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Motorcycle Forum / General / Sportbikes / December 2007New Bike Observations
I've hit a couple of dealerships in the last week to oogle the new wares. Here's my take: 1) B-King is the widest barge I've ever laid eyes on. You'd sooner pass a Gold Wing thru the eye of a needle... 2) The new CBR600 feels more radical to me than the damn Ducati Superbikes. 3) FZ1 is pretty trick. 4) Hypermotard is WAY trick. Too bad it has no fuel capacity. 5) Yami has actually started branding all their cruisers with the "Star" logo...marketing people are some silly f.cks. 6) I'm kinda diggin the new Raider except for the peculiar tire sizes. At least I have a pretty decent selection of rubber for the Warrior, Metzler seems to be the only ones making the unique molded rubber for the Raider. Black plastic pieces look much better than the silver ones pretending to be chrome. 7) New FJR has the coolest logo painted on it. Unfortunately, it only seems to come in some boring glittery black. 8) Even in boring black, the FJR looks like a supermodel sitting next to the plastic ugly fattness of the new Concours. 9) Everyone, Italians included, are using bright pastelly yellow. Duc used to have the deepest, richest, yellow I've ever seen. I'll bet the paint for the V-strom 600, ZX-600 and 1098 all come from the same jug. Wasn't the unfinished swingarm enough cost cutting?! 10) My idea of a perfect street rocket (sorry, the FJR is in fact the perfect streetbike) is still an XB12 Firebolt with a nice handlebar job. Dealer still only has the 07 at $10,495. The new ones have better oil cooling and hopefully improved steering lock and come in at $9995 list. God bless the Rotax... > I've hit a couple of dealerships in the last week to oogle the new > wares. Here's my take: Cool. > 1) B-King is the widest barge I've ever laid eyes on. You'd sooner > pass a Gold Wing thru the eye of a needle... You know, you can build bigger cars and any little old lady can drive it, not so with motorcycles. > 2) The new CBR600 feels more radical to me than the damn Ducati > Superbikes. Of course, Honda is racing. > 3) FZ1 is pretty trick. And is it still as expensive as past models? > 4) Hypermotard is WAY trick. Too bad it has no fuel capacity. Yeah, no sh.t. They make a really cool bike that you can ride anywhere. > 5) Yami has actually started branding all their cruisers with the > "Star" logo...marketing people are some silly f.cks. May the metric cruiser rot in hell. > 6) I'm kinda diggin the new Raider except for the peculiar tire > sizes. At least I have a pretty decent selection of rubber for the > Warrior, Metzler seems to be the only ones making the unique molded > rubber for the Raider. Black plastic pieces look much better than the > silver ones pretending to be chrome. ? > 7) New FJR has the coolest logo painted on it. Unfortunately, it only > seems to come in some boring glittery black. I find that hard to believe. > 8) Even in boring black, the FJR looks like a supermodel sitting next > to the plastic ugly fattness of the new Concours. See above. Bigger ain't better. > 9) Everyone, Italians included, are using bright pastelly yellow. Duc > used to have the deepest, richest, yellow I've ever seen. I'll bet > the paint for the V-strom 600, ZX-600 and 1098 all come from the same > jug. Wasn't the unfinished swingarm enough cost cutting?! You can't believe how ugly my mustard yellow Joe Rocket is. > 10) My idea of a perfect street rocket (sorry, the FJR is in fact the > perfect streetbike) is still an XB12 Firebolt with a nice handlebar > job. Dealer still only has the 07 at $10,495. The new ones have > better oil cooling and hopefully improved steering lock and come in at > $9995 list. God bless the Rotax... "street rocket" vs. "streetbike" Huh? Over on the VJMC (Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club) mailing list they are debating the what word "vintage" means. They are quite polite actually. > > 3) FZ1 is pretty trick. > > And is it still as expensive as past models? Were FZ1's ever expensive? I think it was 8 or 9k. > > 4) Hypermotard is WAY trick. Too bad it has no fuel capacity. > > Yeah, no sh.t. They make a really cool bike that you can ride anywhere. True, while the superior ST line was discontinued, the Multistrada lives on. The Hypermotard would be the much better bike with an extra couple gallon capacity. > > 5) Yami has actually started branding all their cruisers with the > > "Star" logo...marketing people are some silly f.cks. > > May the metric cruiser rot in hell. Star croozers rule. > > 6) I'm kinda diggin the new Raider except for the peculiar tire > > sizes. At least I have a pretty decent selection of rubber for the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I find