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(SF Bay Area, CA) Doc Wong Certified First Aid/CPR for     Motorcyclists!! Sat, Oct 4, 2008

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docwong2002@gmail.com - 03 Sep 2008 18:38 GMT
Doc Wong Certified First Aid/CPR for Motorcyclists!! Sat, Oct 4, 2008

Hi,

Most of us have been there....on a ride and someone goes down. You
see
that cloud of dust or the rider is in front of you and you get that
sinking, oh s....t feeling and hope it's not too bad.

But what if the injuries are bad? Are you prepared to assist? Will you
do
the right thing? It can mean the difference between life and death,
minor
or major injuries. There's an even more important procedure than
tending
to the fallen rider, what's that?

Learn what to do and not do when the unexpected happens. What's the
very
first thing you must do even before attending to the fallen rider. How
do
you handle road rash, fractures, and bleeding. When should you remove
the
helmet? What about spinal injuries, shock and much more.

This is a power packed workshop, hands on, First Aid and CPR class
geared
for you. So you can be ready for the worst, but of course hope for the
best!

We'll even go over what you should have in your First Aid kits!

This 5 hour First Aid / CPR course which will help you in handling the
most
common First Aid / CPR situations that you encounter as a
motorcyclist!

To top it off, you'll get a CPR certification (2 year, American Heart
Assn.)!! Certification for First Aid is also available!

If you are an EMT, I need volunteer instructors to help out! The
number of
volunteers will determine the number of students I can have.

So e-mail me if you're an EMT (Emergency Medical Technician).

What: Doc Wong Certified First Aid/CPR for Motorcyclists!
When: Saturday, October 4, 2008
Time: 9am to 3pm
Where: Doc Wong's office at 1391 Woodside Road, Suite 200 Redwood
City, CA
94028
Cost: $35 (add $10 if you want the First Aid Certification)
How to sign up: e-mail docwong@aol.com

Proceeds to Sponsor Leatherneck Racing, i.e. Gary Jaehne's racing
efforts!
Go Gary!

We had this class last year which was unbelieveable! It was the BEST
First
Aid class I've ever been to.

They really geared the class for motorcyclists and motorcycling
situations.
It was so close to being a certified class that this year I just
added
another hour and you get the certification too!

Ride street, ride track, ride dirt, trials.....ride.....well!

Doc Wong
Active Life Medical-Chiropractic and Natural Medicine
1391 Woodside Road, Ste 200, Redwood City, CA (650) 365-7775

Free exams and consultations offered if you're having pain while
riding or having neck, back or other sports injuries issues

Check out the stuff on the Doc Wong (Free) Riding Clinics on my web
site! http://www.docwong.com

Note: Photos for "Doc Wong Crashes" and the "Doc Wong Message Board"
are now on my web site.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To get the latest announcements on my Riding Clinics subscribe to the
Doc-Ride Mail-list!

Go to:  http://www.micapeak.com/lists/doc-ride
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**Special acknowledgement and thanks to:

Keith Code of California Superbike Schools for his help and guidence
and support. The Doc Wong Street Riding Clinics are almost all based
on his works. Get his books and tapes on the subject, read them and
apply them....your riding will be much better for it!
www.californiasuperbikeschool.com

Gary Jaehne for his contributions on the Suspension clinics and in his
book: "Sportbiking:  The Real World"....great reading.

Helimot Leathers:  The leathers I use and consider the best!
http://www.helimot.com/aboutus/index.shtml

Aftershocks Suspension where I take my suspension!
http://www.aftershocks-suspension.com/pages/about.htm

Repsol oils, the Moto GP oils that I now exclusively use on all my
bikes!

And special acknowledgement to L. Ron Hubbard who has provided me with
the vital tools to be effective in life, making it possible for me to
be successful in family, work and my passion for motorcycling!
Bob Nixon - 03 Sep 2008 20:38 GMT
On Sep 3, 10:38 am, docwong2...@gmail.com wrote:
> Doc Wong Certified First Aid/CPR for Motorcyclists!! Sat, Oct 4, 2008
>
[quoted text clipped - 105 lines]
> the vital tools to be effective in life, making it possible for me to
> be successful in family, work and my passion for motorcycling!

This is a money maker ($35 per) Doc, which definately qualifies it as
spam. Watch your step motorcycle related on not.

