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I've got a Duron 1.3 with 768megs of ram and an old Voodoo 3 graphics card. If I shove a tuner card in it, am I going to be able to get it working as a media center type thing, and still have it working normally for basic web browsing / torrent grabbing work? It'll not be my main PC, but it'll need to be tolerably quick. Are there any specific bits of hardware that help with this sort of work? > I've got a Duron 1.3 with 768megs of ram and an old Voodoo 3 graphics > card. If I shove a tuner card in it, am I going to be able to get it > working as a media center type thing, and still have it working normally > for basic web browsing / torrent grabbing work? It'll not be my main PC, > but it'll need to be tolerably quick. Are there any specific bits of > hardware that help with this sort of work? And I'd not be averse to swapping the graphics card as the V3 is a pain to set up in Ubuntu, though the mainboard is an old Asus P2B, so it'll not run anything super modern, as the voltages requirements for cards increased over time apparently. >I've got a Duron 1.3 with 768megs of ram and an old Voodoo 3 graphics card. >If I shove a tuner card in it, am I going to be able to get it working as a >media center type thing, and still have it working normally for basic web >browsing / torrent grabbing work? It'll not be my main PC, but it'll need to >be tolerably quick. Are there any specific bits of hardware that help with >this sort of work? Probably. The TV card does most of the work - even when my PVR is recording one program and playing back another, the CPU isn't do much - just shunting stuff to and from disk. Mind you, I don't use my PVR for anything non-media at all (i.e. it just does TV, music and photo albums). However, this is an in-exact science. Stick a TV card in the box and see. If it's no good, you can either flog the card on, or put it in a newer, better box.  SignatureChamp ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle To email me, neal at my domain should work. >>I've got a Duron 1.3 with 768megs of ram and an old Voodoo 3 graphics >>card. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > see. If it's no good, you can either flog the card on, or put it in a > newer, better box. I suppose so. Hardware encoding sounds like it'd be ideal for what I want. The machines' got a few hard drives in it, and can run some flavour of RAID (though it is a shite highpoint chipset), and has a matching pair of 80 gig drives, with a seperate drive that could be used for booting and "normal" data storage > I've got a Duron 1.3 with 768megs of ram and an old Voodoo 3 graphics > card. If I shove a tuner card in it, am I going to be able to get it > working as a media center type thing, and still have it working normally > for basic web browsing / torrent grabbing work? It'll not be my main PC, > but it'll need to be tolerably quick. Are there any specific bits of > hardware that help with this sort of work? Check out mythtv to see if it supports your hardware. You can download pre-configured versions (eg mythdora) that you can use to quickly check if your hardware works. HTH Signature/Simon >> I've got a Duron 1.3 with 768megs of ram and an old Voodoo 3 graphics >> card. If I shove a tuner card in it, am I going to be able to get it [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > HTH Is there a tv guide database freely available for the UK then? >> Check out mythtv to see if it supports your hardware. You can download >> pre-configured versions (eg mythdora) that you can use to quickly [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Is there a tv guide database freely available for the UK then? IIRC, mythtv uses a similar input format as GB-PVR, which accepts programme information in XML format, generated from XMLTV, XMLTV-GUI, or similar. Those utilities can grab their information from a number of sources, including (but not limited to) radiotimes.com, which is free. SignatureEddie eddie@deguello.org http://www.last.fm/group/ukrm >>> I've got a Duron 1.3 with 768megs of ram and an old Voodoo 3 graphics >>> card. If I shove a tuner card in it, am I going to be able to get it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Is there a tv guide database freely available for the UK then? If you use a Freeview card then mythtv can use the over the air guide that freeview broadcasts. Signature/Simon >> I've got a Duron 1.3 with 768megs of ram and an old Voodoo 3 graphics >> card. If I shove a tuner card in it, am I going to be able to get it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >pre-configured versions (eg mythdora) that you can use to quickly check >if your hardware works. GB-PVR seems pretty good on hardware support. In fact, the only thing that seems to matter is the TV card, and as that's the thing that Doki is going to buy, he can obviously choose one that's supported. Anyway, pretty much any card by Hauppauge seems to be supported by everything. SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk >>> I've got a Duron 1.3 with 768megs of ram and an old Voodoo 3 graphics >>> card. If I shove a tuner card in it, am I going to be able to get it [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Anyway, pretty much any card by Hauppauge seems to be supported by > everything. Do any of the cards take the MPEG stream from Freeview and