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I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the clock and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you recommend using engine flush? It's been well looked after and the oil I drained out was discoloured, but not terrible. Adam >I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the clock >and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you recommend using >engine flush? It's been well looked after and the oil I drained out >was discoloured, but not terrible. Was the oil black or was it one of these scary red looking things?  Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road > >I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the clock > >and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you recommend using [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 > -- GSF600nwww.bgn.me.uk- Drive until you lose the road Nope, black. Have you seen oil coming out red from a bike?! >> >I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the clock >> >and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you recommend using [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Nope, black. Have you seen oil coming out red from a bike?! Only if it's red oil... you said it was 'discoloured' which made me believe it was not black. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road >>Nope, black. Have you seen oil coming out red from a bike?! > >Only if it's red oil... you said it was 'discoloured' which made me >believe it was not black. Have you never seen oil before it goes into an engine? Hint: It's not black before use. Signature_______ .'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ DS#8 BOTAFOT#3 SbS#2 UKRMMA#13 DFV#8 SKA#2 IBB#10 `\\ | //' `\|/` ` >>>Nope, black. Have you seen oil coming out red from a bike?! >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Have you never seen oil before it goes into an engine? Hint: It's not >black before use. I have seen oil before. The OP said that the oil which came out of his bike was discoloured. As oil, when it's been used for any length of time, is generally black I enquired as to the colour of it and he replied black. So I'm not sure what the whole discolouration thing is all about. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road >>>>Nope, black. Have you seen oil coming out red from a bike?! >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >replied black. So I'm not sure what the whole discolouration thing is >all about. It turns black. YTC. Signature_______ .'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ DS#8 BOTAFOT#3 SbS#2 UKRMMA#13 DFV#8 SKA#2 IBB#10 `\\ | //' `\|/` ` >>>>>Nope, black. Have you seen oil coming out red from a bike?! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >It turns black. Yeah, that's normal, innit. As he said 'discoloured' I thought he meant that it might be something exotic like lightly used red oil. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road > >>>>Nope, black. Have you seen oil coming out red from a bike?! > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > It turns black. I drained the oil out of a Hillman Imp once, it had gone beyond black and came out a brown muddy colour. The woman who owned it didn't realise the oil needed changing, and it had been in there about 5 years. Ugh Paul. > > -- > > -- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmoo...@spamcop.net > > -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 > > -- GSF600nwww.bgn.me.uk- Drive until you lose the road > > Nope, black. Have you seen oil coming out red from a bike?! Snip the sigs. There's a good chap. SignatureCab :^) - I'm dyslex-spic apparently GSX 1400 - Speedy Zimmerframe. UKRMMA#10 (KOTL), IbW#015, BoB#4, POTM#3, SKA#1 email addy : ukrm_dot_cab_at_rosbif_dot_org UKRM Firefox Extension: http://www.rosbif.org/ukrm/ukrm.xpi The gingeometer: http://www.rosbif.org/ukrm/gingeometer/ > > > I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the > > > clock and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you recommend [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Nope, black. Have you seen oil coming out red from a bike?! Erm, yes. When I changed the oil in the TS50 and used 2-stroke stuff. Not very bright. SignatureDan L dan.yodanet@gmail.com http://thebikeshed.spaces.live.com/ 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6/7) X-FOT#000 DIAABTCOD #26 BOMB#18 (slow) OMF#11 > I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the clock > and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you recommend using > engine flush? It's been well looked after and the oil I drained out > was discoloured, but not terrible. Buy some cheaper oil and change twice or thrice at 500 mile intervals. SignatureMorini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport x2 | 900SSD | VFR750 Triumph T-Bird chop | K1100LT BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar > > I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the clock > > and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you recommend using > > engine flush? It's been well looked after and the oil I drained out > > was discoloured, but not terrible. > > Buy some cheaper oil and change twice or