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The Older Gentleman - 27 Mar 2008 20:10 GMT On the Thursday night, if anyone wants a bolthole.
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Nige - 27 Mar 2008 20:56 GMT > On the Thursday night, if anyone wants a bolthole. That reminds me Cane, am I still OK to stop at yours?
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Paul Corfield - 27 Mar 2008 21:18 GMT >> On the Thursday night, if anyone wants a bolthole. > >That reminds me Cane, am I still OK to stop at yours? If you're providing Cane with a bolthole then I'm sure you'll be more than welcome.
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Cane - 28 Mar 2008 09:25 GMT > > On the Thursday night, if anyone wants a bolthole. > > That reminds me Cane, am I still OK to stop at yours? Of course, I'll take you for a pint and a fight too.
antonye - 28 Mar 2008 11:45 GMT > > > On the Thursday night, if anyone wants a bolthole. > > > That reminds me Cane, am I still OK to stop at yours? > > Of course, I'll take you for a pint and a fight too. Are you coming to mine first on the friday morning, or shall I meet you en route? I reckon M11 > M25 will be boring as hell, so heading over my way first might see if your luggage strapping ability has improved.
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Cane - 28 Mar 2008 12:21 GMT > > > > On the Thursday night, if anyone wants a bolthole. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > hell, so heading over my way first might see if your luggage > strapping ability has improved. heh, the Blackbird has hard luggage.
We can meet at yours or en route, depends which route we're going to be chasing you down.
antonye - 28 Mar 2008 13:19 GMT > heh, the Blackbird has hard luggage. If it opens, things can still fall out. Never underestimate the power of the incompetent.
> We can meet at yours or en route, depends which route we're going to > be chasing you down. There is only one way and that's M25 then M20 to Dover. We are going from Dover, right?
At least it's less than 10 miles of A12 to the M25 from mine and you'll miss quite a bit of M11 and M25, but the choice is yours.
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Nige - 28 Mar 2008 18:28 GMT >>> On the Thursday night, if anyone wants a bolthole. >> >> That reminds me Cane, am I still OK to stop at yours? > > Of course, I'll take you for a pint and a fight too. Oh great, can't wait!
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Rope - 27 Mar 2008 21:29 GMT The Older Gentleman spoke:
> On the Thursday night, if anyone wants a bolthole. <thread hijack>
When you bought the SOPed as a family shopping trolley, what was the score on insewerance? - did you add you, SO and sprogs? if so, how much was it?
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The Older Gentleman - 27 Mar 2008 23:13 GMT > The Older Gentleman spoke: > > On the Thursday night, if anyone wants a bolthole. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > what was the score on insewerance? - did you add you, SO > and sprogs? if so, how much was it? All of us, about £100, TPO.
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Scraggy - 27 Mar 2008 21:54 GMT > On the Thursday night, if anyone wants a bolthole. *Waves*
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The Older Gentleman - 27 Mar 2008 23:13 GMT > > On the Thursday night, if anyone wants a bolthole. > > *Waves* Sorted and noted!
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Hog - 28 Mar 2008 12:24 GMT >>> On the Thursday night, if anyone wants a bolthole. >> >> *Waves* > > Sorted and noted! <cough> Please, though you put me on the later ferry.
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TOG@Toil - 28 Mar 2008 14:09 GMT > >>> On the Thursday night, if anyone wants a bolthole. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > <cough> > Please, though you put me on the later ferry. Sure, but as someone else has said, chances are you can wangle an earlier boat.
Oh, I've just been finalising/paying for the ferries. POSL says there are road works as you come into Dover which have been a PITA. "But they won't bother you if you're on bikes, will they?"
I just hope the bloody weather improves by then. I'd like to take the Ducati, but if it's raining the K is the sane choice.
Just had the leccy windscreen fixed by Brian Giles - an operating arm snapped (they're oddly cheap castings and apparently this can happen). Only £50 including the parts so no biggie. He lent me an R1150RS just to get from his gaff to work and back again.
Bloody nasty thing. Rough as a badger's arse, odd riding position, not enough weather protection, and the handling felt insecure. I got back and said, cautiously: "Odd bike, that...."
"Horrible!" was what he said. Dunno if they're all like that. I've only ridden two new-style boxers that I liked: an 1150GS (inevitably) and an R850R (another Brian loaner) which was *really* nice. So much sweeter than the bigger bikes and didn't feel much slower.
Oh, and if Timo's reading this: I stuck the fuel gauge in, the one I bought off Ebay, and it works a treat. That was a piece of luck: I've bid on several, and always been outbid at something like £35-40. But I won this one for £10.95. Go figure.....
platypus - 28 Mar 2008 14:56 GMT > Just had the leccy windscreen fixed by Brian Giles - an operating arm > snapped (they're oddly cheap castings and apparently this can happen). [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > enough weather protection, and the handling felt insecure. I got back > and said, cautiously: "Odd bike, that...." How did you get on with the Evo brakes?
> "Horrible!" was what he said. Dunno if they're all like that. I've > only ridden two new-style boxers that I liked: an 1150GS (inevitably) > and an R850R (another Brian loaner) which was *really* nice. So much > sweeter than the bigger bikes and didn't feel much slower. <nods> I like the older 850s.
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TOG@Toil - 28 Mar 2008 15:02 GMT > > Just had the leccy windscreen fixed by Brian Giles - an operating arm > > snapped (they're oddly cheap castings and apparently this can happen). [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > How did you get on with the Evo brakes? Does the 1150 have 'em? This was a well-worn example.
Um, I mentioned the brakes to him as they seemed to have a load too much lever travel. If you pumped them, the travel lessened dramatically, suggesting there was air in the system. he said someone else had complained, tried the lever, and said: "That's not right" but whether it was just air, or Evo brakes, or Evo brakes + air, I dunno.
