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jencaprontee@googlemail.com - 06 Aug 2007 14:22 GMT
Please help oh great FOAK..... I'm wanting to get a GPS for the bike -
doesn't really matter whether it goes on my R1 or himself's Mille
really as we're both crap at directions & have intercom anyway.

I guess I'm looking for something decent that we can fit to either of
the bikes, but also to take out to the US with us in September (see
above comment about both being crap with directions!) and don't really
want to be constantly doing u-turns on a Harley (1) ! (not when I'm
really not used to it).

I'd rather not spend too much, not over 500ukp as I'd like to get a
Digicam as well (also any advice there would be useful).  So whats the
most reliable & easy to use, has anyone got any experience or thoughts
that may help getting a GPS for the bike?

TIA

(1) We decided on a pair of Heritage Softail Classics in the end - and
thanks for all your help with that, ta muchly

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Eddie - 06 Aug 2007 14:34 GMT
> So whats the
> most reliable & easy to use, has anyone got any experience or thoughts
> that may help getting a GPS for the bike?

I recently treated myself to a Garmin Quest; I'm quite happy with
reading maps and following directions, but I like gadgets.

It got me to Chimay and back (~1000 mile round trip), and I was happy
with the way it took me. Cut a few corners off autoroutes that I
wouldn't have bothered trying if I'd been map-reading, and led me along
some interesting roads.

It hasn't got a huge amount of memory, so you'll need to just load the
detailed maps that you think you're likely to need, and use the base map
for the roads in between.

As for fitting directly to the bikes, you're a bit screwed really. You
can buy a motorcycle-mounting kit, but you still need to buy or make
something to which that can be attached[0]. You might be able to get
away with the handlebar clamp, but that leaves the problem of power, but
the Quest allegedly has ~20hr battery life.

[0] On the ZX-9R, I made up a plate that cable-ties to the screen brace,
then the motorcycle mount clamps to that.
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BRC - 06 Aug 2007 15:05 GMT
> jencapron...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > So whats the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I recently treated myself to a Garmin Quest; I'm quite happy with
> reading maps and following directions, but I like gadgets.

Gadgets are good :-)  I'm ok if I have good directions, hence the real
need for something reliable tbh.

> It got me to Chimay and back (~1000 mile round trip), and I was happy
> with the way it took me. Cut a few corners off autoroutes that I
> wouldn't have bothered trying if I'd been map-reading, and led me along
> some interesting roads.

That sounds pretty good, much what we'd like to do without wasting too
much time getting lost (which we do on a regluar basis!)

> It hasn't got a huge amount of memory, so you'll need to just load the
> detailed maps that you think you're likely to need, and use the base map
> for the roads in between.

Ok, thats good to know.

> As for fitting directly to the bikes, you're a bit screwed really. You
> can buy a motorcycle-mounting kit, but you still need to buy or make
> something to which that can be attached[0]. You might be able to get
> away with the handlebar clamp, but that leaves the problem of power, but
> the Quest allegedly has ~20hr battery life.

What batteries does it take?  I'm guessing that it can be plugged
directly into the bike, probably go on the Mille in that case.

> [0] On the ZX-9R, I made up a plate that cable-ties to the screen brace,
> then the motorcycle mount clamps to that.

Definately go on the Mille as it has quite a bit of room behind the
screen & hopefully I can bribe by means of beer tokens someone to make
up a brace that should fit it.

Thanks :-)

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Eddie - 06 Aug 2007 16:04 GMT
>> As for fitting directly to the bikes, you're a bit screwed really. You
>> can buy a motorcycle-mounting kit, but you still need to buy or make
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> What batteries does it take?  I'm guessing that it can be plugged
> directly into the bike, probably go on the Mille in that case.

The battery's a built-in lithium one, IIRC; non-replaceable. The
motorcycle mount kit includes a power cable to link into the bike.

>> [0] On the ZX-9R, I made up a plate that cable-ties to the screen brace,
>> then the motorcycle mount clamps to that.
>
> Definately go on the Mille as it has quite a bit of room behind the
> screen & hopefully I can bribe by means of beer tokens someone to make
> up a brace that should fit it.

You could also look at getting a RAM mount kit for it, but I've got a
feeling you might need Garmin's motorcycle mount anyway for the cable.

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The Longhaired Boxhead - 06 Aug 2007 14:43 GMT
>I guess I'm looking for something decent that we can fit to either of
>the bikes, but also to take out to the US with us in September

Whereabouts and when are you going again? I'll be around Vegas in September...

> (see
>above comment about both being crap with directions!) and don't really
>want to be constantly doing u-turns on a Harley (1) ! (not when I'm
>really not used to it).

The roads over there are wider :)

>I'd rather not spend too much, not over 500ukp as I'd like to get a
>Digicam as well (also any advice there would be useful).  So whats the
>most reliable & easy to use, has anyone got any experience or thoughts
>that may help getting a GPS for the bike?

