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Mongrel - 28 Jul 2007 20:47 GMT So, my girlfriend has just passed her Part 1 test and as such is restricted to 38bhp.
What recommendations do the group have for a bike for her? She doesn't like big bikes (is scared by my 600 Hornet), not interested in going fast but will want a new bike that looks OK.
So group, what would you go for?
Thanks in advance
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Timo Geusch - 28 Jul 2007 20:52 GMT > So, my girlfriend has just passed her Part 1 test and as such is > restricted to 38bhp. > > What recommendations do the group have for a bike for her? She > doesn't like big bikes (is scared by my 600 Hornet), not interested > in going fast but will want a new bike that looks OK. Why would she want a new bike?
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steve auvache - 28 Jul 2007 21:12 GMT >So, my girlfriend has just passed her Part 1 test and as such is restricted >to 38bhp. Changed the rules have they? To think it was set at 33bhp for safety reasons, odd they should change it really.
>What recommendations do the group have for a bike for her? She should buy a bike that has 33bhp as it's natural limit. 33 in a 250 stroker will scare the willies off her but a restricted 600 is just so much slow as f.ck shite.
> She doesn't like >big bikes (is scared by my 600 Hornet), not interested in going fast but >will want a new bike that looks OK. > >So group, what would you go for? A new burd. Slow has it's place but not on a bike.
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Molly - 28 Jul 2007 21:16 GMT > So, my girlfriend has just passed her Part 1 test and as such is > restricted to 38bhp. 38BHP? You mean 33BHP.
> What recommendations do the group have for a bike for her? She doesn't > like big bikes (is scared by my 600 Hornet), not interested in going fast > but will want a new bike that looks OK. SV650, they respond really well to restricting.
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christofire - 28 Jul 2007 21:28 GMT > So, my girlfriend has just passed her Part 1 test and as such is > restricted to 38bhp. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > So group, what would you go for? SV650. Most bikes are physically a similar size IMO, it's all in the head. I had an SV650S restricted to 33bhp and it was a very user-friendly, confidence inspiring, easy to ride machine. It was even better when it was put back to how Suzuki intended.
Failing that, anything that allows you to see her leather-clad arse when following. I recommend a sportsbike for this as she'll have to lean forward somewhat to get to the bars.
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darsy - 29 Jul 2007 07:05 GMT >> So, my girlfriend has just passed her Part 1 test and as such is >> restricted to 38bhp. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >SV650. Most bikes are physically a similar size IMO balls.
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christofire - 29 Jul 2007 11:29 GMT > >> So, my girlfriend has just passed her Part 1 test and as such is > >> restricted to 38bhp. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > balls. Considering the models that this bird will be looking at, I don't think there'll be a great difference in size. A 10R isn't massively different from a 6R, R1/R6, and I don't think an SV650 is massively different to a 400.
If you walk into a dealer showroom with all the bikes shoehorned into neat rows you have to look at the stickers to see what they are. In the OPs context, a bike is big if it's got a big engine. As a newbie I thought of bikes being physically bigger and much heavier if they had a bigger engine. I now know it doesn't really make as much difference as I originally thought.
Obviously, a goldwing is a larger bit of kit and there's the odd thing like the latest "BMW fugly-bastard", but they fall outside of "most".
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wessie - 29 Jul 2007 11:55 GMT "christofire" <chris@ukrm.org> wrote in news:xn0f99ybb1yw69000 @news.motzarella.org:
>> > SV650. Most bikes are physically a similar size IMO >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > from a 6R, R1/R6, and I don't think an SV650 is massively different to > a 400. I'm with darsy on this. Even if a pair of bikes have a similar silhouette the ergonomics can make one uncomfortable or even unrideable IME.
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christofire - 29 Jul 2007 12:34 GMT > "christofire" <chris@ukrm.org> wrote in news:xn0f99ybb1yw69000 > @news.motzarella.org: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > silhouette the ergonomics can make one uncomfortable or even > unrideable IME. How can a pair of bikes have similar silhouettes yet be considerably different in physical size (other than the silhouettes being taken side on, for example, and one bike being literally a mile wide)?
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Badger - 29 Jul 2007 12:57 GMT >> "christofire" <chris@ukrm.org> wrote in news:xn0f99ybb1yw69000 >> @news.motzarella.org: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > different in physical size (other than the silhouettes being taken side > on, for example, and one bike being literally a mile wide)? A change in handlebar position needn't make a significant difference to the silhouette but could make the world of difference to the riding position.
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wessie - 29 Jul 2007 14:10 GMT Badger <spam@housemartin.f9.co.uk> wrote in news:46ac7fec$0$1598 $ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net:
>>> I'm with darsy on this. Even if a pair of bikes have a similar >>> silhouette the ergonomics can make one uncomfortable or even [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the silhouette but could make the world of difference to the riding > position. *ding*
The mid 1990s 900cc Triumph Daytona being an example. Similar silhouette to the universal Jap sports bike of the day but *I* could not get comfortable on it. The bar position did not suit my relatively short upper body.