Bob Nixon,
Joey Tribiani - 04 Sep 2008 02:23 GMT
> This is a money maker ($35 per) Doc, which definately qualifies it as
> spam. Watch your step motorcycle related on not.
>
> Bob Nixon,

if you want to play net nanny, remember your attitude toward this on topic
advertisement when you wish to post off topic.... the charter forbids that
also...
Bob Nixon - 04 Sep 2008 07:27 GMT
>  > This is a money maker ($35 per) Doc, which definately qualifies it as
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> advertisement when you wish to post off topic.... the charter forbids that
> also...

What charter??? This one, unlike most his other SPAM is asking for
money to attend.

Bob..
Joey Tribiani - 05 Sep 2008 03:07 GMT
> What charter??? This one, unlike most his other SPAM is asking for
> money to attend.

come on bob, *every* usenet group every started was started by someone and
you had to register a charter to keep the group current... they were all
pretty generic and all of them contained guidelines that forbid "off topic"
posts as well as spam.... not that the usenet police will get you for
breaking them, but if you are gonna throw it out there, you should be
abiding by it..
buzz - 04 Sep 2008 03:15 GMT
> On Sep 3, 10:38 am, docwong2...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Doc Wong Certified First Aid/CPR for Motorcyclists!! Sat, Oct 4, 2008

[...]

> This is a money maker ($35 per) Doc, which definately qualifies it as
> spam. Watch your step motorcycle related on not.
>
> Bob Nixon,

> Vote yes or no and I'll shut up if you want to keep Doc's ads and work
> to remove them if it goes the other way around.

We voted. Shut up.

-buzz
Bob Nixon - 04 Sep 2008 07:41 GMT
> > On Sep 3, 10:38 am, docwong2...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Doc Wong Certified First Aid/CPR for Motorcyclists!! Sat, Oct 4, 2008
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> -buzz

Have you got a "terd" in your pocket? The vote was pretty equal as I
recall. If there had been all negative votes I would shut up but this
one of Doc's post is especially SPAM becasue he''s asking $35 a head
to attend. That't internet news group advertising or SPAM, a definate
voilation of the USENET rules.

cc: Google spam Abuse!

Bob Nixon
Battleax - 04 Sep 2008 13:39 GMT
Bob Nixon - 04 Sep 2008 17:28 GMT
You forgot to say anything, Battleax but let's just assume it was
intended as your usual drivle:)

Bob Nixon...
Bob Nixon - 04 Sep 2008 18:00 GMT
> You forgot to say anything, Battleax but let's just assume it was
> intended as your usual drivle:)
>
> Bob Nixon...

BTW, for all you Doc defenders except for Joey, you don't spent enough
posting/responding to AMS to make your whining worth a hoot anyway..

Bob.
.
Joey Tribiani - 05 Sep 2008 03:09 GMT
>> You forgot to say anything, Battleax but let's just assume it was
>> intended as your usual drivle:)
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> BTW, for all you Doc defenders except for Joey, you don't spent enough
> posting/responding to AMS to make your whining worth a hoot anyway..

so if we incessantly whine as you've been doing for the past couple years,
we are more worthy?  My post was not whining, the whining was coming from
you about  the clinic being offered... don't like it, kill the posters
address, or just shut up...
Bob Nixon - 05 Sep 2008 06:16 GMT
> >> You forgot to say anything, Battleax but let's just assume it was
> >> intended as your usual drivle:)
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> you about  the clinic being offered... don't like it, kill the posters
> address, or just shut up...

That's not all I post about,  Joey. In fact, The Doc Wong bitches are
a definate minority to my other post/contributions.

Bob.. BTW, why are you defending him so adimately. He''s a non
responding SPAMER, nothing more, nothing less. The guys who post off
topic including you are at least "involved" in AMS, not just one way
proselytizing & pandering like Doc Wong does.
Joey Tribiani - 07 Sep 2008 04:49 GMT
>> so if we incessantly whine as you've been doing for the past couple
>> years,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> That's not all I post about,  Joey. In fact, The Doc Wong bitches are
> a definate minority to my other post/contributions.

never said that was *all* you post, Bob... but ironically when i retrieved
new messages today the very first one was "Testing of Cox ISP news: please
ignore" by "Bob Nixon1"...
the message was "Yeah, I know there's a test group but I'm not subscribed to
it yet.

