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sweller - 29 Jan 2008 13:03 GMT http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/Elefantentreffen2008/
I'm having to use a knackered laptop, can't make out the pictures and I can't be bothered to check so I've just slung up all my crappy phone shots.
I f.cking hate Joe Lucas (British electrics on an Italian bite) and I've got to write a little report. However, I have a washing machine to fill and a tent to air.
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Hog - 29 Jan 2008 13:08 GMT > http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/Elefantentreffen2008/ > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I've got to write a little report. However, I have a washing machine > to fill and a tent to air. So someone went on a newish model Pan? lunacy.
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Jérémy - 29 Jan 2008 13:25 GMT "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in news:608mr4F1pgdbuU1 @mid.individual.net:
> So someone went on a newish model Pan? lunacy. There was an RT just like mine in one of those photos. Bravo!
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M J Carley - 29 Jan 2008 13:42 GMT In the referenced article, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> writes:
>So someone went on a newish model Pan? lunacy. They don't break when you drop them on ice. I like my Pan.
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sweller - 29 Jan 2008 13:51 GMT > > So someone went on a newish model Pan? lunacy. > > They don't break when you drop them on ice. I like my Pan. ..and for the record - to clear up some inaccuracies recorded earlier - I didn't drop Mike's Pan. Certainly not whilst riding it.
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ginge - 29 Jan 2008 13:59 GMT > > > So someone went on a newish model Pan? lunacy. > > > > They don't break when you drop them on ice. I like my Pan. > > ..and for the record - to clear up some inaccuracies recorded earlier - I > didn't drop Mike's Pan. Certainly not whilst riding it. I notice you're not denying the cartwheeling down hill whilst still having a piss.
Brownz @ Work - 29 Jan 2008 13:17 GMT > http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/Elefantentreffen2008/ > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I've got to write a little report. However, I have a washing machine > to fill and a tent to air. Brrrrr...... Well done that crew.
Looks like the UK could be in for some wintery action towards the end of the week.
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JB - 29 Jan 2008 13:36 GMT > http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/Elefantentreffen2008/ > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > got to write a little report. However, I have a washing machine to fill > and a tent to air. Fitting Lucas (Rita?) on a Guzzi/BMW etc has always seemed a bit troublesome. The 4 I've repaired failed apparently due to vibration causing dry joints on the pcb. I only use Pirhana on my Guzzis. They are easy and cheap to repair if they ever go wrong, which they don't seem to IME.
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sweller - 29 Jan 2008 13:45 GMT > > I f.cking hate Joe Lucas (British electrics on an Italian bite) and > > I've got to write a little report. However, I have a washing machine [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > are easy and cheap to repair if they ever go wrong, which they don't > seem to IME. The Rita box had been on there for 10 or so years and never given any trouble. I have another Pirahna unit so may fit that.
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Hog - 29 Jan 2008 18:15 GMT >>> I f.cking hate Joe Lucas (British electrics on an Italian bite) and >>> I've got to write a little report. However, I have a washing [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The Rita box had been on there for 10 or so years and never given any > trouble. I have another Pirahna unit so may fit that. You should have had it in your mobile spares kit really.
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sweller - 29 Jan 2008 18:38 GMT > > The Rita box had been on there for 10 or so years and never given any > > trouble. I have another Pirahna unit so may fit that. > > You should have had it in your mobile spares kit really. I don't think carrying two coils, distributor, wiring harness and electronics box would be that practical. Especially as the Rita unit hadn't given any trouble up until that point.
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Hog - 29 Jan 2008 18:50 GMT >>> The Rita box had been on there for 10 or so years and never given >>> any trouble. I have another Pirahna unit so may fit that. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I don't think carrying two coils, distributor, wiring harness and > electronics box would be that practical. Huh, amateurs. ..and where was your spare tyre and inner tubes.
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sweller - 29 Jan 2008 18:55 GMT > > > You should have had it in your mobile spares kit really. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Huh, amateurs. > ..and where was your spare tyre and inner tubes. I had levers and a repair kit.
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darsy - 29 Jan 2008 13:59 GMT > http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/Elefantentreffen2008/ > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I f.cking hate Joe Lucas he's not known as "The Prince of Darkness" for nothing.
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MikeH - 29 Jan 2008 14:05 GMT > http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/Elefantentreffen2008/ > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > got to write a little report. However, I have a washing machine to fill > and a tent to air. Any idea I might have entertained about going has disappeared completely looking at that snow.
I've only ridden in proper snow half a dozen times, never by choice, and it's terrifying until my brain goes snowblind and I start laughing and enjoying riding along with my feet down waiting for the bike slip and crush my leg and/or ankle.
Great respect to everybody who went, even those who braved a one-nighter in the hotel.
<waits for more photos>
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SD - 29 Jan 2008 21:32 GMT >I've only ridden in proper snow half a dozen times, <remembers>
#1 TS185 on the way back from my Saturday job, where the slush froze to the legs of my jeans. Not nice. #2 Z650 up the M20, before it conked out and we were rescued by a Tesco lorry full of mushrooms. #3 CBR1000 back to Acton from TCR in a blizzard. Fell off five yards from the front door. #4 CBR1000 back to Acton from Reading, M4. 3 points and £40 fine.
