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The Older Gentleman - 01 Sep 2008 20:36 GMT
Well, I bought one because, er, because it was cheap.

From an old boy down near Poole. 1981W, 14k miles from new, all stock,
in silver with one of those period colour-matched Invader handlebar
fairings, a pair of Old Man Rickman panniers...

Needs two new silencers, which I should have in my hands on Wednesday.
Runs like silk. As near silent as it's possible to get. Apart from the
blowing OE cans, mind.

Oh, and needs a sppedo. The one in it works, but is readin 9999.9 miles
and the tripmeter's bust also. The old boy said it was clicking over to
10 grand and then it stopped clicking. So his 14k miles is an estimate,
but I'm not quibbling. Anyway, plenty of decent used speedos on Ebay and
I'm bidding on one now.

Taxed, tested, mine for £275.

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Timo Geusch - 01 Sep 2008 21:13 GMT
> Well, I bought one because, er, because it was cheap.

I hope you're not trying to start a collection to rival zymurgy's...

> From an old boy down near Poole. 1981W, 14k miles from new, all stock,
> in silver with one of those period colour-matched Invader handlebar
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Runs like silk. As near silent as it's possible to get. Apart from the
> blowing OE cans, mind.

Not bad.

> Oh, and needs a sppedo. The one in it works, but is readin 9999.9 miles
> and the tripmeter's bust also. The old boy said it was clicking over to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Taxed, tested, mine for £275.

Really not bad.

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Bob Scott - 01 Sep 2008 22:06 GMT
Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> writes
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>> Taxed, tested, mine for £275.
>
>Really not bad.

Cor, I reckon my last 250 superdream owed me £275[1]. I hesitate to
admit it but I've got fond memories of both the superdreams I've owned.
Only time either of them failed to get me home involved a snapped chain.

ran it for 18 months or so of extreme poverty (unemployment & working
for a charity) then swapped it for an LC[2].

I've been slowly togging out the LC. It's done me £375 so far & I just
stuck the frame on gumtree - 11 people have said they want it so far,
maybe £100 for a 4l0 frame with V5 is too cheap.

Hmm, there's a 450DX on gumtree for £100, wonder if SWMBO would object
to another Honda.

Bob

[1] complicated deal whereby the local drug dealer got my transit, the
local outlaw got his speakers & I got some cash & the outlaw's winter
hack superdream. God, I knew some dodgy people.
[2] I had a job on a busroute & the man with the LC had just got a job
which he needed a reliable bike to commute on.
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The Older Gentleman - 01 Sep 2008 22:15 GMT
> I've been slowly togging out

I won't warn you again....

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Champ - 02 Sep 2008 09:39 GMT
>> I've been slowly togging out
>
>I won't warn you again....

Resistance is futile!
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Austin Shackles - 02 Sep 2008 11:10 GMT
>>> I've been slowly togging out
>>
>>I won't warn you again....
>
>Resistance is futile!

yeah, it'll be in the next edition of the OED, innit.

There's a bloke on the web with a list of collective nouns, I got "wunch"
listed as the collective noun for "bankers".
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Rusty Hinge 2 - 01 Sep 2008 21:54 GMT
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from totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) contains these
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> Well, I bought one because, er, because it was cheap.

> From an old boy down near Poole. 1981W, 14k miles from new, all stock,
> in silver with one of those period colour-matched Invader handlebar
> fairings, a pair of Old Man Rickman panniers...

> Needs two new silencers, which I should have in my hands on Wednesday.
> Runs like silk. As near silent as it's possible to get. Apart from the
> blowing OE cans, mind.

> Oh, and needs a sppedo. The one in it works, but is readin 9999.9 miles
> and the tripmeter's bust also. The old boy said it was clicking over to
> 10 grand and then it stopped clicking. So his 14k miles is an estimate,
> but I'm not quibbling. Anyway, plenty of decent used speedos on Ebay and
> I'm bidding on one now.

> Taxed, tested, mine for £275.

Hmmm. Pretty fair.

Are you keeping the fairing?

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The Older Gentleman - 02 Sep 2008 07:18 GMT
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>
> Are you keeping the fairing?

Heh. Yes. I know what they're worth, too :-)

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Rusty Hinge 2 - 02 Sep 2008 20:40 GMT
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> > Are you keeping the fairing?

> Heh. Yes. I know what they're worth, too :-)

Oh well, nemmind. And, TBH, I don't know what they're worth.

Any old fairing would do me FTTB.

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platypus - 01 Sep 2008 23:05 GMT
> Well, I bought one because, er, because it was cheap.

250 or 400?

