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Motorcycle Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / August 2007Pahnd Island beckons
Just in case anyone's interested, I'll be on the island from Wed to Sat, so should get both of Champ's races in. I know one or two others are there, and I'll be meeting up as and when, but if there's anyone else I don't know about going then feel free to get in touch (via Champ, Bonners, or Mike if you don't have a number for me). It'd be great to see whoever, IYSWIM. Oh, and I'm an IOM virgin - is there some sort of initiation ceremony? On a related note, why is booking flights so goddam difficult sometimes? It stretches credibility to believe that it's not possible for one booking site/agent to sort all my flights out. I could probably, maybe, have got the work travel agent to do it, but I doubt theyd have had an easier time of it. I finally had to book Basel-LCY on Swiss airmiles, Lcy-IOM-Liverpool on two separate bookings with EuroManx, then Liverpool-Basel with Easyjet. To even find these connections and confirm availability took several hours (literally) of googling and trying various sectors with up to about ten possible airlines, including trying routes via Dublin and Amsterdam, then even once I'd found them I had to go into the booking pages for all four segments virtually simultaneously to ensure I didn't book one only to find that one of the others was no longer available. To cap it all, both EasyJet and EuroManx charge extra for credit cards, so I was then juggling to find which of the (lower charged) debit ones would work on each site (UK one worked for EJ, French one for EuroManx) but still ended up paying 1x1.50 and 2x3.00 UKP for the privilege of booking. Grrrrrrr... Still, at least I was saved having to coordinate accomodation booking, as Neal's very kindly sorted me out in the same Homestay place as some of his other mates are staying. And in case you've not read his blog tonight, he turned in a fifth fastest in Junior practice this evening, with a rather creditable 114.3mph lap, and was the fastest 600 through the speed trap at 167.8mph, so is understandably quite happy tonight. Full story at http://blog.myspace.com/nealchampion  Signature_______ .'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ DS#8 BOTAFOT#3 SbS#2 UKRMMA#13 DFV#8 SKA#2 IBB#10 `\\ | //' `\|/` ` > Just in case anyone's interested, I'll be on the island from Wed to > Sat, so should get both of Champ's races in. I know one or two others [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > great to see whoever, IYSWIM. Oh, and I'm an IOM virgin - is there > some sort of initiation ceremony? <snip> > And in case you've not read his blog tonight, he turned in a fifth > fastest in Junior practice this evening, with a rather creditable > 114.3mph lap, and was the fastest 600 through the speed trap at > 167.8mph, so is understandably quite happy tonight. Full story athttp://blog.myspace.com/nealchampion Very respectable times Champ's putting in there. I didn't realise he's actually racing against Olie Linsdell, who I sometimes share paddock garage space with when I'm spannering for Danny Imberg[1]. Olie's dad Steve[2] was third in the Senior Classic on one of the fast Paton 500s that Champ mentions in his blog. Olie won the Newcomers C race on his FZR400 today, by 13 minutes - not 13 seconds - with a speed of 102.83mph, as opposed to his closest rival's 89.059mph. Champ is kicking Olie's arse in junior practise, by a full 4 minutes plus. I guess the ZX6R he's on must be lots quicker than Olie's Triumph 675 Challenge bike. [1] Who f.cking crashed heavily twice at Mallory's stupid new Gerards chicane this weekend. I have lots of bike fixing to do. [2] Steve and Carole Linsdell were my bosses when I was recently working part-time just up the road at Flitwick Motorcycles. -- Lozzo >Very respectable times Champ's putting in there. I didn't realise he's >actually racing against Olie Linsdell, who I sometimes share paddock [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >FZR400 today, by 13 minutes - not 13 seconds - with a speed of >102.83mph, as opposed to his closest rival's 89.059mph. Olli utterly destroyed the competition today. He beat a fair few 600s, on his 400, and they started in front of him. He's on for a podium, if not a win, in the 'main' ultra-lightweight (ie 400) race on Friday. >Champ is >kicking Olie's arse in junior practise, by a full 4 minutes plus. I >guess the ZX6R he's on must be lots quicker than Olie's Triumph 675 >Challenge bike. My bike appears to the be the fastest out there. And, without wishing to disrespect Ollie's amazing performance, riding a fast bike fast is harder than than riding a slower bike fast. >[2] Steve and Carole Linsdell were my bosses when I was recently >working part-time just up the road at Flitwick Motorcycles. I was stood at a stall in the gents today with Steve L and another chap who Steve was talking to. The Other Chap commented on Ollie's performance, and said "must be a chip off the old block", to which Steve replied "No, he's