Bob Nixon.. "

I guess you really do feel you are above what you preach.... you don't like
certain posters, kill file them... you are in no position to complain about
posts that don't belong in this group when you constantly contribute to (and
start) topics that "don't belong" in this group.... and that, sir, was my
only point, but you took offense and resorted to insulting my post because
you don't agree with it... that's a real class act, Bob...
Bob Nixon - 07 Sep 2008 06:18 GMT
> >> so if we incessantly whine as you've been doing for the past couple
> >> years,
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> only point, but you took offense and resorted to insulting my post because
> you don't agree with it... that's a real class act, Bob...

Yes Joey, I guess I feel 8 years without any break in this NG entitles
me to break the rules once in awhile (if for no other reason than to
engender more activity) and I feel being crippled @ 63 years old by a
deer and still riding in the top level (upper 25%). And dude, I've
personally met & ridden with more people in this group than anyone
else here, so yeah, I'm feel somewhat privileged as much as that may
piss some of you tykes in AMS off. Did you catch my point there Joey &
other distracters?

Bob Nixon..
Joey Tribiani - 07 Sep 2008 07:28 GMT
> Yes Joey, I guess I feel 8 years without any break in this NG entitles
> me to break the rules once in awhile (if for no other reason than to
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Bob Nixon..

sorry Bob... hate to bust your bubble, but you *thinking* you deserve some
kinda special treatment due to length of time here(pup) or because you
survived an accident, is bullshit... abide by the rules or shut up about
others not doing so.... "did you catch my point" bob? (good luck on the
pissing me off, you ain't got it in ya)
Bob Nixon - 07 Sep 2008 08:05 GMT
>  >
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> others not doing so.... "did you catch my point" bob? (good luck on the
> pissing me off, you ain't got it in ya)

I wasn't trying to piss you off, Joey. You're one of the good new guys
as far as I'm concerned but like most Americans you don't respect
those who made your life easier and safeer (no more cold war/ Soviet
Union to worry about). But My own PRIDE is my undoing and I'll be the
1st to admit it. Remember to respect your elders as they do in other
countries. Age = wisdom. evven in an age where written text keeps the
ball rolling at hyperspeed. I haven't forgot about technology and try
to keep up with or ahead of the curve, inspite of my years and
condition.

Bob Nixon..
Joey Tribiani - 07 Sep 2008 20:05 GMT
> I wasn't trying to piss you off, Joey. You're one of the good new guys
> as far as I'm concerned but like most Americans you don't respect
> those who made your life easier and safeer (no more cold war/ Soviet
> Union to worry about).

that's pretty presumptuous on your part Bob.

>But My own PRIDE is my undoing and I'll be the
> 1st to admit it. Remember to respect your elders as they do in other
> countries. Age = wisdom. evven in an age where written text keeps the
> ball rolling at hyperspeed. I haven't forgot about technology and try
> to keep up with or ahead of the curve, inspite of my years and
> condition.

I do respect my elders, but respect is not equal to free run...
Ed - 07 Sep 2008 17:29 GMT
>> Yes Joey, I guess I feel 8 years without any break in this NG entitles
>> me to break the rules once in awhile (if for no other reason than to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> about others not doing so.... "did you catch my point" bob? (good luck on
> the pissing me off, you ain't got it in ya)

Dude,

Bob wasn't ever spamming which is the only thing I care about.  And the
reular longtime contributors DO have more USENET street cred than spammers
and weasels.  It's informal but that is how it has been for at least the
last 18 years.
Joey Tribiani - 07 Sep 2008 20:07 GMT
> Bob wasn't ever spamming which is the only thing I care about.

rules is rules, selective enforcement by net nannies is unacceptable.

>And the reular longtime contributors DO have more USENET street cred than
>spammers and weasels.  It's informal but that is how it has been for at
>least the last 18 years.

not true, Bob said I don't post enough for my "whining" to even matter...
i've been on usenet for nearly 13 years now... but I'm a newb...
phil scott - 07 Sep 2008 21:44 GMT
> > "Bob Nixon" <bigrex2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

tenure.

i had to esplane to a client the other day...  respect and award
tenure or
loose the brain trust.... you end up with wall to wall idiots that
way.

collapse ensues.... same mistake btw made by the little snot who took
over the criminal cult as phatso was dying.

Phil scott
TroytheTroll - 07 Sep 2008 22:17 GMT
>tenure.
>
>i had to esplane to a client the other day...  respect and award
>tenure or
>loose the brain trust.... you end up with wall to wall idiots that
>way.