I dunno, first a GS500 and now this.  It'll be a GT250 Ram Air next.
SpamTrapSeeSig - 02 Sep 2008 01:33 GMT
>> Well, I bought one because, er, because it was cheap.
>
>250 or 400?
>
>I dunno, first a GS500 and now this.  It'll be a GT250 Ram Air next.

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mike. buckley - 01 Sep 2008 23:24 GMT
>Well, I bought one because, er, because it was cheap.
>
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>
>Taxed, tested, mine for £275.

After all the sh.t you've bought this week surely you must be due to
spend your money on something worthwhile. I mean - a Dream and a GS500?
Maybe I ought to start drinking claret, then any old bike looks great.

Not that I was a bit pissed when I bought the CB72s, not at all.

Not even slightly.

Engine went for 150 btw, only it turns out the buyer is in Norn Iron.
He's paid, but no contact about collection yet - we shall see...

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The Older Gentleman - 02 Sep 2008 07:18 GMT
> Engine went for 150

That was a result.

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mike. buckley - 04 Sep 2008 16:35 GMT
>> Engine went for 150
>
>That was a result.

Still no contact..  but at least he's paid I suppose.

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Champ - 02 Sep 2008 09:42 GMT
>Well, I bought one because, er, because it was cheap.

>Taxed, tested, mine for £275.

Christ, nowhere near cheap enough.

Jeez, we knew these things were sh.t in 1980.  
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TOG@Toil - 02 Sep 2008 10:01 GMT
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:36:40 +0100, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The
>
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>
> Jeez, we knew these things were sh.t in 1980.  

Good ones are fetching £600 on Ebay, believe it or not. There's such a
shortage of sub-33bhp machinery that people will go for any old 250,
if it's sound, original and running nicely.
Austin Shackles - 02 Sep 2008 11:11 GMT
>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:36:40 +0100, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The
>>
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>shortage of sub-33bhp machinery that people will go for any old 250,
>if it's sound, original and running nicely.

WTFOMFG!!?!

600 notes for a supersnail??

Jeeze, I wish I'd kept the CJ250 now, that'd have to be worth about, oh, a
tenner.
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TOG@Toil - 02 Sep 2008 12:02 GMT
On 2 Sep, 11:11, Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESU...@ddol-
las.net> wrote:
> On or around Tue, 2 Sep 2008 02:01:00 -0700 (PDT), "TOG@Toil"
 

> >Good ones are fetching £600 on Ebay, believe it or not. There's such a
> >shortage of sub-33bhp machinery that people will go for any old 250,
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>
> 600 notes for a supersnail??

And more. I've seen utterly immaculate ones make four figures. I know,
they were never the best 250 out there, but they're selling today for
the same reason they sold when new: they're available, they're one of
the few bikes you're legally allowed to ride, if they're in decent
nick (few are now) they're reliable and cheap to run and they still
look like a nice big bike.

I know that's another way of saying they're way too bulky, but it's
what sold them in the 1970s/80s. You know Honda shifted 88,000 of the
things in Britain?

If you've passed your test on a 125 and you want a cheapish 33bhp
bike, there's been bugger all produced in the last couple of decades.
You've got, um, the current Honda CB250, a few 250-350cc dirt bikes,
the new Kawasaki 250 (which isn't available used and cheap yet), the
old Kwacker ZZR/GPX250 (both very rare), or the old 250s from way back
when.

> Jeeze, I wish I'd kept the CJ250 now, that'd have to be worth about, oh, a
> tenner.

If it's in clean running order with T&T, try £400.
A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk - 02 Sep 2008 13:40 GMT
>> 600 notes for a supersnail??

> And more. I've seen utterly immaculate ones make four figures. I know,
> they were never the best 250 out there, but they're selling today for
> the same reason they sold when new: they're available, they're one of
> the few bikes you're legally allowed to ride, if they're in decent
> nick (few are now) they're reliable and cheap to run and they still
> look like a nice big bike.

I had a 250 Supersnail for about 4 years in the early 1980s and despite its
obvious failings (obligatorily dodgy camchain tensioner, comstar wheels
that were lethal in strong crosswinds, a rear hub that seemed bent on
self-destruction, rockerbox studs that were about as hard as chocolate,
front mudguard that rotted away before your eyes) it was a pretty little
hack with a pleasant burble, and never let me down.   Gutless motor, mind,
especially when two-up:  I always remember the howls of laughter when
leaving a mate's place with the GF on the back, and the bike was parked on a
very steep camber, uphill, and it wouldn't pull away.  Had to turn it so it
faced downhill instead...

