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Hog - 29 Jan 2008 20:01 GMT Are you planning TOG tour 2008?
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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 29 Jan 2008 20:10 GMT Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Hog <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> typed
>Are you planning TOG tour 2008? > >I thought you might need this: > >http://tinyurl.com/2zhyq5 FOYRNB. I shall be aboard the majestic GTR14.
I have, however, decided to travel down to Dover the night before.
Not that I'm at all superstitious...
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Andy Bonwick - 29 Jan 2008 20:13 GMT >Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Hog ><hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> typed [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Not that I'm at all superstitious... I'm glad we're not going to have to ride past you lying in the road this time.
Wicked Uncle Nigel - 29 Jan 2008 20:22 GMT Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Andy Bonwick <nospam@bonwick.me.uk> typed
>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Hog >><hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> typed [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >I'm glad we're not going to have to ride past you lying in the road >this time. I wouldn't do that to you again.
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Spete - 29 Jan 2008 22:44 GMT >>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Hog >><hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> typed [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I'm glad we're not going to have to ride past you lying in the road > this time. He may just still be lying there at the roadside....
wessie - 29 Jan 2008 20:50 GMT > Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Hog > <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> typed [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Not that I'm at all superstitious... Are you dossing on someone's floor or using a B&B/hotel?
I will need to be somewhere closer to the ferry the night before.
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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 29 Jan 2008 20:56 GMT Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, wessie <putmynamehere@tesco.net> typed
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Hog >> <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> typed [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Are you dossing on someone's floor or using a B&B/hotel? Hotel. Somebody on here recommended this: http://www.swingate.com so I booked it.
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wessie - 29 Jan 2008 21:12 GMT > Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, wessie > <putmynamehere@tesco.net> typed [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Hotel. Somebody on here recommended this: http://www.swingate.com so I > booked it. looks a bit better than the Travelodge at Ashford
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Eiron - 29 Jan 2008 21:35 GMT >> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, wessie >> <putmynamehere@tesco.net> typed [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > looks a bit better than the Travelodge at Ashford The Holiday Inn at Ashford is pretty good and has free wireless internet (unless the neighbour has put a WEP/WPA key on his router recently).
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Pip - 30 Jan 2008 00:03 GMT >> wessie <putmynamehere@tesco.net> typed
>>>> I have, however, decided to travel down to Dover the night before.
>>>Are you dossing on someone's floor or using a B&B/hotel? Nice feeder line ...
>> Hotel. Somebody on here recommended this: http://www.swingate.com so I >> booked it. Vital info received ...
>looks a bit better than the Travelodge at Ashford A swinging gate is always welcome. Better than your average dogging gate, at least.
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Brownz (Mobile) - 29 Jan 2008 21:27 GMT > Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, wessie > <putmynamehere@tesco.net> typed [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Hotel. Somebody on here recommended this: http://www.swingate.com so I > booked it. I'll see you in the bar then.
Its not the hilton, but its comfortable, does good grub & brekkies, and has a decent enough bar.
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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 29 Jan 2008 21:34 GMT Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, "Brownz (Mobile)" <someone.not@microsoft.com> typed
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, wessie >> <putmynamehere@tesco.net> typed [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >I'll see you in the bar then. It was you! I remember now. Cool.
>Its not the hilton, but its comfortable, does good grub & brekkies, and has >a decent enough bar. Excellent. I shall buy you a beer.
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wessie - 29 Jan 2008 21:55 GMT "Brownz \(Mobile\)" <someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote in news:KSMnj.565 $2Q4.440@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net:
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, wessie >>> Are you dossing on someone's floor or using a B&B/hotel? >> >> Hotel. Somebody on here recommended this: http://www.swingate.com so I >> booked it. Booked a double room via Activehotels.
> I'll see you in the bar then. A pint of ale please.
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The Older Gentleman - 29 Jan 2008 20:59 GMT > I have, however, decided to travel down to Dover the night before. We can put you up in the Chateau, if you want.
Plenty of wine.
If you bring it.
