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Motorcycle Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / February 2008[FOAK] Laptop in France and dialup internet.
</unlurk> My Google powers are weak so I'm seeking FOAK assistance. I'm taking a laptop to France in the very near future. I need the laptop to connect to dial-up internet whilst I'm there. I'm sorted on a one-shot dial-up account but what kind of accessories or hardware will I need that's France specific. I know that I'm going to need a RJ11 -> France adapter - I'll be buying one on arrival. Will I need anything else - modems and the like are standard? TIA, Regards, Martin. <lurk> > </unlurk> > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > <lurk> Dial-up? Modem? What are these strange things you are mentioning? <googles> ah, dark-age technology. Are you sure there won't be wireless broadband where you are going, it's pretty common? Failing that don't forget a) power adapter too, b) screwdriver to unscrew plates etc, when you find that the hotel in which you are staying has hard-wired telephones. Some hotels have the US style telephone sockets too. Yes, modems are/were standard. HTH  Signature/Simon > Failing that don't forget a) power adapter too, b) screwdriver to > unscrew plates etc, when you find that the hotel in which you are > staying has hard-wired telephones. A screwdriver *AND* this webpage: http://goctruc.free.fr/Telephonie/PriseT.html SignatureBd. o.f.n.u.t.s@la.poste.net (drop dots except last) TDM850/UKRMMA#2 > > Failing that don't forget a) power adapter too, b) screwdriver to > > unscrew plates etc, when you find that the hotel in which you are > > staying has hard-wired telephones. > > A screwdriver *AND* this webpage: > http://goctruc.free.fr/Telephonie/PriseT.html ...which you can download after plugging your modem in. :-) > In article <47c49f2c$0$24964$426a3...@news.free.fr>, > o.f.n.u....@la.poste.net says... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > ...which you can download after plugging your modem in. Page babelfished and saved to the laptop. On a whim I went, against my better judgement, to the local Currys Digital - where I found an European modem adapter on the shelf for 97p - at the till they charged me 7p. It seems to have more spikes and studs than an overpierced youth who looks like they went face first into a fishing tackle box but certainly includes a French adapter. Regards, Martin. In communiqué <af135737-9781-4c6d-945e-33dc7dd9808e@p43g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Martin_Stevens@yahoo.com cast forth these pearls of wisdom ></unlurk> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >to need a RJ11 -> France adapter - I'll be buying one on arrival. Will >I need anything else - modems and the like are standard? Dunno. <pats GPRS mobile and Onspeed enabled laptop> Signature+----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: Peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk | | Voxan Roadster Gilera Nordwest * 2 Yamaha WR250Z | | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ > </unlurk> > > My Google powers are weak so I'm seeking FOAK assistance. > > I'm taking a laptop to France in the very near future. I need the > laptop to connect to dial-up internet whilst I'm there. You're forgetting that France has one of the highest ratio of ADSL connections in Europe. But yes, sometimes modem is the only way (that's what I'm doing now, my ADSL is down). > I'm sorted on a one-shot dial-up account but what kind of accessories > or hardware will I need that's France specific. I know that I'm going > to need a RJ11 -> France adapter - I'll be buying one on arrival. You may also need an adapter (or a local cable) for your power supply. > Will > I need anything else - modems and the like are standard? I use the integrated modem of my laptop, so I guess they are pretty much standard. SignatureBd. o.f.n.u.t.s@la.poste.net (drop dots except last) TDM850/UKRMMA#2 On Feb 26, 10:31 pm, Martin_Stev...@yahoo.com wrote: > </unlurk> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to need a RJ11 -> France adapter - I'll be buying one on arrival. Will > I need anything else - modems and the like are standard? FFS, by a wifi card or dongle. It'll be much easier, cheaper, less hassle and faster > On Feb 26, 10:31 pm, Martin_Stev...@yahoo.com wrote: >> </unlurk> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > FFS, by a wifi card or dongle. It'll be much easier, cheaper, less > hassle and faster Is the right answer. It's not /that/ backwards in France, surely :-) Signaturep BotM#1 LotR#9 > > On Feb 26, 10:31 pm, Martin_Stev...