>collapse ensues.... same mistake btw made by the little snot who took
>over the criminal cult as phatso was dying.
>Phil scott

God Filbert, your writing appears to have deteriorated over the
years...do you actually think this crap you spew is even coherent
nowadays? You don't actually act this retarded when submitting a
written bid do you? Or do clients not ask for those during the average
outhouse wiring job nowadays?
Twibil - 04 Sep 2008 20:41 GMT
> The vote was pretty equal as I recall.

Oh, but we don't have to trust to your recall -and we shouldn't,
because you're a pathological liar- we can just look at the actual
results, which went like this:

1 (you) absolutely in favor of "getting rid" of doc's posts.

4 that were neutral or who felt there were points on both sides of the
question.

8 that were in favor of you dropping your Doc Wong fixation and
leaving him alone.

> If there had been all negative votes I would shut up... (snip)

Ah.  So once again you were lying outright when you said "vote yes or
no and I'll shut up if you want to keep Doc's ads". Now you've decided
that only a unanimous vote would have prevented you from doing what
you intended to do all the time anyway. (And of course a unanimous
vote was never possible in the first place because *you* would have
always voted in favor of dumping Doc's spam, no matter what. This is
what's know as "fixing" a vote after the fact.)

So your entire thread was not based on a *real* promise at all: it was
based on a lie -*your* lie- and now that you've lost you're just going
to pretend that you won, continue doing as you like, and hope that
nobody calls you on your bullshit.

Wrong.
Bob Nixon - 05 Sep 2008 00:13 GMT
> > The vote was pretty equal as I recall.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> 4 that were neutral or who felt there were points on both sides of the
> question.

Bullshit. 4 Yes's as you can get in AMS.

> 8 that were in favor of you dropping your Doc Wong fixation and
> leaving him alone.

Ir's not a fixation but doing the right thing in the right place and
this is no place for some BA localized ad or would it be any place on
the USENET.

> > If there had been all negative votes I would shut up... (snip)
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Wrong.

Oh bite me you older than even me fart. IThe non money post I left
alone. Now go back under that rock Peter eater;)
Robert Striemer - 05 Sep 2008 01:15 GMT
I think Bob's criticism is valid.

Has Wong ever posted/shared stuff that wasn't self-serving; something that
might serve the group as opposed to serving his bottom line?

Also, what is he a doctor of?

Rob
KLR

>> > The vote was pretty equal as I recall.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> Oh bite me you older than even me fart. IThe non money post I left
> alone. Now go back under that rock Peter eater;)
TroytheTroll - 05 Sep 2008 02:27 GMT
> Also, what is he a doctor of?
>
> Rob
> KLR

Quackpractory?

I think chiropractors were banned in Massachusetts until just a decade
or two ago....to this day I still consider the practice only one step
removed from a degree in snake oilery.
phil scott - 07 Sep 2008 21:38 GMT
> I think Bob's criticism is valid.
>
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

SELF SERVING?   what?   you are calling a scientologist SELF
SERVING!

not.

how could that be.
Ed - 05 Sep 2008 02:58 GMT
>> Wrong.
>
> Oh bite me you older than even me fart. IThe non money post I left
> alone. Now go back under that rock Peter eater;)

Somehow they didn't count my vote.  I also vote yes to get rid of Doc's
posts.
Joey Tribiani - 05 Sep 2008 03:12 GMT
>>> Wrong.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Somehow they didn't count my vote.  I also vote yes to get rid of Doc's
> posts.

and i vote to live and let live... let the man post, or risk losing your
right to do the same...
Ed - 07 Sep 2008 04:08 GMT
> "Ed" <Ed1056@comcast.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> and i vote to live and let live... let the man post, or risk losing your
> right to do the same...

Normally I agree and would be a vocal advocate agreeing with you.  I hate
blatant spam and blame it for the decline in useful USENET groups.
Bob Nixon - 07 Sep 2008 04:45 GMT
> > "Ed" <Ed1...@comcast.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Normally I agree and would be a vocal advocate agreeing with you.  I hate
> blatant spam and blame it for the decline in useful USENET groups.