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Champ - 02 Sep 2008 14:55 GMT
>> >Good ones are fetching £600 on Ebay, believe it or not. There's such a
>> >shortage of sub-33bhp machinery that people will go for any old 250,
>> >if it's sound, original and running nicely.

Ah, so you've bought as a money making proposition.  Fair enough

>> 600 notes for a supersnail??
>
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>what sold them in the 1970s/80s. You know Honda shifted 88,000 of the
>things in Britain?

Christ, I didn't realise it was that many!  I know they were really
popular back then because they looked like a 'proper bike', while
those of us in the know (even if we were only 18 ourselves) looked
down our noses at them.  
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TOG@Toil - 02 Sep 2008 15:32 GMT
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 04:02:04 -0700 (PDT), "TOG@Toil"
>
>> You know Honda shifted 88,000 of the
> >things in Britain?
>
> Christ, I didn't realise it was that many!  

Well, so I was told. It was the UK's best-selling bike for at least
two years, maybe three. It sold well between 1978 and 1981, which was
the absolute boom time for UK registrations. From memory, some 320,000
new bikes were registered in 1980. So say well over a million new
bikes registered in the four years 1978-81. About one in eight was a
250 Wet Dream.
SpamTrapSeeSig - 02 Sep 2008 16:19 GMT
In article
<ceb1e642-6977-4949-b8fd-bb4eaa2755f6@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 04:02:04 -0700 (PDT), "TOG@Toil"
>>
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>bikes registered in the four years 1978-81. About one in eight was a
>250 Wet Dream.

As the bit of British history one least wants to be reminded of, that
must come a close second to losing the Colonies (or Madonna achieving
permanent residency).

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Austin Shackles - 03 Sep 2008 18:26 GMT
>> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 04:02:04 -0700 (PDT), "TOG@Toil"
>>
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>bikes registered in the four years 1978-81. About one in eight was a
>250 Wet Dream.

I used to reckon the 400 would be worth a go, but they're not easy to find
in good nick.
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Mark Olson - 03 Sep 2008 18:28 GMT
> I used to reckon the 400 would be worth a go, but they're not easy to find
> in good nick.

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/mcy/824703380.html

Having owned one and liked it, I am quite tempted to have another at
that price.

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The Older Gentleman - 03 Sep 2008 20:07 GMT
> >> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 04:02:04 -0700 (PDT), "TOG@Toil"
> >>
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> I used to reckon the 400 would be worth a go, but they're not easy to find
> in good nick.

Nor with functioning big ends....

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Grimly Curmudgeon - 04 Sep 2008 23:39 GMT
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Austin Shackles
<austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> saying something like:

>>250 Wet Dream.
>
>I used to reckon the 400 would be worth a go, but they're not easy to find
>in good nick.

It was like a different bike with those extra ccs. All the cycle parts
had the same problems of course, but it was so much nicer to ride.
sweller - 04 Sep 2008 10:10 GMT
> I know they were really
> popular back then because they looked like a 'proper bike', while
> those of us in the know (even if we were only 18 ourselves) looked
> down our noses at them.  

I had one.
http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/teenage%20kicks.jpg

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TOG@Toil - 04 Sep 2008 10:50 GMT
> > I know they were really
> > popular back then because they looked like a 'proper bike', while
> > those of us in the know (even if we were only 18 ourselves) looked
> > down our noses at them.  
>
> I had one.http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/teenage%20kicks.jpg

Cor. One shite bike and two shite cars, in the same pic. Did you spray
the engine black?
sweller - 04 Sep 2008 11:14 GMT
> > I had one.http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/teenage%20kicks.jpg
> >
> Cor. One shite bike and two shite cars, in the same pic. Did you spray
> the engine black?

No, it's just grubby.
http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/cb250n-kjm148w.jpg

...and I hope you're not referring to my old Morris as shite!  It was
great and took me and some mates round Eastern Europe in 1990.

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Austin Shackles - 04 Sep 2008 21:21 GMT
>> > I had one.http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/teenage%20kicks.jpg
>> >
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>...and I hope you're not referring to my old Morris as shite!  It was
>great and took me and some mates round Eastern Europe in 1990.

There's a ford onion and what I suspect to be a Mk1 cavvy in the pic as
well.
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sweller - 04 Sep 2008 21:32 GMT
> > No, it's just grubby.
> > http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/cb250n-kjm148w.jpg
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> There's a ford onion and what I suspect to be a Mk1 cavvy in the pic as
> well.

Well, it was a housing estate in 1990 so I'm not exactly surprised.