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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 29 Jan 2008 21:03 GMT Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk> typed
>> I have, however, decided to travel down to Dover the night before. > >We can put you up in the Chateau, if you want. I'm sorted, ta. I'm staying in Dover so I can do my usual "rotting in me pit" thing on Friday morning.
>Plenty of wine. > >If you bring it. You'll be wanting SteveH for a decent drop.
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The Older Gentleman - 29 Jan 2008 21:18 GMT > Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older > Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk> typed [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > You'll be wanting SteveH for a decent drop. True, true.
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Derek Turner - 29 Jan 2008 22:12 GMT > Are you planning TOG tour 2008? > > I thought you might need this: > > http://tinyurl.com/2zhyq5 OK I know what BOSM and EOSM mean but what is the TOG Tour? Does it refer to The Older Gentleman, where's it to, when and can anyone (excepting c.nts, of course) join?
wessie - 29 Jan 2008 22:20 GMT Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> wrote in news:609mn7F1ppiabU1 @mid.individual.net:
>> Are you planning TOG tour 2008? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > refer to The Older Gentleman, where's it to, when and can anyone > (excepting c.nts, of course) join? can't you search google groups on Linux? http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.motorcycles/msg/a7040b1dff5b4e46
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Derek Turner - 29 Jan 2008 22:30 GMT > can't you search google groups on Linux? wouldn't have helped me, would it, as it's called the 'French Run' in the link below?
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.motorcycles/msg/a7040b1dff5b4e46 OK so TOG Tour = The French Run, thanks, that's all I needed to know. As 'my' French port is S. Malo and you're planning to go North from Calais I'd already decided it wasn't for me. It was the change of nomenclature that confused me.
wessie - 29 Jan 2008 23:48 GMT Derek Turner <frderek@cesmail.net> wrote in news:609nonF1pp98sU1 @mid.individual.net:
>> can't you search google groups on Linux? > > wouldn't have helped me, would it, as it's called the 'French Run' in > the link below? Ooh, tantrum.
>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.motorcycles/msg/a7040b1dff5b4e46 > > OK so TOG Tour = The French Run, thanks, that's all I needed to know. As > 'my' French port is S. Malo and you're planning to go North from Calais > I'd already decided it wasn't for me. It was the change of nomenclature > that confused me. The other articles in the thread referenced TOG Tour. I just quoted the OP as it gives a sensible sized URL. I used TOG Tour as my search string. The term has been used for many years.
The Western Channel routes suit me better. Portsmouth & Poole are a lot closer than Kent. As TOG lives in Surrey he tends to use Dover-Calais. He has used Newhaven and Portsmouth on one occasion each.
If I'm going on a solo trip I tend to use LDLines from Portsmouth to Le Havre. The extra cost of the ferry trip is mostly offset by the additional petrol used getting to Dover. My son living near Portsmouth is obviously a big factor too.
The Brittany Ferries routes, inc. S Malo, would be good apart from one thing: the cost. They aren't travelling much further than LDLines yet the price differential is usually huge.
Of course, you could stop whinging and DFV a western port tour to the Cotentin Peninsula or Brittany.
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Derek Turner - 29 Jan 2008 23:56 GMT > The Brittany Ferries routes, inc. S Malo, would be good apart from one > thing: the cost. They aren't travelling much further than LDLines yet the > price differential is usually huge. > > Of course, you could stop whinging and DFV a western port tour to the > Cotentin Peninsula or Brittany. As I'm in Jersey, it's a 50 minute 'hop' to S. Malo for me. Sorry if you thought I was 'whinging' but any run I can join from S. Malo or even Cherbourg I will willingly partake in. DVF?????
John B - 30 Jan 2008 06:11 GMT > > The Brittany Ferries routes, inc. S Malo, would be good apart from > > one thing: the cost. They aren't travelling much further than [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > you thought I was 'whinging' but any run I can join from S. Malo or > even Cherbourg I will willingly partake in. DVF????? DFV.
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Champ - 29 Jan 2008 23:56 GMT >The Western Channel routes suit me better. Portsmouth & Poole are a lot >closer than Kent. As TOG lives in Surrey he tends to use Dover-Calais. He >has used Newhaven and Portsmouth on one occasion each. As TOG has said in the past, for a long weekend you really need the shortest crossing you can manage. I'm nearer the western ports too, but there's little point spending in a 72 hour trip spending 10+ hours on the boat.
