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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 01 Aug 2007 21:57 GMT
T plate 1100 Pan. 50th Anniversary Limited Edition, in a fetching shade
of gold.

ABS and TCS (see below).

105,000 miles.

Baglux tank cover.

Honda colour matched top-box to go with the panniers.

Cosmetically challenged, and the ABS is currently faulting. Last time
that happened cleaning the battery terminals cured it. I haven't tried
that yet. Assume dodgy sensor (about £100 from David Silver).

1 year's MOT (mid August 2008) and taxed to end of November.

Currently sporting a towbar, but that'll probably be removed and flogged
separately.

Basically scruffy but sound Pan.

What will I get for it?

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antonye - 01 Aug 2007 22:01 GMT
> What will I get for it?

Sent to Coventry?

--
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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 01 Aug 2007 22:05 GMT
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, antonye
<antonye@ukrm.net> typed

>> What will I get for it?
>
>Sent to Coventry?

8^PpPpPpPpPp

Remind me to give you a friendly punch to the shoulder next time we
meet.

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Simon Wilson - 01 Aug 2007 22:38 GMT
> T plate 1100 Pan. 50th Anniversary Limited Edition, in a fetching
> shade of gold.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> What will I get for it?

If the one I posted below isn't a scam, next to bugger all would
unfortunately be my bet.

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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 01 Aug 2007 22:41 GMT
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Simon Wilson
<siwilson@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> typed

>> T plate 1100 Pan. 50th Anniversary Limited Edition, in a fetching
>> shade of gold.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>If the one I posted below isn't a scam, next to bugger all would
>unfortunately be my bet.

I shouldn't be in the least surprised.

But it does have to go. And I am open to offers. And it already has the
towbar fitted...  ;^)

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The Older Gentleman - 02 Aug 2007 06:38 GMT
> T plate 1100 Pan. 50th Anniversary Limited Edition, in a fetching shade
> of gold.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> What will I get for it?

How did it get a new MoT with a duff ABS?

I'd have thought maybe £1500-1600. Hard to tell without a pic to see how
cosmetically challenged it is. Service history would help.

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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 02 Aug 2007 07:31 GMT
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older
Gentleman <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> typed

>> T plate 1100 Pan. 50th Anniversary Limited Edition, in a fetching shade
>> of gold.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
>How did it get a new MoT with a duff ABS?

Not a testable item.

>I'd have thought maybe £1500-1600. Hard to tell without a pic to see how
>cosmetically challenged it is. Service history would help.

Blimey, that's better than I thought. It's got some service history.

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The Older Gentleman - 02 Aug 2007 07:57 GMT
> >How did it get a new MoT with a duff ABS?
>
> Not a testable item.

Really? I thought if the ABS light was on, it was a fail. OK.

> >I'd have thought maybe £1500-1600. Hard to tell without a pic to see how
> >cosmetically challenged it is. Service history would help.
>
> Blimey, that's better than I thought. It's got some service history.

Let's have a quick look at Ebay, then....

Hm. Not many sub-2k Pans around.

This one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/honda-pan-european-st1100_W0QQitemZ130135001724QQi
hZ003QQcategoryZ9806QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Made £1650 and failed to meet reserve, but then owner had a ridiculous
BIN of £2.8k on it.

So yeah, 1500-1600 sovs sounds do-able if you gimp it properly.

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NickNoxx - 02 Aug 2007 11:24 GMT
>>> How did it get a new MoT with a duff ABS?
>> Not a testable item.
>
> Really? I thought if the ABS light was on, it was a fail. OK.

This is what I was told when the ABS light came on in my cage but the
garage 'cleared' the fault and it passed to test. Still comes on
occasionally in hot weather though.
SteveH - 02 Aug 2007 18:55 GMT
> So yeah, 1500-1600 sovs sounds do-able if you Nige it properly.

Post corrected.

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Timo Geusch - 02 Aug 2007 07:39 GMT
> > T plate 1100 Pan. 50th Anniversary Limited Edition, in a fetching
> > shade of gold.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> How did it get a new MoT with a duff ABS?

Non-testable item for bikes.

> I'd have thought maybe £1500-1600. Hard to tell without a pic to see
> how cosmetically challenged it is. Service history would help.

Ah, I thought it'd be worth less.

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Champ - 02 Aug 2007 09:59 GMT
>> How did it get a new MoT with a duff ABS?
>
>Non-testable item for bikes.