The sort of 'executive' housing estate for people who thought they'd done
well to not live on an Estate.

Safe to say I didn't live there.  One of my banger racing mates did
though.

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Champ - 05 Sep 2008 17:12 GMT
>> > No, it's just grubby.
>> > http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/cb250n-kjm148w.jpg
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>
>Well, it was a housing estate in 1990 so I'm not exactly surprised.

heh - only you would own a superdream in 1990 :-)
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Tim - 05 Sep 2008 18:06 GMT
>>> > No, it's just grubby.
>>> > http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/cb250n-kjm148w.jpg
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>
>heh - only you would own a superdream in 1990 :-)

Last Sunday I saw a silver CB-250N going along the A2.
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A.Clews@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk - 05 Sep 2008 20:38 GMT
> Last Sunday I saw a silver CB-250N going along the A2.

I suppose at least that's better than a silver CB250N *not* going along the
A2.

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Rusty Hinge 2 - 05 Sep 2008 21:56 GMT
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> >>> > No, it's just grubby.
> >>> > http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/cb250n-kjm148w.jpg
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> >
> >heh - only you would own a superdream in 1990 :-)

> Last Sunday I saw a silver CB-250N going along the A2.

I saw a grubby D2 Bantam negotiating the St. Stephens Roundabout in
Naaaardge yesterday.

Fair brought a lump to me throat innit.

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Mark - 06 Sep 2008 23:07 GMT
Rusty Hinge 2 <rusty.hinge@gruel.invalid.co.uk> wrote in message >

> I saw a grubby D2 Bantam negotiating the St. Stephens Roundabout

WOW you must have good eyesight

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> > I saw a grubby D2 Bantam negotiating the St. Stephens Roundabout

> WOW you must have good eyesight

Green-tinted spectacles - I could only afford a D1...

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sweller - 05 Sep 2008 18:06 GMT
> >> There's a ford onion and what I suspect to be a Mk1 cavvy in the pic
> as >> well.
> >
> > Well, it was a housing estate in 1990 so I'm not exactly surprised.
>
> heh - only you would own a superdream in 1990 :-)

It was cheap.  Very cheap.  Cheaper than an MZ cheap.

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Ace - 05 Sep 2008 18:08 GMT


>> >> There's a ford onion and what I suspect to be a Mk1 cavvy in the pic
>> as >> well.
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>
>It was cheap.  Very cheap.  Cheaper than an MZ cheap.

Was it the closest you ever came to owning a modern bike?

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sweller - 05 Sep 2008 18:14 GMT
> >> heh - only you would own a superdream in 1990 :-)
> >
> > It was cheap.  Very cheap.  Cheaper than an MZ cheap.
>
> Was it the closest you ever came to owning a modern bike?

No, the newest bike I've had was only 4 years old.

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Adrian - 04 Sep 2008 21:41 GMT
Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

>>> > I had one.http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/teenage%20kicks.jpg

>>...and I hope you're not referring to my old Morris as shite!  It was
>>great and took me and some mates round Eastern Europe in 1990.

> There's a ford onion and what I suspect to be a Mk1 cavvy in the pic as
> well.

The yellow 'un with the front out of frame? Mk1 Ashtray.
Austin Shackles - 05 Sep 2008 07:28 GMT
>Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> gurgled
>happily, sounding much like they were saying:
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>
>The yellow 'un with the front out of frame? Mk1 Ashtray.

I thought it looked too big for that.  Same stable, anyway.
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platypus - 05 Sep 2008 10:43 GMT
>> Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net>
>> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
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>
> I thought it looked too big for that.  Same stable, anyway.

One of these:

http://www.motorbase.com/uploads/2008/02/19/fs_astra05.jpg
Austin Shackles - 03 Sep 2008 18:25 GMT
>On 2 Sep, 11:11, Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESU...@ddol-
>las.net> wrote:
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>
>If it's in clean running order with T&T, try £400.

It was a long way from that.  disgusting bike, anyway.  I've an idea I
flogged it for 50 quid and thought I'd ripped off the buyer :-)
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Rusty Hinge 2 - 02 Sep 2008 20:42 GMT
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> >Well, I bought one because, er, because it was cheap.

> >Taxed, tested, mine for £275.

> Christ, nowhere near cheap enough.

> Jeez, we knew these things were sh.t in 1980.  

A? Speak up!

Our memories aren't what they were, you know.

Why, I can remember a day when, er, what was I saying?

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YTC#1 - 02 Sep 2008 21:02 GMT
>>Well, I bought one because, er, because it was cheap.
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> Jeez, we knew these things were sh.t in 1980.

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