bloody winning". SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk > Oh, and I'm an IOM virgin - is there > some sort of initiation ceremony? Do a lap/ride bike fast, sit in pub drinking and talking bollocks. I think it's just general ceremony though. SignatureChristofire DIAABTCOD#1 DS#9 ZX-10R >> Oh, and I'm an IOM virgin - is there >> some sort of initiation ceremony? > >Do a lap/ride bike fast, sit in pub drinking and talking bollocks. I >think it's just general ceremony though. You have the right of it :-) SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk >> Oh, and I'm an IOM virgin - is there >> some sort of initiation ceremony? > >Do a lap/ride bike fast, Not this year, certainly. >sit in pub drinking and talking bollocks. Ahh, now that I'd be OK with. Then again, with Champ, Bonners, Mike and whoever else is around I might be struggling by comparison. >I think it's just general ceremony though. Heh. Signature_______ .'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ DS#8 BOTAFOT#3 SbS#2 UKRMMA#13 DFV#8 SKA#2 IBB#10 `\\ | //' `\|/` ` >>> Oh, and I'm an IOM virgin - is there >>> some sort of initiation ceremony? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Ahh, now that I'd be OK with. Then again, with Champ, Bonners, Mike > and whoever else is around I might be struggling by comparison. You could take your x-rays along and pass them around. That'd be kinda amusing. Signatureplatypus somewhere to go for the night >>>> Oh, and I'm an IOM virgin - is there >>>> some sort of initiation ceremony? >>> sit in pub drinking and talking bollocks. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >You could take your x-rays along and pass them around. That'd be kinda >amusing. I guess. I'm still nowhere near able to compete with Bonners on the 'overall total injury' score, although I might just trump him on 'most bones broken in one go' and possibly 'most internal organs damaged'. Signature_______ .'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ DS#8 BOTAFOT#3 SbS#2 UKRMMA#13 DFV#8 SKA#2 IBB#10 `\\ | //' `\|/` ` <SNIP, of Champ> > and was the fastest 600 through the speed trap at > 167.8mph ` 6 points and ?500 fine. ><SNIP, of Champ> > >> and was the fastest 600 through the speed trap at 167.8mph > >6 points and £500 fine. In a 30 limit? I was expecting jail time at least. SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk >> 6 points and £500 fine. > > In a 30 limit? I was expecting jail time at least. WLTM GBM with GSOH and own slop bucket. Anyway, your love-life aside, I've shivering with anti-whatsit ... how did you do today? SignatureAndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) Aprilia RSV-1000R, Kawasaki ZX-6R, Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, DS#5, COSOC# Suspended, KotTFSTR# The speccy Geordie twat. >>> 6 points and £500 fine. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Anyway, your love-life aside, I've shivering with anti-whatsit ... how did >you do today? Well, it's 7:30am on Wednesday, which is Junior Race day. Yesterday was Tuesday, and there was no racing or practice. Check www.iommgp.com around 3:30 for results. Or listen to manx radio via the interweb thingy for live commentary - the race starts at 1:15pm. Have to go now - am a bit pre-occupied. SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk >Well, it's 7:30am on Wednesday, which is Junior Race day. Yesterday >was Tuesday, and there was no racing or practice. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Have to go now - am a bit pre-occupied. Ah, the faint sound of retaining clips for the full-harness straining belts clipping into the floor-mounted eyebolts echoes distantly across the Irish Sea. SignaturePip: B12 >>Anyway, your love-life aside, I've shivering with anti-whatsit ... how did >>you do today? > > Well, it's 7:30am on Wednesday, which is Junior Race day. Yesterday > was Tuesday, and there was no racing or practice. Ah, I'd just finished reading your blog for 28th August, which said that tomorrow was race day, and then I'd checked the date, not noticing that it had slunk past midnight, so when I posted I thought you'd finished your first race. All this going fast on motorbikes just confuses me. Anyway, best of luck - even though you're not going to see this until after the event. SignatureAndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) Aprilia RSV-1000R, Kawasaki ZX-6R, Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, DS#5, COSOC# Suspended, KotTFSTR# The speccy Geordie twat. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Champ <news@champ.org.uk> saying something like: >Check www.iommgp.com around 3:30 for results. Or listen to manx radio >via the interweb thingy for live commentary - the race starts at >1:15pm. http://www.manxradio.com/ Listening to it now - they don't half play some old shite. SignatureDave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE@REMOVEgmail.com> saying something like: >We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >drugs began to take hold. I remember Champ <news@champ.org.uk> saying [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >http://www.manxradio.com/ >Listening to it now - they don't half play some old shite. Bad form and all, but I'm wondering why the fastest bloke in practice isn't allowed to go off first and the starting order being something like that down the field. Iow, why should the fastest bloke be held up by having to try and pass demonstrably slower riders? SignatureDave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day. > like that down the field. Iow, why should the fastest bloke be held up > by having to try and pass demonstrably slower riders? Its called "a race". That's the whole point. Which is a major peeve of mine about the blue flag system in F1 - part of the driver skillset is HOW TO PASS SLOWER CARS! Pah. Wasn't like that when I was younger. Phil. SignaturePhil Launchbury, IT PHB 'I'm training the bats that live in my cube to juggle mushrooms' > Pah. Wasn't like that when I was younger. Don't be such a f.cking Ogden, you miserable old sod. Signatureplatypus somewhere to go for the night >> Pah. Wasn't like that when I was younger. > > Don't be such a f.cking Ogden, you miserable old sod. Garn. <Sucks toothless gums> Phil. SignaturePhil Launchbury, IT PHB 'I'm training the bats that live in my cube to juggle mushrooms' We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "platypus" <monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> saying something like: >> Pah. Wasn't like that when I was younger. > >Don't be such a f.cking Ogden, you miserable old sod. He finished 9th! Got mentioned a lot as "having a good race indeed". SignatureDave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day. > We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the > drugs began to take hold. I remember "platypus" [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > He finished 9th! Got mentioned a lot as "having a good race indeed". Who, Phil or Ogden? Signatureplatypus somewhere to go for the night >> He finished 9th! Got mentioned a lot as "having a good race indeed". > > Who, Phil or Ogden? Last race I was in was the human race. Allegedly. <Ba-doom-tish!> Phil. SignaturePhil Launchbury, IT PHB 'I'm training the bats that live in my cube to juggle mushrooms' > > Pah. Wasn't like that when I was younger. > > Don't be such a f.cking Ogden, you miserable old sod. I still *am* younger. Mostly. Signatureogden sv650 - surprisingly quick for a girl's bike >> > Pah. Wasn't like that when I was younger. >> >> Don't be such a f.cking Ogden, you miserable old sod. > > I still *am* younger. Mostly. It's all a case of mind over matter. I don't mind and you don't matter.. The old ones are the.. oldest. Phil. SignaturePhil Launchbury, IT PHB 'I'm training the bats that live in my cube to juggle mushrooms' We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Phil Launchbury <phill@launchbury.org.uk> saying something like: >> like that down the field. Iow, why should the fastest bloke be held up >> by having to try and pass demonstrably slower riders? > >Its called "a race". That's the whole point. Is it bollocks. They're racing against the clock and the fastest guy in practice should be on pole so he doesn't have be held up. SignatureDave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day. >Bad form and all, but I'm wondering why the fastest bloke in practice >isn't allowed to go off first and the starting order being something >like that down the field. Iow, why should the fastest bloke be held up >by having to try and pass demonstrably slower riders? Because they have to print the program in advance. And your race number dictates at what interval you leave. SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Champ <news@champ.org.uk> saying something like: >>Bad form and all, but I'm wondering why the fastest bloke in practice >>isn't allowed to go off first and the starting order being something [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Because they have to print the program in advance. And your race >number dictates at what interval you leave. Neither of which are insurmountable these days. An advance program could be printed, sure, but a simple electronic update on public display and/or available for download could keep those who are interested up to date on the revised running order. SignatureDave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day. >We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >drugs began to take hold. I remember Champ <news@champ.org.uk> saying [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >and/or available for download could keep those who are interested up to >date on the revised running order. are you real? displayed where? every so often round the 37+ miles circuit? sure they do a changes to the program during the start of the commentary but how many people do you think catch all of the changes (not just to numbers but also changes to bikes). I'm anal about these things and even I don't manage to catch them all. of the numbers changes are done on the morning of the race, don't you think