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Anyone know the tax implications of a bike?

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Nige - 29 Nov 2007 20:32 GMT
If my business buys me a bike, does anyone know the tax implications? I
know about cars, but the info seems a bit thin on the ground.

I know it counts against your tax etc, but what %?

I'm thinking of a Ducati 1098s

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Hog - 29 Nov 2007 20:55 GMT
> If my business buys me a bike, does anyone know the tax implications?
> I know about cars, but the info seems a bit thin on the ground.
>
> I know it counts against your tax etc, but what %?
>
> I'm thinking of a Ducati 1098s

Heh they don't make it very good. Google this group for details.

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YTC#1 - 29 Nov 2007 21:03 GMT
>  If my business buys me a bike, does anyone know the tax implications? I
> know about cars, but the info seems a bit thin on the ground.

When I was EKS (pre 2000) it was treated as a van, so a basic 20% tax and
I was able to claim all fuel.

It was VAT deductable

Safety gear was also alllowed.

But things may have changed

> I know it counts against your tax etc, but what %?
>
> I'm thinking of a Ducati 1098s

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Catman - 30 Nov 2007 06:28 GMT
>  If my business buys me a bike, does anyone know the tax implications? I
> know about cars, but the info seems a bit thin on the ground.
>
> I know it counts against your tax etc, but what %?
>
> I'm thinking of a Ducati 1098s

Unless the rules have changed, and you *only* use it for work purposes,
then it has no impact at all.  The company can reclaim the VAT on fuel
and servicing as well.  Also when we did it the company bought all the
kit and passed it through as business costs with no issues.

HTH

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Timo Geusch - 30 Nov 2007 07:16 GMT
> > If my business buys me a bike, does anyone know the tax
> > implications? I  know about cars, but the info seems a bit thin on
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> Unless the rules have changed, and you only use it for work purposes,
> then it has no impact at all.

That's my understanding as well, but as my accountant pointed out, it's
not *that* easy to convince HRMC that it's 100% for work purposes, even
if you have a garage full of bikes and several other vehicles at your
disposal. So it would be prudent to assume the 20% tax liability.

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Miles Reading - 30 Nov 2007 08:47 GMT
snip.

> > > If my business buys me a bike, does anyone know the tax
> > > implications? I  know about cars, but the info seems a bit thin on
> > > the ground.

I dont know a huge amount about taxation but a few years ago I was
speaking to some guys who always did their own tax returns and they
were saying you can claim for loads of stuff, even down to insurance
costs and AA cover.

Might be worth phoning HRMC and asking if you can claim for buying an
optimate to keep  the battery "maintained", paddock stands,
scottoiller etc

The fun implication, is rated at 100%
Catman - 30 Nov 2007 11:36 GMT
>>> If my business buys me a bike, does anyone know the tax
>>> implications? I  know about cars, but the info seems a bit thin on
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> if you have a garage full of bikes and several other vehicles at your
> disposal. So it would be prudent to assume the 20% tax liability.

I never had any issues. I kept every receipt and logged my mileage to
and from clients.

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The Longhaired Boxhead - 30 Nov 2007 12:04 GMT
>>>> If my business buys me a bike, does anyone know the tax
>>>> implications? I  know about cars, but the info seems a bit thin on
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>I never had any issues. I kept every receipt and logged my mileage to
>and from clients.

That's pretty much the way to do it...
no idea man - 30 Nov 2007 12:15 GMT
> >>> If my business buys me a bike, does anyone know the tax
> >>> implications? I  know about cars, but the info seems a bit thin on
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> I never had any issues. I kept every receipt and logged my mileage to
> and from clients.

Just out of interest, what are the insurance implications? My policies
are always SDP + commuting to/from 1 place of work. Does it tend to be
lots more if you include riding for business purposes? If it is more
expensive and you use the bike for work and personal, can you claim
the difference as an expense?
ogden - 30 Nov 2007 12:54 GMT
> Just out of interest, what are the insurance implications? My policies
> are always SDP + commuting to/from 1 place of work. Does it tend to be
> lots more if you include riding for business purposes? If it is more
> expensive and you use the bike for work and personal, can you claim
> the difference as an expense?

I always include class 1 business use just in case and it costs about a
tenner.

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Catman - 30 Nov 2007 13:44 GMT
>>>>> If my business buys me a bike, does anyone know the tax
>>>>> implications? I  know about cars, but the info seems a bit thin on
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> are always SDP + commuting to/from 1 place of work. Does it tend to be
> lots more if you include riding for business purposes?

No, it was a few tens of pounds IIRC.
>If it is more
> expensive and you use the bike for work and personal, can you claim
> the difference as an expense?

If you use  a personal bike for work, I would expect that you'd have to
negotiate that with the employer.

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ginge - 30 Nov 2007 13:45 GMT
> If you use  a personal bike for work, I would expect that you'd have to
> negotiate that with the employer.

Our work policy is simply claim the petrol car rate.
 
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