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Motorcycle Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / August 2007Can't ride a bike
I've just come back from my GP's surgery who has prescribed a new motorcycle for me. A taller one with a more upright posture. I've had a history of back pain throughout my life and have sympathy with anyone else who suffers with it. Mine is mild compared to most others at this stage but still gives me cause for concern. I managed to do my back in on Saturday and I visited a friend on Sunday but the journey home was nothing but agony. So much so that I ended up getting off the bike half way home and calling a taxi to get me the rest of the way and a kind neighbour volunteered to pick the bike up for me later on in the day and kindly delivered it back in the evening. Today my doctor filled out a form for NHS physiotherapy. I assume that NHS Trusts differ depending on where one is in the cun'ree but from the experience of other do you know how long this usually takes to come through and how long a physiotherapy session lasts for and are they any good? My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (£100 a year excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any appointment to come through I'd probably be better off going privately, I think... Does anyone know which is likely to be swifter or better?  Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road > I've just come back from my GP's surgery who has prescribed a new > motorcycle for me. A taller one with a more upright posture. You did sort of "lay" on your Bandit last time I saw you. > I've had a history of back pain throughout my life and have sympathy > with anyone else who suffers with it. Mine is mild compared to most [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > bike up for me later on in the day and kindly delivered it back in the > evening. Good neighbours and I feel for you regarding BP. I've not had it badly, badly but bad enough to take time off work. > Today my doctor filled out a form for NHS physiotherapy. I assume > that NHS Trusts differ depending on where one is in the cun'ree but > from the experience of other do you know how long this usually takes > to come through and how long a physiotherapy session lasts for and are > they any good? I got some paid for by work. Six sessions of half an hour each. It took about two weeks from them telling me I was getting it to my first appointment so quite quickly. Thesessions were good and after the first two I felt about an inch taller! > My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (£100 a year > excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any > appointment to come through I'd probably be better off going > privately, I think... Does anyone know which is likely to be swifter > or better? I went private but that was paid for by my employer, too. If you're entitled to it, claim it. It's money gone to waste otherwise and while you're at it, get some massages booked in - I missed the boat on that one. Go for it. > My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (œ100 a year > excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any > appointment to come through I'd probably be better off going > privately, I think... Does anyone know which is likely to be swifter > or better? My experience has been NHS only, and they don't seem to know what to do with backs. It's either been "take pain killers and rest", or "take pain killers and keep mobile". Out of desperation I tried acupuncture with a local Chinese dude following a recommendation from a friend. A few sessions had me sorted right out. This was muscular issues rather than a trapped nerve. YMMV. >> My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (œ100 a year >> excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > This was muscular issues rather than a trapped nerve. YMMV. AOL on that one.... Deep tissue massage after heat, needles and lots of twisting around and crackling noises and right as rain now > I've just come back from my GP's surgery who has prescribed a new > motorcycle for me. A taller one with a more upright posture. ...may put excess pressure through your back. I can ride triallies, sports bikes, UJMs with no back issues at all. I cannot ride custom type bikes where I can't take some weight through my feet. > I've had a history of back pain throughout my life and have sympathy > with anyone else who suffers with it. Mine is mild compared to most > others at this stage but still gives me cause for concern. Lose weight. It helps. > I managed to do my back in on Saturday and I visited a friend on > Sunday but the journey home was nothing but agony. So much so that I > ended up getting off the bike half way home and calling a taxi to get > me the rest of the way and a kind neighbour volunteered to pick the > bike up for me later on in the day and kindly delivered it back in the > evening. Nice neighbour. > Today my doctor filled out a form for NHS physiotherapy. I assume > that NHS Trusts differ depending on where one is in the cun'ree but > from the experience of other do you know how long this usually takes > to come through and how long a physiotherapy session lasts for and are > they any good? IME, they are stressed out, short staffed and underfunded. My PT for my back was a waste of time, as was the PT for my shoulder. The impression I got was the staff really wanted to do a good job but were constrained otherwise. My last PT session was for damaged cruciates. I was given a leaflet and told to get on with it. > My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (£100 a year > excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any > appointment to come through I'd probably be better off going > privately, I think... Does anyone know which is likely to be swifter > or better? Go private if you can. See an osteopath. They are scary people but can make a real difference. Lose weight and go swimming. HTH SignatureBandit 650 GHPOTHUF #30 BGN wibbled: > I've just come back from my GP's surgery who has prescribed a new > motorcycle for me. A taller one with a more upright posture. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > privately, I think... Does anyone know which is likely to be swifter > or better? Shame you're not local to MK - the Blackberry Clinic comes highly recommended from the Buzby household. SignatureBuzby There's nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot > Today my doctor filled out a form for NHS physiotherapy. I assume > that NHS Trusts differ depending on where one is in the cun'ree but > from the experience of other do you know how long this usually takes > to come through and how long a physiotherapy session lasts for and are > they any good? Zhan Zhuang. I'd be surprised if you didn't notice a massive improvement after a few weeks of practice. See http://www.lamassociation.org/ or google it for more info. I think it's amazing, but it's probably not for everyone. SignatureSlowerThanYou >My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (£100 a year >excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any >appointment to come through I'd probably be better off going >privately, I think... Does anyone know which is likely to be swifter >or better? I can guarantee private will be significantly quicker. I phoned Bupa who said phone Bedford Physiotherapy Centre. did so, was seen the same day. and i'm orf there now :) SignatureAdie (replace spam with nickname to reply) UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ keeper of the ukrm faq for my sins YZF-R1: ZX9R E1 MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22 BOMB#11 >>My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (£100 a year >>excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I can guarantee private will be significantly quicker. And better. NHS ones are still predicated on the idea of getting you back on your feet, rather than getting you back to 100% of where you should be. >I phoned Bupa who said phone Bedford Physiotherapy Centre. > >did so, was seen the same day. > >and i'm orf there now :) What's wrong wiv ya then? Signature_______ .'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ DS#8 BOTAFOT#3 SbS#2 UKRMMA#13 DFV#8 SKA#2 IBB#10 `\\ | //' `\|/` ` >>>My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (£100 a year >>>excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >back on your feet, rather than getting you back to 100% of where you >should be. I'm now at 95% and have officially been signed off. >>I phoned Bupa who said phone Bedford Physiotherapy Centre. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >What's wrong wiv ya then? I slept with my arm hanging at 90 degrees to my body hanging over the edge of the bed. Damaged a muscle in the rotator cuff. anyone who'd seen me at Dieppe or on the IOM would have noticed I was still hurty with diclofenac. SignatureAdie (replace spam with nickname to reply) UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ keeper of the ukrm faq for my sins YZF-R1: ZX9R E1 MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22 BOMB#11 > I've just come back from my GP's surgery who has prescribed a new > motorcycle for me. A taller one with a more upright posture. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > privately, I think... Does anyone know which is likely to be swifter > or better? Chiropractor is the correct answer IF you can find a decent one. NHS and physio appts take forever, so go private and bugger the excess (after you're "cured" of course). SignatureBeav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 . > I've just come back from my GP's surgery who has prescribed a new > motorcycle for me. A taller one with a more upright posture. > > I've had a history of back pain throughout my life and have sympathy > with anyone else who suffers with it. Mine is mild compared to most > others at this stage but still gives me cause for concern. What is the root of the problem? My bp is due to a dodgy shaped disc and changing from car to bike actually sorted the problem out to an extent (GS500 then ZR-7) (now the problem I have is cock-see-dynamo or summat - the bottom of my spine hurts). I'd have thought the Bandit was a reasonably upright bike if you ride it in a normal sort of stylee. It may not be the bike that's the problem. > Today my doctor filled out a form for NHS physiotherapy. I assume > that NHS Trusts differ depending on where one is in the cun'ree but > from the experience of other do you know how long this usually takes > to come through and how long a physiotherapy session lasts for and are > they any good? About a couple of weeks before I saw the physio associated with my doctor's surgery. Didn't find her very helpful at all. Basically she just told me to do the exercises in McSomebody's "Treat Your Own Back." I can't help thinking that your £100 excess would be money well spent. BGN <nickmooney@spamcop.net> wrote in message <l901c3p0c6frdr1bqj9riccgc5r6b8lf71@4ax.com>: >My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (£100 a year >excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any >appointment to come through I'd probably be better off going >privately, I think... Does anyone know which is likely to be swifter >or better? Private. I've used them twice, once for me, once for my son. In both cases they saw me when I wanted to be