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Timo Geusch - 17 Aug 2007 09:25 GMT
Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?

Just wondering as there's one on fleabay which covers the range I
need...

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Rich B - 17 Aug 2007 09:27 GMT
Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, Timo Geusch typed:
> Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
>
> Just wondering as there's one on fleabay which covers the range I
> need...

Had one a long time ago.  It didn't let me down, so I'd say they were OK

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TOG@toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com, - 17 Aug 2007 10:28 GMT
On 17 Aug, 10:25, "Timo Geusch" <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
wrote:
> Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
>
> Just wondering as there's one on fleabay which covers the range I
> need...

I've actually got one: a click-stop one. Had it for nearly 30 years,
and it seems to work fine, so I'd recommend the brand, yes.
Timo Geusch - 17 Aug 2007 10:44 GMT
> On 17 Aug, 10:25, "Timo Geusch" <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I've actually got one: a click-stop one. Had it for nearly 30 years,
> and it seems to work fine, so I'd recommend the brand, yes.

Unfortunately this one seem to be a preset one so it's of no use to me.
Guess I'll make use of that teng.co.uk link Gyp mention earlier and add
a torque wrench to the pile.

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Grimly Curmudgeon - 17 Aug 2007 11:15 GMT
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Timo Geusch"
<tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> saying something like:

>Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?

They've been around for years, not heard anything bad about them. Istr
Norbar are (or used to be) the ones with a bendy bar and a quadrant
(actually much less than a quadrant - a bi-octant?) dial on them with a
pointer anchored to the head.
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Timo Geusch - 17 Aug 2007 11:29 GMT
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Timo Geusch"
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> (actually much less than a quadrant - a bi-octant?) dial on them with
> a pointer anchored to the head.

Well, this one was a "regular" torque wrench but as mentioned elsewhere
in this thread, it's a preset one so of no use to me.

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Grimly Curmudgeon - 17 Aug 2007 11:42 GMT
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Timo Geusch"
<tnewsSPAMMENOT@unixconsult.co.uk> saying something like:

>> They've been around for years, not heard anything bad about them. Istr
>> Norbar are (or used to be) the ones with a bendy bar and a quadrant
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Well, this one was a "regular" torque wrench but as mentioned elsewhere
>in this thread, it's a preset one so of no use to me.

Yeah, just had a look at the likely ones on ebay and it seems to be a
production one for no tampering.

On a related note, I've had a look at an old Snap-On one I picked up for
peanuts at an autojumble years ago - a TQ50A, 3/8 drive 0-600lb/in,
stamped 20Feb 1943, probably used for assembly work in WW2.
f.ck me, parts are still available.
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/parts/pro_det.asp?Item_id=41777&group_id=10353
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Timo Geusch - 17 Aug 2007 14:14 GMT
> On a related note, I've had a look at an old Snap-On one I picked up
> for peanuts at an autojumble years ago - a TQ50A, 3/8 drive
> 0-600lb/in, stamped 20Feb 1943, probably used for assembly work in
> WW2.  f.ck me, parts are still available.
> http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/parts/pro_det.asp?Item_id=41777&group_i
> d=10353

Blimey, they *do* take their lifetime warranty seriously.

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steveloukes@hotmail.com - 17 Aug 2007 11:50 GMT
On 17 Aug, 11:29, "Timo Geusch" <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
wrote:
> Well, this one was a "regular" torque wrench but as mentioned elsewhere
> in this thread, it's a preset one so of no use to me.
I've a 5 -40 lb 3/8 drive one you can borrow if its any use.
Steve
TOG@toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com, - 17 Aug 2007 14:15 GMT
On 17 Aug, 12:29, "Timo Geusch" <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
wrote:
> > We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> > drugs began to take hold. I remember "Timo Geusch"
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Well, this one was a "regular" torque wrench but as mentioned elsewhere
> in this thread, it's a preset one so of no use to me.

What does 'preset' mean, exactly. I mean, mine's preset in that you
set the desired torque via the big adjuster, and go from there. Why
not post the auction details?
Timo Geusch - 17 Aug 2007 15:17 GMT
> On 17 Aug, 12:29, "Timo Geusch" <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> set the desired torque via the big adjuster, and go from there. Why
> not post the auction details?

Set the torque once and then you're stuffed. They're usually intended
for production line use.

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wessie - 17 Aug 2007 22:49 GMT
> Set the torque once and then you're stuffed. They're usually intended
> for production line use.

They are normally adjustable, within a small range, for calibration
purposes. A set once device would have to be disposable as it would
inevitably go out of spec.

Obviously, in a production environment, the mechanism would need to be
tamperproof. Any adjustment would require the use of a special tool and a
calibrated gauge.

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TOG@toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com, - 17 Aug 2007 14:13 GMT
On 17 Aug, 12:15, Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REM...@REMOVEgmail.com>
wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Timo Geusch"
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> (actually much less than a quadrant - a bi-octant?) dial on them with a
> pointer anchored to the head.