Ed, if your visit to Scottsdale Osborne Hospital was before August
then there's a good chance I was still zoned out. I was in an induced
coma state for five weeks and for the next month I don't remember
much. They held a Birthday party for me in the Hospital on August 2nd
and when I look at the pictures I remember most of that event. I'm
sorry if I offended you over this Doc Wong thing but I'm very adamant
about him prolly. (See next paragraph))

Because he and AB, others weren’t even out of HS when I was riding
those same peninsula hills. IOW, Doc is trying to cash in on all of us
who've ridden those roads before he knew they even existed.  "Alice’s
has been around for many years before Doc and his crew or even myself
rode up there. You or others may call it jealousy while to me I just
feel a gross lack of respect with him milking a popular road for his
business purposes. I'd estimate we used to see an accident at least
every weekend we'd ride up there and I find it hard to believe Doc's
efforts have changed those percentages at all. Fact is he's had many
crashes on his own rides. How do I know this? I read BAMA Moto once in
awhile.

Bob Nixon "25+ year living in the SFBA  & 21 years in Chandler AZ, a
suburb of Phoenix AZ.
Bob Nixon - 07 Sep 2008 04:54 GMT
> > "Joey Tribiani" <J...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> Bob Nixon "25+ year living in the SFBA  & 21 years in Chandler AZ, a
> suburb of Phoenix AZ.

PS. I was already in HS myself when we move from Omaha to Castro
Valley in the SFBA I just turned 63 last month. BTW, You might think
of the above as a Titanic survivor's attitude toward the current grave
diggers of that sunken vessel.
Bob Nixon - 05 Sep 2008 06:03 GMT
> >> Wrong.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Somehow they didn't count my vote.  I also vote yes to get rid of Doc's
> posts.

Ed, you never post here in AMS so your vote is null. Get it? But
anyway, I've stopped bitching about his freebee stuff but not the REAL
SPAM that cost you money or ($35) this time. That's USENET SPAM or
advertising a big no-no.

Bob Nixon..
Ed - 07 Sep 2008 04:06 GMT
>> >> Wrong.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> SPAM that cost you money or ($35) this time. That's USENET SPAM or
> advertising a big no-no.

Sorry Bob, but I do.  I frequently change names for work reasons.  Remember
the post a few weeks back where I referenced seeing you in the hospital and
I am from Utah?  You may or may not remember me visiting you in the
hospital but you seemed to remember when I posted a few weeks ago.  Your
sister I think was the one who remembers me (I drive the Warrior), from
Utah and is blonde.  Sorry about the confusion.

> Bob Nixon..
phil scott - 07 Sep 2008 21:35 GMT
> > > On Sep 3, 10:38 am, docwong2...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> Doc Wong Certified First Aid/CPR for Motorcyclists!! Sat, Oct 4, 2008
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

the fee takes Docs offering out of the public service range into the
business and spam range... depending  on how
the fee is spent...if its used to fuel the bikes, pay for visiting
guru's travel, etc..then its probably not genuine
spam... especially considering the infrequency of such posts.

If the money (via the cults  WISE membership) ends up funding
scientology's hit men, thugs and whores operation...as all of the IAS
membership money does, and the rest of the take....(over 100 million
in 1997 according to a court case in that year for PI's and attorneys
alone)...well then 'spam' would hardly begin to define the situation.

***

My guess given scns vast fall from grace in the last few years.....
the ruthless management has found 'out policy'... violations of
Hubbard policy 'that cause  all bad things'  ... and has leaned on doc
for violating Hubbards precept...'free service equals free fall' and
has forced him to charge for the schools.. (and donate at least 10% of
or often all of it to scn management)....those still in scn are
reporting absolutely ruthless attempts to coerce money out of the
adherents...always involving such as getting inheritances early,
cashing out insurance, selling homes, and applying for 20 credit cards
all in one day so the card companies cant check...then maxing the
cards out to pay scn.

if doc is still solidly on board he will be at the nasty end of the
stick... money will an issue...if he like most others have backed off,
still stayed in scientology  so that they will not be disconnected
from their families and business relationships... these simply dont
answer the phone anymore without screening... and are 'very busy' and
only have time to do a token course or buy books occasionally.

One thiing for sure, you dont see many of the sir names of existing
members, children and relatives in scn rolls anymore...that used to be
comon..... its become a one shot rip off apparently.

Desperation has set in big time, esp as the real estate bubble and the
derivitives are over the edge into free fall in many aspects... it is
accountability time in river city... scn has had a direct hand in many
of the major bank failures, starting with BCCI in the early 90's, then
via management of the CIA's carlyle group finances (22 billion in
direct cash losses they have admitted to)...and the 4  banks conplict
and charged by the SEC.   600 million in the Slatkin fraud... now its
snow balling on them.

**

I hope Doc and others,  Kieth Code etc. took my ongoing advice and
disconnected from that crime wave.

Phil scott
 
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