> > "Horrible!" was what he said. Dunno if they're all like that. I've > > only ridden two new-style boxers that I liked: an 1150GS (inevitably) > > and an R850R (another Brian loaner) which was *really* nice. So much > > sweeter than the bigger bikes and didn't feel much slower. > > <nods> I like the older 850s. Timo said they made an 850GS, but hardly any were sold here. I'd like to try one now.
platypus - 28 Mar 2008 15:26 GMT >>> Just had the leccy windscreen fixed by Brian Giles - an operating >>> arm snapped (they're oddly cheap castings and apparently this can [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > else had complained, tried the lever, and said: "That's not right" but > whether it was just air, or Evo brakes, or Evo brakes + air, I dunno. What the Evo system does is apply servo assistance to the brakes. If the servo assistance is absent, there's still some braking, but it's pretty soggy. Did you hear any servo whine? Also, I suspect that the servo assistance could mask degraded brake performance through air, spongy hoses, elderly brake fluid or whatever.
>>> "Horrible!" was what he said. Dunno if they're all like that. I've >>> only ridden two new-style boxers that I liked: an 1150GS [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Timo said they made an 850GS, but hardly any were sold here. I'd like > to try one now. http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/specpages/R850GS.htm
I ought to try one of the early R850R models sometime.
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TOG@Toil - 28 Mar 2008 17:20 GMT > >>> Just had the leccy windscreen fixed by Brian Giles - an operating > >>> arm snapped (they're oddly cheap castings and apparently this can [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > assistance could mask degraded brake performance through air, spongy hoses, > elderly brake fluid or whatever. I know what it does - I just don't know if all the 1150s had them.
> http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/specpages/R850GS.htm Hm. Top speed 117mph. IIRC, the 1150 manages about 125-130, doesn't it?
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Coo, they didn't make very many of them, did they?
Timo Geusch - 28 Mar 2008 21:15 GMT >> > Just had the leccy windscreen fixed by Brian Giles - an operating arm >> > snapped (they're oddly cheap castings and apparently this can happen). [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Does the 1150 have 'em? This was a well-worn example. That one doesn't have Evo brakes - it's a bog standard, non-ABS bike.
> Um, I mentioned the brakes to him as they seemed to have a load too > much lever travel. If you pumped them, the travel lessened > dramatically, suggesting there was air in the system. he said someone > else had complained, tried the lever, and said: "That's not right" but > whether it was just air, or Evo brakes, or Evo brakes + air, I dunno. It's just air, and I think I've had that problem as well.
> Timo said they made an 850GS, but hardly any were sold here. I'd like > to try one now. I've only ever seen two for sale in the UK, so you may be a while. The other issue with them is that they are 1100GSs with a smaller engine, despite them being built parallel to the 1150 as well. So no six-speed gearbox etc.
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wessie - 31 Mar 2008 13:14 GMT >> Timo said they made an 850GS, but hardly any were sold here. I'd like >> to try one now. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > despite them being built parallel to the 1150 as well. So no six-speed > gearbox etc. My boss at Xerox bought one at the same time as I bought the 1150. He didn't like it when I kept parking my "new shape" W reg bike next to his "old shape" X reg 850. He was a notorious cheapskate: his previous bikes were an MZ, a Suzuki GS850 and a GPZ1100.
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Hog - 28 Mar 2008 17:32 GMT > Just had the leccy windscreen fixed by Brian Giles - an operating arm > snapped (they're oddly cheap castings and apparently this can happen). [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > and an R850R (another Brian loaner) which was *really* nice. So much > sweeter than the bigger bikes and didn't feel much slower. I've ridden the 1100S and RS. Both have horrible rough engines. Nasty vibes. Fairings that don't work and footpegs so high a Gixxer Thou was more comfortable.
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Monz - 29 Mar 2008 02:09 GMT > I've ridden the 1100S and RS. Both have horrible rough engines. Nasty > vibes. Fairings that don't work and footpegs so high a Gixxer Thou > was more comfortable. Will you stop having pops at gixxers ffs :-)
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Hog - 29 Mar 2008 12:39 GMT >> I've ridden the 1100S and RS. Both have horrible rough engines. Nasty >> vibes. Fairings that don't work and footpegs so high a Gixxer Thou >> was more comfortable. > > Will you stop having pops at gixxers ffs :-) I wasn't
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Timo Geusch - 28 Mar 2008 21:12 GMT > Just had the leccy windscreen fixed by Brian Giles - an operating arm > snapped (they're oddly cheap castings and apparently this can happen). [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > "Horrible!" was what he said. Dunno if they're all like that. The riding position is a bit odd on the RS - the last time I had this particular one, I did fiddle with the seat height but it didn't help much either. It's too much like you're supposed to have your knees up by your ears.
And yes, the weather protection is a tad shite and I've pretty much had exactly the same issues with it as you describe.
Which reminds me, I need to give him a bell to ensure I don't get stuck with that bike on Tuesday.
> I've > only ridden two new-style boxers that I liked: an 1150GS (inevitably) > and an R850R (another Brian loaner) which was *really* nice. So much > sweeter than the bigger bikes and didn't feel much slower. Actually the R1150R loaner he has/used to have is quite nice, too. In fact, it's mostly this RS that's a tad 'orrible.
> Oh, and if Timo's reading this: I stuck the fuel gauge in, the one I > bought off Ebay, and it works a treat. That was a piece of luck: I've > bid on several, and always been outbid at something like £35-40. But I > won this one for £10.95. Go figure..... Not bad. Proof that you can get lucky occasionally on ebay.
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