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christofire - 29 Jul 2007 15:12 GMT > >>"christofire" <chris@ukrm.org> wrote in news:xn0f99ybb1yw69000 > > > @news.motzarella.org: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > to the silhouette but could make the world of difference to the > riding position. However, the original statement was about the size of bikes and not wanting a big bike (like his big 600), not riding positions.
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wessie - 29 Jul 2007 15:24 GMT "christofire" <chris@ukrm.org> wrote in news:xn0f9a48i9y4qh002 @news.motzarella.org:
> However, the original statement was about the size of bikes and not > wanting a big bike (like his big 600), not riding positions. Uh-huh, so why did you introduce 10Rs into the thread?
Also, to be even pickier, you took the OP's ambiguous use of the word big [1] and assigned it to a specific attribute, the physical size. Then you went on to make a generalisation about "most bikes" which was, as darsy succintly stated, "bollocks".
[1] IMV he was referring to engine size/power as the Hornet is a dinky little bike, physically.
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christofire - 29 Jul 2007 16:30 GMT > "christofire" <chris@ukrm.org> wrote in news:xn0f9a48i9y4qh002 > @news.motzarella.org: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > [1] IMV he was referring to engine size/power as the Hornet is a > dinky little bike, physically. <writes post, deletes>
Yep, you win.
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wessie - 29 Jul 2007 17:58 GMT "christofire" <chris@ukrm.org> wrote in news:xn0f9a697cqk9m004 @news.motzarella.org:
>> "christofire" <chris@ukrm.org> wrote in news:xn0f9a48i9y4qh002 >> @news.motzarella.org: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Yep, you win. you're no fun
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christofire - 29 Jul 2007 18:21 GMT
> you're no fun I've got my mind on other things. Primarily, my first two ebay auctions as the seller. Less than an hour to go, one has 8 bids and plenty watchers, the other has no bids and some watchers.
I'll try harder next time.
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Champ - 29 Jul 2007 18:28 GMT >> you're no fun > >I've got my mind on other things. Primarily, my first two ebay auctions >as the seller. Less than an hour to go, one has 8 bids and plenty >watchers, the other has no bids and some watchers. C'mon, lets have the item numbers.
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christofire - 29 Jul 2007 20:21 GMT > >> you're no fun > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > C'mon, lets have the item numbers. 130136696132 and
130136715875
Both ended now though.
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Champ - 29 Jul 2007 21:41 GMT >> >> you're no fun >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >130136696132 Dull
>130136715875 Duller.
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christofire - 29 Jul 2007 21:57 GMT > >> >> you're no fun > >> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Duller. You did ask. However, if there's any tips on making a "good" listing, I'd be glad to hear them. I've a collection of green zx10r fairings to out in the near future.
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Champ - 29 Jul 2007 23:53 GMT >However, if there's any tips on making a "good" listing, >I'd be glad to hear them. I've no idea.
Apparently, starting an auction with the words "you are bidding on" gets certain wicked uncle's hot under the collar. Good job he hasn't noticed that all my auctions have started like that.
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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 30 Jul 2007 00:02 GMT Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> typed
>>However, if there's any tips on making a "good" listing, >>I'd be glad to hear them. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Apparently, starting an auction with the words "you are bidding on" >gets certain wicked uncle's hot under the collar. Qué?
I do not recall ever complaining about that.
Please don't make me look up "traduce" in the dictionary.
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Champ - 30 Jul 2007 00:13 GMT >Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ ><neal@champ.org.uk> typed [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Please don't make me look up "traduce" in the dictionary. <googles>
How odd. I have a distinct memory of this, but not only do you not appear to have ever said it, no one has. Not this year, anyway.
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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 30 Jul 2007 00:15 GMT Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> typed
>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ >><neal@champ.org.uk> typed [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >How odd. I have a distinct memory of this, but not only do you not >appear to have ever said it, no one has. Not this year, anyway. You'll be hearing from my lawyers.
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Champ - 30 Jul 2007 00:23 GMT >>>>>However, if there's any tips on making a "good" listing, >>>>>I'd be glad to hear them. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >You'll be hearing from my lawyers. That's ok - your lawyers are crap.
Thank goodness you're not using your ex-wife's lawyers
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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 30 Jul 2007 00:25 GMT Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> typed
>>>>>>However, if there's any tips on making a "good" listing, >>>>>>I'd be glad to hear them. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Thank goodness you're not using your ex-wife's lawyers Pah! f.cking Google...
<wanders off in search of new material>
Ooh look! Mike Reid's Joke Book is on Ebay, that was quick.