Cars too, no?   The ABS light is on on my amazing 500 quid 1994 super
Saab [1].  The previous owner implied it had been like that for quite
some time, and it was MOT'd in March

[1] Really, this car is amazing.  It bowls along at 95mph, with cruise
control on, with no rattles.  It still appears to make most of its
originally quoted 170bhp, most of the toys work (climare control,
elecric mirrors, etc) [2], it steers and brakes reasonably well.  If I
wasn't such a snob I'd keep it.

[2] exceptions are rear left door doesn't unlock with central locking,
and the electric sunroof opens, but doesn't close again, necessetating
the use of the special emergency allen key hidden under the sunroof
facia.  And the aircon isn't as cold as it should be.
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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 02 Aug 2007 10:03 GMT
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
<news@champ.org.uk> typed

>>> How did it get a new MoT with a duff ABS?
>>
>>Non-testable item for bikes.
>
>Cars too, no?

No. ABS light on in a car is a fail.

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The Older Gentleman - 02 Aug 2007 10:15 GMT
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
> <news@champ.org.uk> typed
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> No. ABS light on in a car is a fail.

Ah! That must be what I was thinking of. So a glowing ABS warning light
is not a fail on a motorcycle? It can only be a matter of time before
that loophole is plugged.

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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 02 Aug 2007 10:21 GMT
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older
Gentleman <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> typed

>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
>> <news@champ.org.uk> typed
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>is not a fail on a motorcycle? It can only be a matter of time before
>that loophole is plugged.

It would be interesting. The brake testing gizmo in bike MOT stations
means that only one wheel spins at a time. On the Pan (IIRC) that'll
cause the ABS to fault anyway, because it only sees a signal from one
wheel.

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The Older Gentleman - 02 Aug 2007 10:38 GMT
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older
> Gentleman <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> typed
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> cause the ABS to fault anyway, because it only sees a signal from one
> wheel.

How bloody silly. I mean, that suggests that if you spin the back wheel
with the bike on the centre stand and the ignition switched on, then it
thinks there's a fault.

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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 02 Aug 2007 10:44 GMT
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older
Gentleman <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> typed

>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older
>> Gentleman <chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com> typed
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>with the bike on the centre stand and the ignition switched on, then it
>thinks there's a fault.

There's a pretty good chance I'm wrong, y'know....

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Des - 02 Aug 2007 10:26 GMT
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
>> <news@champ.org.uk> typed
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Ah! That must be what I was thinking of. So a glowing ABS warning light
> is not a fail on a motorcycle?

On a K100 it is, as I found out on the A13 two days after buying mine..

D.
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The Older Gentleman - 02 Aug 2007 10:15 GMT
> [1] Really, this car is amazing.  It bowls along at 95mph, with cruise
> control on, with no rattles.  It still appears to make most of its
> originally quoted 170bhp, most of the toys work (climare control,
> elecric mirrors, etc) [2], it steers and brakes reasonably well.  If I
> wasn't such a snob I'd keep it.

> [2] exceptions are rear left door doesn't unlock with central locking,
> and the electric sunroof opens, but doesn't close again, necessetating
> the use of the special emergency allen key hidden under the sunroof
> facia.  And the aircon isn't as cold as it should be.

My old one was great. Like yours, it has a 'lazy' rear door on the
central locking - only IIRC it was the rear right-hand one.

The best thing was the comfort - best seats and best ergonomics of any
car I've driven. Fabulous build quality too.

Aircon stopped blowing cold shortly before I sold it - £95 and a Man in
a Van sorted that out with a re-gas.

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Simon Wilson - 02 Aug 2007 10:58 GMT
>>> How did it get a new MoT with a duff ABS?
>> Non-testable item for bikes.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> the use of the special emergency allen key hidden under the sunroof
> facia.  And the aircon isn't as cold as it should be.

I'm fairly sure that the ABS light on is an MOT failure on a cage. ICBW
though.

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Phil Launchbury - 02 Aug 2007 11:05 GMT
>> [2] exceptions are rear left door doesn't unlock with central locking,
>> and the electric sunroof opens, but doesn't close again, necessetating
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I'm fairly sure that the ABS light on is an MOT failure on a cage. ICBW
> though.

It was when my old Honda Accord Aerodeck failed with an ABS light
fault (that wasn't the only fault it failed on mind - the root cause of
the ABS light being on was that one of the rear brake lights had blown
and that *always* caused the ABS light to come on with that model..)

Phil.

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vulgarandmischevious - 02 Aug 2007 11:25 GMT
>[1] Really, this car is amazing.  It bowls along at 95mph, with cruise
>control on, with no rattles.  It still appears to make most of its
>originally quoted 170bhp, most of the toys work (climare control,
>elecric mirrors, etc) [2], it steers and brakes reasonably well.  If I
>wasn't such a snob I'd keep it.