seen and treated me when I needed to be treated. Get back to your GP and get a referal to a private doctor... who will most likely be the same doctor that would treat you on the NHS. In the case of my son we had a meeting with the consultant at the local NHS hospital and agreed that the operation would be more 'convenient' if it was done at the local BUPA hospital.. by the consultant that we were seeing on the NHS; makes no sense at all. SignatureK75RT, K1100LT, ZXR750H1, 5TA. "It's me against the wheel" wrote: > BGN <nickmooney@spamcop.net> wrote in message > <l901c3p0c6frdr1bqj9riccgc5r6b8lf71@4ax.com>: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Get back to your GP and get a referal to a private doctor... who will > most likely be the same doctor that would treat you on the NHS. I agree with this. Private. When I had my little medical hiccup it was the difference between seeing somebody next week, and up to 3 months wait. The whole private thing was slick and effortless other than me making a couple of calls to the insuarer, and having to chase the GP for a referral. My Mum is currently enjoying the joys of NHS waiting lists, it would seem. It's been almost 3 months between appointments with the consultant after their initial meeting and "trying some pills", the reality is she's going to need hip and knee replacements all round due to osteoarthritis. That said it's also her fault for putting up with pain for several years, rather than seeking medical attention before it became unmanagable. > In the case of my son we had a meeting with the consultant at the local > NHS hospital and agreed that the operation would be more 'convenient' if > it was done at the local BUPA hospital.. by the consultant that we were > seeing on the NHS; makes no sense at all. It does to his wallet, I'd say. SignatureMorini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport x2 | 900SSD | K1100LT Laverda SF2 BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote in message <87ps1qisuf.fsf@odie.internal.unix-consult.com>: >> In the case of my son we had a meeting with the consultant at the local >> NHS hospital and agreed that the operation would be more 'convenient' if >> it was done at the local BUPA hospital.. by the consultant that we were >> seeing on the NHS; makes no sense at all. > >It does to his wallet, I'd say. Thank you Mr Murray. SignatureK75RT, K1100LT, ZXR750H1, 5TA. "It's me against the wheel" > I've just come back from my GP's surgery who has prescribed a new > motorcycle for me. A taller one with a more upright posture. Which of the two - you don't really need both unless you're also suffering from knee trouble IMHO? You're welcome to drop by and try out the K1100LT for size (and the Milwaukee Tractor if I get my arse in gear and actually buy it). It has a surprisingly upright seating position which certainly helps my back, although it may be a bit small for you. > I managed to do my back in on Saturday and I visited a friend on > Sunday but the journey home was nothing but agony. Does sound familiar, this. > My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (£100 a year > excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any > appointment to come through I'd probably be better off going > privately, I think... Does anyone know which is likely to be swifter > or better? Private - when I acquired my nerve injury, my GP went something like "it'll take about six months to see a specialist" (this is for an injury that could easily have left me unable to work for a long time, if not forever) until I mentioned the word "private". AFAIR it took something like two or three weeks to get an appointment instead. SignatureMorini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport x2 | 900SSD | K1100LT Laverda SF2 BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar >> I've just come back from my GP's surgery who has prescribed a new >> motorcycle for me. A taller one with a more upright posture. > >Which of the two - you don't really need both unless you're also >suffering from knee trouble IMHO? He rides a motorcycle and asked what I currently dwell on and after I told him he suggested that something higher up with a more upright seating position would be better on my back in the long term. I don't suppose it's rocket science and something that I knew I needed already. Thankfully I'll be geting a lump of pennies hitting my bank account within the next 4 or 5 weeks which will assist no end with a new potential purchase. >You're welcome to drop by and try out the K1100LT for size (and the >Milwaukee Tractor if I get my arse in gear and actually buy it). It has >a surprisingly upright seating position which certainly helps my back, >although it may be a bit small for you. I've just looked at some photos on t'interweb and the K1100LT looks similar to Scraggy's machine which I've not only sat on but also dropped the Bandit on before. It looks okay but I don't think it looks like a me-bike. If our paths cross anytime in the near future and the offer is still open I'd certainly have a go though. >> My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (£100 a year >> excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >forever) until I mentioned the word "private". AFAIR it took something >like two or three weeks to get an appointment instead. Thanks for all of the suggestions everyone has given. I phoned the GP's surgery back yesterday and one of the nurses called me at work today to clarify my position. Evidently they have two ladies who do this work privately and she's given them my number to make contact in the next few days. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road >>You're welcome to drop by and try out the K1100LT for size (and the >>Milwaukee Tractor if I get my arse in gear and actually buy it). It has [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > looks like a me-bike. If our paths cross anytime in the near future > and the offer is still open I'd certainly have a go though. Sure - the reason why I suggested it is that it's surprisingly tall for a tourer and at least should meet your requirements in that respect. So far there's no time limit on the offer as I'm not planning to sell that bike anytime soon.... SignatureMorini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport x2 | 900SSD | K1100LT Laverda SF2 BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar >>> I've just come back from my GP's surgery who has prescribed a new >>> motorcycle for me. A taller one with a more upright posture. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > account within the next 4 or 5 weeks which will assist no end with a > new potential purchase. 250154751347 Signatureplatypus somewhere to go for the night > My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (£100 a year > excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any > appointment to come through I'd probably be better off going > privately, I think... Does anyone know which is likely to be swifter > or better? Private if you can I reckon. With me, the doc said it was sciatica (and I have all the classic symptoms, tbh) but the chiro said muscular lower back pain. Eight half-hour sessions with the chiro made no difference at all (this included some acupuncture) and I had to pay myself as the problem was diagnosed by my GP before I joined my current employer and went into their BUPA scheme. I will try doing some Pilates next, just to try to manage it better. Luckily it only flares up a couple of times a year and I can generally get by on a low dosage of Ibuprofen. SignatureChris >> My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (£100 a year >> excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Luckily it only flares up a couple of times a year and I can generally > get by on a low dosage of Ibuprofen. I have a very good physio that deals with my sciatica. Anywhere near Chelmsford? SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 156 TS 166 V6 2.5 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk > I have a very good physio that deals with my sciatica. Anywhere near > Chelmsford? Not really, no.[0] And as I said, the chiro reckons it isn't sciatica[1] but I guess a second[2] opinion wouldn't go amiss. [0] Harrow, so not a million miles away but not close either. [1]On the first session, he poked and prodded and said: "I'm going to press here, tell me if it hurts". Nothing. Much. He said: "If you had sciatica, I should be pulling you off the ceiling right now". [3] Well, third inc. my GP. SignatureChris >> I have a very good physio that deals with my sciatica. Anywhere near >> Chelmsford? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > [0] Harrow, so not a million miles away but not close either. Indeed not. > [1]On the first session, he poked and prodded and said: "I'm going to > press here, tell me if it hurts". Nothing. Much. He said: "If you > had sciatica, I should be pulling you off the ceiling right now". Well, it does hurt when pressed IME. SignatureCatman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 156 TS 166 V6 2.5 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk >> I have a very good physio that deals with my sciatica. Anywhere near >> Chelmsford? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >had sciatica, I should be pulling you off the ceiling right now". >[3] Well, third inc. my GP. I (& Bear) can recommend a very good chiropractor in Harrow ish area. if you need the details shout. SignatureAdie (replace spam with nickname to reply) UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ keeper of the ukrm faq for my sins YZF-R1: ZX9R E1 MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22 BOMB#11 > >> I have a very good physio that deals with my sciatica. Anywhere near > >> Chelmsford? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I (& Bear) can recommend a very good chiropractor in Harrow ish area. Indeedy. Actually, I need to go see him myself shortly - back's been playing up something fierce of late. SignatureBear > I (& Bear) can recommend a very good chiropractor in Harrow ish area. > if you need the details shout. emailed. SignatureChris >> I (& Bear) can recommend a very good chiropractor in Harrow ish area. >> if you need the details shout. > >emailed. and replied (as you know). I'd highly recommend Dev as he sorted my back and I know Bear thinks he's wonderful. SignatureAdie (replace spam with nickname to reply) UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ keeper of the ukrm faq for my sins YZF-R1: ZX9R E1 MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22 BOMB#11 >My Beloved Employer provide private medical cover for me (£100 a year >excess) so if it's going to take more than a week or two for any >appointment to come through I'd probably be better off going >privately, I think... Does anyone know which is likely to be swifter >or better? Thanks to everyone who replied. The longest wait for getting the surgery to get a memo to my GP to get a private referral as he was off for a couple of days. As soon as that happened I quickly phoned Axa/PPP and it was all okayed right away. My first session is on Tuesday. Signature-- Nick ICQ: 9235201 EMAIL & MSN: nickmooney@spamcop.net -- LOTR#4 SKOGA#8 DS#7 BOTAFOT#159 BOTM#2 FBOTY#06 PM#11 -- GSF600n www.bgn.me.uk - Drive until you lose the road |
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