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Motorcycle Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / August 2007ADSL connection speeds and line 3. Update.
I recently posted asking about disconnecting line 3 from the phone wiring to reduce interference to my ADSL connection. Well, for the few sad people who are interested, I finished playing with my phone lines just now and I have an AMAZING increase in speed. Only time will tell if I stop losing the connections as I used to. I changed ISP to Sky from Andrews & Arnold. (Same money but now I have all 6 sky packages and ADSL2). This is not the reason for the betterment, because when I first conected to Sky a few days ago on the *unchanged* house wiring I was getting just 4400 kps. Then this morning I got some filters from ADSLnation in the post and set to with the little screwdriver. https://secure.adslnation.com/products/index.php I have an XTE 2005 faceplate filter that goes on the master socket. Any extensions from there have the ADSL signal filtered out, except for a single extension that goes up to the small bedroom with the signal included. There an XTF85 divides the ADSL from the phone and the Sky router is plugged in. From here all further extensions can be filtered from the signal too. This means no more dangly filters. Neat. No Line 3 (ringer) connections are made at all. Now I'm getting a DownStream Connection Speed of 10389 kbps. Whacking increase, necst' pas? Well worth it. > Now I'm getting a DownStream Connection Speed of 10389 kbps. > Whacking increase, necst' pas? Well worth it. *Nice* /rushes off to find screwdriver -- Antony >Now I'm getting a DownStream Connection Speed of 10389 kbps. Whacking >increase, necst' pas? Well worth it. Nice.  SignatureColin Irvine YZF1000R BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5 http://www.colinandpat.co.uk >No Line 3 (ringer) connections are made at all. So, I guess this means the phone doesn't ring... So how the feck do you know when someone is calling? SignatureFr. Jack The Un-Civil Servant We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Fr Jack <sp@m.com> saying something like: >>No Line 3 (ringer) connections are made at all. > >So, I guess this means the phone doesn't ring... So how the feck do >you know when someone is calling? Postcard through the door arranging a time to pick up the phone. SignatureDave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day. >>No Line 3 (ringer) connections are made at all. > >So, I guess this means the phone doesn't ring It does - each filter has its own ring capacitor on the phone outlet side. SignatureColin Irvine YZF1000R BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5 http://www.colinandpat.co.uk >>No Line 3 (ringer) connections are made at all. > >So, I guess this means the phone doesn't ring... So how the feck do >you know when someone is calling? Most modern phones don't rely on the power on line 3 any more. As long as they see a signal (or something. No, I don't know how exactly) on the line then they decide to ring, or play a tune, or warble... >>>No Line 3 (ringer) connections are made at all. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > long as they see a signal (or something. No, I don't know how exactly) > on the line then they decide to ring, or play a tune, or warble... The incoming line is only 2-wire. I thought the 3rd (internal only) wire was the "anti-tinkle circuit" that stopped an extension tinkle ringing as you dialled-out (pulse not mf) on the main phone or vice-versa. It's also used by old answerphones to stop them taking the call if it's picked-up by another extension. SignatureDave ex Motorcycle Maintenance Workshop http://tinyurl.com/4mhaw >>>>No Line 3 (ringer) connections are made at all. >>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >used by old answerphones to stop them taking the call if it's picked-up by >another extension. Well, I'm not a phone engineer, so I just looked it up out of curiousity. (I bet the formatting goes tits up!) "Internal Cabling Conn No. Usual Cable Colour Carries 1 N/A No connection 2 Blue with White Bands Speech and Ringing 3 Orange with White Bands Ringing 4 White with Orange Bands Not used but usually connected for neatness 5 White with Blue Bands Speech and Ringing 6 N/A No connection" "A common complaint is that one phone will work in an extension yet another plugged into the same socket won't. Usually this is because either the extension has been wired up with only terminals 2 and 5 connected or 3 has come adrift. Some phones originally designed for the overseas market will accept a ringing signal on 2 and 5 only (they usually only have those two wires connected) and so will work, others designed to use pin 3 for the ringing circuit won't ring but they will dial out and you can speak on them." http://www.telephonesuk.co.uk/technical_info.htm I'm bored now. It works for me. On 22 Aug, 14:05, Mike Barnard <m.barnard.trous...@thunderin.co.uk> wrote: > I recently posted asking about disconnecting line 3 from the phone > wiring to reduce interference to my ADSL connection. Well, for the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Now I'm getting a DownStream Connection Speed of 10389 kbps. Whacking > increase, necst' pas? Well worth it. A note of caution: it's fairly common when provisioning ADSL2+ to set customers on an artificially low line speed for a few days to allow the MSAN/DSLAM to collect some line stats, before finally setting a safe upper limit for you. You would need to disconnect or reset your modem to see the new higher speed. This might be what just happened ... >> Now I'm getting a DownStream Connection Speed of 10389 kbps. Whacking >> increase, necst' pas? Well worth it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >modem to see the new higher speed. This might be what just >happened ... I did wonder if something like this would happen, but the difference was immedieatly after the socket changes. I had disconnected the modem several times in the few days before while tidying cables, moving things around etc and it hadn't affected the speed. Whatever, I'm happy. :) Well, nearly. Just to be on topic: I STILL haven't got the bike back from Nash's workshops. Sob. >>> Now I'm getting a DownStream Connection Speed of 10389 kbps. Whacking >>> increase, necst' pas? Well worth it. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Whatever, I'm happy. :) Well, nearly. Just to be on topic: I STILL > haven't got the bike back from Nash's workshops. Sob. The interesting bit is that SKY is ADSL2. BT need to catch up. Signature-- ZX10R in the correct colour. Triumph Sprint ST for long two up touring. http://sportstourer.org > >>> Now I'm getting a DownStream Connection Speed of 10389 kbps. Whacking > >>> increase, necst' pas? Well worth it. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > The interesting bit is that SKY is ADSL2. BT need to catch up. Bit of a double-edged sword. It's great for people on short, high- quality copper loops, but the benefit is marginal for people on longer lines. There are, or certainly were 12 months ago, some fairly major compatibility issues between certain DSLAMs and certain brands of modem. Then there's the economics of ripping out all your old DSLAMs and replacing them. Much easier to do if you're building out from scratch as Sky/Easynet have been doing... >>>>> Now I'm getting a DownStream Connection Speed of 10389 kbps. Whacking >>>>> increase, necst' pas? Well worth it. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > and replacing them. Much easier to do if you're building out from > scratch as Sky/Easynet have been doing... I wonder if they are using Alcatel Isam's ? Signature-- ZX10R in the correct colour. Triumph Sprint ST for long two up touring. http://sportstourer.org |
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