You could use it to take a lovely lady out for tea.

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Champ - 02 Aug 2007 14:02 GMT
>>[1] Really, this car is amazing.  It bowls along at 95mph, with cruise
>>control on, with no rattles.  It still appears to make most of its
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>You could use it to take a lovely lady out for tea.

<glum>

Chance would be a fine thing.
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Hog - 02 Aug 2007 14:09 GMT
>>> [1] Really, this car is amazing.  It bowls along at 95mph, with
>>> cruise control on, with no rattles.  It still appears to make most
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Chance would be a fine thing.

You didn't pull that young blonde then?!  tut

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Champ - 02 Aug 2007 14:36 GMT
>>> You could use it to take a lovely lady out for tea.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>You didn't pull that young blonde then?!  tut

<confused> Which young blonde?
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Hog - 02 Aug 2007 15:51 GMT
>>>> You could use it to take a lovely lady out for tea.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> <confused> Which young blonde?

Oh well played Sir.

Under 16 was she?

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platypus - 02 Aug 2007 20:07 GMT
>>>>> You could use it to take a lovely lady out for tea.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Under 16 was she?

You think all girls are blonde, don't you?

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Hog - 03 Aug 2007 08:00 GMT
>>>>>> You could use it to take a lovely lady out for tea.
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> You think all girls are blonde, don't you?

I don't actually remember her being blonde but she was young and on the
night, the most beautiful girl in the world. Obviously being a friend of
Laura she will be fairly smart too.

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Champ - 03 Aug 2007 09:34 GMT
>>>>> You didn't pull that young blonde then?!  tut
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>night, the most beautiful girl in the world. Obviously being a friend of
>Laura she will be fairly smart too.

I've really no idea who you're talking about.  Do you mean the one
with the bullet belt?  She was fairly nice, but a long way from "the
most beautiful girl in the world".
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Bear - 03 Aug 2007 09:44 GMT
> >>>>> You didn't pull that young blonde then?!  tut
> >>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> with the bullet belt?  She was fairly nice, but a long way from "the
> most beautiful girl in the world".

"5 pint princess"?
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The Longhaired Boxhead - 03 Aug 2007 15:02 GMT
>> >>>>> You didn't pull that young blonde then?!  tut
>> >>>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>"5 pint princess"?

*Class*. Haven't heard that one before.
Hog - 03 Aug 2007 10:28 GMT
>>>>>> You didn't pull that young blonde then?!  tut
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> with the bullet belt?  She was fairly nice, but a long way from "the
> most beautiful girl in the world".

Your words not mine. Or something like it. Or was that just Platy putting
words in your mouth ;o)

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platypus - 03 Aug 2007 11:41 GMT
>>>>>>> You didn't pull that young blonde then?!  tut
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Your words not mine. Or something like it. Or was that just Platy
> putting words in your mouth ;o)

IIRC dark hair, red lippy, pale skin, white corset, went by the name of
"Sam".

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Hog - 03 Aug 2007 11:54 GMT
>>>>>>>> You didn't pull that young blonde then?!  tut
>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> IIRC dark hair, red lippy, pale skin, white corset, went by the name
> of "Sam".

She was *rather* cute.
Apparently.
But then I have strange tastes in women.
Apparently.

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platypus - 03 Aug 2007 12:42 GMT
>>>>>>>>> You didn't pull that young blonde then?!  tut
>>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> But then I have strange tastes in women.
> Apparently.

I'll have to ask Laura if there's a photo - I think there were at least a
couple taken on the night.

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Champ - 03 Aug 2007 13:34 GMT
>>>>> I don't actually remember her being blonde but she was young and on
>>>>> the night, the most beautiful girl in the world. Obviously being a
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>Apparently.
>But then I have strange tastes in women.

<snigger>
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wessie - 02 Aug 2007 15:29 GMT
> How did it get a new MoT with a duff ABS?

A BMW passes with the LEDS flashing as the test process does not allow the
self test to complete. The self test only completes and the LEDS are
extinguised if both wheels rotate at the same time. As the rolling road
only tests the brakes on one wheel at a time...

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Timo Geusch - 02 Aug 2007 06:56 GMT
> Basically scruffy but sound Pan.
>
> What will I get for it?

Somewhere between 800-1200 quid would be my guess.

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The Older Gentleman - 02 Aug 2007 07:57 GMT
> > Basically scruffy but sound Pan.
> >
> > What will I get for it?
>
> Somewhere between 800-1200 quid would be my guess.

