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Motorcycle Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / August 2007must be a scam?
200133576844 surely?  Signature/Simon > 200133576844 > > surely? Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of the usual warning signs. If they are happy for you to pay cash on collection and have the bike's correct paperwork then it looks a bargain SignatureAlex "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk >> 200133576844 >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > If they are happy for you to pay cash on collection and have the bike's > correct paperwork then it looks a bargain Bet he says have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major business problems so pick up isn't an option. Sorry about that... Hope you will understand... But, you can still buy the bike... The selling price will be 3,000 pounds... For this price I will include free delivery of the bike anywhere in the UK. You will also have access to a refund policy on this transaction. However, before any delivery can be done we have to start the transaction on ebay so we can be both protected. In order to start the transaction on the eBay system I need to receive some details from you: - your full name and address (for your invoice + delivery purposes)... As soon as the above details will be provided I'll start the official transaction on eBay and they will notify you about this. You'll also receive important guidelines + instructions from them ( please go through them exactly ). Will wait to hear from you. Thank you for your interest... SignatureTriumph SpeedMaster >>> 200133576844 >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >As soon as the above details will be provided I'll start the official transaction on eBay and they will notify you about this. You'll also receive important guidelines + instructions from them ( please go through them exactly ). >Will wait to hear from you. Thank you for your interest... " have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major business problems so pick up isn't an option" This exact same phrase was used in the scam yank car auctions posted yesterday. SignatureChamp ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle To email me, neal at my domain should work. Wotcha. > " have to tell you that I'm currently out of town with some major > business problems so pick up isn't an option" > > This exact same phrase was used in the scam yank car auctions posted > yesterday. Also used when trying to sell a Triumph Bonneville earlier this week. Signature-- ^..^ Lone Wolf www.moonshiners.org.uk <snip> It's this bit "I'll start the official transaction on eBay and they will notify you about this. You'll also receive important guidelines + instructions from them ( please go through them exactly )." That makes me think once you have agreed to buy, you'll receive instructions from a fake Ebay page. SignatureK1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells..... > >>> 200133576844 > > > > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > This exact same phrase was used in the scam yank car auctions posted > yesterday. ... and in the classified ad for the Norton Rotary, and several other ebay classifieds that were mentioned on Chopperbuilder. It's always the same pattern - zero rated business seller, classified ad and a price that's somewhere between too good and way too cheap. SignatureMorini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport x2 | 900SSD Triumph T-Bird chop | K1100LT BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar > It's always the same pattern - zero rated business seller, classified > ad and a price that's somewhere between too good and way too cheap. It's amazing how often scammers spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar. They'll go to incredible lengths and then f.ck it up with the most elementary mistakes. A while back I was chatting with some like-minded people and we decided that if we were ever to try scamming ourselves, we'd be *damn* good at it and we'd be unlikely to be caught. SignatureK1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells..... >> It's always the same pattern - zero rated business seller, classified >> ad and a price that's somewhere between too good and way too cheap. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > that if we were ever to try scamming ourselves, we'd be *damn* good at > it and we'd be unlikely to be caught. Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those who get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives in the drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things look TOO legit. As the man said "The last fool/sucker hasn't been born yet" SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 > Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those > who get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives > in the drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things > look TOO legit. A plod friend of mine maintains that the jails are full of _stupid_ criminals, as they don't have the manpower required to catch the clever ones. Signature"I dunno, I never met the chick." Ebay tat: http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZsimian60QQhtZ-1 > Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those who > get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives in the > drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things look TOO legit. You'd be surprised. A lot of otherwise very intelligent people get scammed. Greed is the key, exploited by expert social engineering. SignatureK1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells..... >> Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those who >> get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives in the >> drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things look TOO legit. > >You'd be surprised. A lot of otherwise very intelligent people get >scammed. Greed is the key, exploited by expert social engineering. "You can't con an honest man". SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk > >> Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those