Er, check my posting. Mine's a properly adjustable-click-stop one, not
one of those glorified spring balances.
Eiron - 17 Aug 2007 14:18 GMT
TOG@toil wrote:
> On 17 Aug, 12:15, Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REM...@REMOVEgmail.com>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Er, check my posting. Mine's a properly adjustable-click-stop one, not
> one of those glorified spring balances.

They are very useful. Wind the shaft out to minimum torque and you have
the longest bar in your toolkit for undoing really tight nuts. :-)

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Badger - 17 Aug 2007 11:41 GMT
> Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
>
> Just wondering as there's one on fleabay which covers the range I
> need...

I have one at the bottom of my toolbox, which I've not used in *years*.
 I just tried adjusting it, but it seems f.cked.

I'll bring it tomorrow if you want to see if you can do anything with it.

Oh hang on, this is you we're talking about....

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Timo Geusch - 17 Aug 2007 11:44 GMT
> > Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I'll bring it tomorrow if you want to see if you can do anything with
> it.

Only if it's a low range (5-25 Nm or somesuch) one. I've got a regular
one but I finally gave up and decided to get a low range one as well.

> Oh hang on, this is you we're talking about....

Hrmpf. You're supposed to insult me *after* picking up the monitor...

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DogBreath - 17 Aug 2007 18:55 GMT
> Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
>
> Just wondering as there's one on fleabay which covers the range I
> need...

A mate of mine calibrates torque wrenches (and other stuff) for a living.
I asked him which were the best torque wrenches.
He said "Norbar"
So I got one.
Dentist - 17 Aug 2007 19:20 GMT
DogBreath <dogbreath12@gmail.com> wrote;
>A mate of mine calibrates torque wrenches (and other stuff) for a
>living. I asked him which were the best torque wrenches.
>He said "Norbar"

I used to do the same, still have the kit, and have to agree. Norbar
were always very tight to spec.
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Timo Geusch - 17 Aug 2007 19:51 GMT
> > Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> He said "Norbar"
> So I got one.

Well, I'll keep an eye out for a non-preset one then.

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DogBreath - 18 Aug 2007 08:38 GMT
>> > Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Well, I'll keep an eye out for a non-preset one then.

Expect to pay about 80 quid for a brand new on one fleabay.
Well worth the money.
Dan L - 17 Aug 2007 20:14 GMT
> Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
>
> Just wondering as there's one on fleabay which covers the range I
> need...

They are built in Banbury, sold worldwide to the trade and a mate of
mine is their sales manager.

Oh, and I didn't win their aircon maintenance contract last year but my
mate did.

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Pip Luscher - 17 Aug 2007 23:00 GMT
>Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
>
>Just wondering as there's one on fleabay which covers the range I
>need...

My low-range one is a Norbar. Bloody expensive but seems fine after
somewhere betwen five and ten years. Never had it calibrated though.

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DogBreath - 18 Aug 2007 08:36 GMT
>>Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> My low-range one is a Norbar. Bloody expensive but seems fine after
> somewhere betwen five and ten years. Never had it calibrated though.

According to my mate, it won't need it.
Which is why he recommended them.
mb - 18 Aug 2007 09:13 GMT
> > > Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> According to my mate, it won't need it.
> Which is why he recommended them.

That's nice, 'cos I've got two :)

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DogBreath - 18 Aug 2007 09:16 GMT
>> > > Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
>> > >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> That's nice, 'cos I've got two :)

That's nice for you!
Just remember: Two's company, Three's a deformity...
;-)
Eiron - 18 Aug 2007 09:24 GMT
>>>> Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> That's nice, 'cos I've got two :)

So where can I get a Norbar?
Halfords? Machine Mart?

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Pip Luscher - 18 Aug 2007 10:08 GMT
>So where can I get a Norbar?
>Halfords? Machine Mart?

I bought mine from a local 'proper' hardware shop.

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DogBreath - 18 Aug 2007 16:13 GMT
>>>>> Has anybody heard of 'Norbar' torque wrenches? Worth having?
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> So where can I get a Norbar?
> Halfords? Machine Mart?

Sometimes e-bay can be your friend...
Item number: 160130113391

D
wessie - 18 Aug 2007 16:29 GMT
"DogBreath" <dogbreath12@gmail.com> wrote in news:9d-
dnZbCjZADkVrbnZ2dnUVZ8vWdnZ2d@bt.com:

> Sometimes e-bay can be your friend...
> Item number: 160130113391

not the range Timo wants though. Do keep up...

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Pip Luscher - 18 Aug 2007 19:43 GMT
>"DogBreath" <dogbreath12@gmail.com> wrote in news:9d-
>dnZbCjZADkVrbnZ2dnUVZ8vWdnZ2d@bt.com:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>not the range Timo wants though. Do keep up...

Yebbut it wasn't Timo asking in this instance.

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mb - 18 Aug 2007 22:23 GMT
> > That's nice, 'cos I've got two :)
>
> So where can I get a Norbar?
> Halfords? Machine Mart?

The little tool shop down Lincoln road, I thought everybody knew that
[1].

Ebay, Amazon (!), http://www.tooled-up.com/static/Nor1.asp

[1] Peterborough, though it's prolly closed down by now.

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