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Motorcycle Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / August 2007Oh happy day
My Guzzi gearbox problem turned out to be a loose linkage. Tokk slightly longer to fix that expected: I had to unbolt the starter motor to get at the screw. Next job: the bike's steering had been getting a bit... odd, and it dawned on me that I've no recollection of ever greasing that particular bike's head bearings. Whoops. Got the steering apart and they were indeed dry and the bottom rollers were beginning to corrode. I just caught it in time. All well now. It's funny how these jobs seem to come in batches: I've only recently done the R1 because I needed to adjust the bearings; as this entails taking the top yoke off I figured it would be daft not to grease them at the same time. And Off Topic: I'd managed to crash both my model helicopters last week. The indoor Sabre had lost a rotor-head bearing when I crashed it in the garden: it suddenly spun 180 degrees and rolled and I got disorientated. The other, an Eco-8, suffered a bent tailboom because I was trying to teach myself to hover it nose-in and let it drift too close to the shed. I fixed both today. I might start using a tether and anchor plate while I get the nose-in hover sorted.  Signature-Pip > Next job: the bike's steering had been getting a bit... odd, and it > dawned on me that I've no recollection of ever greasing that particular [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > taking the top yoke off I figured it would be daft not to grease them at > the same time. This amazes me on UKRM: you people talk about these jobs the same way I'd describe changing a lightbulb. Where _do_ you learn all this stuff? It takes me =< 1.5 hours to change the headlight bulb on my K, and I rode the FJR around for about 5,000 km, wondering why it kept stalling .. and not realising that there was a little 'nipple' under the fairing to adjust idle rate. :( D. Signaturedes | 'trop d'la balle, j'kiffe grave!' BMW K100-LT > It takes me =< 1.5 hours to change the headlight bulb on my K, and I rode ^ Sorry.. D. Signaturedes | 'trop d'la balle, j'kiffe grave!' BMW K100-LT >> Next job: the bike's steering had been getting a bit... odd, and it >> dawned on me that I've no recollection of ever greasing that particular [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >This amazes me on UKRM: you people talk about these jobs the same way I'd >describe changing a lightbulb. Where _do_ you learn all this stuff? Well, doing it on simpler shite old bikes in one's yoof gives one the experience and the confidence, though any experienced mechanic would do the jobs in a third of the time it takes me to do them. I resorted to the HBoL for the exact procedure for the R1, in case there were any surprises, it being a new toy and all. As for the Guzzi, I just put a jack under the engine and undid stuff. Only problem was the fact that after removing the top yoke and adjuster ring, the steering stem steadfastly refused to drop out of the top bearing. My puller just slipped off, so after making sure I hadn't missed anything I resorted to placing a short bit of mild steel bar on the end of the stem and hitting it with a hammer. Sorted. Signature-Pip >>> Next job: the bike's steering had been getting a bit... odd, and it >>> dawned on me that I've no recollection of ever greasing that particular [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>> taking the top yoke off I figured it would be daft not to grease them >>> at the same time. >>This amazes me on UKRM: you people talk about these jobs the same way I'd >>describe changing a lightbulb. Where _do_ you learn all this stuff? > Well, doing it on simpler shite old bikes in one's yoof gives one the > experience and the confidence, though any experienced mechanic would do > the jobs in a third of the time it takes me to do them. I resorted to the > HBoL for the exact procedure for the R1, in case there were any > surprises, it being a new toy and all. I regret not getting a bike until my thirties. > As for the Guzzi, I just put a jack under the engine and undid stuff. > Only problem was the fact that after removing the top yoke and adjuster > ring, the steering stem steadfastly refused to drop out of the top > bearing. My puller just slipped off, so after making sure I hadn't missed > anything I resorted to placing a short bit of mild steel bar on the end > of the stem and hitting it with a hammer. Sorted. LOL .. see what I mean?? D. Signaturedes | 'trop d'la balle, j'kiffe grave!' BMW K100-LT > My puller just slipped off, so after making sure I > hadn't missed anything I resorted to placing a short bit of mild steel > bar on the end of the stem and hitting it with a hammer. Sorted. Kinell. <mops brow> Signatureplatypus "fastidious and precise" >> My puller just slipped off, so after making sure I >> hadn't missed anything I resorted to placing a short bit of mild steel >> bar on the end of the stem and hitting it