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Drew.H - 21 Aug 2007 20:50 GMT Took the Blackbird for the new tyres. Bald tyre on lose chippings was interesting.
Mechanic at garage reverses newish Merc 4x4 into the secretaries spotless Megan[1]. I guess he'll be drinking just water for the next few weeks.
Set off back home, these Blackbirds don't half pick up speed fast and sooooo smooth.
<prediction>I'm going to lose my licence</p> <reality>I'm going to lose my life</r>
There is a knocking coming from the front, I stop and investigate. A f.cking bolt missing from my caliper. Phone garage who suggest I get back there quick, not with only one bolt in my brake I don't. Mechanic came out, said thank God it wasn't the side he did, took the other 'finger tight' bolt and went back to garage to get another one.
Can someone please recommend a GOOD garage in south Cumbria, before I die.
[1] You should have seen how fast they dived for the t-cut. I guess the Merc owner was expected back soon.
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Bear - 21 Aug 2007 21:40 GMT > Took the Blackbird for the new tyres. Bald tyre on lose chippings was > interesting. Whereas a new tyre on loose chippings would have been fine, right?
> There is a knocking coming from the front, I stop and investigate. A > f.cking bolt missing from my caliper. Phone garage who suggest I get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Can someone please recommend a GOOD garage in south Cumbria, before I > die. Move closer to civilisation.
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Drew.H - 21 Aug 2007 23:47 GMT >> Took the Blackbird for the new tyres. Bald tyre on lose chippings was >> interesting. > >Whereas a new tyre on loose chippings would have been fine, right? Actually yes. Even though the bike was still slipping on the chippings on the bends, I felt more in control.
>> There is a knocking coming from the front, I stop and investigate. A >> f.cking bolt missing from my caliper. Phone garage who suggest I get [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Move closer to civilisation. But then I'd get my bike nicked.
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Bear - 22 Aug 2007 00:05 GMT > >> Took the Blackbird for the new tyres. Bald tyre on lose chippings was > >> interesting. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Actually yes. Even though the bike was still slipping on the > chippings on the bends, I felt more in control. Purely psychological.
If you're riding on marbles, it doesn't really matter what the middle layer is, if you follow me.
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Hog - 22 Aug 2007 07:01 GMT >>>> Took the Blackbird for the new tyres. Bald tyre on lose chippings >>>> was interesting. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > If you're riding on marbles, it doesn't really matter what the middle > layer is, if you follow me. Quite, on a dry road you don't need any tread on your tyres IYSWIM.
As for the loose calipers, I would have been straight round to my local Plod shop most likely. They need to be up on a charge for that. No *really*. No f.cking excuse whatsoever. A decent workshop will have the foreman do a quick sanity check before a bike leaves. Nothing else they could have done was more likely to injure you.
On the bright side, despite being a big girls blouse, you didn't bin it on the new tyres.
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The Older Gentleman - 22 Aug 2007 07:46 GMT > No > f.cking excuse whatsoever. Agreed.
>A decent workshop will have the foreman do a > quick sanity check before a bike leaves. And a road test.
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wessie - 22 Aug 2007 09:47 GMT >> No >> f.cking excuse whatsoever. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > And a road test. I've never had a vehicle road tested by a fitter after tyres were changed. Car or bike.
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darsy - 22 Aug 2007 09:49 GMT > >> No > >> f.cking excuse whatsoever. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I've never had a vehicle road tested by a fitter after tyres were changed. > Car or bike. me neither - in fact, it'd piss me off.
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The Older Gentleman - 22 Aug 2007 20:02 GMT > >> No > >> f.cking excuse whatsoever. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I've never had a vehicle road tested by a fitter after tyres were changed. > Car or bike. Ah. My fault for not reading the full OP.
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Beav - 22 Aug 2007 20:50 GMT >>> No >>> f.cking excuse whatsoever. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I've never had a vehicle road tested by a fitter after tyres were changed. > Car or bike. My missus whished that a road test was done on her Rover 3.5 a few years ago following a trye change. The rear nearside wheel came off on the A666 on her way to the shops after geting the tyres done.
The firm weren't impressed with the fitters when I rang them.
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Champ - 22 Aug 2007 09:59 GMT >>A decent workshop will have the foreman do a >> quick sanity check before a bike leaves. > >And a road test. Don't be daft - no one does a road test after fitting tyres. As Darsy says, I'd be pissed off if they did.
