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Motorcycle Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / August 2007Oh yes! Proposed new Science Museum
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/in_pictures_technology0 s_hidden_past/html/1.stm I had no idea that the SM was holding onto stuff like this. I've never seen a Connie in the flesh, for a start. > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/in_pictures_technology0 s_hidden_past/html/1.stm > > I had no idea that the SM was holding onto stuff like this. I've never > seen a Connie in the flesh, for a start. I'd love to be able to go and see that lot.  Signaturejeremy Sprint ST 955i TOG@toil wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/in_pictures_technology0 s_hidden_past/html/1.stm > > I had no idea that the SM was holding onto stuff like this. I've never > seen a Connie in the flesh, for a start. Excellent , that'll be well worth a look SignatureAlex "I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/in_pictures_t > echnology0s_hidden_past/html/1.stm > > I had no idea that the SM was holding onto stuff like this. I've never > seen a Connie in the flesh, for a start. I'm fairly sure you can go & view the stuff anyway - they certainly have open days for schools. The site's just up the road from SWMBO's cafe, & has been under development for a while now, so I'm pretty sure it's past the 'proposed' stage. That Connie's the one used by the Rolling Stones for their Australia tour in the early '70s. SignatureKrusty www.MuddyStuff.co.uk Off-Road Classifieds '02 MV Senna '03 Tigtona 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250 >I'm fairly sure you can go & view the stuff anyway - they certainly >have open days for schools. The site's just up the road from SWMBO's >cafe, & has been under development for a while now, so I'm pretty sure >it's past the 'proposed' stage. I've been round a couple of times on their public open days, mind you that was <cough> a while back SignatureGyp Change to dotcom to reply > I've been round a couple of times on their public open days, mind you > that was <cough> a while back I went around it about 15 years ago. Mindbogglingly brilliant. >That Connie's the one used by the Rolling Stones for their Australia >tour in the early '70s. What? I don't believe you. I once owned a Connie myself - it was a 1960 Royal Enfield and I can hardly imagine the Rolling Stones achieving that objective with it. SignatureRoger Hunt >> That Connie's the one used by the Rolling Stones for their Australia >> tour in the early '70s. >> > What? I don't believe you. > I once owned a Connie myself - it was a 1960 Royal Enfield and I can > hardly imagine the Rolling Stones achieving that objective with it. My mother owned a couple of Connies - good they were, whizzed about on a cushion of air. Signatureplatypus somewhere to go for the night >Roger Hunt wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >My mother owned a couple of Connies - good they were, whizzed about on a >cushion of air. It had fantastic torque - it was genuinely capable of pulling from below 20 mph to the Ton or over in Top (if the damn (famously fiddly patented RE scissors type) clutch on mine had not started slipping at 80-ish. Never sorted it). The crank/flywheel was an awesome one-piece forging weighing 24 pounds. SignatureRoger Hunt >> Roger Hunt wrote: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > The crank/flywheel was an awesome one-piece forging weighing 24 > pounds. When my mother died and we cleared the house, we took both of hers down the dump. They still worked, but nobody wanted them and we didn't reckon they were worth anything. Signatureplatypus somewhere to go for the night >Roger Hunt wrote: (Crankshafts) >When my mother died and we cleared the house, we took both of hers down the >dump. They still worked, but nobody wanted them and we didn't reckon they >were worth anything. Is a hard decision at the time perhaps, but once made, is easy. SignatureRoger Hunt >> Roger Hunt wrote: > (Crankshafts) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> > Is a hard decision at the time perhaps, but once made, is easy. It wasn't crankshafts, it was two complete, functioning Constellations. Signatureplatypus somewhere to go for the night >Roger Hunt wrote: >>> Roger Hunt wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >It wasn't crankshafts, it was two complete, functioning Constellations. What!!! I genuinely thought you were referring to vacuum cleaners! Blimey! Time for bed I think ... (mind you, the message is the same anyway.) SignatureRoger Hunt >> Roger Hunt wrote: >>>> Roger Hunt wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > What!!! I genuinely thought you were referring to vacuum cleaners! I was. Signatureplatypus somewhere to go for the night >Roger Hunt wrote: >>> Roger Hunt wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >I was. How dare you!!!! This'll be handbags at dawn before you know it. SignatureRoger Hunt >>> I once owned a Connie myself - it was a 1960 Royal Enfield and I can >>> hardly imagine the Rolling Stones achieving that objective with it. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >It had fantastic torque - it was genuinely capable of pulling from below >20 mph to the Ton or over in Top Why is that in anyway remarkable? I'm not sure I can think of a vehicle which can't do that. SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk > >It had fantastic torque - it was genuinely capable of pulling from below > >20 mph to the Ton or over in Top > > Why is that in anyway remarkable? > > I'm not sure I can think of a vehicle which can't do that. My Morris Traveller, for one. >On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:18:19 +0100, Roger Hunt ><nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >I'm not sure I can think of a vehicle which can't do that. er <cof>, we are talking ancient and over-stressed shite old British here, you know ... SignatureRoger Hunt TOG@toil wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/in_pictures_technology0 s_hidden_past/html/1.stm > > I had no idea that the SM was holding onto stuff like this. I've never > seen a Connie in the flesh, for a start. Talking about Ernie 1: "The machine, replaced in 1972, is cleaned with saliva and cotton buds to remove the residue left by cigarette smoke." ewwww. I hope you only have to lick each bud once. Signature/Simon >TOG@toil wrote: >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/in_pictures_technology0 s_hidden_past/html/1.stm [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >ewwww. I hope you only have to lick each bud once. Twice, Shirley? Two ends... Signature-Pip > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/in_pictures_technology0 s_hidden_past/html/1.stm > > I had no idea that the SM was holding onto stuff like this. I've never > seen a Connie in the flesh, for a start. I've been there to a model aircraft show a couple of years ago. It _pissed_ down and blew a few shop tents away. The shop I was working for had lots of customers in, they held onto the tent for us. :) Signature<insert money to play> TOG@toil wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/in_pictures_technology0 s_hidden_past/html/1.stm > > I had no idea that the SM was holding onto stuff like this. I've never > seen a Connie in the flesh, for a start. and in other news http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/6962448.stm <GULP> SignatureHog '03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Hog <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> typed >TOG@toil wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/6962448.stm Be interesting to see if he gets a heavier punishment than this guy: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/6960166.stm won't it? Prace bets now! SignatureWicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest" WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41 SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner", Honda GL1000K2 (Fallen apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big" Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando Kawasaki GTR1400 > Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Hog > <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> typed [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > won't it? Prace bets now! Well clearly people who steal 911's should be hanged.... slowly SignatureHog '03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/in_pictures_t > echnology0s_hidden_past/html/1.stm > > I had no idea that the SM was holding onto stuff like this. I've never > seen a Connie in the flesh, for a start. I keep on getting a 404 on the link. SignatureCab :^) - I'm dyslex-spic apparently GSX 1400 - Speedy Zimmerframe. UKRMMA#10 (KOTL), IbW#015, BoB#4, POTM#3, SKA#1 email addy : ukrm_dot_cab_at_rosbif_dot_org The gingeometer: http://www.rosbif.org/ukrm/gingeometer/ >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/in_pictures_t >> echnology0s_hidden_past/html/1.stm [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I keep on getting a 404 on the link. Signature-Pip >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/in_pictures_t >>> echnology0s_hidden_past/html/1.stm [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >>I keep on getting a 404 on the link. <explains> I had nothing interesting to say. Or clicked the wrong button. Or Agent is a double Agent working against me.. Signature-Pip >Agent is a double Agent working against me.. Put your hand in your pocket, after you have un-sown it, and buy a bit of TP. You kno it makes sense. SignatureRoger Hunt >>Agent is a double Agent working against me.. >> >Put your hand in your pocket, after you have un-sown it, and buy a bit >of TP. >You kno it makes sense. I'll have you know that there's nothing free about *my* copy of Agent. Signature-Pip >On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 22:37:40 +0100, Roger Hunt ><nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >I'll have you know that there's nothing free about *my* copy of Agent. Exactly. You mean you actually *paid* for it? Bloody 'ell. SignatureRoger Hunt >>On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 22:37:40 +0100, Roger Hunt >><nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >Exactly. You mean you actually *paid* for it? Bloody 'ell. <sniff> Signature-Pip >On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:37:40 +0100, Roger Hunt ><nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > ><sniff> Ah Bless ... Now come on, blow ... Now spit ...(rub (grimace) rub). Now that's better isn't it? SignatureRoger Hunt >>On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:37:40 +0100, Roger Hunt >><nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Ah Bless ... Now come on, blow ... >Now spit ...(rub (grimace) rub). Now that's better isn't it? I'm obviously going to have to practice my disdainful sniffs more. Signature-Pip >On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:11:51 +0100, Roger Hunt ><nospam@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >I'm obviously going to have to practice my disdainful sniffs more. (Rubs hands happily in anticipation) SignatureRoger Hunt > <explains> > > I had nothing interesting to say. Or clicked the wrong button. Or > Agent is a double Agent working against me.. Doesn't matter now. It works. Thanks for the kind thoughts. :-) SignatureCab :^) - I'm dyslex-spic apparently GSX 1400 - Speedy Zimmerframe. UKRMMA#10 (KOTL), IbW#015, BoB#4, POTM#3, SKA#1 email addy : ukrm_dot_cab_at_rosbif_dot_org The gingeometer: http://www.rosbif.org/ukrm/gingeometer/ We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember TOG@toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com, <chateau.murray@btinternet.com> saying something like: >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/in_pictures_technology0 s_hidden_past/html/1.stm Be good to see some of that stuff properly displayed. I knew they had piles of gear they simply don't have room for at the main venue, but I didn't know quite how much. >I had no idea that the SM was holding onto stuff like this. I've never >seen a Connie in the flesh, for a start. From the Stones to cows, all in a year. Ah well, Keith Richards probably dropped plenty of sh.t down the back of the seat before that. What intrigued me was the 1904 electric car - 50 miles on a charge. I'd expect a century of development to have made more difference than it has. SignatureDave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day. > We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the > drugs began to take hold. I remember [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > piles of gear they simply don't have room for at the main venue, but I > didn't know quite how much. Send the whole f.cking lot to the crusher, seriously, what is the point of hanging on to all this crap, none of it has any practical value whatsoever, a machine is either useful and used or not, there is no purpose whatsoever in having all that junk just for gawping at. I reckon it should be abolished as an unnecessary expense, dewy eyed, rose-tinted, preserved in aspic, kleptomaniac weirdos, 20th century trash, the whole country is going to the dogs. >> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >> drugs began to take hold. I remember [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > rose-tinted, preserved in aspic, kleptomaniac weirdos, 20th century > trash, the whole country is going to the dogs. Wouldn't worry, if the head honcho is still the guy who was head honcho at our place, the whole lot will go. During his time with us, he wiped out nearly 90 years worth of history (and more) on the sites that my organisation has. 'Kin travesty it was! <looks up info> Ahhh, he's now Director of the National Museum of Science & Industry - surprised they have any exhibits left! > What intrigued me was the 1904 electric car - 50 miles on a charge. I'd > expect a century of development to have made more difference than it > has. What sort of speed was that car capable of, when delivering a 50 mile range? Probably not too fast. How much did the car weigh with all those lead-acid batteries? Probably quite a lot. I'm not at all surprised that a slow heavy old electric car had a 50 mile range. The limiting factor was then, and still is now, battery energy density in Joules/kg. Now we have lighter and stronger materials for the car's structure and batteries are improved, so we have electric cars that aren't too heavy and have reasonably good range and performance. The tough problem then and now is how to charge the battery in a reasonable time-- when you fill up your car with petrol or diesel the rate of energy transfer is best measured in megawatts. The effects of that level of power consumption on the electric grid should be understood before people get too enthusiastic about the prospect of widespread electric car usage. Signature'01 SV650S '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13 OMF #7 > What sort of speed was that car capable of, when delivering a 50 mile > range? Probably not too fast. How much did the car weigh with all > those lead-acid batteries? Probably quite a lot. Believe it or not, electric cars were big news in the US at the turn of the century. Have a google. Quieter, smoother, more reliable than early IC engine powered cars. And nobody drove any great distance. The Model T changed all that. SignatureBMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 CB125 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells..... >> What sort of speed was that car capable of, when delivering a 50 mile >> range? Probably not too fast. How much did the car weigh with all >> those lead-acid batteries? Probably quite a lot. > > Believe it or not, electric cars were big news in the US at the turn of > the century. Have a google. No need, I am quite familiar with the early electrics as it happens. > Quieter, smoother, more reliable than early IC engine powered cars. And > nobody drove any great distance. Yep- not far and not fast, the roads were utter crap. > The Model T changed all that. True. Signature'01 SV650S '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13 OMF #7 >> What intrigued me was the 1904 electric car - 50 miles on a charge. I'd >> expect a century of development to have made more difference than it [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >understood before people get too enthusiastic about the prospect of >widespread electric car usage. Plaster the entire vehicle in solar collection systems. Maybe not enough for a car doing 500 miles a day every day carting some sales rep around the countryside but for all the ones parked in my street at 10 to 9 and 10 to three every day ample by any measure. Signaturesteve auvache A Bloo one with built in safety features >The tough problem then and now is how to charge the battery in a >reasonable time-- when you fill up your car with petrol or diesel the >rate of energy transfer is best measured in megawatts. The effects >of that level of power consumption on the electric grid should be >understood before people get too enthusiastic about the prospect of >widespread electric car usage. On my second visit to Zermatt in Switzerland, we took the electric bus to our appartment. The driver drove down to the bus depot, parked, hopped out, jumped on a fork lift, took off the battery pack that hung on the rear (the bus lifted noticeably), dropped it with practiced ease onto a charger and picked up another that was on an adjacent charger and hooked it onto the bus. Took only slightly longer than filling a car up. Signature-Pip On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 04:38:57 -0700, TOG@toil,chateau.murray@btinternet.com, <chateau.murray@btinternet.com> wrote: >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/in_pictures_technology0 s_hidden_past/html/1.stm > >I had no idea that the SM was holding onto stuff like this. I've never >seen a Connie in the flesh, for a start. Nor had I. I'd kind of assumed that this sort of thing woud go straight to the IWM. Nice to see that the SRN-1 still exists, too. I'd love to see that. Signature-Pip |
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