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Derek Turner - 30 Jan 2008 00:04 GMT >> The Western Channel routes suit me better. Portsmouth & Poole are a lot >> closer than Kent. As TOG lives in Surrey he tends to use Dover-Calais. He [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > but there's little point spending in a 72 hour trip spending 10+ hours > on the boat. Heh, S. Malo /is/ the shortest crossing I can manage! 50 mins.
wessie - 30 Jan 2008 00:14 GMT Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in news:68fvp39mr1f60ku2s04l5k2s992smk193j@ 4ax.com:
>>The Western Channel routes suit me better. Portsmouth & Poole are a lot >>closer than Kent. As TOG lives in Surrey he tends to use Dover-Calais. He [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > but there's little point spending in a 72 hour trip spending 10+ hours > on the boat. As posted elsewhere, I'm overnighting in Dover before the trip in May. Catching the overnight boat from Portsmouth puts me in Le Havre for 0800. [0] Ready for a full day in the saddle/Seat if travelling afar[1], or in resort by lunchtime if going for le weekend.
The return ferry gets into Portsmouth at 2130, so you can have a full day in France, get on the boat at tea time and be home by midnight.
I contend that, for me, a Thursday to Sunday long weekend using Portsmouth to Le Havre is little different to using the Dover-Calais route.
[0] I can't see me being in Calais for 0800 after a night in a pub with Brownz & WUN. [1] I drove my little Seat all the way from LeH to the Black Forest by 1600 in 2006.
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Brownz (Mobile) - 30 Jan 2008 00:40 GMT > Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in > news:68fvp39mr1f60ku2s04l5k2s992smk193j@ 4ax.com: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > [0] I can't see me being in Calais for 0800 after a night in a pub > with Brownz & WUN. Heh, I think our reputation precedes us......
> [1] I drove my little Seat all the way from LeH to the Black Forest > by 1600 in 2006. I quite often do Boulogne-Su-Mer to the Cote in a day, and visa versa - a long day mind you.
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wessie - 30 Jan 2008 00:50 GMT "Brownz \(Mobile\)" <someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote in news:JHPnj.34175 $a61.15966@newsfe3-win.ntli.net:
> I quite often do Boulogne-Su-Mer to the Cote in a day, and visa versa - a > long day mind you. Cote d'Or? From B-s-M.
That's piss easy. Beaune to S Wales is a middling day. I think a long day by motorcycle has to be 700 miles or more. Geneva to S Wales, maybe.
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Brownz @ Work - 30 Jan 2008 10:23 GMT > "Brownz \(Mobile\)" <someone.not@microsoft.com> wrote in > news:JHPnj.34175 $a61.15966@newsfe3-win.ntli.net: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Cote d'Or? From B-s-M. It would be - No, Cote d' Azur - Bargemon to be precise.
And that's using the Grenoble - Gap - Route Napoleon method of attack as well
> That's piss easy. Beaune to S Wales is a middling day. I think a long > day by motorcycle has to be 700 miles or more. Geneva to S Wales, > maybe. Aye - fair do.
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Andy Bonwick - 30 Jan 2008 08:16 GMT >>The Western Channel routes suit me better. Portsmouth & Poole are a lot >>closer than Kent. As TOG lives in Surrey he tends to use Dover-Calais. He [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >but there's little point spending in a 72 hour trip spending 10+ hours >on the boat. The overnight ferry worked well for us last weekend but we were away for longer and using the Hoek of Holland didn't really add any distance to the journey.
Drinking beer on the ferry was an influencing factor for all concerned. I'll not try and deny that before anyone feels the need to point it out.
The Older Gentleman - 30 Jan 2008 07:24 GMT > The Western Channel routes suit me better. Portsmouth & Poole are a lot > closer than Kent. As TOG lives in Surrey he tends to use Dover-Calais. He > has used Newhaven and Portsmouth on one occasion each. It's not a matter of my proximity, or otherwise, actually. Portsmouth is just as close to me as Dover. Newhaven is closer.