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Hog - 22 Aug 2007 10:11 GMT >>> A decent workshop will have the foreman do a >>> quick sanity check before a bike leaves. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Don't be daft - no one does a road test after fitting tyres. As Darsy > says, I'd be pissed off if they did. I missed this was just a tyre change? Even though, well I didn't suggest a test ride, the foreman in any decent tyre outlet also does a sanity check. My local goes round with a torque wrench.
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Andy Bonwick - 22 Aug 2007 18:53 GMT >>>> A decent workshop will have the foreman do a >>>> quick sanity check before a bike leaves. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >tyre outlet also does a sanity check. My local goes round with a torque >wrench. I've never had motorbike tyres fitted in a place where the foreman needs to check his fitters know what they're doing and if it ever happened I wouldn't go back.
Where we get our tyres fitted the lads that fit the bike tyres all ride bikes and either one or two of them race so I'm happy that they know what they're doing.
Hog - 22 Aug 2007 20:07 GMT >>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:46:39 +0100, >>> chateau.murray.takethisout@dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > ride bikes and either one or two of them race so I'm happy that they > know what they're doing. The local shop in Holywood does bikes and cars but I went to a bike only place near Leeds recently, again there were two of them and they did a quick sanity check of each other.
Of course it doesn't always work. The BBC R80 I sent out with a loose sump plug had been checked and ridden by the workshop manager. We always suspected a rogue stone came up at an amazing angle and loosened the plug ;o)
It's easy to get everything right when there is plenty of time. When the work is piling up or there is a queue of 3 bikes waiting for tyres some people do forget things.
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Drew.H - 22 Aug 2007 12:47 GMT > As for the loose calipers, I would have been straight round to my local > Plod shop most likely. They need to be up on a charge for that. No > *really*. No f.cking excuse whatsoever. A decent workshop will have the > foreman do a quick sanity check before a bike leaves. Nothing else they > could have done was more likely to injure you. Is it a Plod issue or Trading Standards? If the second bolt had dropped out the likelyhood of caliper interfering with the wheel was a destinct posibility. I was thinking last night about contacting trading standards, not only to report them, but for advice on a better garage.
> On the bright side, despite being a big girls blouse, you didn't bin it on > the new tyres. I've been called worse. The last time I bought tyres for the GSX1100F, it was pissing down. I didn't bin it then either.
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Hog - 22 Aug 2007 17:59 GMT >> As for the loose calipers, I would have been straight round to my >> local Plod shop most likely. They need to be up on a charge for [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > trading standards, not only to report them, but for advice on a > better garage. Well at the time I would have ridden straight to Plod. If they showed no interest I would have gone to TS.
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Champ - 22 Aug 2007 10:01 GMT >> >> Took the Blackbird for the new tyres. Bald tyre on lose chippings was >> >> interesting. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >If you're riding on marbles, it doesn't really matter what the middle >layer is, if you follow me. I essentially agree - the tread makes no difference at all.
However, a bald tyre implies that the profile has gone south too, which does alter the steering characteristics significantly, especially on a (relatively) long and heavy bike like a Blackbird. That effect, in combination with a loose surface, might explain the OP's comments.
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Drew.H - 22 Aug 2007 12:25 GMT >>> >> Took the Blackbird for the new tyres. Bald tyre on lose chippings was >>> >> interesting. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > That effect, in combination with a loose surface, might explain the > OP's comments. Yes. With the old tyres the handling was off, bars wanted to turn into corners more that needed, so took some work to keep bike on the line I wanted. Compensating for drift on the chippings was hard work. New tyres handled perfectly with little effort to get the bike to go where I wanted, even with some rear end drift.
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Champ - 22 Aug 2007 10:01 GMT >>> Can someone please recommend a GOOD garage in south Cumbria, before I >>> die. >> >>Move closer to civilisation. > >But then I'd get my bike nicked. You're definitely a glass-half-empty sort of chap, aren't you.
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PDannyD - 21 Aug 2007 21:50 GMT > Took the Blackbird for the new tyres. Bald tyre on lose chippings was > interesting.
> There is a knocking coming from the front, I stop and investigate. A > f.cking bolt missing from my caliper. Phone garage who suggest I get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Can someone please recommend a GOOD garage in south Cumbria, before I > die. GS Motorcycles in Kendal have always been good to me.
Drew.H - 21 Aug 2007 23:51 GMT >> Took the Blackbird for the new tyres. Bald tyre on lose chippings was >> interesting. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >GS Motorcycles in Kendal have always been good to me. Thanks, I'll give them a try next time. I may even pop in and see them when I'm that way on Saturday. I need some rear brake pads.
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