who > >> get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives in the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > "You can't con an honest man". It's one of those wonderful generalisations that is so nearly true. One scam where this truism falls down is the 'cheque overpayment' one. You know: "I'll buy your car, bike, whatever and send you more than you asked for by banker's draft. Please forward the balance to my shipping agent who will come and collect it." This one actually plays on the honesty as well as the gullibility of people, and a surprising number of people still fall for it (especially in the US). That one apart, yes, there is almost always an element of dishonesty and greed on the part of the victim. SignatureK1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells..... In the referenced article, chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) writes: >> "You can't con an honest man". >That one apart, yes, there is almost always an element of dishonesty >and greed on the part of the victim. Somebody else claimed that a smart conman doesn't look for someone who's greedy: he looks for someone who's lonely. SignatureDifferenza fra il rivoluzionaro e il cialtrone. Il rivoluzionario rompe l'orologio e invece di presentarsi alle nove si presenta alle nove meno cinque. Il cialtrone rompe l'orologio e si alza alle undici. Home page: http://people.bath.ac.uk/ensmjc/ > In the referenced article, chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The > Older Gentleman) writes: >Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Somebody else claimed that a smart conman doesn't look for someone > who's greedy: he looks for someone who's lonely. Apart from the bods who prey on widows and the like, I don't buy that. SignatureK1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells..... We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember chateau.murrayTAKETHISOUT@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) saying something like: >> Yeahbut, the jails are filled with people who thought that. And those who >> get scammed by dodgy ebayers aren't usually the sharpest knives in the >> drawer, so the scammers don't have to work at making things look TOO legit. > >You'd be surprised. A lot of otherwise very intelligent people get >scammed. Greed is the key, exploited by expert social engineering. Simple deceit works well. Online transactions ultimately depend on trust and you don't expect to get ripped for a hundred quid or so. Happened to me last October, for a projection panel. SignatureDave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day. > Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of > the usual warning signs. Zero feedback seller. Short description Poor use of English ("Delivery can be done in the UK!") Run a mile. SignatureAndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) Kawasaki ZX-6R J1, Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, DS#5, COSOC# Suspended, KotTFSTR# The speccy Geordie twat. >> 200133576844 >> >> surely? > > Other than the price which seems way too low , there aren't any of the usual > warning signs. Brand new seller and can deliver in the UK, are you sure? > >> 200133576844 > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > warning signs. > Brand new seller and can deliver in the UK, are you sure? IASIAAS SignatureK1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells..... > 200133576844 > > surely? Well what a surprise. I sent him an e-mail, asking for more photos and the registration number. Here's the reply: I'm sorry to say but I don't have any other pics of the bike... You can buy the bike for the price of £1150 . For this price I will also include free delivery of the bike anywhere in the UK. You will also have access to a refund policy on this transaction. However, before any delivery can be done we have to start the transaction on ebay so we can be both protected. In order to start the transaction on the eBay system I need to receive some details from you: - your full name and address (for your invoice + delivery purposes)... As soon as the above details will be provided I'll start the official transaction on eBay and they will notify you about this. You'll also receive important guidelines + instructions from them ( please go through them exactly ). Will wait to hear from you. Thank you for your interest... Signature/Simon > > 200133576844 > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > through them exactly ). Will wait to hear from you. Thank you for > your interest... *ding* That's the email that's being used in all these cases. It's *always* the same email, they just change the price. SignatureMorini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport x2 | 900SSD Triumph T-Bird chop | K1100LT BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar > 200133576844 > > surely? If it's too good to be true it usually is. SignatureMolly Carlsberg don't do motorcycles BUT if they did it would be a Kawasaki www.MollyG.net www.smartmotorcycles.co.uk/ ZX10R; GS500E, GSX600F, GSXR750.. GHPOTHUF#27 TGF, UKRMFBC#7, BOTAFOF#11, YTC#9, GYASB#1. SbS#23. DFWAG#2, DS#2, DIAABTCOD#20. remove "thisbit" in the reply http://www.Sportsbike.org > 200133576844 > > surely? The fact you can't do a vehicle report on it is a clue. SignatureDrew.H > > 200133576844 > > > > surely? > > > The fact you can't do a vehicle report on it is a clue. Most people would have identified it as a scam long before that stage. SignatureK1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells..... >> > 200133576844 >> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Most people would have identified it as a scam long before that stage. But there's always one. My wife put a £1 sticker on my bike at the car boot, obviously as a joke, but one woman phoned her husband. SignatureDrew.H >>> > 200133576844 >>> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > My wife put a £1 sticker on my bike at the car boot, obviously as a joke, > but one woman phoned her husband. £1 was obviously too much.... SignatureDave ex Motorcycle Maintenance Workshop http://tinyurl.com/4mhaw |
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