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> </unlurk> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Is the right answer. It's not /that/ backwards in France, surely :-) :-) France has come on in leaps and bounds with regards to the 'net connection over the last few years. I've got a 28Mb line at home that gives me phone, 'net and TV, with a fixed IP addy and no caps for the princely sum of £20 pm. I've seen offers recently for 100Mb lines for around the same price, FFS. What's the best you can come up with in the UK? > France has come on in leaps and bounds with regards to the 'net > connection over the last few years. I've got a 28Mb line at home that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What's the best you can come up with in the UK? You. Don't. Want. To. Know. And I'm not *that* far out in the sticks either. SignatureMorini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport | 900SSD | R1150RT Laverda SF2 | Harley FXD BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar >France has come on in leaps and bounds with regards to the 'net >connection over the last few years. I've got a 28Mb line at home that >gives me phone, 'net and TV, with a fixed IP addy and no caps for the >princely sum of £20 pm. f.ck. That's a fair bit better than any offering in the UK. SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk > >France has come on in leaps and bounds with regards to the 'net > >connection over the last few years. I've got a 28Mb line at home that > >gives me phone, 'net and TV, with a fixed IP addy and no caps for the > >princely sum of £20 pm. > > f.ck. That's a fair bit better than any offering in the UK. it won't last, though - cheap unmetered high speed broadband's going to tank sooner rather than later. It's already about to in the UK (for UK values of "cheap", of course"). Blame iPlayer. -- d. >> >France has come on in leaps and bounds with regards to the 'net >> >connection over the last few years. I've got a 28Mb line at home that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >to tank sooner rather than later. It's already about to in the UK (for >UK values of "cheap", of course"). Yeah? Surely 20 million house holds paying 20 quid a month supports a fair bit of infrastructure? >Blame iPlayer. <looks guilty. SignatureChamp I don't know, but I been told, you never slow down, you never get old ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 (race) neal at champ dot org dot uk > >> >France has come on in leaps and bounds with regards to the 'net > >> >connection over the last few years. I've got a 28Mb line at home that [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Yeah? Surely 20 million house holds paying 20 quid a month supports a > fair bit of infrastructure? yes it does. It doesn't necessarily pay for a massive upgrade to that infrastructure of the demand for bandwidth goes through the roof. The UK broadband ISPs have positioned themselves largely on price (rather than quality or SLAs or whatever), and if their costs rise (they have to pay someone for /their/ bandwidth) then they either need to pass on these costs, change their model (i.e. capping) or go bust. > >Blame iPlayer. > > <looks guilty. it's not the only culprit, but it's the one that the industry is citing. -- d. >> >France has come on in leaps and bounds with regards to the 'net >> >connection over the last few years. I've got a 28Mb line at home that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to tank sooner rather than later. It's already about to in the UK (for > UK values of "cheap", of course"). Unless of course the ISPs are allowed to properly analyse the customers data stream and insert lots of ads that'll somehow magically pay for all of this. > Blame iPlayer. Na, that's just the excuse du jour. SignatureMorini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport | 900SSD | R1150RT Laverda SF2 | Harley FXD BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar On Feb 27, 1:42 pm, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote: > > it won't last, though - cheap unmetered high speed broadband's going > > to tank sooner rather than later. It's already about to in the UK (for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > data stream and insert lots of ads that'll somehow magically pay for all > of this. haha - I was involved in a start-up ISP trying to fund bandwidth charges through targeted advertising back in 2000. It didn't work then, and I can't see it working now. > > Blame iPlayer. > > Na, that's just the excuse du jour. oh, I know. -- d. > On Feb 27, 1:42 pm, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME...@unixconsult.co.uk> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > charges through targeted advertising back in 2000. It didn't work > then, and I can't see it working now. Neither can I, but that won't stop them from trying. It'll just separate Internet users even more by splitting them into those who are willing to pay for a decent ad-free service and the flooded-with-ads pikeys who don't know any better. >> > Blame iPlayer. >> >> Na, that's just the excuse du jour. > > oh, I know. I didn't doubt that... SignatureMorini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport | 900SSD | R1150RT Laverda SF2 | Harley FXD BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar It lives, Egor, it lives! Whilst the craptop is working fine here in France life isn't good - I'd forgotten how rubbish dialup is. Absolutely no whiff of anything approaching a wifi signal to use either. Still, online is online (slowly). Regards, Martin. > Unless of course the ISPs are allowed to properly analyse the customers > data stream and insert lots of ads that'll somehow magically pay for all > of this. Looks like BT are actually trying this. See down there somewhere. Not exactly a popular move. Signature/Simon >> Unless of course the ISPs are allowed to properly analyse the customers >> data stream and insert lots of ads that'll somehow magically pay for all >> of this. > > Looks like BT are actually trying this. See down there somewhere. Not > exactly a popular move. Several ISPs both here and in the US are looking at this, if what I read on t'Internet is to be believed. SignatureMorini Corsaro 125 | CB450K4 | XL250 Motosport | 900SSD | R1150RT Laverda SF2 | Harley FXD BOTAFOF #33 TWA#10 The UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/index.html "Je profite du paysage" - Joe Bar >>> France has come on in leaps and bounds with regards to the 'net >>> connection over the last few years. I've got a 28Mb line at home that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to tank sooner rather than later. It's already about to in the UK (for > UK values of "cheap", of course"). My ISP (same as Cab's) is starting to offer fiber, uncapped, too. SignatureBd. o.f.n.u.t.s@la.poste.net (drop dots except last) TDM850/UKRMMA#2 > France has come on in leaps and bounds with regards to the 'net > connection over the last few years. I've got a 28Mb line at home that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What's the best you can come up with in the UK? <sobs uncontrollably> 17 quid pm for 16Kbps, apparently. I hate you. SignatureKrusty www.MuddyStuff.co.uk Off-Road Classifieds '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250 > <sobs uncontrollably> > > 17 quid pm for 16Kbps, apparently. > > I hate you. Eh? I thought Sky was a maximum of £10/month. SignatureChris > > <sobs uncontrollably> > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Eh? I thought Sky was a maximum of £10/month. It's 17 if you're not in a 'Sky enabled' area. Otherwise it's something like a fiver if you've got the TV & phone package too. SignatureKrusty www.MuddyStuff.co.uk Off-Road Classifieds '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250 > > Eh? I thought Sky was a maximum of £10/month. > > It's 17 if you're not in a 'Sky enabled' area. Ah, right. > Otherwise it's something like a fiver if you've got > the TV & phone package too. The minimum (2Mb) is free and you don't need to have their phone package. I just have Sky TV and pay a fiver for the 8Mb upgrade. SignatureChris > France has come on in leaps and bounds with regards to the 'net > connection over the last few years. I've got a 28Mb line at home that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I've seen offers recently for 100Mb lines for around the same price, > FFS. Blimey. L'internet a grande vitesse! Signaturep BotM#1 LotR#9 >> I've seen offers recently for 100Mb lines for around the same price, >> FFS. > > Blimey. L'internet a grande vitesse! One of our sales bods is resident in Japan and he gets 100mb internet (over fibre) for a good bit less than I pay for 8mb.. And their ISPs actively discourage people from taking DSL lines rather than fibre. Phil. SignaturePhil Launchbury, IT PHB 'I'm training the bats that live in my cube to juggle mushrooms' Thanks for that, all good stuff on the whole. Sadly there's absolutely no chance of wi-fi or broadband - the place I'm going is incredibly rural and there's no other houses within a couple of miles and certainly no web connection in the house although there is a landline - hence the need for dialup. Regards, Martin. > Thanks for that, all good stuff on the whole. > Sadly there's absolutely no chance of wi-fi or broadband - the place [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Regards, > Martin. Jebus, we have wireless broadband and Sky Digital TV in the villa outside Bargemon. That's pretty remote as remote goes. SignatureCheerz - Brownz '89 K100RS '53 JCW MCS (Cage) http://www.brownz.org/ In communiqué <11db0c44-ef00-4bb7-919a-14eb7aa07456@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Martin_Stevens@yahoo.com cast forth these pearls of wisdom >Thanks for that, all good stuff on the whole. >Sadly there's absolutely no chance of wi-fi or broadband - the place >I'm going is incredibly rural and there's no other houses within a >couple of miles and certainly no web connection in the house although >there is a landline - hence the need for dialup. Ah, so perhaps no mobile coverage either. There are areas without a decent signal where we are. Signature+----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: Peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk | | Voxan Roadster Gilera Nordwest * 2 Yamaha WR250Z | | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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