that hard to believe. Well, at least it was the only color available at the dealership I visited. > > 8) Even in boring black, the FJR looks like a supermodel sitting next > > to the plastic ugly fattness of the new Concours. > > See above. Bigger ain't better. True dat. That Kawi looked like a cheap plastic toy next to the FJR. > > 9) Everyone, Italians included, are using bright pastelly yellow. Duc > > used to have the deepest, richest, yellow I've ever seen. I'll bet > > the paint for the V-strom 600, ZX-600 and 1098 all come from the same > > jug. Wasn't the unfinished swingarm enough cost cutting?! > > You can't believe how ugly my mustard yellow Joe Rocket is. I love yellow...I'm not a big fan of pastels. > > 10) My idea of a perfect street rocket (sorry, the FJR is in fact the > > perfect streetbike) is still an XB12 Firebolt with a nice handlebar [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > "street rocket" vs. "streetbike" Huh? Well, if I was out to set new speed records on my favorite twisties, I'd opt for the XB12. For every other conceivable riding situation I'd take the FJR. Of course I take the Warrior often just to be different and because barbed wire tattoos around my bicepts cost too much and require pain. I have enough of that just getting out of the bed anymore. > Over on the VJMC (Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club) mailing list they are > debating the what word "vintage" means. They are quite polite actually. A fancy word for "old" no? >> Over on the VJMC (Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club) mailing list they are >> debating the what word "vintage" means. They are quite polite actually. >A fancy word for "old" no? It apparently means a lot in the club rule book. Some are having a hard time with the older sportbikes meeting the definition based on their age alone. > > > 3) FZ1 is pretty trick. > > > And is it still as expensive as past models? > > Were FZ1's ever expensive? I think it was 8 or 9k. I really like the 07/08 FZ6 as well. It looks more like a standard than that the 1000. The 1000 is radical looking, and quite a performer, but looks a bit "neo-streetfigher." Nice bike, though. I'd like to see it with ABS and some Givi V35 sidebags. It would give the VFR a run for the title. > > > 4) Hypermotard is WAY trick. Too bad it has no fuel capacity. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Star croozers rule. I can't see what they rule, aside from their rider's ego and ideas about self-image. They are the wrong shape to turn well, which what makes motorcycles great. > > > 6) I'm kinda diggin the new Raider except for the peculiar tire > > > sizes. At least I have a pretty decent selection of rubber for the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Well, at least it was the only color available at the dealership I > visited. I think the automatic version comes in blue, or is it silver this year? I hear they fixed the heat thing, too. > > > 8) Even in boring black, the FJR looks like a supermodel sitting next > > > to the plastic ugly fattness of the new Concours. > > > See above. Bigger ain't better. > > True dat. That Kawi looked like a cheap plastic toy next to the FJR. The new Connie is halfway between a big touring bike and an fast touring bike, but it does manage to be both. It is a bit too bloated on the sides, for my tastes. I'd like to see it with a much more sleek front end. Or a ZX-14 with a little more wind protection and a few touring extras.... > > > 9) Everyone, Italians included, are using bright pastelly yellow. Duc > > > used to have the deepest, richest, yellow I've ever seen. I'll bet [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I love yellow...I'm not a big fan of pastels. I like yellow on big adv bikes like the Strom and BMW GS. Ducs are pretty enough to make it work, too. > > > 10) My idea of a perfect street rocket (sorry, the FJR is in fact the > > > perfect streetbike) is still an XB12 Firebolt with a nice handlebar [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > A fancy word for "old" no? One can be honorable, and still be biting. > > > > 5) Yami has actually started branding all their cruisers with the > > > > "Star" logo...marketing people are some silly f.cks. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > about self-image. They are the wrong shape to turn well, which what > makes motorcycles great. Nah, if Star owners had an ounce of self respect they'd ride Harleys. Yami's cruisers actually work. A little shy on ground clearance for really hauling a.s, but still way more than enough to get your license suspended for many months. > > > > > 5) Yami has actually started branding all their cruisers with the > > > > > "Star" logo...marketing people are some silly f.cks. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > really hauling a.s, but still way more than enough to get your license > suspended for many months. Oh yeah, the Hondas seem to work pretty well too with car tires: http://bp1.blogger.com/_LxZ4Mi3rR3Q/R00r2AE27CI/AAAAAAAAFMA/BA_vR7DJs4g/s1600-h/ img_6517.jpg > Oh yeah, the Hondas seem to work pretty well too with car tires: > > http://bp1.blogger.com/_LxZ4Mi3rR3Q/R00r2AE27CI/AAAAAAAAFMA/BA_vR7DJs4g/s1600-h/ img_6517.jpg Looks like with a lean angle that steep and a tire patch that small one stone of a wet leaf and down she goes. Ian Singer  Signature========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? ========================================================================= > 8) Even in boring black, the FJR looks like a supermodel sitting > next > to the plastic ugly fattness of the new Concours. Saddle!! I am quoting you correctly again! Did you change anything in your settings? Anyway, I like both. The Concours isn't that bad. > 10) My idea of a perfect street rocket (sorry, the FJR is in fact > the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > at > $9995 list. God bless the Rotax... What are you getting rid of? Anything, or collecting #3? >> 8) Even in boring black, the FJR looks like a supermodel sitting >> next >> to the plastic ugly fattness of the new Concours. > > Saddle!! I am quoting you correctly again! Did you change anything in > your settings? It looks like it is working to me. Looks like you tried Thunderbird for a bit, and are back to the MS Mail tool thing? - Kurt >>> 8) Even in boring black, the FJR looks like a supermodel sitting >>> next [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - Kurt guess what thunderbird does? When I bump into Stephan ( he lets me use his Giganews account to post ) it erased my username and password, whereas Outlook just gives me an error message, but DOESN'T reset the username/password. Great. So...as long as saddle's settings are something different, I would generally post from here. I'm going to try the other thing you mentioned next, see how it handles error messages from giganews. > > 8) Even in boring black, the FJR looks like a supermodel sitting > > next > > to the plastic ugly fattness of the new Concours. > > Saddle!! I am quoting you correctly again! Did you change anything in > your settings? Not a thing. I don't even think that Google allows you to change settings. If they do it's not obvious. > Anyway, I like both. The Concours isn't that bad. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > What are you getting rid of? Anything, or collecting #3? Nah, I'm happy with what I got for now. >> 8) Even in boring black, the FJR looks like a supermodel sitting next >> to the plastic ugly fattness of the new Concours. > > Saddle!! I am quoting you correctly again! Did you change anything in your > settings? You didn't catch what I said about his OPs being ok, it's his replies that are quoted-printable, and therefore you can't indent those posts when you reply. > Anyway, I like both. The Concours isn't that bad. I like the new connie too. > 10) My idea of a perfect street rocket (sorry, the FJR is in fact the > perfect streetbike) is still an XB12 Firebolt with a nice handlebar > job. Mine is a Ducati S4Rs Monster with full Termi 50mm system, Rizoma rearsets adjusted to the most forward and down position, Ducati Monster 695 oem saddle, DPL +16mm bar risers, and MV Agusta Brutale handlebars.[1] Whoa, effing, Nellie! [1] Those are just the mandatory changes. Having an Ohlins side-mount steering damper, Rizoma CF heel guards and Ducster900 custom CF shift linkage rod, Brembo racing billet brake and clutch master cylinders and Rizoma Reverse Retro bar-end mirrors, Zero Gravity dark smoke windscreen, PoorDucMan fairing stays, Ducati Performance CF rear fender, CarbonWorld CF bottom triple clamp air deflector, Shift-Tech CF headlight bucket and CF headlight ears, CF rear hugger, plus a DucPainter custom painted CF front fender, and (coming soon), DucPainter custom painted CF fairing, CF passenger seat cowl, CF sidecovers, and DP CF beer tray are all just icing on the cake! On Dec 26, 10:37 pm, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor...@erols.com> wrote: > > 10) My idea of a perfect street rocket (sorry, the FJR is in fact the > > perfect streetbike) is still an XB12 Firebolt with a nice handlebar [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > DucPainter custom painted CF fairing, CF passenger seat cowl, CF > sidecovers, and DP CF beer tray are all just icing on the cake! Yeah, the Duc with all the goodies is surely the better bike, but except for a blast down a long straight road there is nowhere it's extra power would be that useful on the street. And the no maintenance belt drive and lack of high dollar valve and belt maintenance give the Buell the edge. And there is that 4-5k out the door savings... > On Dec 26, 10:37 pm, "tomor...