just dump it straight onto the hardrive? That'd seem like the most sane option to me, rather than spending CPU time decompressing and then re-encoding something. I assume that'd result in loss of quality, though I have naff all understanding of how MPEG works... >Do any of the cards take the MPEG stream from Freeview and just dump it >straight onto the hardrive? eh? Do you really think the TV stream can be "just dumped on the hard drive"? >That'd seem like the most sane option to me, >rather than spending CPU time decompressing and then re-encoding something. As I said earlier - it doesn't use any CPU time. The processing is done on the TV card. >I assume that'd result in loss of quality, though I have naff all >understanding of how MPEG works... Me neither, but I usually choose not to parade my ignorance in public, SignatureChamp ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle To email me, neal at my domain should work. >> Do any of the cards take the MPEG stream from Freeview and just dump it >> straight onto the hardrive? > > eh? Do you really think the TV stream can be "just dumped on the hard > drive"? Acknowledging that ICB entirely W, I'm fairly sure that's what a .ts (ts being transport stream) file is and many DVB (Freeview and digital satellite) cards dump that to disk. >>Do any of the cards take the MPEG stream from Freeview and just dump it >>straight onto the hardrive? > > eh? Do you really think the TV stream can be "just dumped on the hard > drive"? I can't see why not. The programme is transmitted as an MPEG, so why can't it just be pushed on to the hard drive as the same MPEG? >>That'd seem like the most sane option to me, >>rather than spending CPU time decompressing and then re-encoding >>something. > > As I said earlier - it doesn't use any CPU time. The processing is > done on the TV card. That seems to be contrary to what the MythTV faq says, although they may be talking about Analogue telly. > > Do any of the cards take the MPEG stream from Freeview and just > > dump it straight onto the hardrive? > > eh? Do you really think the TV stream can be "just dumped on the hard > drive"? Of course you can, if it's a digital cable/satellite/etc signal. You might have to decrypt it to watch it, but the BBC channels would be OK. You might also want to demux the channels to save space. > Me neither, but I usually choose not to parade my ignorance in public, *snigger* Signature"I dunno, I never met the chick." >> Me neither, but I usually choose not to parade my ignorance in public, > >*snigger* "usually" SignatureChamp ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle To email me, neal at my domain should work. > >> Me neither, but I usually choose not to parade my ignorance in > >> public, > > > > *snigger* > > "usually" "*snigger*" Signature"I dunno, I never met the chick." >"I dunno, I never met the chick." Ok, I give up - where *is* your sig quote from? SignatureChamp ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle To email me, neal at my domain should work. > > "I dunno, I never met the chick." > > Ok, I give up - where is your sig quote from? According to Andrew Marr, it was Keith Richards response when asked how he felt about the death of ex-princess Diana. Adopted due to the continual shite like this on the news at the moment: http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=7114&&&edition=1&tt l=20070812085555 Signature"I dunno, I never met the chick." >> > "I dunno, I never met the chick." >> >> Ok, I give up - where is your sig quote from? > >According to Andrew Marr, it was Keith Richards response when asked how >he felt about the death of ex-princess Diana. Fantastic! I've not yet watched the last episode of his history. >Adopted due to the continual shite like this on the news at the moment: > >http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=7114&&&edition=1&ttl=200708 12085555 Ye f.cking gods. SignatureChamp ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle To email me, neal at my domain should work. >> > Do any of the cards take the MPEG stream from Freeview and just >> > dump it straight onto the hardrive? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > You might also want to demux the channels to save space. Any particular cards you'd recommend for such things? > Any particular cards you'd recommend for such things? Not really - I wouldn't really know what sort of DVB-? card you needed for a start, I'd guess some kind of DVB-T... There's loads of info on the web for this sort of thing. Signature"I dunno, I never met the chick." > I've got a Duron 1.3 with 768megs of ram and an old Voodoo 3 graphics > card. If I shove a tuner card in it, am I going to be able to get it > working as a media center type thing, and still have it working normally > for basic web browsing / torrent grabbing work? It'll not be my main PC, > but it'll need to be tolerably quick. Are there any specific bits of > hardware that help with this sort of work? If it's any help, I'm using a Hauppauge WinTV card (analogue) I got used for 10 quid with my old 500MHz, 392MB Athlon and it plays fine provided i dont' do many other things at the same time. I can't tel you what recording is like as I haven't tried it. Sound is a bit of a pain, as I'm using USB speakers and the TV-card won't speak to them (geddit?....) Geo |
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