Several of us have Garmin 2610s and rate them. The main issue with them for
use on different bikes is that they don't have a battery. Some Harleys have
accessory sockets but I'm not sure the Softails have them. US maps can be
picked up for reasonable money on ebay US (I think I paid ~120 bux, but I had
them shipped to Ann so I only had to pay for domestic shipping).

If you want a battery-operated GPS, look at Garmin Quest and Quest 2, but
make sure you get the European version (the US ones have half the memory, and
they're non-expandable),
BRC - 06 Aug 2007 15:01 GMT
On 6 Aug, 14:43, "The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com"
<u33672@uwe> wrote:
> jencapron...@googlemail.com wrote:
> >I guess I'm looking for something decent that we can fit to either of
> >the bikes, but also to take out to the US with us in September
>
> Whereabouts and when are you going again? I'll be around Vegas in September...

September 13th we fly out & we're flying to San Diego picking the
bikes up on the Friday & heading over to Vegas on the Monday - when
are you there?

> > (see
> >above comment about both being crap with directions!) and don't really
> >want to be constantly doing u-turns on a Harley (1) ! (not when I'm
> >really not used to it).
>
> The roads over there are wider :)

Hehe, ta, I'm not much good at u-turns on the R1 either anyway.

> >I'd rather not spend too much, not over 500ukp as I'd like to get a
> >Digicam as well (also any advice there would be useful).  So whats the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> picked up for reasonable money on ebay US (I think I paid ~120 bux, but I had
> them shipped to Ann so I only had to pay for domestic shipping).

Thanks, I'll have a look at the Garmin - Eddie has also suggested
Garmin as well, are they pretty reliable?

> If you want a battery-operated GPS, look at Garmin Quest and Quest 2, but
> make sure you get the European version (the US ones have half the memory, and
> they're non-expandable),

Ah ok.  Ta v much.

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the_longhaired_boxhead - 06 Aug 2007 15:12 GMT
>On 6 Aug, 14:43, "The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com"
><u33672@uwe> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>bikes up on the Friday & heading over to Vegas on the Monday - when
>are you there?

I'm flying back to the UK on the 25th, but I don't know if we'll be in Vegas
as we've promised to go see Ann's mum in Colorado and I'm not sure when
that's going to happen during the two-weeks-and-a-bit I'm over there.

>> >I'd rather not spend too much, not over 500ukp as I'd like to get a
>> >Digicam as well (also any advice there would be useful).  So whats the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Thanks, I'll have a look at the Garmin - Eddie has also suggested
>Garmin as well, are they pretty reliable?

I haven't had any problems with mine so far - had it for a year or so but
bought it used so it survived several years of use OK... Don't know about the
Quest as I haven't played with one.
BRC - 06 Aug 2007 15:28 GMT
On 6 Aug, 15:12, "the_longhaired_boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com"
<u33672@uwe> wrote:
> >On 6 Aug, 14:43, "The Longhaired Boxhead via MotorcycleKB.com"
> ><u33672@uwe> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> as we've promised to go see Ann's mum in Colorado and I'm not sure when
> that's going to happen during the two-weeks-and-a-bit I'm over there.

We'll be around sometime over that fortnight as we're using Vegas as a
base to hop to the Grand Canyon & around for a few days too.  Give us
a shout nearer the time.

> >> >I'd rather not spend too much, not over 500ukp as I'd like to get a
> >> >Digicam as well (also any advice there would be useful).  So whats the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> bought it used so it survived several years of use OK... Don't know about the
> Quest as I haven't played with one.

Garmin seem to have a reasonable reputation & I've been on one website
that seems to have some good deasl at the mo.  So ta for your help.

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Badger - 06 Aug 2007 15:13 GMT
> I'd like to get a
> Digicam as well (also any advice there would be useful).

Tell us yer budget, and tell us whether you specifically want something
small & light or something SLR-ish.

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BRC - 06 Aug 2007 15:33 GMT
> jencapron...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > I'd like to get a
> > Digicam as well (also any advice there would be useful).
>
> Tell us yer budget, and tell us whether you specifically want something
> small & light or something SLR-ish.

I'm actually wanting a digital camcorder, something reasonably light
that I can carry around.  I'm wanting the get the GPS as well so don't
really want to spend more than ?600 on them both - less if possible.

I've found the Garmin Quest (old style) for under ?300 if it's any
good. So leaves about ?300 - ?350 I guess.  Less is always better
though.

Cheers

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Eddie - 06 Aug 2007 16:07 GMT
> I've found the Garmin Quest (old style) for under £300 if it's any
> good. So leaves about £300 - £350 I guess.  Less is always better
> though.

What?! For that price, you should be getting a Quest V2, not an original
Quest.

I think I paid ~£180 for mine.

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The Longhaired Boxhead - 06 Aug 2007 16:25 GMT
>> I've found the Garmin Quest (old style) for under £300 if it's any
>> good. So leaves about £300 - £350 I guess.  Less is always better
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>I think I paid ~£180 for mine.