POSL gives us a very good deal on the ferries. Brittany Ferries and the other operators refuse to discuss group discounts.
When we used Portsmouth, that was when POSL had the route and we did Portsmouth out, Calais back. Which was excellent.
I remember talking to Brittany Ferries and telling them I'd be putting about 30 bikes and 50 people on their boat, and we'd all be hungry and thirsty and spend lots of money. I didnt expect them to match POSL's Dover-Calais price because their Western Channel run is far longer, but if they could make some deal, they'd get the business.
They couldn't GAF. I've tried a couple of times since, and they still don't.
*Shrug*
There's also the matter of ferry times and journey lengths. Noody really wants to get into Caen, for example, at 10pm or have to leave on Sunday morning at 8am.
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Pip - 30 Jan 2008 00:05 GMT >OK so TOG Tour = The French Run, thanks, that's all I needed to know. As >'my' French port is S. Malo and you're planning to go North from Calais >I'd already decided it wasn't for me. It was the change of nomenclature >that confused me. Pauvre petit fleur preciouse.
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Derek Turner - 30 Jan 2008 00:12 GMT > Pauvre petit fleur preciouse. ;-)
Grimly Curmudgeon - 29 Jan 2008 23:46 GMT We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> saying something like:
>Are you planning TOG tour 2008? > >I thought you might need this: > >http://tinyurl.com/2zhyq5 Fittingly, the bloke's a truss-maker, and with a name like Mighell I suppose he just had to be a welder.
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CT - 30 Jan 2008 08:44 GMT > Are you planning TOG tour 2008? > > I thought you might need this: > > http://tinyurl.com/2zhyq5 Never mind that, is sweller going to buy a Smartuki? http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2005/06/08/smart-car-plus-gsxr-equals-smartuki -a-very-smart-car/
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platypus - 30 Jan 2008 09:13 GMT >> Are you planning TOG tour 2008? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Never mind that, is sweller going to buy a Smartuki? > http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2005/06/08/smart-car-plus-gsxr-equals-smartuki -a-very-smart-car/ I think he had a problem with it having less luggage space than the Guzzi.
CT - 31 Jan 2008 08:50 GMT > > Never mind that, is sweller going to buy a Smartuki? > > I think he had a problem with it having less luggage space than the > Guzzi. This is no better for luggage, but strangely attractive: http://search.ebay.co.uk/160203566591
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Hog - 31 Jan 2008 10:13 GMT >>> Never mind that, is sweller going to buy a Smartuki? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > This is no better for luggage, but strangely attractive: > http://search.ebay.co.uk/160203566591 JHC I'd like a go in that. It must handle like an absolute c.nt!
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Ace - 31 Jan 2008 10:22 GMT On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:13:30 -0000, in <60dlacF1pger8U1@mid.individual.net>, "Hog" <hogSPAM@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Never mind that, is sweller going to buy a Smartuki? >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >JHC >I'd like a go in that. It must handle like an absolute c.nt! Especially with "1 forward 5 reverse sequential gears".
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Pip - 31 Jan 2008 10:35 GMT >> This is no better for luggage, but strangely attractive: >> http://search.ebay.co.uk/160203566591 > >JHC >I'd like a go in that. It must handle like an absolute c.nt! I'm not surprised the rear tyres 'need replacing'.
Why is it that none of these c.nts can speel?
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Rudy Lacchin - 31 Jan 2008 20:02 GMT >> > Never mind that, is sweller going to buy a Smartuki? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > This is no better for luggage, but strangely attractive: > http://search.ebay.co.uk/160203566591 Hey, neat - a coffin without handles!
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Sean Hamerton - 31 Jan 2008 16:50 GMT > Are you planning TOG tour 2008? > > I thought you might need this: > > http://tinyurl.com/2zhyq5 Nevermind that, where can I get one of these?
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Mark Olson - 31 Jan 2008 17:32 GMT >>Are you planning TOG tour 2008? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/05/10/radial-engine-powered-motorcycle/ It's shite. Wasp Major or nothing, I say.
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