thrice at 500 mile intervals. What 'e said but I'd do it at 200 ;-) SignatureCBR1000 GS450 FZ1-N BOMB#14 ibW#40 LotR#0 BOTAFOT#157 BotM#3 >> > I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the clock >> > and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you recommend using [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >What 'e said but I'd do it at 200 ;-) Wouldn't go past 150, myself. SignaturePip: B12 > >> > I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the > clock >> > and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Wouldn't go past 150, myself. I think you're all out and wouldn't go past 100. SignatureCab :^) - I'm dyslex-spic apparently GSX 1400 - Speedy Zimmerframe. UKRMMA#10 (KOTL), IbW#015, BoB#4, POTM#3, SKA#1 email addy : ukrm_dot_cab_at_rosbif_dot_org UKRM Firefox Extension: http://www.rosbif.org/ukrm/ukrm.xpi The gingeometer: http://www.rosbif.org/ukrm/gingeometer/ >> >> > I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the >> clock >> > and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >I think you're all out and wouldn't go past 100. I personally change my oil every 7km. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road > >> >> > I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the > >> clock >> > and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I personally change my oil every 7km. You f.cking liar. I can't remember you changing your underpants at those intervals. SignatureCBR1000 GS450 FZ1-N BOMB#14 ibW#40 LotR#0 BOTAFOT#157 BotM#3 >> >> >> > I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the >> >> clock >> > and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >You f.cking liar. I can't remember you changing your underpants at those >intervals. That's because they're never on long enough when you're around. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road > I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the clock > and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you recommend using > engine flush? It's been well looked after and the oil I drained out > was discoloured, but not terrible. "Engine flush" can cause more problems than it solves. Better to just put in some cheap oil and change any in a weeks time, remembering to drain when it's really hot. SignatureDave ex Motorcycle Maintenance Workshop http://tinyurl.com/4mhaw > "Engine flush" can cause more problems than it solves. Better to just put > in some cheap oil and change any in a weeks time, remembering to drain when > it's really hot. > Dave OK, I won't risk it if people think it's risky. >I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the clock >and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you recommend using >engine flush? It's been well looked after and the oil I drained out >was discoloured, but not terrible. I used to use engine flush regularly and never had any of the problems people talk about, but I've heard warnings of terrible things happening. Having said that, I've never heard a first-hand tale of one of these terrible happenings, either. These days I don't bother: having never done a control test I never knew if it helped or not, so I figured that it probably wasn't worth it. Certainly my Guzzi's internals were spotless after 30K miles of just using good quality oil changed more-or-less at the correct intervals; I never used flushing oil on it. If you have doubts about the state of the engine internals then just run the engine for a hundred miles or so on cheaper oil and then do a proper oil/filter change. Signature-Pip >I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the clock >and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you recommend using >engine flush? It's been well looked after and the oil I drained out >was discoloured, but not terrible. Don't bother mate, it is a 15 year old Quack, the oil will be out of that and marking your passage with a thin black line on the road behind you soon enough anyway. Just keep topping it up as needs be. Signaturesteve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features >I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the clock >and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you recommend using >engine flush? It's been well looked after and the oil I drained out >was discoloured, but not terrible. 1. Ignore what BGN says on bikes - he's had one for 10 mins 2. No one has used engine flush for 30 years 3. On such a low mileage bike, I wouldn't worry - just change the oil and filter and you'll be fine 4. What sort of Kawasaki? There weren't many air-cooled twins on Kawasakis book in 1992. Please tell me it's not a GPz305. SignatureChamp ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle To email me, neal at my domain should work. > >I've bought a 15 year old Kwak air-cooled twin with 12k on the clock > >and am giving it a thorough going over. Would you recommend using > >engine flush? It's been well looked after and the oil I drained out > >was discoloured, but not terrible. > > 1. Ignore what BGN says on bikes - he's had one for 10 mins It's not just the length of time, it's the ignorance too :) > 2. No one has used engine flush for 30 years > 3. On such a low mileage bike, I wouldn't worry - just change the oil > and