@erols.com" <tomor...@erols.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > except for a blast down a long straight road there is nowhere it's > extra power would be that useful on the street. Someday, I will own a duc. But the Buells, IMHO, makes a more practical street bike. If you can handle the height, test ride one of the "Super TTs". It's almost the same seat height as the Uly. But can easily be fixed with a Lightning Long seat which lowers it a bit over an inch. The extra 1" of suspension travel on the TT makes a WORLD of difference. Road Racing world named it the "Best American bike ever built". > And the no > maintenance belt drive and lack of high dollar valve and belt > maintenance give the Buell the edge. And there is that 4-5k out the > door savings... I do like the fact that my "winterizing" consists of just putting the bike in the garage :) > Someday, I will own a duc. But the Buells, IMHO, makes a more > practical [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > WORLD of difference. Road Racing world named it the "Best American > bike ever built". Sounds like being the worlds tallest midget. At the end of the day, you are still short. Now....get Buells new engine in there...and we'll talk. >> And the no >> maintenance belt drive and lack of high dollar valve and belt [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I do like the fact that my "winterizing" consists of just putting > the bike in the garage :) Same here. I do more preparation putting the cage away for 2 months than I do the bikes. > If you can handle the height, test ride one of the "Super > TTs". It's almost the same seat height as the Uly. But can easily be > fixed with a Lightning Long seat which lowers it a bit over an inch. The > extra 1" of suspension travel on the TT makes a WORLD of difference. > Road Racing world named it the "Best American bike ever built". Ya know, the Buells always seem to get good reviews lately, but I ran across one last night while digging thru old magazines that I had apparently missed. It was a long term test of the Uly done by MCN. They rode the bike 17.5k miles and gave the low down. 1. Broken kickstand. Buell replaced with a newer design as part of a factory recall. 2. Broken clutch cable. I hate cable actuated clutches. Had my Warrior stranded me with one in BFE just last fall. Had a whopping 3k miles on it. 3. Remarkable rim rode 20 miles on a flat tire and wasn't damaged by the experiece. These rims are apparently beefier than the the standard wheels for off road antics. 4. Heat and noise from the right side just at thigh level rival a 1000W hair dryer. Don't wear air pants or jeans on this one on a hot day. Supposedly, an attempt to correct this problem was made for the 2008 model. Standby for results. 5. Drive belt guard screws backed out. 6. License plate light housing broke away from the mounting points. 7. Muffler housed solenoid controlled backpressure valve developed intermittent failures. 8. Bike required 1.5 quarts of oil over the last 5k mile change interval. 9. 14.5k miles front brake pads required replacement. 10. Another kickstand broke, probably due to using footpeg like a stirrup to mount the tall bike. 11. At 15k miles the bike's engine would suddenly die. Problem seemed to be remedied by replacing a recalled "Bank Angle Sensor." This doodad kills the party if a lean angle of > 55° is detected. 12. At 17k miles, both nuts securing an exhaust flange to the cylinder vibrated off. The nuts were replaced then the stud broke off. Magazine claims the nuts were not over tightened. 13. Muffler clamp broke. 14. First gear too tall and remaining gear ratios too far apart for good dirtbike manners. It does seem like the vibration is too much for many of the parts to handle. I remember watching a Discovery channel show documenting the development testing of the V-rod where they put it on a shaker table and let all hell break loose on it for very long periods of time to simulate a lifetime of abuse. Apparently, the Uly didn't undergo this test. While the overall opinion of the bike's riding characteristics were still high, most wouldn't trust straying far from Harley shops with it. Unfortunately, that doesn't speak very well for an "Adventure Tourer." Too bad. >> If you can handle the height, test ride one of the "Super >> TTs". It's almost the same seat height as the Uly. But can easily be [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > 1. Broken kickstand. Buell replaced with a newer design as part of a > factory recall. '07s have a new kickstand design. The '06 kickstands were recalled. > 2. Broken clutch cable. I hate