's wot I was thinking. Used Quest (1) seem to go for around 100-120 quid on
fleabay.
Eddie - 06 Aug 2007 16:51 GMT
>>> I've found the Garmin Quest (old style) for under £300 if it's any
>>> good. So leaves about £300 - £350 I guess.  Less is always better
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> 's wot I was thinking. Used Quest (1) seem to go for around 100-120 quid on
> fleabay.

I was going to be mine second-hand, but decided that I wasted more than
60 quids' worth of my time by trying to get a bargain.

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frag - 12 Aug 2007 14:38 GMT
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> > jencapron...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > > I'd like to get a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Cheers

Loads of camcorders on EBay (new, in UK), depends on what kind of
quality and features you want?

They range from ?30 to ?eeeek.

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Gyp - 06 Aug 2007 20:20 GMT
>I'd rather not spend too much, not over 500ukp as I'd like to get a
>Digicam as well (also any advice there would be useful).  So whats the
>most reliable & easy to use, has anyone got any experience or thoughts
>that may help getting a GPS for the bike?

Like others, I've got a 2610 which has done me proud on car and bike.
Catch might be the power on a rental

>(1) We decided on a pair of Heritage Softail Classics in the end - and
>thanks for all your help with that, ta muchly

Hers and hers Harleys. Nice ;-)
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BRC - 09 Aug 2007 12:38 GMT
> In message <1186406543.188983.207...@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
> jencapron...@googlemail.com writes
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Like others, I've got a 2610 which has done me proud on car and bike.
> Catch might be the power on a rental

I guess thats  why I wanted something with the option of running on
battery power as well as plugging it into the bike.
Cheers for your advice tho.

> >(1) We decided on a pair of Heritage Softail Classics in the end - and
> >thanks for all your help with that, ta muchly
>
> Hers and hers Harleys. Nice ;-)

Say what you like, I'm gonna be out in California, in the sun, on
holiday, not thinking in the slightest about work or you mob stuck
back in good ole Blighty :-)

Besides, it may be academic for the moment as I've just bought another
bike.......Gotta choose between the GPS and a Digital Camcorder

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frag - 12 Aug 2007 14:40 GMT
BRC banged the rocks together and they said :

> Besides, it may be academic for the moment as I've just bought another
> bike.......Gotta choose between the GPS and a Digital Camcorder

Don't tell me, you wore the last one out going round in circles
lost.... ;->

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Drew.H - 07 Aug 2007 15:59 GMT
> Please help oh great FOAK..... I'm wanting to get a GPS for the bike -
> doesn't really matter whether it goes on my R1 or himself's Mille
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> TIA

I just bought an O2 XDA mini S (PDA/phone, with TomTom installed) and a
Bluetooth GPS.  I also have a Bluetooth earpiece to listen to the
instructions.  The problem I had was waterproofing the XDA and mounting it
to the bike.  Solution was a tank bag with map pocket.

I've also got Memory map, not only for walks in the Lakes, but it can also
record my speed/position/distance and produce interesting graphs.

The 02 XDA Orbit has a built in GPS, but at a price.

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frag - 12 Aug 2007 14:31 GMT
jencaprontee@googlemail.com banged the rocks together and they said :

> Please help oh great FOAK..... I'm wanting to get a GPS for the bike -
> doesn't really matter whether it goes on my R1 or himself's Mille
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> (1) We decided on a pair of Heritage Softail Classics in the end - and
> thanks for all your help with that, ta muchly

Get one made for the job, TomTom Rider 2.

Others need water/splash proofing, buying of 3rd party mounts (cause
they will invariably only come with a windscreen suction mount), wiring
of power leads (which is a good idea actually for the TT R2)

You'll get a cheapo digicam wodge of change out of £500 I'd say.
http://www.gpsw.co.uk/details/prod3463.html

Oh, by digicam do you mean camera or camcorder? Or both?

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Greybeard - 12 Aug 2007 16:58 GMT
> jencaprontee@googlemail.com banged the rocks together and they said :
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Get one made for the job, TomTom Rider 2.

Nah.
Get the Garmin Zumo, the mapping is _much_ better than TomTom's.
IMHO only of course ;o)

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gomez - 13 Aug 2007 11:05 GMT
>Get one made for the job, TomTom Rider 2.
>
>Others need water/splash proofing, buying of 3rd party mounts

So the TT Rider mount doesn't break as soon as look it now then?  And
there are other weatherproof units on the market.  Do TT guarantee
theirs?
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frag - 14 Aug 2007 13:05 GMT
> > Get one made for the job, TomTom Rider 2.
> >
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> there are other weatherproof units on the market.  Do TT guarantee
> theirs?

I'll bow to your first hand experience (cause I have none), but in
general TT stuff is good, and a unit designed especially for bikes I
would imagine to have a sturdy mount, and to be waterproof.

Its pretty pointless if those two things aren't.

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