they have enough to do as it is? SignatureAdie (replace spam with nickname to reply) UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ keeper of the ukrm faq for my sins YZF-R1: ZX9R E1 MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22 BOMB#11 >> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >> drugs began to take hold. I remember Champ <news@champ.org.uk> saying [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > of the numbers changes are done on the morning of the race, don't you > think they have enough to do as it is? They could text it all to everyone who registers on an appropriate website? SignatureHog We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Adie <spam@bonwick.me.uk> saying something like: >>>Because they have to print the program in advance. And your race >>>number dictates at what interval you leave. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >are you real? displayed where? every so often round the 37+ miles >circuit? The simplest. Steam radio. It's a wonderful invention, designed to interface with the ear/brain. You might have heard of it. A simple second channel carrying a mixed voice/data stream for the duration of the race. Anyway, it's not impossible and could be done easily with current data technology, note I said for those who are interested. SignatureDave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day. >We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >drugs began to take hold. I remember Adie <spam@bonwick.me.uk> saying [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Anyway, it's not impossible and could be done easily with current data >technology, note I said for those who are interested. you know that bit you snipped? it said that they did it at the start of the commentary. SignatureAdie (replace spam with nickname to reply) UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ keeper of the ukrm faq for my sins YZF-R1: ZX9R E1 MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22 BOMB#11 We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Adie <spam@bonwick.me.uk> saying something like: >you know that bit you snipped? it said that they did it at the start >of the commentary. It's a start, but irrelevant. FFS, the starting arrangements were devised in Nineteen Canteen and have the glaring flaw in them I've outlined. There is no need for it nowadays. Not that I give a sh.t about it really - the only ones paying the price for the apparent inability of the TT and MGP organisers to get with the program daddy-oh are the riders. SignatureDave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day. >We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >drugs began to take hold. I remember Adie <spam@bonwick.me.uk> saying [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >for the apparent inability of the TT and MGP organisers to get with the >program daddy-oh are the riders. You seem to be spouting bollox from a position of deep ignorance. Well done for keeping up the ukrm tradition. SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Champ <news@champ.org.uk> saying something like: >You seem to be spouting bollox from a position of deep ignorance. Of course. >Well done for keeping up the ukrm tradition. Well, somebody has to. Things are going to the dogs around here with so much knowledge being waved about. Anyway, back to the deep ignorance... It seems that the riders who bust a gut in practice are not getting the 'reward' for it. Sure, some riders get moved up the start order, but nothing like the amount they should. That bloke who was fastest in practice in the Junior - Lens Blurry or something- started umpteenth. What was that all about, then? SignatureDave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day. >We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >drugs began to take hold. I remember Champ <news@champ.org.uk> saying [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Well, somebody has to. Things are going to the dogs around here with so >much knowledge being waved about. heh >Anyway, back to the deep ignorance... >It seems that the riders who bust a gut in practice are not getting the >'reward' for it. Sure, some riders get moved up the start order, but >nothing like the amount they should. There is something of a problem, but I don't think your solution would really work. People like and need to have a program in their hand, with the rider's number in it. I was told by the race office on Tuesday that "there were no slots to move me up to". In fact, 4 people were bumped up; pleasingly, I finished in front of all of them. For tomorrow's Senior race, I've been moved up to number 15. But I certainly intend to finish higher than 15th place. >That bloke who was fastest in practice in the Junior - Lens Blurry or >something- started umpteenth. What was that all about, then? Mats Nilsson, starting at 9 (tomorrow he'll be starting at 2). But, you'll note that the guy who started at position 1 did in fact win the race, so the seeding wasn't so far out. And, to be honest, anywhere in the top 10 