not aware of?

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Jamin - 27 Jun 2007 20:24 GMT
> Ok WTF is going on?
>
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>
> Was there like a mass escape at some mental ward I am not aware of?
I believe the one about air was a bonafide troll. The other ones may have
been too, for all I know.

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sdz;flkzxc.nm,v - 28 Jun 2007 16:50 GMT
> Hey, I was wondering if anyone could tell me where to get air for my
> tires?
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> cost,
> the pure stuff?
If you fill them totally full of sand they wont go flat or heat up.