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Radbert Grimmig - 28 Apr 2008 18:46 GMT What do you call it if the engine starts surging or bucking when you ride along at a constant, lowish engine speed? Like the four valve flat twin beemers used to do for a few years? Is that surging?
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wessie - 28 Apr 2008 18:47 GMT Radbert Grimmig <grimmig@cityweb.de> wrote in news:48160d7e$0$6516$9b4e6d93 @newsspool4.arcor-online.net:
> What do you call it if the engine starts surging or bucking when you > ride along at a constant, lowish engine speed? Like the four valve > flat twin beemers used to do for a few years? Is that surging? Yes. Mine still does it, if the throttle bodies go out of balance
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Radbert Grimmig - 29 Apr 2008 10:05 GMT Thanks everybody, but there is more. I always wanted to know these, so while we're at it:
- Lastwechselreaktionen. This is what annoys you about the drive train/final drive of some bikes when opening or closing the throttle. Jerking, felt chain slack, but some people also used this for the "lift" effect of crude shaft drives like oldish two-valve beemers had up to around '86. I've always translated it to "load change reactions" but hated it.
- "Drehfreude". Is there a noun to go with "free revving"?
- Can you say "undulating turns" when in fact you mean the bumpy road surface?
- Oh yeah, derogatory terms for nationalities. We call the Americans "Amis", which I always felt "Yanks" wasn't doing justice too. Too Civil War, too North centered, not enough redneck bashing. Also, for a nickname, the German expression is almost tender. We even have sugar coated pastry called "Amerikaner". We like 'em here. Well, basically. Well, almost.
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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 29 Apr 2008 10:42 GMT Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Radbert Grimmig <grimmig@cityweb.de> typed
>Thanks everybody, but there is more. >I always wanted to know these, so while we're at it: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >up to around '86. I've always translated it to "load change reactions" >but hated it. Driveline backlash, I guess.
>- "Drehfreude". Is there a noun to go with "free revving"? Free revving. :^)
>- Can you say "undulating turns" when in fact you mean the bumpy road >surface? Sounds... odd to me. Can't think of a better term at the moment.
>- Oh yeah, derogatory terms for nationalities. We call the Americans >"Amis", which I always felt "Yanks" wasn't doing justice too. Too >Civil War, too North centered, not enough redneck bashing. Also, for a >nickname, the German expression is almost tender. We even have sugar >coated pastry called "Amerikaner". We like 'em here. Well, basically. >Well, almost. Yanks is good. We use "Septics" around here, but I don't think that would be generally understood (comes from the rhyme with "septic tank"). You'll have to accept that as just the opinion of an Inselaffe, of course...
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Adrian - 29 Apr 2008 10:47 GMT Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
>>- Can you say "undulating turns" when in fact you mean the bumpy road >>surface?
> Sounds... odd to me. Can't think of a better term at the moment. "The usual potholed mess"...?
"Undulating" implies good, interesting, not-lincolnshire-flat - a road that rises and falls as it winds. I don't think that's what's being meant...
Pip - 29 Apr 2008 11:13 GMT >Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> gurgled happily, >sounding much like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >"The usual potholed mess"...? "Washboard surface" - "lunar landscape"
>"Undulating" implies good, interesting, not-lincolnshire-flat - a road >that rises and falls as it winds. I don't think that's what's being >meant... You're spot on there.
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Grimly Curmudgeon - 29 Apr 2008 14:02 GMT We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> saying something like:
>>>- Can you say "undulating turns" when in fact you mean the bumpy road >>>surface? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >that rises and falls as it winds. I don't think that's what's being >meant... "Shite Irish Road" is usually descriptive enough.
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Adrian - 29 Apr 2008 14:10 GMT Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE@REMOVEgmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
>>>>- Can you say "undulating turns" when in fact you mean the bumpy road >>>>surface?
>>> Sounds... odd to me. Can't think of a better term at the moment.
>>"The usual potholed mess"...? >> >>"Undulating" implies good, interesting, not-lincolnshire-flat - a road >>that rises and falls as it winds. I don't think that's what's being >>meant...
> "Shite Irish Road" is usually descriptive enough. <looks around, panicked> f.ck, when did the Irish conquer Hertfordshire?
Wicked Uncle Nigel - 29 Apr 2008 14:27 GMT Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> typed
>Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE@REMOVEgmail.com> gurgled happily, >sounding much like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > ><looks around, panicked> f.ck, when did the Irish conquer Hertfordshire? They didn't.
They just built the roads.
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Adrian - 29 Apr 2008 14:40 GMT Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
>>>>"The usual potholed mess"...? >>>> >>>>"Undulating" implies good, interesting, not-lincolnshire-flat - a road >>>>that rises and falls as it winds. I don't think that's what's being >>>>meant...
>>> "Shite Irish Road" is usually descriptive enough.
>><looks around, panicked> f.ck, when did the Irish conquer Hertfordshire?