is usually good enough - you won't have *that* much traffic to deal with. The problem with me starting at 29 was that it's 2min 20 secs after the leader on the roads, meaning the commentators have a long time to wait to slot me into the leader board, meaning my signallers may not get the information they need to put an accurate pit board out for me. And, of course, I had a bunch of people to overtake - probably around 15 over the whole 4 laps. SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Champ <news@champ.org.uk> saying something like: >There is something of a problem, but I don't think your solution would >really work. People like and need to have a program in their hand, >with the rider's number in it. OK then, what about a partial solution... simple enough and leads to a minimum of disruption, is reasonably fair to all concerned and can be communicated easily via radio announcers. The top ten fastest in practice get the first ten slots at the start. No exceptions for big money, big names, sponsors or anything else - just results and talent. [1] The remaining slots are kept as they are after the ten have been allocated - the blank ten being filled by the ones who didn't make the top ten. [1] I've a feeling that's something like how it was supposed to work in the first place, but there seems no sense to how the start placings are allocated now. SignatureDave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the river cleaned out in a day. > The problem with me starting at 29 was that > it's 2min 20 secs after the leader on the roads, meaning the > commentators have a long time to wait to slot me into the leader > board, meaning my signallers may not get the information they need to > put an accurate pit board out for me. Yeah, that came across during the race. They read out the top 12 at one point, but you hadn't come through the timing point. I kept thinking you'd pulled over or something, and then you'd get a mention. I think on lap 4 the guy read out the top 10, and then said that there are a couple of fast riders to come who will upset that order, like #29, Le Champignon. >> The problem with me starting at 29 was that >> it's 2min 20 secs after the leader on the roads, meaning the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > there are a couple of fast riders to come who will upset that order, > like #29, Le Champignon. I can just imagine: "Badgers, badgers, badgers, badgers, badgers, badgers, badgers, badgers, mushroom!" etc. Signatureplatypus somewhere to go for the night >> I think on lap 4 the guy read out the top 10, and then said that >> there are a couple of fast riders to come who will upset that order, >> like #29, Le Champignon. > > I can just imagine: "Badgers, badgers, badgers, badgers, badgers, > badgers, badgers, badgers, mushroom!" etc. Heh. SignatureRick >> <SNIP, of Champ> >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > In a 30 limit? I was expecting jail time at least. It's *jolly* fast for a 600, isn't it! SignatureHog > ><SNIP, of Champ> > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > In a 30 limit? I was expecting jail time at least. End of the Sulby straight? Signatureogden sv650 - surprisingly quick for a girl's bike >> ><SNIP, of Champ> >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >End of the Sulby straight? Yep. SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk > >> ><SNIP, of Champ> > >> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Yep. What's the run from the Creg to Hillberry like since they smoothed out Brandish? Signatureogden sv650 - surprisingly quick for a girl's bike >What's the run from the Creg to Hillberry like since they smoothed out >Brandish? Well, the run down from the Creg always was flat in top. Now, of course, instead of braking down to 2nd gear, it's just down one, leave the turn in point as late as you dare, and then over on its side. You snick back into top shortly after you straighten up, then you arrive at Hillberry pretty fast. It's still just down one gear, but you brake a fair bit harder. SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk >>What's the run from the Creg to Hillberry like since they smoothed out >>Brandish? > Well, the run down from the Creg always was flat in top. Now, of > course, instead of braking down to 2nd gear, it's just down one, leave > the turn in point as late as you dare, and then over on its side. You > snick back into top shortly after you straighten up, then you arrive > at Hillberry pretty fast. It's still just down one gear, but you > brake a fair bit harder. I heard this in a David Jeffries style deadpan delivery. "Absolutely flat out in top". Well done on your finish. Signature'01 SV650SK1 '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13 OMF #7 >>> What's the run from the Creg to Hillberry like since they smoothed >>> out Brandish? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > "Absolutely flat out in top". No, no, his head's big enough already. Signatureplatypus somewhere to go for the night |
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