As there are quite a few Network people reading the NG it's worth
highlighting something I learned today.
With the creation of Openreach BT has isolated the engineering arm from the
Retail side of the business. Thus when you order new telecoms or data
services that require infrastructure installation over BT tail circuits
(copper or fibre) it is Openreach which do the practical work. You the
customer may have ordered from ANY Service Provider that has an agreement
with BT.
I'm sure this much is known to anyone with an interest. What is not obvious
is that Openreach do not, as a standard service, carry out a
pre-installation site survey. YOU must ask your Service Provider for a
*site survey* (if you think it might be required) as an additional service.
I'm sure there will be a charge but if you do not the engineers may turn up,
suck teeth, shake heads and leave again. Rightly so as they now arrive with
no idea of the physical nature of the job.
So if you are adding another telephone line to a site with existing
services, digital services to sites with existing NTU's etc. you will most
likely be ok. If you have any doubts though, ask for a Survey.
A failure to plan ahead my incur significant time delay. If you have waited
10 working days for the Openreach team you may wait another 15 working days
for the Survey and another engineering time slot. This could significantly
spoil your day!

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Macie - 29 Nov 2007 23:57 GMT
>With the creation of Openreach BT has isolated the engineering arm from the
>Retail side of the business.
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>I'm sure there will be a charge but if you do not the engineers may turn up,
>suck teeth, shake heads and leave again.
Ah yes. Recently been through the splendid experience - ISTR they
charged us something in the region of £500 for a survey on a wireless
link between 3 buildings. The aggravation of dealing with four
seperate BT 'departments' is not one I'd like to repeat in a hurry.
>A failure to plan ahead my incur significant time delay. If you have waited
>10 working days for the Openreach team you may wait another 15 working days
>for the Survey and another engineering time slot. This could significantly
>spoil your day!
Or spoil your month if your waiting for an IPClear circuit and some
ISDN that requires bits of road digging up and a wayleave signing by
the landlord of the intervening strip of grass. It doesn't get any
better when the existing IPT doesn't want to play over the wireless
link...

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