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My second Cadwell experience

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Pip Luscher - 30 Aug 2007 20:14 GMT
This was a vast improvement over my last attempt. Oce again I did it
with Hopp Rider training, who provide instruction in fast riding and
how to get round Cadwell quickly, all in an environment that's
comfortingly benign for us abject cowards.

The journey up was stressful: I'd left home a bit late and I had to
stop when my visor pinged loose at one end. That wasn't the worst of
it, oh no. The next problem was having to wait for the bloody Nene
swing bridge to open for a ghost ship. Well, I assume it was a ghost
ship because I saw nothing pass through. It then took several minutes
after closing before they opened the road barriers.

Even that wasn't the worst of it: Having got to Cadwell in time, as
this was the first time I'd tried actually riding to a circuit,  I
then had the problem of finding petrol. After no less than three
exploratory assays into Louth (apparent population: 0) I returned to
Cadwell and asked where the fuel was. Ah. Silly me. Off a road off a
roundabout almost the other side of the town.

The roads round the cicuit do rather make up for the hassles, I have
to say.

So I got to the petrol station to find it packed solid. More delay.
Gah!

All the while I was trying to ride in a manner that avoided another
Close Encounter of the Plod Kind [1]

It was chilly, too, even though I was wearing a textile jacket over my
leathers. These early starts are the one thing I truly hate about
track days.

So, finally: briefed, tagged, dB tested; time to join a group. As I'd
arrived with little time to spare, I was a tad tardy getting to the
collecting area, so I could only join one of the faster sub-groups in
the 'B' group (itself not my first choice). Stress levels up another
notch.

So off went the first session and I actually found that I was
more-or-less keeping up. And enjoying it. And we were one of the
faster groups, if not the fastest.

Second session: down the pit lane, oops, visor's open: close it...
ping! Arse. With a marshall's help I tagged back onto my group after
missing a few laps. Apart from the flappy visor incident it went well.
For the later outings I taped it shut.

The morning sessions are 'themed', uin that one might involve
concentrating on throttle control or looking through a corner. There
were also Cadwell-specific tips: treat this bend as just a kink; you
can run a lot wider than you think there; keep to the left of the pink
square.

The afternoon sessions were pretty much like any track day, except
that there's a procedure for overtaking, so no late dives on the
brakes. I did just the first one: I find that after a while I stop
concentrating and slow down, so I reckon it's best to get out on a
high.

All in all, a great day and I'm much happier with Cadwell. I was even
thinking of giving up riding on tracks altogether before today but...
probably not now. I don't think I'll ever see Cadwell as my favourite
circuit (the Silverstone International circuit holds that honour for
me) but I reckon that ridden well it must just *flow*.

[1] Involves flashing coloured lights, strange musical tones and
cessation of vehicular activity, followed by a 'compulsion' to attend
a certain place at a certain time, and one may end up getting burnt.

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Pete Fisher - 30 Aug 2007 22:05 GMT
In communiqué <s60ed3ltsvv816g0vcgrplqv1rqpk5gdqe@4ax.com>, Pip Luscher
<pips.computer@spammers.foad.ntlworld.com> cast forth these pearls of
wisdom
>All in all, a great day and I'm much happier with Cadwell. I was even
>thinking of giving up riding on tracks altogether before today but...
>probably not now. I don't think I'll ever see Cadwell as my favourite
>circuit (the Silverstone International circuit holds that honour for
>me) but I reckon that ridden well it must just *flow*.

Definitely my favourite. Which reminds me I must get an entry in for the
Morini bash round there in September.
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christofire - 30 Aug 2007 22:23 GMT
> All in all, a great day and I'm much happier with Cadwell. I was even
> thinking of giving up riding on tracks altogether before today but...
> probably not now. I don't think I'll ever see Cadwell as my favourite
> circuit (the Silverstone International circuit holds that honour for
> me) but I reckon that ridden well it must just flow.

I certainly recall a trackday there on the SV being major fun,
especially going past a 7R and "sporty" beemer of some variety. As for
petrol, there used to be a station just along from the track. If you
head out, turn left and follow the road ISTR it being a few miles down
there.

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Pip Luscher - 31 Aug 2007 08:36 GMT
>> All in all, a great day and I'm much happier with Cadwell. I was even
>> thinking of giving up riding on tracks altogether before today but...
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>head out, turn left and follow the road ISTR it being a few miles down
>there.