cable actuated clutches. Had my > Warrior stranded me with one in BFE just last fall. Had a whopping 3k > miles on it. You do need to lube the cable near the brake handle, or they tend to break. I am on my 2nd clutch cable on my S3T after 30K now. The TT & CityX both have the originals with about 10K on 'em. > 3. Remarkable rim rode 20 miles on a flat tire and wasn't damaged by > the experiece. These rims are apparently beefier than the the > standard wheels for off road antics. Yup, the Uly's have beefier rims. > 4. Heat and noise from the right side just at thigh level rival a > 1000W hair dryer. Don't wear air pants or jeans on this one on a hot > day. Supposedly, an attempt to correct this problem was made for the > 2008 model. Standby for results. Wrapping the pipe, and adding the new "heat deflecters" (Like $15) greatly reduce the heat to the right leg. The Fan is loud, I wont argue that. > 5. Drive belt guard screws backed out. > > 6. License plate light housing broke away from the mounting points. Mine has lost some of the screws that hold the lower chin spoiler on. But nothing serious. Now I just use some blue locktite on 'em > 7. Muffler housed solenoid controlled backpressure valve developed > intermittent failures. My TT came with a noisy valve. The dealer replaced the muffler with no questions asked. But I have yet to put in on, since I have the "race" muffler on it now. > 8. Bike required 1.5 quarts of oil over the last 5k mile change > interval. By what I've learned, it seems break in is *VERY* important to the air cooled lumps. On both my XBs I just rode 'em around with heavy/under load acceleration, but just short shifted 'em at 4K until about 800 miles. > 9. 14.5k miles front brake pads required replacement. They got more out of their pads then I did out of mine. Mine needed replacement at around 7500. I replaced mine with Lyndalls that don't tend to leave deposits on the rotors. The stock Buell pads work fine for every day riding, but will leave some slight deposits on the rotor after a few track days. The Lyndalls actually clean those deposits off. > 10. Another kickstand broke, probably due to using footpeg like a > stirrup to mount the tall bike. > > 11. At 15k miles the bike's engine would suddenly die. Problem > seemed to be remedied by replacing a recalled "Bank Angle Sensor." > This doodad kills the party if a lean angle of > 55° is detected. Yup. Another recall. My friend who worked at Buell was the one who figured out why they were failing. > 12. At 17k miles, both nuts securing an exhaust flange to the cylinder > vibrated off. The nuts were replaced then the stud broke off. > Magazine claims the nuts were not over tightened. Hmmm, I'd question that. But not out of the question. > 13. Muffler clamp broke. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > it. Unfortunately, that doesn't speak very well for an "Adventure > Tourer." Too bad. The '06s had some teething problems, that's for sure. I haven't had nearly that many problems even on my "unreliable" tube frame/S3T. >While the overall opinion of the bike's riding characteristics were >still high, most wouldn't trust straying far from Harley shops with >it. Unfortunately, that doesn't speak very well for an "Adventure >Tourer." Too bad. Could be worse, they could be as reliable as the older Buells.... > I've hit a couple of dealerships in the last week to oogle the new > wares. Here's my take: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 2) The new CBR600 feels more radical to me than the damn Ducati > Superbikes. They won best race rep this year. No compromize, I guess? > 3) FZ1 is pretty trick. Ride one sometime. They're a POS with that weak in the knees on the bottom end R1 engine and vibrate like hell. I thing Yammi is the only big 4 mfg with non-counter rotating balance shafts. It's a buzzer and always was. > 4) Hypermotard is WAY trick. Too bad it has no fuel capacity. They look neat but ain't you a short feller? > 5) Yami has actually started branding all their cruisers with the > "Star" logo...marketing people are some silly f.cks. You're to young to be so taken by cruisers, Saddle:) > 6) I'm kinda diggin the new Raider except for the peculiar tire > sizes. At least I have a pretty decent selection of rubber for the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 7) New FJR has the coolest logo painted on it. Unfortunately, it only > seems to come in some boring glittery black. I like the new black. It makes the bike look smaller and more understated. Up close it is a big bike though. My VFR buddy loves his new one but says it's no VFR in the handling department. > 8) Even in boring black, the FJR looks like a supermodel sitting next > to the plastic ugly fattness of the new Concours. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the paint for the V-strom 600, ZX-600 and 1098 all come from the same > jug. Wasn't the unfinished swingarm enough cost cutting?! Gimmi, Red, silver, black or white without the bling crap. > 10) My idea of a perfect street rocket (sorry, the FJR is in fact the > perfect streetbike) is still an XB12 Firebolt with a nice handlebar > job. Dealer still only has the 07 at $10,495. The new ones have > better oil cooling and hopefully improved steering lock and come in at > $9995 list. God bless the Rotax... ----------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That we'll have to wait & see about. SignatureBob Nixon, RZ-350, SV-650, Chandler, AZ. > >> 3) FZ1 is pretty trick. > > Ride one sometime. They're a POS with that weak in the knees on the bottom > end R1 engine and vibrate like hell. I thing Yammi is the only big 4 mfg > with non-counter rotating balance shafts. It's a buzzer and always was. From what I have seen, all of their trannys whine really loud. I thought the YZF600R was a great bike though. > I like the new black. It makes the bike look smaller and more understated. > Up close it is a big bike though. My VFR buddy loves his new one but says > it's no VFR in the handling department. The only thing I don't like about black is it is harder for people to see at night. - Kurt > The only thing I don't like about black is it is harder for people to see > at night. > > - Kurt Try turning on your lights. > > The only thing I don't like about black is it is harder for people to see > > at night. > > > - Kurt > > Try turning on your lights. A little reflective tape goes a long way, too. Solas tape can be purchased in black/grey and it looks almost invisible during day, but almost back lit at night. Cut it in fun shapes or lines and customize your ride/helmet/cases. >> "~kurt" <actinouran...@earthlink.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Try turning on your lights. The problem seemed to be with people seeing me from the side. Especially when just behind, and next to me. > A little reflective tape goes a long way, too. Solas tape can be > purchased in black/grey and it looks almost invisible during day, but > almost back lit at night. > > Cut it in fun shapes or lines and customize your ride/helmet/cases. I had reflective tape on my helmet, had a jacket with that reflective stuff on it, and even put a reflector on the backpack. Still, the red/silver RC51 is much more visible at night. Another problem my all black YZF600R had - people had backed into it twice in the parking lot. It was just invisible at night. - Kurt > > 3) FZ1 is pretty trick. > > Ride one sometime. They're a POS with that weak in the knees on the bottom > end R1 engine and vibrate like hell. I thing Yammi is the only big 4 mfg > with non-counter rotating balance shafts. It's a buzzer and always was. I've ridden a couple of them. And yes they were a little soft on the bottom. Still, the bike looks and feels right in the showroom. > > 4) Hypermotard is WAY trick. Too bad it has no fuel capacity. > > They look neat but ain't you a short feller? The bike is skinny. While the FJR is a little lower, its girth makes it everybit as hard to find the ground for stubby legs. > > 5) Yami has actually started branding all their cruisers with the > > "Star" logo...marketing people are some silly f.cks. > > You're to young to be so taken by cruisers, Saddle:) You gotta understand. My riding consists of a lot more straight roads than your daily jaunt out to the lake. Besides you oughta try something new from time to time. > I like the new black. It makes the bike look smaller and more understated. > Up close it is a big bike though. My VFR buddy loves his new one but says > it's no VFR in the handling department. It's all what you get used to. The FJR actually steers a pretty light compared to the Ducs. When I ride really flickable bikes like ZX-10s and Ninja 650s I can barely keep the things on the road at quick pace. Unlike most guitarists, SRV used strings fat enough to bring a tear to most players eye. I reckon they were OK for him though. > > 8) Even in boring black, the FJR looks like a supermodel sitting next > > to the plastic ugly fattness of the new Concours. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Gimmi, Red, silver, black or white without the bling crap. Yeller and black for me. > > 10) My idea of a perfect street rocket (sorry, the FJR is in fact the > > perfect streetbike) is still an XB12 Firebolt with a nice handlebar [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > ----------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > That we'll have to wait & see about. I meant that because it's lowering the cost of the tractor engined models I'm happy. |
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