> They didn't. > > They just built the roads. With whatever was left over after all the "Tarmac yer droive, sorr" jobs?
zymurgy@technologist.com - 29 Apr 2008 22:40 GMT On Apr 29, 2:02 pm, Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REM...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the > drugs began to take hold. I remember Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > "Shite Irish Road" is usually descriptive enough. Shite Irish gravelly D roads ?
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Pip - 29 Apr 2008 11:16 GMT >Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Radbert Grimmig ><grimmig@cityweb.de> typed [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Driveline backlash, I guess. Spot on.
>>- "Drehfreude". Is there a noun to go with "free revving"? > >Free revving. :^) "Spins the rev counter needle round like a spider on acid"
>>- Can you say "undulating turns" when in fact you mean the bumpy road >>surface? > >Sounds... odd to me. Can't think of a better term at the moment. Rippled, or where the tarmac has been pushed into linear bumps by heavy traffic, "bermed".
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zymurgy@technologist.com - 29 Apr 2008 11:59 GMT > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:42:00 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > "Spins the rev counter needle round like a spider on acid" "WFO"
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Radbert Grimmig - 29 Apr 2008 12:02 GMT Pip schrieb:
>Rippled, Oh you're all so gorgeous... And another thing:
What is a "biker" to you?
Because over here, we usually take it not to mean "garden variety motorcyclist" but either the Hells Angels, potbellied, Harley toting variety OR the dentists, lawyers and architects who try to harness that image for themselves.
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Beav - 30 Apr 2008 22:13 GMT > Pip schrieb: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > variety OR the dentists, lawyers and architects who try to harness > that image for themselves. And hairdressers. Never forget the hairdressers.
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zymurgy@technologist.com - 29 Apr 2008 11:58 GMT On Apr 29, 10:42 am, Wicked Uncle Nigel <w...@wicked-uncle- nigel.me.uk> wrote:
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Radbert Grimmig > <grim...@cityweb.de> typed [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Sounds... odd to me. Can't think of a better term at the moment. Sweeping bends
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Radbert Grimmig - 29 Apr 2008 12:49 GMT zymurgy@technologist.com schrieb:
>> >- Can you say "undulating turns" when in fact you mean the bumpy road >> >surface? >> >> Sounds... odd to me. Can't think of a better term at the moment. > >Sweeping bends WHAT?
I always took that to mean rather longish, roomy (what's the opposite of tight again) turns?
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zymurgy@technologist.com - 29 Apr 2008 13:34 GMT > zymu...@technologist.com schrieb: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I always took that to mean rather longish, roomy (what's the opposite > of tight again) turns? Yep, you're correct. The term undulating infers gradual or non scary inclines and declines (descents), so I applied the same to the bend description.
English really isn't that exact sometimes. Other European languages are more unambiguous.
(c/f German and Italian)
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Colin Irvine - 29 Apr 2008 11:44 GMT >- Can you say "undulating turns" when in fact you mean the bumpy road >surface? You can say "turns on an undulating road surface", although if the pitch of the bumps is small it would become "corrugated".
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zymurgy@technologist.com - 29 Apr 2008 14:01 GMT On Apr 29, 11:44 am, Colin Irvine <Colin.Irv...@seebottomof.home.page> wrote:
> >- Can you say "undulating turns" when in fact you mean the bumpy road > >surface? > > You can say "turns on an undulating road surface", Switchbacks ?
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Wicked Uncle Nigel - 28 Apr 2008 18:59 GMT Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Radbert Grimmig <grimmig@cityweb.de> typed
>What do you call it if the engine starts surging or bucking when you >ride along at a constant, lowish engine speed? Like the four valve >flat twin beemers used to do for a few years? Is that surging? Hunting.
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MikeH - 28 Apr 2008 20:59 GMT > Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Radbert Grimmig > <grimmig@cityweb.de> typed [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hunting. Adjust the left hound lead until it stops.
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Champ - 28 Apr 2008 21:30 GMT >> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Radbert Grimmig >> <grimmig@cityweb.de> typed [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Adjust the left hound lead until it stops. Where have you been?
I've missed your appalling puns.
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MikeH - 29 Apr 2008 07:35 GMT >>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Radbert Grimmig >>> <grimmig@cityweb.de> typed [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I've missed your appalling puns. I'm working solid at the moment so I only get time to lurk a bit and when I get home family stuff calls more than UKRM.
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Nige - 28 Apr 2008 19:01 GMT > What do you call it if the engine starts surging or bucking when you > ride along at a constant, lowish engine speed? Like the four valve > flat twin beemers used to do for a few years? Is that surging? > > regards > Radbert Jerking like Mohammed Ali making a cup of tea?
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Beav - 28 Apr 2008 19:57 GMT > What do you call it if the engine starts surging or bucking when you > ride along at a constant, lowish engine speed? Like the four valve > flat twin beemers used to do for a few years? Is that surging? Hunting.
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Timo Geusch - 28 Apr 2008 20:12 GMT > What do you call it if the engine starts surging or bucking when you > ride along at a constant, lowish engine speed? Like the four valve > flat twin beemers used to do for a few years? Is that surging? Yes. And they still do it, to a greater or lesser extent.
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