filter and you'll be fine > 4. What sort of Kawasaki? There weren't many air-cooled twins on > Kawasakis book in 1992. Please tell me it's not a GPz305. Could be a 250 scorpion? Was that the name? Belt drive too, IIRC, but I'm wasted on painkillers this morning so could be imagining it all. <fx: wanders off in happy daze> SignatureBear >1. Ignore what BGN says on bikes - he's had one for 10 mins That's rather uncalled for - I don't think I've said anything in this thread apart from trying to clarify what the OP meant by 'discoloured' Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road >>1. Ignore what BGN says on bikes - he's had one for 10 mins > >That's rather uncalled for - I don't think I've said anything in this >thread apart from trying to clarify what the OP meant by 'discoloured' But it's a pretty good general rule, no? Signature_______ .'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ DS#8 BOTAFOT#3 SbS#2 UKRMMA#13 DFV#8 SKA#2 IBB#10 `\\ | //' `\|/` ` >>>1. Ignore what BGN says on bikes - he's had one for 10 mins >> >>That's rather uncalled for - I don't think I've said anything in this >>thread apart from trying to clarify what the OP meant by 'discoloured' > >But it's a pretty good general rule, no? I'm not going to bitched about because it's Champ's time of the month. I wasn't trying to offer or install my opinions on anyone else. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road BGN <nickmooney@spamcop.net> wrote in message <tndca3hv50d0mipngaebpmj3gb93g406ff@4ax.com>: >>>>1. Ignore what BGN says on bikes - he's had one for 10 mins >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I'm not going to bitched about because it's Champ's time of the month. >I wasn't trying to offer or install my opinions on anyone else. You seem to frequently offer your opinion on motorcycling when you have very little experience of it. I can understand why Champ would post what he did; I've done the same. It's not because it's "time of the month" but it's because you're relatively ignorant of bikes/mechanics/riding but post in a confident fashion. Many of the posters here have >25 years of f.cking about with/riding bikes. You've nowhere near this but continue to 'give advice' to new posters when frankly you often don't know what you're talking about. In this ocassion you had nothing to add so why bother asking questions, you couldn't explain from personal experience what contaminated oil looked like in any case. SignatureK75RT, K1100LT, ZXR750H1, 5TA. I know I aint doing much, doing nothing means a lot to me. > BGN <nickmooney@spamcop.net> wrote in message ><tndca3hv50d0mipngaebpmj3gb93g406ff@4ax.com>: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >you couldn't explain from personal experience what contaminated oil >looked like in any case. This is what your killfile is for. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road BGN <nickmooney@spamcop.net> wrote in message <mjfca3ph9kqc8f6iip5h0n1nhmf8ee8slk@4ax.com>: >>You seem to frequently offer your opinion on motorcycling when you have >>very little experience of it. I can understand why Champ would post [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >This is what your killfile is for. *sigh* I was even polite. On occasion you post stuff worth reading, just not in the bike threads. Oh, and I really don't need advice from you on how to operate a news reader thanks. SignatureK75RT, K1100LT, ZXR750H1, 5TA. I know I aint doing much, doing nothing means a lot to me. > BGN <nickmooney@spamcop.net> wrote in message ><mjfca3ph9kqc8f6iip5h0n1nhmf8ee8slk@4ax.com>: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >*sigh* I was even polite. I'm more annoyed that I'm getting slagged off for something I haven't done. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road > > BGN <nickmooney@spamcop.net> wrote in message > > <mjfca3ph9kqc8f6iip5h0n1nhmf8ee8slk@4ax.com>: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I'm more annoyed that I'm getting slagged off for something I haven't > done. You've done it lots, just not particularly in this thread - Champ was just pre-warning whoever it was he was talking too. Signature"I dunno, I never met the chick." Ebay tat: http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZsimian60QQhtZ-1 >> > BGN <nickmooney@spamcop.net> wrote in message >> > <mjfca3ph9kqc8f6iip5h0n1nhmf8ee8slk@4ax.com>: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >You've done it lots, just not particularly in this thread - Champ was >just pre-warning whoever it was he was talking too. So will standard advice to anyone on any subject who posts to UKRM be "Ignore BGN, even if he doesn't reply?" Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road > So will standard advice to anyone on any subject who posts to UKRM be > "Ignore BGN, even if he doesn't reply?" You're particularly flouncy this evening. Signature"I dunno, I never met the chick." Ebay tat: http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZsimian60QQhtZ-1 > > So will standard advice to anyone on any subject who posts to UKRM be > > "Ignore BGN, even if he doesn't reply?" > > You're particularly flouncy this evening. Be fair though, it was good advice. You can't fault him for that. SignatureBear >So will standard advice to anyone on any subject who posts to UKRM be >"Ignore BGN, even if he doesn't reply?" No, I said "Ignore BGN on bikes". You really do know next to nothing. SignatureChamp ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle To email me, neal at my domain should work. > >So will standard advice to anyone on any subject who posts to UKRM be > >"Ignore BGN, even if he doesn't reply?" > > No, I said "Ignore BGN on bikes". > > You really do know next to nothing. BGN, listen to him. He speaks the truth. We all love and cherish you, but when it comes to bikes, what you know could be written on a postage stamp and there'd still be space for the National Anthem. SignatureBMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells..... >> BGN <nickmooney@spamcop.net> wrote in message >><mjfca3ph9kqc8f6iip5h0n1nhmf8ee8slk@4ax.com>: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I'm more annoyed that I'm getting slagged off for something I haven't > done. Welcome, brother. D. Signaturedes | 'trop d'la balle, j'kiffe grave!' BMW K100-LT Key fingerprint = 9BF8 0908 74AE A8A6 A175 F299 B159 29DC 3453 1135 >This is what your killfile is for. No that is not what his killfile is for at all. With regard to motorcycles and ukrm, newbies, wimmin and other hard of thinkers have to be protected from poor advice and if you are giving poor advice it is no good having you in a killfile. Signaturesteve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features >>This is what your killfile is for. > >No that is not what his killfile is for at all. With regard to >motorcycles and ukrm, newbies, wimmin and other hard of thinkers have to >be protected from poor advice and if you are giving poor advice it is no >good having you in a killfile. But seeing as I didn't give any advice I don't see why I'm being slagged off for it. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road >>>This is what your killfile is for. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >But seeing as I didn't give any advice I don't see why I'm being >slagged off for it. Maybe not in this thread but you are confident to a degree that is not matched by your knowledge but the force is strong in you, perhaps one day you will realise how little you know and temper your advice accordingly. Signaturesteve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features >>>>This is what your killfile is for. >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >day you will realise how little you know and temper your advice >accordingly. I've never claimed to be the fountain of all knowledge for anything mechanical at all, that's the point. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road > This is what your killfile is for. Maybe you could do a lesson on how to snip posts next. >>You seem to frequently offer your opinion on motorcycling when you have >>very little experience of it. I can understand why Champ would post [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >>you couldn't explain from personal experience what contaminated oil >>looked like in any case. > This is what your killfile is for. You think that folk who give wrong/misleading/useless advice should be killfiled or ignored, rather than having their contribution pointed out for what it is? If you post bollocks, expect to be called on it. Signature'01 SV650SK1 '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13 OMF #7 >> BGN <nickmooney@spamcop.net> wrote in message >><tndca3hv50d0mipngaebpmj3gb93g406ff@4ax.com>: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >This is what your killfile is for. The problem here is that (imo) you do post some interesting and useful stuff over an average period of time but, as others are pointing out, you do sometimes post some utter cack when it comes to bikes. I post loads of sh.t and some choose to killfile me, others choose to sift through the sh.t for the interesting or useful posts. I don't waste my time telling people to killfile me, I just assume that some do and if they choose to publicly post about doing so then I really don't give a f.ck. You should do the same. > 4. What sort of Kawasaki? There weren't many air-cooled twins on > Kawasakis book in 1992. Please tell me it's not a GPz305. Afraid it is a GPz305. Starting to regret the purchase after reading some of the member's opinions on these.. > > 4. What sort of Kawasaki? There weren't many air-cooled twins on > > Kawasakis book in 1992. Please tell me it's not a GPz305. > > Afraid it is a GPz305. Starting to regret the purchase after reading > some of the member's opinions on these.. They're infamous for grenading. However, make sure you change the oil *very* frequently, as this seems to help with all the ones I've seen make reasonable mileages. SignatureBear >> > 4. What sort of Kawasaki? There weren't many air-cooled twins on >> > Kawasakis book in 1992. Please tell me it's not a GPz305. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >They're infamous for grenading. Oddly enough the experience of ukrm and the GPz305 is split fairly evenly between those who have owned them and those who haven't. You as I recall haven't. >However, make sure you change the oil *very* frequently, as this seems >to help with all the ones I've seen make reasonable mileages. True for any bike. Signaturesteve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features > >> > 4. What sort of Kawasaki? There weren't many air-cooled twins on > >> > Kawasakis book in 1992. Please tell me it's not a GPz305. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > evenly between those who have owned them and those who haven't. You as > I recall haven't. f.cking hell, Steve. Will you come round and mow my garden? >> >> > 4. What sort of Kawasaki? There weren't many air-cooled twins on >> >> > Kawasakis book in 1992. Please tell me it's not a GPz305. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >f.cking hell, Steve. Will you come round and mow my garden? I have other plans for my goat but thanks for the offer. Signaturesteve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features >> 4. What sort of Kawasaki? There weren't many air-cooled twins on >> Kawasakis book in 1992. Please tell me it's not a GPz305. > >Afraid it is a GPz305. Starting to regret the purchase after reading >some of the member's opinions on these.. Oh dear. Well, they were nice little bikes. Unfortunately, they were about the most unreliable engine Kawasaki ever made. However, all is not lost - if yours is still going, then change the oil (don't bother with engine flush) and filter now, making sure you use good quality semi-synth. Then, when you ride, always give the engine a minute or two to warm up (this is good practice on all engines, to be honest). And, make sure you change the oil and filter regularly and religiously - I'd say every 2000 miles. If you do that, it'll probably last. The problem is that most motorcycle owners don't look after their bikes very well. Most bikes can cope with this - the GPz305 can't, so you have to be good to it. SignatureChamp ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle To email me, neal at my domain should work. >The problem is that most >motorcycle owners don't look after their bikes very well. Most bikes >can cope with this - the GPz305 can't, so you have to be good to it. Can I take that as thinly veiled praise? Signaturesteve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features > Well, they were nice little bikes. Unfortunately, they were about the > most unreliable engine Kawasaki ever made. > > If you do that, it'll probably last. The problem is that most > motorcycle owners don't look after their bikes very well. Most bikes > can cope with this - the GPz305 can't, so you have to be good to it. Thanks for your advice. I'd be grateful to hear about other specific problems with the GPz305 so that I know what to look out for. I'm aware of the following: 1) The oil pump is driven by a nylon cog, which wears and fails, leading to big problems. 2) The automatic (spring) tensioner for the cam chain is a nightmare Thankfully, my bike's been looked after really well, so is in good shape. I'm hoping it'll run long enough for me to learn the basics of motorcycling before I get a 'proper' bike. I didn't want to get straight on a bandit straight after passing my direct access because I'm well aware that I know little about motorcycling. I get the feeling that you learn to pass your test, then learn about how to ride :) Adam >> Well, they were nice little bikes. Unfortunately, they were about the >> most unreliable engine Kawasaki ever made. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >2) The automatic (spring) tensioner for the cam chain is a nightmare It sounds like you already know more than most about the issues with this bike! I can't give you any more specific advice, I'm afraid. >Thankfully, my bike's been looked after really well, so is in good >shape. I'm hoping it'll run long enough for me to learn the basics of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >feeling that you learn to pass your test, then learn about how to >ride :) This is a pretty healthy attitude. SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk >> Well, they were nice little bikes. Unfortunately, they were about the >> most unreliable engine Kawasaki ever made. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >2) The automatic (spring) tensioner for the cam chain is a nightmare Keep your eye on the drive belt, keep a spare ready just in case. If you feel the slightest thing like a split in it when you do your daily checks change the bugger, less than 100 miles was how far I went from noticing a small split to parked waiting for the RAC. Two cylinders fell off somewhere but I never really noticed it and it seemed quite happy to be a twin. Nothing else of note really except I could never get the rev counter cable to stay done up for more than a tank or two of fuel. All in all a very reliable little bike and great fun to throw around in the lower gears. Signaturesteve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features > > 4. What sort of Kawasaki? There weren't many air-cooled twins on > > Kawasakis book in 1992. Please tell me it's not a GPz305. > > Afraid it is a GPz305. Starting to regret the purchase after reading > some of the member's opinions on these.. Don't listen to most of he shite on here. Yeah, sure, there are some people that know what the're talking about but most that talk of the 305 haven't owned one. |
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