Heh. A challenge! Let's see.......

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Timo Geusch - 02 Aug 2007 08:05 GMT
> > > Basically scruffy but sound Pan.
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Heh. A challenge! Let's see.......

First price being a really manky set of 400/4 carbs...

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Simon Wilson - 02 Aug 2007 08:39 GMT
> > Basically scruffy but sound Pan.
> >
> > What will I get for it?
>
> Somewhere between 800-1200 quid would be my guess.

That sounds low (says he hopefully). I would have thought it would
better breaking it at that price, even in big lumps. Seats, exhaust,
swinging arms, ABS bits etc. seem to go for good prices. If it has the
40A alternator then that's worth a fair bit too. (Having spent ages
looking for one myself)

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The Older Gentleman - 02 Aug 2007 09:00 GMT
> > > Basically scruffy but sound Pan.
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> 40A alternator then that's worth a fair bit too. (Having spent ages
> looking for one myself)

It's almost always more lucrative to break relatively old bikes than
sell them complete.

If you have the tools to do the job and space to store the bits, it
takes just three weeks to dispose of every nut and bolt on Ebay.

Week One: all the stuff that's in the want. Bodywork, trim, instruments,
crashable bits, etc etc. Tinware for SOBs. OE exhausts for SOBs...

Week Two: second division stuff. electrics, suspension, switches,
brakes, whatever. Start it all at 99p and no reserve.

Week Three: whatever's left. Frequently a frame and a wheel or two, plus
assorted crap. Start it at 99p and no reserve, buyer collects, and
someone comes and takes it away.

Job done.

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Derek Turner - 02 Aug 2007 14:07 GMT
> Basically scruffy but sound Pan.
>
> What will I get for it?

Did it get a new cam-belt at 90,000? 1st question a clued-up buyer
should ask.

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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 02 Aug 2007 14:15 GMT
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>> Basically scruffy but sound Pan.
>>  What will I get for it?
>>
>Did it get a new cam-belt at 90,000? 1st question a clued-up buyer
>should ask.

A good question. I think so, but I should check through the sheaf of
receipts the previous owner gave me.

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Derek Turner - 02 Aug 2007 15:47 GMT
> A good question. I think so, but I should check through the sheaf of
> receipts the previous owner gave me.

 Yep, knowing there's £700+ bill coming up (or not) can affect the
price considerably. Amazing how many are sold at 85K.

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Simon Wilson - 02 Aug 2007 16:19 GMT
>> A good question. I think so, but I should check through the sheaf of
>> receipts the previous owner gave me.
>>
>  Yep, knowing there's £700+ bill coming up (or not) can affect the price
> considerably. Amazing how many are sold at 85K.

£700? Huh? What for? Changing the cambelt?

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Derek Turner - 02 Aug 2007 16:43 GMT
> £700? Huh? What for? Changing the cambelt?

So I'm told. I thinh Honda dealers look on Pan-owners as a licence to
print money. Mine's only done 35K so that day is still a long way away.

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Simon Wilson - 02 Aug 2007 16:49 GMT
>> £700? Huh? What for? Changing the cambelt?
>>
> So I'm told. I thinh Honda dealers look on Pan-owners as a licence to
> print money. Mine's only done 35K so that day is still a long way away.

That's ridiculous. The belt itself is about 50 quid. It can't be more
than a couple of hours work. I'm going to be doing mine soon, I'll let
you know.

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Derek Turner - 02 Aug 2007 17:43 GMT
>>> £700? Huh? What for? Changing the cambelt?
>>>
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> than a couple of hours work. I'm going to be doing mine soon, I'll let
> you know.

<fx: checks Haynes Manual>

Hmm.. a 3-spanner difficultly rating. Middle and top fairings off
(budget new clips), cooling system drained (easier if the down-pipes are
removed) radiator out (after 90K are we going to keep the old hoses?
better budget for them), clutch-cover gasket, drain-plug washer,
antifreeze and engine oil (better change the filter then?) spark plugs
out (how new are they?). It all adds up. I seriously doubt if I could
get the fairings and radiator out in a 'couple of hours' but then I am a
ham-fisted, impatient git. Better GAMI.
Wicked Uncle Nigel - 02 Aug 2007 21:57 GMT
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Derek Turner
<frderek@cesmail.net> typed

>> Basically scruffy but sound Pan.
>>  What will I get for it?
>>
>Did it get a new cam-belt at 90,000? 1st question a clued-up buyer
>should ask.

Interesting!

The cam belt was done at 60,000. So it's "only" 45,000 old. About
half-way to the next one.

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