It's still there and I refuelled there on the way back but I rode
right past it because I didn't realize how close I was to the circuit:
at that point I thought I still had several miles to go and simply
wasn't looking for it. Also, the joining instructions said that it
wasn't 24hr and having missed it I didn't want to double back only to
find it shut at that time of day.

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antonye - 31 Aug 2007 09:51 GMT
> All in all, a great day and I'm much happier with Cadwell. I was even
> thinking of giving up riding on tracks altogether before today but...
> probably not now. I don't think I'll ever see Cadwell as my favourite
> circuit (the Silverstone International circuit holds that honour for
> me) but I reckon that ridden well it must just *flow*.

I like Cadwell, probably my second favourite technical track
after Oulton Park. There are a couple of places that I just
can't get right, which is probably why it is still challenging
enough for me to want to go back there. I love the first
corner (Coppice) as you can take this flat out on the 620,
just tip it in and pray. Down one as you go up the hill and tip
it into Charlies 1 and then keep the power on through
Charlies 2 and back up into top for the back straight.
Lovely!

The bit I don't like is past the mountain, and I'm never
comfortable with the mountain anyway, but those stupid
left-right, off-camber blind flicks are horrible!

It's just a shame that it's in the middle of nowhere and
that surrounding amenities are so poor, as you found out.

--
Antony
Pip Luscher - 31 Aug 2007 10:26 GMT
>I like Cadwell, probably my second favourite technical track
>after Oulton Park. There are a couple of places that I just
>can't get right, which is probably why it is still challenging
>enough for me to want to go back there. I love the first
>corner (Coppice) as you can take this flat out on the 620,
>just tip it in and pray.

That was the one we were told to 'treat as a kink'.

>Down one as you go up the hill and tip
>it into Charlies 1 and then keep the power on through
>Charlies 2 and back up into top for the back straight.
>Lovely!

What we were told was ' tip it in for Coppice, roll off when you see
the Charlies 1 turn-in, then power all the way through the Charlies
complex; there's more room than it looks after Charlies 1'. I found
the blind brow before Charlies 2 bloody unnerving though and had
trouble letting the bike drift wider.

>The bit I don't like is past the mountain, and I'm never
>comfortable with the mountain anyway, but those stupid
>left-right, off-camber blind flicks are horrible!

Odd: I like that bit. There's quite a bump at the point where you
flick from left to right up the mountain, but once I was ready for it
it wasn't a problem.

The bit I hated was Barn: a nasty downhill off-camber bend, where the
apex isn't visible from turn-in, that's in the lee of the trees and
(I'm told) a prime area for rain run-off. Not helped one iota by the
knowledge that a colleague once broke his arm there. I struggled to
get on the power as early or as hard as the others, so I tended to end
up playing catch-up down the straight.

>It's just a shame that it's in the middle of nowhere and
>that surrounding amenities are so poor, as you found out.

It is a bit isolated. I have the joy of the A17, which is a mostly
single-carriageway road that runs across the Fens and is filled with
convoys of lorries - and their attendant tails of cars - in both
directions. I saw at least two mobile camera units on that horrible
road, too. One (on my side) popped into view as I overtook a lorry.

On big up-side is that the roads surrounding Cadwell are fantastic.

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antonye - 31 Aug 2007 11:11 GMT
> The bit I hated was Barn: a nasty downhill off-camber bend, where the
> apex isn't visible from turn-in, that's in the lee of the trees and
> (I'm told) a prime area for rain run-off. Not helped one iota by the
> knowledge that a colleague once broke his arm there. I struggled to
> get on the power as early or as hard as the others, so I tended to end
> up playing catch-up down the straight.

It is quite slow but the track is very wide once you're
through the corner so I usually go down into second for
the old hairpin (the downhill 90-deg right) then up into
third and short into fourth just before and power through
the corner. It gives you a really good run at the straight
and I was in top before crossing the line.

> It is a bit isolated. I have the joy of the A17, which is a mostly
> single-carriageway road that runs across the Fens and is filled with
> convoys of lorries - and their attendant tails of cars - in both
> directions. I saw at least two mobile camera units on that horrible
> road, too. One (on my side) popped into view as I overtook a lorry.

I went that way once, but never again. Our route is now
always M11 > A1 > B6403/A153 all the way. Much easier
than taking the camera infested route across the fens
and although it's further it takes the same time. There's
a great B&B just on the outskirts of Louth and it's
just around the corner from the only petrol station in
the area as well :-D

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Antony
 
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