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Higgins - 30 Jul 2007 08:11 GMT >> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ >> <neal@champ.org.uk> typed [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > How odd. I have a distinct memory of this, but not only do you not > appear to have ever said it, no one has. Not this year, anyway. It definitely has been said here but I don't recall by whom. I am, however, happy to back you up and blame Nigel.
christofire - 30 Jul 2007 10:33 GMT > > However, if there's any tips on making a "good" listing, > > I'd be glad to hear them. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > gets certain wicked uncle's hot under the collar. Good job he hasn't > noticed that all my auctions have started like that. Heh. I'll remember that. I've got a week or so with the offline auction builder to come up with a few more. I didn't want to put them on this weekend as it'd be just right that Pipex, in a last ditch effort to f.ck things up, will somehow stop the switch to the new lot from happening.
The cover went well - the guy lived not too far away, so I went to meet him. He got out of his van, I pulled the seat cover out of a bag and his face dropped. I thought "oh bollocks - here we go - I'm not paying for that, that's not what I bid on, etc etc". Another guy who'd been bidding (and winning) most of the time had two crap feedbacks along the lines of "didn't pay and rude, avoid at all costs", so I was set up for something to go wrong.
He opened his mouth and said "Oh no! It's *perfect*! I can't repaint that! I was hoping it'd be scratched and marked. I'll have to paint the bike red now."
We had a good laugh, a chat for about 20 mins and we both left happy, richer to the tune of what we both wanted. I also managed to ride my bike for a couple of miles without it hurting quite as much as the first time, so it looks like that's improving too.
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wessie - 29 Jul 2007 18:29 GMT "christofire" <chris@ukrm.org> wrote in news:xn0f9a95xgo9nn000 @news.motzarella.org:
> >> you're no fun [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I'll try harder next time. well at least give the auction numbers as they might provide a little entertainment
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Simian - 29 Jul 2007 19:22 GMT > > > you're no fun [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I'll try harder next time. Git yor luverly blake's seven videos 'ere:
http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZsimian60QQhtZ-1
The only ebay item I've ever put up that's had no bids and no watchers with only a day to go.
Mind you, I bought a GPz550 the other week, and paid for it with about 1/3rd of the junk in the garage; I've got at least another grands worth of crap to get rid of.
Bear - 29 Jul 2007 21:17 GMT > > > > > you're no fun [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZsimian60QQhtZ-1 You should have emailed Snowy :)
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cat - 31 Jul 2007 13:01 GMT > A change in handlebar position needn't make a significant difference to > the silhouette but could make the world of difference to the riding > position. Here's one of them damn fool questions:
How come (on the assumption that they don't; because I've never looked or seen) manufacturers don't publish the shape of the rider they designed around? After all they do consider the rider, right?
I've not got a clue what I want next. I want little and fun and sporty but I have no idea what I'll fit on. I should meet up with some of you lot and smile at you till you let me sit on what you brung I suppose.
Eddie - 31 Jul 2007 13:06 GMT > I should meet up with some of you lot and > smile at you till you let me sit on what you brung I suppose. Fnaar, fnaar.
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wessie - 31 Jul 2007 13:08 GMT >> A change in handlebar position needn't make a significant difference >> to the silhouette but could make the world of difference to the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > but I have no idea what I'll fit on. I should meet up with some of you > lot and smile at you till you let me sit on what you brung I suppose. Get to an *OSM and you will be inundated with offers to sit on the things gentlemen brought with them.
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.motorcycles/msg/c84c0625262e37cf has the date of the next one
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cat - 31 Jul 2007 14:39 GMT >> I've not got a clue what I want next. I want little and fun and sporty >> but I have no idea what I'll fit on. I should meet up with some of you [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.motorcycles/msg/c84c0625262e37cf has > the date of the next one That's physically possible to attend, and logically probable. Hurrah. I'm sorry about the feed lines. I'll try and improve.
Champ - 31 Jul 2007 13:09 GMT >I've not got a clue what I want next. I want little and fun and sporty but >I have no idea what I'll fit on. I should meet up with some of you lot and >smile at you till you let me sit on what you brung I suppose. Look, if you're going to give feedlines that are that obvious, then you'll take all the fun out of it.
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Jim GM4DHJ ........ - 28 Jul 2007 21:47 GMT > will want a new bike that looks OK. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tom a nice pink honda 50 .....
Roger Hunt - 30 Jul 2007 00:20 GMT >> will want a new bike that looks OK. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >a nice pink honda 50 ..... ebay# 230155169817
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The Older Gentleman - 29 Jul 2007 08:18 GMT > So, my girlfriend has just passed her Part 1 test and as such is restricted > to 38bhp. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > So group, what would you go for? Angle grinder.
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Bugger, wrong thread.
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Nige - 29 Jul 2007 14:15 GMT > So, my girlfriend has just passed her Part 1 test and as such is > restricted to 38bhp. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tom Yamaha MT-03, look good & once restricted, it makes no difference at all.
Easy to ride, fast enough to kill you & they handle very well for that kind of bike.
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dog - 31 Jul 2007 12:01 GMT > So, my girlfriend has just passed her Part 1 test and as such is restricted > to 38bhp. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > So group, what would you go for? if not interested in going fast, a 250 crosser might be a good plan. it should take well to being dropped a couple of times and the visibility afforded by the height would help to build confidence.
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