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Motorcycle Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / August 2007Oops - Seven dead as US bridge collapses
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6927113.stm> "Seven people have died after a freeway bridge over the Mississippi river collapsed in the evening rush hour. At least 60 were injured when part of the I-35W bridge in Minneapolis fell down at 1805 (2305 GMT) on Wednesday. Fire Chief Jim Clack told reporters seven died as the structure buckled, hurling up to 50 vehicles in the water. The US Department of Homeland Security said there was no reason to suspect the fall of the bridge, which had been undergoing repairs, was terror-related." I know they're only Americans, so we shouldn't feel too bad about it, but it's certainly not something one sees everyday. Well, unless one works in the bridge demolition biz.  Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road ><http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6927113.stm> > "Seven people have died after a freeway bridge over the Mississippi > river collapsed in the evening rush hour. ..." > I know they're only Americans, so we shouldn't feel too bad about it, > but it's certainly not something one sees everyday. Well, unless one > works in the bridge demolition biz. "The 40-year-old bridge was undergoing repairs at the time of the accident, and there were reports that construction workers were using a jackhammer at the time of the collapse." -- Daily Telegraph SignatureIvan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration, Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005 WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon) KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty". >><http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6927113.stm> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > accident, and there were reports that construction workers were using a > jackhammer at the time of the collapse." -- Daily Telegraph So why the f.ck did they feel the need to bring up the subject of "terrorism" when the real cause was staring them in the face, I wonder?. The c.nts seem to WANT all incidents to be terror related. c.nts. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 > >><http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6927113.stm> > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > "terrorism" when the real cause was staring them in the face, I wonder?. The > c.nts seem to WANT all incidents to be terror related. c.nts. Possibly because the first reaction of other ignorant c.nts is that the US is under attack again (though why the Forces of Darkness should choose a clapped out bridge over a stinky river is neither here nor there) and the authorities decided the first thing to do was to stop the inbred locals torching any building owned by someone called Patel. SignatureK1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells..... snip> >Possibly because the first reaction of other ignorant c.nts is that the >US is under attack again (though why the Forces of Darkness should >choose a clapped out bridge over a stinky river is neither here nor >there) and the authorities decided the first thing to do was to stop the >inbred locals torching any building owned by someone called Patel. The first thing I did after reading this post was check which groups you'd posted it to. It appears that I misjudged you. > snip> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > It appears that I misjudged you. Heh. Well, I doubt they can read in that neck of the woods anyway. SignatureK1100LT 955i 750SS CB400F CD250 CM200 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 The bells, the bells..... > (though why the Forces of Darkness should choose a clapped out bridge > over a stinky river is neither here nor there) If security on 'strategic' locations (airports, embassies, nuclear installations..) has been 'stepped up' anything like they claim, then this sort of 'attack' (if it had been one) on 'soft' (i.e. unprotected) targets, could be expected to i) occur and ii) become more frequent. D. Signaturedes | 'trop d'la balle, j'kiffe grave!' BMW K100-LT >>><http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6927113.stm> >> >>>"Seven people have died after a freeway bridge over the Mississippi >>>river collapsed in the evening rush hour. ..." >>"The 40-year-old bridge was undergoing repairs at the time of the >>accident, and there were reports that construction workers were using a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > "terrorism" when the real cause was staring them in the face, I wonder?. The > c.nts seem to WANT all incidents to be terror related. c.nts. "staring them in the face" Apparently, you know something everyone else doesn't. Spill it. Some very qualified civil engineers have undoubtedly been consulted already and AFAIK none of them has yet offered the same opinion as you. AIUI, the work that was being done was to the paving only, not to the structure. Still, it certainly will be investigated and could well have contributed to the collapse, but to jump to the conclusion that someone using a jackhammer brought the bridge down is somewhat simplistic, to be generous. As far as whether terrorism was the cause, I doubt it, but who knows at this point? Hard facts are in short supply. All I know is my commute was slightly affected by extra traffic, but as I don't cross the bridge I made it to work at my normal time, by leaving a bit earlier. Signature'01 SV650SK1 '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13 OMF #7 >>>><http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6927113.stm> >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Apparently, you know something everyone else doesn't. Spill it. Here;s a clue. "the fall of the bridge, which had been undergoing repairs," > Some very qualified civil engineers have undoubtedly been consulted > already and AFAIK none of them has yet offered the same opinion as you. Well they're not likely to are they? Yet. > AIUI, the work that was being done was to the paving only, not to > the structure. Still, it certainly will be investigated and could [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > As far as whether terrorism was the cause, I doubt it, but who knows > at this point? Hard facts are in short supply. If it's terrorism, I'll bare may arse on your town hall steps. > All I know is my commute was slightly affected by extra traffic, but > as I don't cross the bridge I made it to work at my normal time, by > leaving a bit earlier. The ubiquitous silver lining? SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>>>><http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6927113.stm> >>>> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > If it's terrorism, I'll bare may arse on your town hall steps. <books plane ticket, buys large SD card for digicam> <thinks....> <reconsiders> <cancels flight> JB >>> As far as whether terrorism was the cause, I doubt it, but who knows >>> at this point? Hard facts are in short supply. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > <reconsiders> > <cancels flight> Good thinking. No sense in wasting money when there's "nothing to see here, move along" :-) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 > > Apparently, you know something everyone else doesn't. Spill it. > > Here;s a clue. "the fall of the bridge, which had been undergoing > repairs," Lots of bridges undergo repair, lots of them (with large cracks in them) don't fall to pieces during repair. A single jackhammer is very unlikely to make the whole f.cking thing fall down. I suspect the jackhammer was only being used to break up concrete on the surface. SignatureMike FJ1200 >Beav wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I suspect the jackhammer was only being used to break up concrete on >the surface. Could it be that the span was only just resting on the support, possibly by inches, and it eventually just gave up and fell off? SignatureRoger Hunt >>Beav wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Could it be that the span was only just resting on the support, possibly >by inches, and it eventually just gave up and fell off? Nope not a chance. There is no doubt it was brought down by turncoat commie faggot ex FBI employees trying to test the Powers That Control and Decide and that the merkin gummint has successfully quietened public fears and any debate about it being Ayrabs will not now happen and the real truth will never be told except by me and who in their right mind pays any attention to that sort of sh.t. Signaturesteve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features >In article <UhtgdvA94hsGFwTY@nospam.demon.co.uk>, Roger Hunt ><nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >be told except by me and who in their right mind pays any attention to >that sort of sh.t. Tests will confirm that the white sticky substance found at the scene was deposited by a crack team of masturbating secret service agents, who used their genetically modified jizm of pH1.5, to corrode the tie bars. SignatureRoger Hunt >> In article <UhtgdvA94hsGFwTY@nospam.demon.co.uk>, Roger Hunt >> <nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > who used their genetically modified jizm of pH1.5, to corrode the tie > bars. Well, they had 9/11 as their "new Pearl Harbor", but there's been such a conspiracy-theory "surge" that they needed a "new Tacoma Narrows" to prove that all sorts of weird sh.t could conveniently happen to structures. Signatureplatypus "fastidious and precise" >>>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6927113.stm> >>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > that someone using a jackhammer brought the bridge down is somewhat > simplistic, to be generous. It may have generated some kind of "forced resonance" effect (akin to a large group of people marching in step) that weakened vital structures. Given the regular and rapid percussive effects of a large drill this might be a possibility. The famous Tacoma Narrows bridge fell down in a mere 40mph wind due to resonance effects. SignatureTony '04 XL1200C, '95 LS650 OMF#24 >> AIUI, the work that was being done was to the paving only, not to >> the structure. Still, it certainly will be investigated and could [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >be a possibility. The famous Tacoma Narrows bridge fell down in a mere 40mph >wind due to resonance effects. There was also a train going under at the time, which the bridge fell on (I bet it stopped quick) but I doubt the rumbles from a train, a drill and one or two lanes of traffic would bring a bridge down that has been there fore four decades. But I'm not an engineer :) Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road >>> AIUI, the work that was being done was to the paving only, not to >>> the structure. Still, it certainly will be investigated and could [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > drill and one or two lanes of traffic would bring a bridge down that > has been there fore four decades. But I'm not an engineer :) And apparently, neither is the blerk who built it. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> saying something like: >Apparently, you know something everyone else doesn't. Spill it. > >Some very qualified civil engineers have undoubtedly been consulted >already and AFAIK none of them has yet offered the same opinion as you. IanaCE but I do know how to shear a bolt or two. Anyway, I heard an eyewitness describe how the shoreside span fell first, the whole structure wobbled a bit then the main span collapsed. Presumably due to unbalanced forces in play then. >All I know is my commute was slightly affected by extra traffic, but >as I don't cross the bridge I made it to work at my normal time, by >leaving a bit earlier. This was in your neck of the woods? SignatureDave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day. >>All I know is my commute was slightly affected by extra traffic, but >>as I don't cross the bridge I made it to work at my normal time, by >>leaving a bit earlier. > This was in your neck of the woods? I live/work 17 miles/7.5 miles from the bridge. Signature'01 SV650SK1 '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13 OMF #7 ><http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6927113.stm> > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >but it's certainly not something one sees everyday. Well, unless one >works in the bridge demolition biz. It may have been caused by the famous American obesity of the occupants of the cars. I bet the bridge designers never factored that in. SignatureRoger Hunt > It may have been caused by the famous American obesity of the occupants > of the cars. I bet the bridge designers never factored that in. > -- > Roger Hunt http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006470329,00.html I'll have another, mate! >> It may have been caused by the famous American obesity of the occupants >> of the cars. I bet the bridge designers never factored that in. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I'll have another, mate! Ah. So being the laughingstock of Europe isn't the _only_ consequence of the UK's cultural proximity to the United States ... D. Signaturedes | 'trop d'la balle, j'kiffe grave!' BMW K100-LT > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6927113.stm> > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > but it's certainly not something one sees everyday. Well, unless one > works in the bridge demolition biz. tags: homelandsecurity, slownewsday, dontgiveafuck Signaturedog sl1000 two#5 > The US Department of Homeland Security said there was no reason to > suspect the fall of the bridge, which had been undergoing repairs, was > terror-related." I wonder if me stubbing my toe on the pavement as I left the house this morning was terror-related? I must ask the Department of Homeland Security. Phil SignaturePhil Launchbury, IT PHB 'I'm training the bats that live in my cube to juggle mushrooms' > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6927113.stm> > > "Seven people have died after a freeway bridge over the Mississippi > river collapsed in the evening rush hour. > At least 60 were injured when part of the I-35W bridge in Minneapolis > fell down at 1805 (2305 GMT) on Wednesday. Apparently, because of the size of the drop, it took a while for the cars to fall into the river. One driver said they counted, "1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi, 3 Mississippi", as they fell down. I'll get my coat. Tim SignatureI never wish I was not what I was not when I didn't wish what I was not was not what I am not. |
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