I think that might be it - light dustings don't count.
Lozzo - 29 Jan 2008 21:38 GMT SD says...
> >I've only ridden in proper snow half a dozen times, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > from the front door. > #4 CBR1000 back to Acton from Reading, M4. 3 points and £40 fine. Larkhall to Bedford. Snowed all the way down the A74, M74, M6 until I got to Birmingham. I was in leathers too IIRC, not textiles.
Before that I'd ridden every winter that we've had snow since I started riding.
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steve auvache - 29 Jan 2008 22:05 GMT >SD says... >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Larkhall to Bedford. Snowed all the way down the A74, M74, M6 until I >got to Birmingham. I was in leathers too IIRC, not textiles. Here to Heathrow at dawn with freezing fog and temperatures at -5c. I too was in leather and I cried real tears of pain as I thawed out.
>Before that I'd ridden every winter that we've had snow since I started >riding. Last time I rode in snow I was having so much fun I fell off. I made myself a promise that day: next time I do anything as stupid I will use a more suitable bike.
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Lozzo - 29 Jan 2008 22:31 GMT steve auvache says...
> Last time I rode in snow I was having so much fun I fell off. I made > myself a promise that day: next time I do anything as stupid I will use > a more suitable bike. Soon after I first started riding me and my mate Gus went out for a midnight ride on the snow, him on a Honda XL250S and me on a Kawasaki KE175. I hadn't laughed like I did that night in my entire life. It got off to a bad start, I fell off trying to start my bike, then as I waited for him to try and back his bike up the steep drive I slid sideways down a road leading to some garages - anyone who knows the link road between Mallard Hill and Larkway in Brickhill, Bedford will know where I mean. We rode over a pond on the green, and fell off so many times it was embarrassing, but we had fun.
We were only out for about an hour and a half, but it took me all night to dry and thaw out.
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steve auvache - 29 Jan 2008 22:52 GMT >steve auvache says... > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >We rode over a pond on the green, and fell off so many times it was >embarrassing, but we had fun. "A tenth the speed, a hundred times the fun."
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Catman - 30 Jan 2008 07:21 GMT > steve auvache says... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > a road leading to some garages - anyone who knows the link road between > Mallard Hill Good lord. My best mate lived there until a couple of years back.
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Andy Bonwick - 30 Jan 2008 08:08 GMT >> steve auvache says... >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Good lord. My best mate lived there until a couple of years back. Well I lived in Larkway and it sure as f.ck doesn't link with Mallard Hill unless you count using the main road. I think Lozzo might have problems with the names of roads these days so be careful if he gives you directions somewhere.
Catman - 30 Jan 2008 08:23 GMT >>> steve auvache says... >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > problems with the names of roads these days so be careful if he gives > you directions somewhere. Noted, ta
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Lozzo - 30 Jan 2008 23:42 GMT Andy Bonwick says...
> >> steve auvache says... > >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > problems with the names of roads these days so be careful if he gives > you directions somewhere. Sorry, I meant Rooksmead. I are a c.nt.
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Lozzo - 30 Jan 2008 23:43 GMT Catman says...
> > steve auvache says... > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Good lord. My best mate lived there until a couple of years back. Name? I might know them
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Catman - 31 Jan 2008 07:27 GMT > Catman says... >>> steve auvache says... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Name? I might know them Clive Evans, 103
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Lozzo - 31 Jan 2008 10:13 GMT Catman says...
> > Catman says... > >>> steve auvache says... [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Clive Evans, 103 Doesn't ring any bells.
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Simon Wilson - 31 Jan 2008 14:17 GMT >>> Good lord. My best mate lived there until a couple of years back. >> >> Name? I might know them > > Clive Evans, 103 Blimey, he's pretty sprightly for his age.
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Catman - 31 Jan 2008 20:47 GMT >>>> Good lord. My best mate lived there until a couple of years back. >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Blimey, he's pretty sprightly for his age. Indeed.
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dog - 30 Jan 2008 09:13 GMT > >I've only ridden in proper snow half a dozen times, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I think that might be it - light dustings don't count. i remember going to work at a client site on the zxr400 in heavy snow. turned south off holborn viaduct down shoe lane, there's a bit of a slope. underneath the snow it was just ice. the top layer of snow just drifted away from the ice and the bike travelled at least 100m down the slope on its side.
i parked the bike at the side of the road (as far as i could tell since it was all completely featureless) and went into work. came back about an hour and a half later when it had eased up, they'd melted all the snow and ice on the road and given me a ticket for parking half on a pedestrian crossing (like i knew where the markings were).
not as scary as coming over the dartford crossing bridge in a blizzard and high winds though. i was working hard against the wind, trying to keep the bike straight, when out of my ~20m visibility in front of me i suddenly saw an articulated lorry looming out, its load at about 45 degrees to the road, right in my path. by pure luck it managed to right itself, but it was definitely a brown trouser moment.
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