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A rather different form of 3-wheeled transport.

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TMack - 29 Aug 2007 18:37 GMT
Ebay item 230164987507.

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AW - 29 Aug 2007 18:40 GMT
>  Ebay item 230164987507.

FFS.  With the lack of rake on that front end, I suspect that will
give a whole new meaning to "handles like a three wheeled shopping
trolley".
platypus - 29 Aug 2007 21:15 GMT
>>  Ebay item 230164987507.
>
> FFS.  With the lack of rake on that front end, I suspect that will
> give a whole new meaning to "handles like a three wheeled shopping
> trolley".

Tell that to Tony Foale.

http://www.tonyfoale.com/gallery/PlayTime/images/11LookMum_jpg.jpg

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AW - 29 Aug 2007 21:19 GMT
> > FFS.  With the lack of rake on that front end, I suspect that will
> > give a whole new meaning to "handles like a three wheeled shopping
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>
> http://www.tonyfoale.com/gallery/PlayTime/images/11LookMum_jpg.jpg

Erk!  What's going on there then?  I know of Foale, of course, of
Quasar and so on.  But no rake = a lack of longitudinal stability in
normal terms.  Doesn't it?
platypus - 29 Aug 2007 22:06 GMT
>>> FFS.  With the lack of rake on that front end, I suspect that will
>>> give a whole new meaning to "handles like a three wheeled shopping
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> Quasar and so on.  But no rake = a lack of longitudinal stability in
> normal terms.  Doesn't it?

That's trail.

http://www.tonyfoale.com/Articles/RakeEx/RakeEx.htm

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AW - 29 Aug 2007 22:09 GMT
> That's trail.

Rake and trail are related though.  The Tuc tuc thing however doesn't
appear to have either!
Bod43@hotmail.co.uk - 30 Aug 2007 00:52 GMT
> > That's trail.
>
> Rake and trail are related though.  The Tuc tuc thing however doesn't
> appear to have either!

I would /guess/ that it has a lot of trail.
the key problem probably was that it was desired to
stop the front going up and down as the steering turned.
The steering axis may not be parallel to the forks legs.
Tosspot - 30 Aug 2007 06:27 GMT
>>>FFS.  With the lack of rake on that front end, I suspect that will
>>>give a whole new meaning to "handles like a three wheeled shopping
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Quasar and so on.  But no rake = a lack of longitudinal stability in
> normal terms.  Doesn't it?

Not really, think of a shopping trolley, no rake lots of trail, and
admittedy they mostly work, not the most stable of things.

Similarly choppers have a lot of rake and at least at speed are ok, but
slow work looks (not ridden one) a bit tricky.

Exactly what the relationship between the two is I dunno, but get it
wrong and it's tree time.  Agility versus stability I guess.

Wasn't the VMax a a bit mungoed in this department?
AW - 30 Aug 2007 08:06 GMT
> Wasn't the VMax a a bit mungoed in this department?-

Extremely.  Handles like a whale on roller skates.
Grimly Curmudgeon - 30 Aug 2007 00:56 GMT
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "TMack"
<aonp82REMOVE@dslDOTpipex.com> saying something like:

> Ebay item 230164987507.

Hmm... looks like there's enough room there to shoehorn something larger
under the tank.
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