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Hog - 30 Jan 2008 14:08 GMT
One has to laugh at a company looking for an experience infrastructure PM.
Prince qualified with extensive EPOS and Cisco experience.

Central London
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£30k

Should *just* pay the Apartment rental and parking then.  Obviously one has
to be something of a philanthropist.
In Silicon yesterday they were touting the story of the IT skills shortage.
140000 Techs needed. They forgot to insert "prepared to work for f.ck all"
or "prepared to contribute own cash to employer for honour of employment"

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Dr Zoidberg - 30 Jan 2008 14:17 GMT
> One has to laugh at a company looking for an experience infrastructure PM.
> Prince qualified with extensive EPOS and Cisco experience.
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> .
> £30k

Cheeky gits.
They could have quite a wait

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dog - 30 Jan 2008 14:24 GMT
>  One has to laugh at a company looking for an experience infrastructure PM.
>  Prince qualified with extensive EPOS and Cisco experience.
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>  .
>  �30k

for 2 days a week?
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darsy - 30 Jan 2008 14:38 GMT
> >  One has to laugh at a company looking for an experience infrastructure PM.
> >  Prince qualified with extensive EPOS and Cisco experience.
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> for 2 days a week?

heh - still wouldn't even cut it.

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d.
Hog - 30 Jan 2008 14:50 GMT
>>>  One has to laugh at a company looking for an experience
>>>  infrastructure PM. Prince qualified with extensive EPOS and Cisco
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>
> heh - still wouldn't even cut it.

I wouldn't think anyone would touch it as a permie under 60k.

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darsy - 30 Jan 2008 15:00 GMT
> >>>  One has to laugh at a company looking for an experience
> >>>  infrastructure PM. Prince qualified with extensive EPOS and Cisco
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> I wouldn't think anyone would touch it as a permie under 60k.

I certainly wouldn't. But then, if I were going to do just PMing, I'd
do it contracting, not permie.

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d.
Hog - 30 Jan 2008 15:01 GMT
>>>>>  One has to laugh at a company looking for an experience
>>>>>  infrastructure PM. Prince qualified with extensive EPOS and Cisco
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> I certainly wouldn't. But then, if I were going to do just PMing, I'd
> do it contracting, not permie.

As an Isle of Man resident of course

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darsy - 30 Jan 2008 15:08 GMT
> > I certainly wouldn't. But then, if I were going to do just PMing, I'd
> > do it contracting, not permie.
>
> As an Isle of Man resident of course

we have a contractor here who "works" for a company based on the
Island, for no salary. They have a sister company who issues him
"loans" for the same amount that we pay the first company (less a
"handling charge". These "loans" are then cancelled every 3 months.

As far as I know, he pays no tax whatsoever.

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Hog - 30 Jan 2008 15:19 GMT
>>> I certainly wouldn't. But then, if I were going to do just PMing,
>>> I'd do it contracting, not permie.
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> As far as I know, he pays no tax whatsoever.

Well the IoM isn't tax free. It has a basic income tax of 10% up to £10500
and a higher rate of 18%.
There are no capital gains taxes for individuals.  The IoM does not operate
IR35, or any equivalent scheme.

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Krusty - 30 Jan 2008 16:02 GMT
> > we have a contractor here who "works" for a company based on the
> > Island, for no salary. They have a sister company who issues him
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> #10500 and a higher rate of 18%.  There are no capital gains taxes
> for individuals.

I really, really wish they'd scrap CGT here. It's far & away the most
complex part of our software, & I'm sick to death of having to spend
months re-coding it every time they change the bloody rules. I dread to
think how much it costs software houses to keep up with the latest
legislative tinkering.

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ST - 30 Jan 2008 18:25 GMT
> > > we have a contractor here who "works" for a company based on the
> > > Island, for no salary. They have a sister company who issues him
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> think how much it costs software houses to keep up with the latest
> legislative tinkering.

I have to agree with this.  I do my own lettings accounts which takes
me a fair amount of time, even though every receipt for renewals/
repairs is logged when the expenditure occurs.  I understand how the
tax works on this and is quite straightforward.  Every year I get the
accountant to calculate the Capital Gains tax I pay on sold properties
and every time he and I get wildly differing results (thankfully his
are always lower - by over 3k this year).  There is always an
allowance I did not know about or some arcane rule.

The changes due next year look interesting however once the treasury
get wind of how much will be lost to them (mostly from private
landlords) they will change their minds, probably at the very last
minute.  You only have to look at the recent fuckup of (residential)
property in pensions.  I suspect again it will be a huge waste of
money and time.
Simian - 30 Jan 2008 19:40 GMT
> I really, really wish they'd scrap CGT here. It's far & away the most
> complex part of our software, & I'm sick to death of having to spend
> months re-coding it every time they change the bloody rules. I dread
> to think how much it costs software houses to keep up with the latest
> legislative tinkering.

I feel exactly the same way about daylight saving, even though I don't
have to do that sort of thing anymore, which is nice.
ginge - 30 Jan 2008 19:44 GMT
> I really, really wish they'd scrap CGT here. It's far & away the most
> complex part of our software, & I'm sick to death of having to spend
> months re-coding it every time they change the bloody rules. I dread to
> think how much it costs software houses to keep up with the latest
> legislative tinkering.

Less than it costs the customers to buy the upgrades, IWHT.
mike. buckley - 30 Jan 2008 14:46 GMT
>One has to laugh at a company looking for an experience infrastructure PM.
>Prince qualified with extensive EPOS and Cisco experience.
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>140000 Techs needed. They forgot to insert "prepared to work for f.ck all"
>or "prepared to contribute own cash to employer for honour of employment"

Bit of a shortage of techie security staff in the UK, my old company has
tried to beef up it's team through contractors, and has had to take on
pretty much anybody that applied, some with truly awful cv's.  Most
contractors I know are now permies due to changes in IR35 which explains
a contractor skill shortage.

I've seen city jobs for CCIEs at 45k, not bad for about 6 years of
slogging through Cisco exams.

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