with a hammer. Sorted. > >Kinell. <mops brow> If it helps, I did bung the bar into the lathe and face off the end that bore against the stem. It just needed... persuading. Mwahahahah! Signature-Pip >Pip Luscher <pips.computer@spammers.foad.ntlworld.co.uk> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >This amazes me on UKRM: you people talk about these jobs the same way I'd >describe changing a lightbulb. Where _do_ you learn all this stuff? It takes several instances of dropping all the bearings on a gritty floor, while rushing a job before the light goes, and then having a forkless bike fall off its stand just as everything has been found, and having to start all over again. SignatureRoger Hunt >>This amazes me on UKRM: you people talk about these jobs the same way I'd >>describe changing a lightbulb. Where _do_ you learn all this stuff? >> >It takes several instances of dropping all the bearings on a gritty >floor, Talking of which, when I was checking the Guzzi's clutch cable out on the drive, I heard the unwelcome 'clunk' of something falling onto the gravel. Couldn't immediately see them, so I waved a magnetic parts tray over the ground and as if by magic, 'kerlunk' as the bits attached themselves to the bottom of the tray. Signature-Pip >On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:22:43 +0100, Roger Hunt ><nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >the ground and as if by magic, 'kerlunk' as the bits attached >themselves to the bottom of the tray. Nice one. Old hard drive magnets are useful too, for that. SignatureRoger Hunt Des <des@yahoo.fr> wrote in message <gckho4-ld5.ln1@alt-activism-death-penalty.org>: >This amazes me on UKRM: you people talk about these jobs the same way I'd >describe changing a lightbulb. Where _do_ you learn all this stuff? I think it's a consequence for many of us of having had bikes as a sole means of transport when money was too tight to afford garages. Haynes manuals (or similar) are your friend if you want to do this stuff. >It takes me =< 1.5 hours to change the headlight bulb on my K, It's fiddly on the K fair enough but it shouldn't take more than 10 minutes once you've worked out how the bulb is secured. SignatureK75RT, K1100LT, ZXR750H1, 5TA. I know I aint doing much, doing nothing means a lot to me. > I think it's a consequence for many of us of having had bikes as a sole > means of transport when money was too tight to afford garages. ...and pretty sh.t bikes at that. Oh, how things change with age, money and experience. SignatureSimon >> I think it's a consequence for many of us of having had bikes as a sole >> means of transport when money was too tight to afford garages. > > ...and pretty sh.t bikes at that. > > Oh, how things change with age, money and experience. Well they do for most of us :o) SignatureMonz Suzuki GSXR1000 K6 [insert nickname here] @gsxr1000.co.uk ANORAK#16 | BOTAFOT #135 | BREast#2 | MIRTTH#25 | BoB#16 | IBB#11 | FNAR#1 KoTL | > Des <des@yahoo.fr> wrote in message > <gckho4-ld5.ln1@alt-activism-death-penalty.org>: >>Pip Luscher <pips.computer@spammers.foad.ntlworld.co.uk> wrote: This >>amazes me on UKRM: you people talk about these jobs the same way I'd >>describe changing a lightbulb. Where _do_ you learn all this stuff? > I think it's a consequence for many of us of having had bikes as a sole > means of transport when money was too tight to afford garages. > > Haynes manuals (or similar) are your friend if you want to do this stuff. I've got one. I bought it the week after buying the K. It is scary that when changing the bulb, I in fact _do_ follow the Haynes guide. >>It takes me =< 1.5 hours to change the headlight bulb on my K, > It's fiddly on the K fair enough but it shouldn't take more than 10 > minutes once you've worked out how the bulb is secured. First time it took me even longer, and there were two of us at it. And my fingers touched the glass; dunno if that had anything to do with the bulb blowing again after barely a few hundred kilometres. That was the time I found myself in la Roche-Migennes having to ride with hazards and intermittent flashing of the headlight. D. Signaturedes | 'trop d'la balle, j'kiffe grave!' BMW K100-LT > This amazes me on UKRM: you people talk about these jobs the same way > I'd describe changing a lightbulb. Where do you learn all this stuff? I learn this stuff restoring SO-DirtBikes, trials bikes, motocrossers etc. They have nothing complicated in them especially as all mine are two-strokes. Learn a lot from my Dad too (used to work in a bike shop in the Rhondda Valleys Phil Jones MC if anyone knew it) SignatureXJ600S > My Guzzi gearbox problem turned out to be a loose linkage. Tokk > slightly longer to fix that expected: I had to unbolt the starter [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > close to the shed. I fixed both today. I might start using a tether > and anchor plate while I get the nose-in hover sorted. If you do, you'll be buying more parts. Believe me, tethering ISN'T the way to go. Think "inverted pendulum" with extra bits. What you need is a bloody good simulator. RealFlight G3 or Phoenix. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >> And Off Topic: I'd managed to crash both my model helicopters last >> week. The indoor Sabre had lost a rotor-head bearing when I crashed it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >If you do, you'll be buying more parts. Believe me, tethering ISN'T the way >to go. Think "inverted pendulum" with extra bits. I get what you're saying, but it actually works OK. Been doing it for years. This kind of indicates my progress! >What you need is a bloody good simulator. RealFlight G3 or Phoenix. Trouble is, they are rather expensive. I could buy quite a few tail booms for the price of a simulator. Instead, I've got 'RC stunt copter' for my old Playstation. Not a true simulator but has helped a bit. I switch to 'fixed camera' view and fly the heli around in free flight stunt mode. Signature-Pip >>> And Off Topic: I'd managed to crash both my model helicopters last >>> week. The indoor Sabre had lost a rotor-head bearing when I crashed it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I get what you're saying, but it actually works OK. Been doing it for > years. This kind of indicates my progress! And the efficiency of the method. Get the heli in the air, turn it round and fly the f.cking thing. It only takes a few minutes anyway before nose-in flying becomes 2nd nature. >>What you need is a bloody good simulator. RealFlight G3 or Phoenix. > > Trouble is, they are rather expensive. "Penny wise pound foolish" sound familiar? >I could buy quite a few tail > booms for the price of a simulator. For 100 quid you get a great sim and as many crashes as you could ever handle. It's not just the cost of replacing a tail boom, it's the time it takes plus the necessity to set the heli up again properly (if it was ever done in the first place) >Instead, I've got 'RC stunt > copter' for my old Playstation. Not a true simulator but has helped a > bit. Not as much as you think. You may THINK it's helped a lot, but after flying every sim on the market (including RC c.nt copter) plus having had an RC heli school for 15 years, take it from me, c.nt copter does f.ck all but throw up wrong muscle memories. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>>> And Off Topic: I'd managed to crash both my model helicopters last >>>> week. The indoor Sabre had lost a rotor-head bearing when I crashed it [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >fly the f.cking thing. It only takes a few minutes anyway before nose-in >flying becomes 2nd nature. Yeah, lack of practice. The last garden was too small really and I couldn't be arsed to lug it all out to a flying site. Then the heli lost lift and got consigned to a cupboard. It's only the recent purchase of an indoor flyer that rekindled my interest and I finally got round to sorting the problem. >>>What you need is a bloody good simulator. RealFlight G3 or Phoenix. >> >> Trouble is, they are rather expensive. > >"Penny wise pound foolish" sound familiar? It's my life motto. Signature-Pip >>>>> And Off Topic: I'd managed to crash both my model helicopters last >>>>> week. The indoor Sabre had lost a rotor-head bearing when I crashed it [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > purchase of an indoor flyer that rekindled my interest and I finally > got round to sorting the problem. I've got a lovely Robbe Futura with a YS 90 going begging. >>>>What you need is a bloody good simulator. RealFlight G3 or Phoenix. >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It's my life motto. Snap :-) SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >I've got a lovely Robbe Futura with a YS 90 going begging. Hum. I did consider IC but I'll prolly stick to electric for now. I'm also a little short of spare cash ATM. Signature-Pip >>I've got a lovely Robbe Futura with a YS 90 going begging. > >Hum. I did consider IC but I'll prolly stick to electric for now. I'm >also a little short of spare cash ATM. Speaking of which, I'd best mail you. Done. SignaturePip: B12 >>Hum. I did consider IC but I'll prolly stick to electric for now. I'm >>also a little short of spare cash ATM. > >Speaking of which, I'd best mail you. > >Done. And bounced. De-mung it for me please, Pip - my addy in my headers works. SignaturePip: B12 >And bounced. > >De-mung it for me please, Pip - my addy in my headers works. Ahem. There was a cunning security typo in my user profile in Agent; now fixed. Signature-Pip >>I've got a lovely Robbe Futura with a YS 90 going begging. > > Hum. I did consider IC but I'll prolly stick to electric for now. I'm > also a little short of spare cash ATM. I've dabbled in leccies over the years, but they don't really "do it" for me like the methanol heli's do. I like the smoke, the stink, the grief and the NOISE of glo engined heli's. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >>>I've got a lovely Robbe Futura with a YS 90 going begging. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >like the methanol heli's do. I like the smoke, the stink, the grief and the >NOISE of glo engined heli's. I love strokers and especially the smell of methanol/castor oil in the morning. But electric models can be flown in the garden and my 'private flying site' has a house and horses nearby, though to be fair they don't seem to be bothered by an Allen scythe. Signature-Pip >>>>I've got a lovely Robbe Futura with a YS 90 going begging. >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > 'private flying site' has a house and horses nearby, though to be fair > they don't seem to be bothered by an Allen scythe. I rented a field beside horses and cattle for years. They didn't GAF about the heli's, but they WERE interested in whate ver we took there for lunch. btw, I've not used castor oil in a glo motor for more than 20 years. All synthetic these days and the engines never varnish up. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >I rented a field beside horses and cattle for years. They didn't GAF about >the heli's, but they WERE interested in whate ver we took there for lunch. I'm actually more concerned about the owners, TBH; I'd like to keep on good terms because technically, though I have right of way, they own the access track. >btw, I've not used castor oil in a glo motor for more than 20 years. All >synthetic these days and the engines never varnish up. Pah. A bit of varnish never hurt anyone (conveniently ignoring collection of gunged-up motors). Talking of motors, what's the quietest IC motor these days? Actually, a mate did tell me he didn't use castor-based fuel any more. Signature-Pip >>I rented a field beside horses and cattle for years. They didn't GAF about >>the heli's, but they WERE interested in whate ver we took there for lunch. > > I'm actually more concerned about the owners, TBH; I'd like to keep on > good terms because technically, though I have right of way, they own > the access track. Agreed. Piss those off and it's game over. >>btw, I've not used castor oil in a glo motor for more than 20 years. All >>synthetic these days and the engines never varnish up. > > Pah. A bit of varnish never hurt anyone (conveniently ignoring > collection of gunged-up motors). It hurts heli's when the engines suddenly lose power and come to a sludgy stop. Not all the flyers can do auto's well enough to get their heli's down in one piece. > Talking of motors, what's the quietest IC motor these days? The one with the biggest silencer:-) My Rossi's are f.cking loud unless I use a Rossi pipe, or better still a Burley pipe yet my YS 90 is very quite. Probably becuae the 90's don't rev so high for the same rotor revs. > Actually, a mate did tell me he didn't use castor-based fuel any more. I don't know *anyone* who does. It as Ok when there was nothing else, but after the ML70 debacle, synthetics took a leap forward and castor all but died a death. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 >I don't know *anyone* who does. It as Ok when there was nothing else, but >after the ML70 debacle, synthetics took a leap forward and castor all but >died a death. Debacle? After all this talk of fuels, I remembered that I've still got a full bottle of Model Technics fuel that must be at least twelve years old. Must be ready to drink by now. That or use to light bonfires. Signature-Pip >>I don't know *anyone* who does. It as Ok when there was nothing else, but >>after the ML70 debacle, synthetics took a leap forward and castor all but [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >bottle of Model Technics fuel that must be at least twelve years old. >Must be ready to drink by now. That or use to light bonfires. Somewhere in the shed I think I still have 10 litres of Isopropyl Alchohol[1] originally obtained under the pretext of it being a diesel additive. [1] It should be nicely mature by now, I might just pop into the pretentious drinks thread and offer my comments. Signaturesteve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features >>I don't know *anyone* who does. It as Ok when there was nothing else, but >>after the ML70 debacle, synthetics took a leap forward and castor all but >>died a death. > > Debacle? Yeah. It was touted as the best thing since sliced bread but it fell a bit short and more than a few engines siezed solid. It eventually got sorted and it's still available but I doubt it's the same as it was "in the beginning". EDL is the best stuff. > After all this talk of fuels, I remembered that I've still got a full > bottle of Model Technics fuel that must be at least twelve years old. I've got some too, but it doesn't look like it did when I bought it :-) > Must be ready to drink by now. That or use to light bonfires. Aye, it'll still do that. In fact, if it's unopened and it's been kept in the dark, it should still run a glo-motor. SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 |
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