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is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday?  Signaturedog sl1000 two#5 pwcram#3 > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? I was going to ask the same thing. Well, not specifically on the Sunday. I was thinking of knocking off work at lunchtime on Friday and going before the drinks-at-Lowlander. But then I thought about it some more and realised it would be £18 that could be better spent on beer. Is Ally Pally not on this year? -- d. > > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > > I was going to ask the same thing. Well, not specifically on the > Sunday. I was thinking of knocking off work at lunchtime on Friday and > going before the drinks-at-Lowlander. I'm going on Friday. > Is Ally Pally not on this year? I thought this was the Ally Pally show but they'd just moved it to a better venue. > > > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I'm going on Friday. ah, I knew there was another reason not to go ;-) > > Is Ally Pally not on this year? > > I thought this was the Ally Pally show but they'd just moved it to a > better venue. The Ally Pally show was (recently) run by Superbike magazine, this "london motorcycle show" appears to be an MCN affair. I would disagree that ExCel is a "better venue" than Ally Pally, but that's purely a location thing (I've never been to ExCel) -- d. > > > > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > ah, I knew there was another reason not to go ;-) Band rehearsal has been cancelled so I could come and annoy you at Lowlander but I'll have the old man with me so possibly not. > > > Is Ally Pally not on this year? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The Ally Pally show was (recently) run by Superbike magazine, this > "london motorcycle show" appears to be an MCN affair. I don't care who runs any of these things. I don't do the MCN hatred thing although I think Superbike is a w.nk rag for chavs. > I would disagree that ExCel is a "better venue" than Ally Pally, but > that's purely a location thing (I've never been to ExCel) Having been to both ExCel is a larger, modern venue with better access and facilities. I'd rather go there given the choice but there's not much in it from a location point of view for me. > > > > > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Band rehearsal has been cancelled so I could come and annoy you at > Lowlander but I'll have the old man with me so possibly not. oh go on, you miserable old c.nt. > > > > Is Ally Pally not on this year? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I don't care who runs any of these things. I don't do the MCN hatred > thing although I think Superbike is a w.nk rag for chavs. I don't give a f.ck about any bike mag - I think they're all sh.t. > > I would disagree that ExCel is a "better venue" than Ally Pally, but > > that's purely a location thing (I've never been to ExCel) > > Having been to both ExCel is a larger, modern venue with better access > and facilities. I'd rather go there given the choice but there's not > much in it from a location point of view for me. fair enough - Ally Pally is just a hell of a lot easier for me to get to/from. -- d. > I don't give a f.ck about any bike mag - I think they're all sh.t. This does appear to be true now. Blame EMAP I suppose. SignatureHog '03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400 > > I don't give a f.ck about any bike mag - I think they're all sh.t. > > This does appear to be true now. Blame EMAP I suppose. Superbike and Fastbike seem to be aimed at the sort of riders who wear stick on fluorescent mohawks on their lids. >> > I don't give a f.ck about any bike mag - I think they're all sh.t. >> >> This does appear to be true now. Blame EMAP I suppose. > > Superbike and Fastbike seem to be aimed at the sort of riders who wear > stick on fluorescent mohawks on their lids. You mean you don't? ;) > >> > I don't give a f.ck about any bike mag - I think they're all sh.t. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You mean you don't? ;) No but I believe it still happens in areas where it's still 1995. >> >> > I don't give a f.ck about any bike mag - I think they're all >> >> > sh.t. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > No but I believe it still happens in areas where it's still 1995. It's always 1995 in my head ;) > It's always 1995 in my head ;) The last time I went to Keighley, it looked like 19*6*5, so you're 30 years ahead of your time. SignatureChris >> It's always 1995 in my head ;) > > The last time I went to Keighley, it looked like 19*6*5, so you're 30 > years ahead of your time. I only work here, miserable pighole full of sh.t that it is. > > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > > I was going to ask the same thing. Well, not specifically on the > Sunday. I was thinking of knocking off work at lunchtime on Friday and > going before the drinks-at-Lowlander. can't do that. can't do saturday either as i have a niece/nephew-birthday- thing. > But then I thought about it some more and realised it would be �18 > that could be better spent on beer. not that many beers, these days. > Is Ally Pally not on this year? apparently they did say last year that this year's one would be at excel. Signaturedog sl1000 two#5 pwcram#3 > > > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > can't do that. fair enough. You might deride my suit-wearing, but being the boss means I can take whatever time off I like :-) > can't do saturday either as i have a niece/nephew-birthday- > thing. I'm doing Vinopolis on Saturday (16:15 on the Vintage tour, if anyone cares to join myself and A.) > > But then I thought about it some more and realised it would be £18 > > that could be better spent on beer. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > apparently they did say last year that this year's one would be at excel. you know, I've lost interest already. -- d. > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? No. It'll be crap and my shopping list is empty. Signatureogden sv650 & rgv250 > > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > > No. It'll be crap and my shopping list is empty. those are the reasons I'm not going to bother - I've pretty much decided on what I'm going to replace the Tiger with at the start of the summer, so I don't need to do the "sitting on bikes" thing. -- d. > > > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > decided on what I'm going to replace the Tiger with at the start of > the summer, What? > > > > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What? kawasaki Z1000. of course, I'll probably have changed my mind by this afternoon, because I quite like the look of: http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bike/bandit1250sf/ -- d. > > > those are the reasons I'm not going to bother - I've pretty much > > > decided on what I'm going to replace the Tiger with at the start of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > kawasaki Z1000. In orange? > of course, I'll probably have changed my mind by this afternoon, > because I quite like the look of: > > http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bike/bandit1250sf/ I like that. > > > > those are the reasons I'm not going to bother - I've pretty much > > > > decided on what I'm going to replace the Tiger with at the start of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > In orange? of course. Or black. Not green. > > of course, I'll probably have changed my mind by this afternoon, > > because I quite like the look of: > > >http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bike/bandit1250sf/ > > I like that. it's a lot of new bike for the money. -- d. > > >http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bike/bandit1250sf/ > > > I like that. > > it's a lot of new bike for the money. <tempted> Damn > > > >http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bike/bandit1250sf/ > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > <tempted> Damn I'll make it easy for you... I'll buy your Blackbird? -- Vass > > > > >http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bike/bandit1250sf/ > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I'll make it easy for you... > I'll buy your Blackbird? Begone! Evil tempting devil type thing.....really? > > I'll make it easy for you... > > I'll buy your Blackbird? > > Begone! Evil tempting devil type thing.....really? Dunno what you paid for it, or its age etc etc we could be £000's apart but if it fits what I'm looking for, maybe :-) -- Vass > > > >http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bike/bandit1250sf/ > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > <tempted> Damn go on go on go on. -- d. >> > >http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bike/bandit1250sf/ >> >> > I like that. >> >> it's a lot of new bike for the money. It damned well is, too. ><tempted> Damn Go on, go on - it's in the OTC as well. SignaturePip: B12 > > > kawasaki Z1000. > > > > In orange? > > of course. Or black. Not green. Assuming a new one, white or black. Orange is no longer available. SignatureChris > > > > kawasaki Z1000. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Assuming a new one, white or black. Orange is no longer available. a.s u me. -- d. > > > > > kawasaki Z1000. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > a.s u me. And "mother of all f.ck-ups". Just mentioning the fact that white is available. It's so "you" and there could be some ex-demos out there come summer. SignatureChris > > > > > > kawasaki Z1000. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Just mentioning the fact that white is available. It's so "you" and > there could be some ex-demos out there come summer. I like the Triumph Speed Triple in white, but I really can't stand the look of the new Z1000 in any colour. The exhausts look like....f.cking stupid exhausts. -- d. > I like the Triumph Speed Triple in white, but I really can't stand the > look of the new Z1000 in any colour. The exhausts look like....f.cking > stupid exhausts. heh, IKWYM. Still, I'm sure there are better after-market ones already and that will release some more power to boot. Do you know what other "improvements" the 2007-on model has over the original one? SignatureChris > > I like the Triumph Speed Triple in white, but I really can't stand the > > look of the new Z1000 in any colour. The exhausts look like....f.cking [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Do you know what other "improvements" the 2007-on model has over the > original one? Go to the London Motorcycle Show and find out. [of Z1000] > > Do you know what other "improvements" the 2007-on model has over the > > original one? > > Go to the London Motorcycle Show and find out. CBA, and TBH, it's not that important as I'm not likely to buy one anytime soon. I was only asking out of (muted) interest. SignatureChris > > > Do you know what other "improvements" the 2007-on model has over the > > > original one? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > CBA, and TBH, it's not that important as I'm not likely to buy one > anytime soon. I was only asking out of (muted) interest. I'm only going cos me and Dad like walking round bike shows. > I'm only going cos me and Dad like walking round bike shows. I do quite like walking around bike shows, but given the fact I work 15 minutes from Lowlander, heading out to ExCel to have to head back in doesn't seem worth the hassle. -- d. > > I like the Triumph Speed Triple in white, but I really can't stand the > > look of the new Z1000 in any colour. The exhausts look like....f.cking > > stupid exhausts. > > heh, IKWYM. they're f.cking gopping. The only worse exhausts I can think of are on the latest Guzzi Griso. > Still, I'm sure there are better after-market ones already and that > will release some more power to boot. > > Do you know what other "improvements" the 2007-on model has over the > original one it has more fairing, but I don't really like the look of that either. In any case, I don't like the price - if I do buy a new bike, it'll definitely be the GSF1250SF mentioned previously in this thread. -- d. > > > > > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > kawasaki Z1000. Don't know if it's anywhere near you, but I did see this one in letchworth last week, looks like new in the metal. http://www.thebikepavilion.co.uk/traditional.html -- Speedgazebo > > > > > > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > http://www.thebikepavilion.co.uk/traditional.html looks like the sort of thing I'm after. -- d. > I've pretty much > decided on what I'm going to replace the Tiger with at the start of > the summer nice qualifier. but you didn't need it as you haven't told us the decision anyway. Signaturedog sl1000 two#5 pwcram#3 > > I've pretty much > > decided on what I'm going to replace the Tiger with at the start of > > the summer > > nice qualifier. but you didn't need it as you haven't told us the decision > anyway. see my reply to Cane. -- d. > > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > > No. It'll be crap and my shopping list is empty. Ding TOG@Toil says... > > > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > > > > No. It'll be crap and my shopping list is empty. > > Ding I thought you'd go so you could knock one out at the sight of the gorgeous S1C I saw there on the Classic Bike display near Graham's stand. Timo could go and get all germanic about the attention to detail on the XL250 Motorsport there too SignatureLozzo Bent and twisted Suzuki SV650S K5. > No. It'll be crap and my shopping list is empty. I was gonna go as I wanted a front paddock stand, but for the £18 entry fee I could buy one off ebay. -- Antony >> No. It'll be crap and my shopping list is empty. > >I was gonna go as I wanted a front paddock stand, but >for the £18 entry fee I could buy one off ebay. EIGHTEEN QUID! FFS! SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk > >> No. It'll be crap and my shopping list is empty. > > >I was gonna go as I wanted a front paddock stand, but > >for the £18 entry fee I could buy one off ebay. > > EIGHTEEN QUID! FFS! exactly. If it were under a tenner, I might go, but £18 is just simply taking the piss. -- d. darsy says... > > >> No. It'll be crap and my shopping list is empty. > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > If it were under a tenner, I might go, but £18 is just simply taking > the piss. <waves complimantary tickets> SignatureLozzo Bent and twisted Suzuki SV650S K5. > darsy says... > > If it were under a tenner, I might go, but £18 is just simply taking > > the piss. > > <waves complimantary tickets> got any spare? -- d. darsy says... > > darsy says... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > got any spare? Possibly, all depends if my friend actually bothers to come down this way. Will let yo know. SignatureLozzo Bent and twisted Suzuki SV650S K5. ><waves complimantary tickets> <waves speeling dictionary> SignaturePip: B12 Pip says... > ><waves complimantary tickets> > > <waves speeling dictionary> I have the tickets on my desk in front of me and I still speeled it wrung SignatureLozzo Bent and twisted Suzuki SV650S K5. > I was gonna go as I wanted a front paddock stand, but > for the �18 entry fee I could buy one off ebay. yeah, it's a bit much. *reconsiders* Signaturedog sl1000 two#5 pwcram#3 >> I was gonna go as I wanted a front paddock stand, but >> for the ñ8 entry fee I could buy one off ebay. > >yeah, it's a bit much. > >*reconsiders* Perhaps you could also reconsider using a character set that copes with £ signs? SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk > Perhaps you could also reconsider using a character set that copes > with � signs? i do. it also copes with greek, kanji, hiragana, and sumero-akkadian. it just copes with them differently. i'm sure i've already explained the problem before: usenet is broken by design as it assumes that everything is 7-bit ascii and doesn't specify a means of describing anything else. Signaturedog sl1000 two#5 pwcram#3 >> Perhaps you could also reconsider using a character set that copes >> with àsigns? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >design as it assumes that everything is 7-bit ascii and doesn't specify >a means of describing anything else. But what's your purpose, or perceived advantage, in using something that doesn't comply with that assumption? Signature_______ .'_/_|_\_'. Ace (b.rogers at ifrance.com) \`\ | /`/ DS#8 BOTAFOT#3 SbS#2 UKRMMA#13 DFV#8 SKA#2 IBB#10 `\\ | //' `\|/` ` > On 31 Jan 2008 10:24:14 GMT, in > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > But what's your purpose, or perceived advantage, in using something > that doesn't comply with that assumption? he's a mac-mong; there's no point having a technical discussion with him. -- d. > he's a mac-mong; there's no point having a technical discussion with > him. heh Signaturedog sl1000 two#5 pwcram#3 > >> Perhaps you could also reconsider using a character set that copes > >> with �signs? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > But what's your purpose, or perceived advantage, in using something > that doesn't comply with that assumption? eh? i'm not the one sending non-ascii posts, the non-ascii stuff was quoted from someone else. Signaturedog sl1000 two#5 pwcram#3 >> >> Perhaps you could also reconsider using a character set that copes >> >> with ?gns? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >eh? i'm not the one sending non-ascii posts, the non-ascii stuff was >quoted from someone else. But it's your setup that's failed to quote it correctly. I wondered why you'd have something that was set up in such a way that it would fail to do so. Signature_______ .'_/_|_\_'. Ace (b.rogers at ifrance.com) \`\ | /`/ DS#8 BOTAFOT#3 SbS#2 UKRMMA#13 DFV#8 SKA#2 IBB#10 `\\ | //' `\|/` ` > On 31 Jan 2008 10:47:58 GMT, in > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > But it's your setup that's failed to quote it correctly. but it's not though. From Google.groups, the first post with the dodgy character is Champ's, and if I try to reply to dog's post, it works fine. -- d. >>eh? i'm not the one sending non-ascii posts, the non-ascii stuff was >>quoted from someone else. > > But it's your setup that's failed to quote it correctly. I wondered > why you'd have something that was set up in such a way that it would > fail to do so. No, it's your setup, and Champ's setup up, that failing to read it correctly. On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:58:58 +0000 (UTC), in <Xns9A3679EBB50FDswittersnospam@85.214.90.228>, Switters <me@privacy.net> wrote: >>>eh? i'm not the one sending non-ascii posts, the non-ascii stuff was >>>quoted from someone else. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >No, it's your setup, and Champ's setup up, that failing to read it >correctly. Well please explain why it reads the first post correctly, but replaces the pound sign with the n-tilde when reading dog's post. Now it may be that your newsreader displays both correctly, but it's quite clear that dog's is changing the character coding in some way too. Signature_______ .'_/_|_\_'. Ace (b.rogers at ifrance.com) \`\ | /`/ DS#8 BOTAFOT#3 SbS#2 UKRMMA#13 DFV#8 SKA#2 IBB#10 `\\ | //' `\|/` ` > >No, it's your setup, and Champ's setup up, that failing to read it > >correctly. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > quite clear that dog's is changing the character coding in some way > too. well, i've changed my setup to completely ignore mime and not send any mime headers hopefully, so whatever i quote will just be the ascii payload of whatever anyone originally sent. that may or may not be a better experience for everyone. Signaturedog sl1000 two#5 pwcram#3 > Well please explain why it reads the first post correctly, but > replaces the pound sign with the n-tilde when reading dog's post. Ant's post used the ISO-8859-1, and QP encoding. Dog's port used UTF-8, and straight 8-bit text. Agent was happy with the former, but not the latter, and the subsequent posts from you and Champ used basic 7-bit ascii, which changed things irrevocably. >>> I was gonna go as I wanted a front paddock stand, but >>> for the ñ8 entry fee I could buy one off ebay. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Perhaps you could also reconsider using a character set that copes > with £ signs? Odd. Antonye's post contains the correct symbol. Dog's quote from antonye correctly contains the pound symbol. However, your quote of dog's quote of antonye contains the spanish 'n' with a squigly bit. So I put it to you sir: get a decent newsreader. On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:37:35 +0000 (UTC), in <Xns9A366C1F7C8C4swittersnospam@85.214.90.228>, Switters <me@privacy.net> wrote: >>>> I was gonna go as I wanted a front paddock stand, but >>>> for the ñ8 entry fee I could buy one off ebay. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Odd. Antonye's post contains the correct symbol. Dog's quote from >antonye correctly contains the pound symbol. Not from 'ere it doesn't. n-tilda is what dog's post appeared as. Signature_______ .'_/_|_\_'. Ace (b.rogers at ifrance.com) \`\ | /`/ DS#8 BOTAFOT#3 SbS#2 UKRMMA#13 DFV#8 SKA#2 IBB#10 `\\ | //' `\|/` ` >>>> I was gonna go as I wanted a front paddock stand, but >>>> for the ñ8 entry fee I could buy one off ebay. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Odd. Antonye's post contains the correct symbol. Dog's quote from >antonye correctly contains the pound symbol. As Ace (also and Agent user) - not for me. I saw a pound sign in Antonye's post, and a spanish n in dog's quote of Antonye's post. SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk dog says... > is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? I'll definitely be working there on Saturday and attending as a visitor if I'm not working there the next day as well. SignatureLozzo Bent and twisted Suzuki SV650S K5. >dog says... >> is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? > >I'll definitely be working there on Saturday and attending as a visitor >if I'm not working there the next day as well. I'm hoping to pop along on Saturday. We need lids'n'jackets, so get your sales hat on. SD says... > >dog says... > >> is anyone thinking of going to the show at excel on sunday? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I'm hoping to pop along on Saturday. We need lids'n'jackets, so get > your sales hat on. You'll be out of luck I'm afraid. Graham only has the Held gloves range on the stand this year. Better pop in and see him or me at the shop. SignatureLozzo Bent and twisted Suzuki SV650S K5. |
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